Valar Guild

October 4, 2020 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by
Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular smiley]

Attending (and spoke): (8)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon-V, Eonwe, Fangorn/Treebeard (Before-meeting), Ioreth (After-meeting), Irmo, Pallando-Valar, Varda (presiding)

Before-meeting
    The noon "ride" in Lord of the Rings Online for the anniversary has some chat here as well as in-game.
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    The Valar Guild's 23rd Anniversary is today. : )
Web:
    Anniversary page updated.
    Games Site updated.
    Tolkien Site updated: new art, stories, poetry.
Gaming:
    General reports: Eve Online (Membership), World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Diablo 4, Hearthstone, Lord of the Rings Online, Starcraft 2
Tolkien:
    Topic: from Irmo-(Valar): By what quality did the ships of Lindon have the ability to reach Valinor in the 3rd area? Special ships (ala Aqualondë) or special shipwrights (aka Cirdan)? Or both? And how many passengers have they taken back during the years? (Gandalf/Glorfindel/the other wizards/any else?). And why could Legolas make one?
After-meeting:
    Chat
    Tolkien quotes adding to the topic above.
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
   
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Before-meeting

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Meant to post this here: Results from the GSMU are now up on the Games Site. Feel free to review and correct.
[9:05 AM]
Also, Happy Anniversary :}

Treebeard10/04/2020
Hello.  I finally got through my morning routine enough to log in.  How are things?

Varda10/04/2020
Huzzah!
[10:23 AM]
Happy Anniversary, Fangorn. : )
[10:24 AM]
Happy Anniversary everyone!
[10:24 AM]
Irmo started a chat thread for the anniversary on the Forum. Thanks!

Varda10/04/2020
We are going to start the fireworks ride in Landroval in about ten minutes. Bree is the first area.
[10:47 AM]
We're gathering fireworks and going to Bree right now.

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Happy anniversary all

Varda10/04/2020
On the way to Rivendell now

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
gettging to sw first then i ll be on the way

Varda10/04/2020
Irmo and Miriel are playing music in front of the Last Homely House
[12:01 PM]
Firework rides are done, but the music is great.
[12:02 PM]
Canon in D, Miriel and Irmo together

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
cant connect ...

Varda10/04/2020
Now they're playing Caribbean Blue
[12:04 PM]
We have kites out too.
[12:06 PM]
dancing : )
[12:08 PM]
next up: Moonlight Sonata
[12:09 PM]
With Arien just arriving, 6 on
[12:11 PM]
and she's with us
[12:14 PM]
We have one huge bee, 2 types of dragon kites, 2 types of eagle kites. : )
[12:16 PM]
Now playing: Book of Days
[12:20 PM]
Rolling Stones - Paint it Black

Treebeard10/04/2020
Mahariel and Irmohir gave a concert after the Valar Guild 23rd Anniversary Bash and Parade through LOTRO Sunday 10/4/2020.  Yay us!

Irmo10/04/2020
Fun times

Varda10/04/2020
If we have new people, we can run again about 7 P.M. in LotRO. Otherwise, we might just game if we get together.

Irmo10/04/2020
My work schedule starts at 8 tomorrow morning, so I will have to go sleep at max half an hour after meetings starts

Varda10/04/2020
Ok. If there's anything you'd like to bring up for the meeting even if you're not there, let me know.

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
all right the bugs are down ~

Varda10/04/2020
That's what Raids are for? : )

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
uhu mostly Bugs of some shape with some humans inbetween bossshapewise
[3:36 PM]
The last guy is fun sort of, Buru, Cala will know her or him, because you have to beat the eggs to ten percent , Boss focusses on one and then you got to kite him to this egg . for then his armor is weakest , but then you got to be careful with which speed  that happens neither too slow or too fast is really any good

Varda10/04/2020
Jusssst right.

Irmo10/04/2020
rrrrrrright

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
oki screenies sent Varda

Varda10/04/2020
Thank you!
[3:57 PM]
I don't think our screenies are going to be up by meeting time. Sorry.

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
its all rlightA:)
[3:58 PM]
take your time

Varda10/04/2020
Maybe work on them during the meeting. Er what did you say? : )

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
hehe

Irmo10/04/2020
take.your.time. ..

Varda10/04/2020
hah
[3:58 PM]
Hey, Valar of Time, over here!

Irmo10/04/2020
well, since its yours, take it

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Heya all.

Irmo10/04/2020
Salutations Eonwë

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Varda10/04/2020
Aiya!
[4:04 PM]
@Bounder It's the 23rd Anniversary meeting! Drop in and say hi!

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Aiya and happy anniversary

Varda10/04/2020
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:05 PM]

Membership:
[4:05 PM]
Happy 23rd Anniversary to us all!

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Aiya all!
[4:05 PM]
And yes, I do remember Buru

Varda10/04/2020
Buru?

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
The one Arien mentioned 15 minutes ago

Varda10/04/2020
Aiya Irmo, Eonwe, Arien, and Ar-Pharazon. : )
[4:07 PM]
Ah ok. : )

Irmo10/04/2020
somehting in... wow? <shivers uncontrollably>

Varda10/04/2020
hehe

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Buggy beasty in AQ, yes  Break his armor with eggs (I think? been a while) and then burst him down before he poisons the raid to death

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
aye thats the one

Pallando-Valar10/04/2020
Aiya

Varda10/04/2020
Aiya Pallando!

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Aiya Pallando!

Pallando-Valar10/04/2020
I am currently engaged as is per usual on Sundays.. I am fighting in 2v2 tournament, so I'm just going to paste a quick screenshot of my ranking and get back to it

Varda10/04/2020
That would be fantastic, thanks!

Pallando-Valar10/04/2020
http://puu.sh/Gzuib/72c6c04287.jpg
[Note: shows Pallando's place on the Leaderboard at the moment.]

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Engaged! applauds

Varda10/04/2020
May you do well!

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Hmm, you're doing well there.

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
ah nice one
[4:10 PM]
congratulations

Varda10/04/2020
Don't want to mess up that great record!
[4:12 PM]
Congratulations to all of you for keeping up any kind of group, let alone a Tolkien Fan Site and Gamers' Group, for so long!
[4:12 PM]
Thank you for the long-time companionship. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
You too

Varda10/04/2020
Dank de resp. : )

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Congratulations to you as well, and thank you for all you've invested, Tintallë :}

Varda10/04/2020
And you, Eonwe. : )

Irmo10/04/2020
Most likewise! Thanks all, but a special thanks to our two chairs, who have done so much work all these years

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Yes, they're very much the backbone

Varda10/04/2020
All of you have done plenty, but it could take a while to say it all.
[4:14 PM]
Like Phar being here for us for nearly every meeting.
[4:14 PM]
For Arien chairing when we just could not.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Sure, but so are you

Varda10/04/2020
For Irmo for keeping up the group in other games where we could not go.
[4:15 PM]
For Pallando keeping up the Eve group and helping any of us willing to come in, and still working with us after all this time.
[4:16 PM]
Did we mention all that spoke? : )
[4:16 PM]
Everyone here has been a big help.
[4:16 PM]
Any other membership news?
[4:17 PM]
Hi to Fladrif wherever you are
[4:17 PM]

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Web:
[4:17 PM]
Thanks to the Anniversary, we've had a flurry of activity. Always welcome!
[4:17 PM]
Thank you to Irmo for starting up the Forum thread for the anniversary. : )
[4:18 PM]
Eonwe has been working hard on the Games Site and all associated with it.
[4:18 PM]
Eonwe, would you like to tell a bit about it?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Sure.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
(Fladrif last online 17 hours ago)

Varda10/04/2020
(Thanks Phar)

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
The Games Site Mass Update for 2020 has been completed, and all new gaming info should be reflected for those who responded.(edited)

[Note: Games Site. Check your info and help Eonwe update with an email or in Discord.]
[Note: Letter to all from Eonwe.]

Varda10/04/2020
That's a giant undertaking.
[4:21 PM]
And he got it done before this meeting. : )

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Thank you indeed Eonwe and Varda

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
The State of Valar Gaming Report for 2020 has been posted to the Games Site.
[Note: also linked from the Anniversary page.]

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
without you nothing would happen nor me knowing when the others have to suffer my ramblings

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
The State of Valar Gaming 2020:
http://valarguild.org/gaming/news/state-of-valar-gaming-2020
    The Valar Guild Games Site
    Valar Guild Games Site

[4:22 PM]
I don't want to quote it all, but some of the highlights are as  follows:
[4:23 PM]
Our membership remains at 163. Our games played enough to want to meet other members there has gone from 30 to 22.
[4:25 PM]
51 e-mails were sent out to those listed as active on the Membership Page and listing an e-mail.
[4:25 PM]
18 members responded to the GSMU,. That's about the average the last couple of years.
[4:26 PM]
5 were undeliverable.

Irmo10/04/2020
So sorry, but I really must be off, have a great day all!

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
namarie!

Varda10/04/2020
Sleep well, and thanks for the Tolkien topic. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
sweet dreams!
[4:27 PM]
And if not, it's your own fault

Varda10/04/2020
hahaha

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
LotRO remains our primary game by a large margin, and gained 4 members over last year. WoW is second, and remains roughly consistent.
[4:28 PM]
Those are the highlights. You can read the report for more details.
[4:29 PM]
Sleep well Irmo and Happy Anniversary :}

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
ponders Hearthstone numbers Guess no response from Fladrif?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Nope.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
I'll have to poke him about that

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
:}
[4:31 PM]
That's it from me,... for now dun dun dun :}

Varda10/04/2020
eep
[4:31 PM]
More Web news
[4:32 PM]
That flurry of goodies thanks to the Anniversary includes
[4:32 PM]
Art from Ar-Pharazon
[4:32 PM]
"Alcarondas, Castle of the Sea"

[4:33 PM]
Stories from Eonwe:
[4:33 PM]
"Black Sails"
[4:33 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/BlackSails.htm
    Black Sails by Eonwë-(Valar)
    Reflections soldier sailing to the rescue of Minas Tirith with Aragorn. Written for the Valar Guild's 23rd Anniversary.
[4:33 PM]
"Losgar"
[4:33 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/Losgar.htm
    Losgar by Eonwë-(Valar)
    Reflections of a Noldo at the burning of the Telerin Ships. Written for the Valar Guild's 23rd Anniversary.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Arg, I better fix that meta tag description.
[4:34 PM]
for "Black Sails"

Varda10/04/2020
Feel free to email me the correction. : )
[4:35 PM]
And a rough draft of a poem from me, but at least got something up.
[4:35 PM]
I was a little stunned that our last poem was in 2017.
[4:35 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/poetry/ShipsThatSail.htm
    Ships that Sail the Night
    Poem set in Tolkien's Middle-earth
[4:35 PM]
(and you thought your meta tag description was bad)
[4:36 PM]
The main thing is to get something out there. We can attempt to polish later. If nothing is there, we have nothing to polish!
[4:36 PM]
2017 is just too long.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Didn't we have some riddle poems on the forum we can put in there?

Varda10/04/2020
Maybe. Check the dates too.
[4:37 PM]
Pardon the delay, trying to grab a link
[4:38 PM]
The anniversary page will have additions all through October and can be found at the bottom of the News page.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
https://valarguild.proboards.com/thread/1628/riddle-game-book has some from 2018
    The Riddle Game - Book I | Valar Guild
    Heya All! Since there was some interest expressed in reviving the riddle game we played several years ago, here we go!
    Since we're gearing this up, let's set up a few guidelines to help

Varda10/04/2020
Click News Archives at the top and you can find all sorts of goodies at the bottom.
[4:38 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/guild/NewsArchives/extras/2020/Anniv2020/anniv23rd.htm
    23rd Anniversary of the Valar Guild
    Year 2020, 23rd Anniversary celebration of the Valar Guild Tolkien fan club and gamers' group.
[4:39 PM]
Not sure the riddle game qualifies as they tend not to be complete, but maybe. Will have to check. Good thought!
[4:39 PM]
Thanks. : )
[4:40 PM]
Did I miss anything on the Web news? Feel free to speak up.
[4:40 PM]
We have screenies coming in. Some just in from Arien as you heard, and others incoming.
[4:41 PM]
Some of the riddles did make it into the Poetry page.
[4:41 PM]
I'll have to check to see if more can.
[4:42 PM]
Writing this here helps as a reminder of things needing done. : )
[4:42 PM]
Gaming? What's that? : )

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
hunts for more Jelly in WoW

Varda10/04/2020
Any other business, membership, web, gaming news?
[4:42 PM]
o right
[4:43 PM]
Gaming News. cough
[4:43 PM]
mmm jelly
[4:43 PM]

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Gaming News
[4:44 PM]
Eonwe, would you like to take that one? And I apologize to all that I have not checked the LotRO servers for today's report. hangs head

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Sure, you completely weren't busy elsewhere :}
[4:45 PM]
We understand, no worries :}
[4:46 PM]
I'll gladly take gaming :}
[4:46 PM]

World of Warcraft:
[4:46 PM]
Starting with the elephant in the room, Shadowlands has been delayed.
[4:47 PM]
We don't have a date at this time, just "later this year".
[4:47 PM]
We do however know the pre-expansion patch that brings all the big chances will be October 13th.
[4:48 PM]
For more info, the announcement is here --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23536678/an-update-on-shadowlands
    World of Warcraft
    An Update on Shadowlands - WoW
    Read an update on the development of and release plans for the next World of Warcraft expansion from executive producer John Hight.

[4:49 PM]
The Harvest Festival is going until October 6th. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22483126/in-remembrance-the-harvest-festival-has-begun
    World of Warcraft
    In Remembrance: The Harvest Festival Has Begun - WoW
    The yearly Harvest Festival is now underway in Azeroth.
    Fallen heroes of the Alliance and Horde are paid homage during this time of remembrance.

[4:49 PM]
This week's bonus event: Warlords of Draenor Timewalking.
[4:49 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Warsong Scramble is going until October 6th.
[4:50 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23277654/hotfixes-october-1-2020
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: October 1, 2020 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth and WoW Classic.

[4:50 PM]
Diablo 3:
[4:50 PM]
Patch 2.6.10 is up on the PTR. --- https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23529004/ptr-2610-is-now-live-9-25-2020
    Diablo III
    PTR 2.6.10 Is now live!
    Our two-week PTR testing period for the 2.6.10 update begins on October 1, and we're asking for your help to quell the tides of surging demons.

Diablo 4:
[4:51 PM]
We have some info on changes they making as they work on D4 in the quarterly update --- https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23529210/diablo-iv-quarterly-update-september-2020
    Diablo IV Quarterly Update—September 2020
    Join the Diablo IV team in learning more about the progress the team has made so far in this next Quarterly Developer Update.
    This time we take a closer look at a long-requested topic: Skills and Talents!

[4:52 PM]
Hearthstone:

Varda10/04/2020
spooky tree

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Indeed.
[4:52 PM]
Patch 18.4 is out --- https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23523062/18-4-patch-notes
    18.4 Patch Notes
    The 18.4 patch includes a Battlegrounds rating reset and Elementals update, Dual-Class Arena, and more!

[4:52 PM]
A new Dev Insight is also out --- https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23523064/developer-insights-hearthstone-battlegrounds-rating-system-update
    Developer Insights: Hearthstone Battlegrounds Rating System Update
    Take a deep dive into the new Battlegrounds rating system introduced in the 18.4 patch!

[4:53 PM]
That does it for the gaming info I have. I yield back the floor.

Varda10/04/2020
Thank you, Eonwe : )
[4:54 PM]
For those that pay a subscription in LotRO,
[4:55 PM]
they are having some payment changes that might need updated on your PayPal.
[4:55 PM]
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?683619-Payment-Processing-Notice-of-Change
    Payment Processing Notice of Change
    We have shifted the processing of certain payments through our LOTRO Store to a different payment processor.
    This has necessitated the change of a few available forms of payment:
    Paypal - Paypal users may need to re-enter their payment information that had been saved in t...
[4:55 PM]
I believe this is one of the security things they've been working on.
[4:56 PM]
The lag from the attacks has dropped off.
[4:56 PM]
I recommend using the 64 bit version rather than 32. It has far far less lag.
[4:56 PM]
People are running a lot of stuff like Remmorchant ahead of the update, trying to get the top gear ahead of the new raids.
[4:57 PM]
We fully expect junk landscape drops to beat some of even that, but we can always hope.
[4:57 PM]
Any other gaming news?
[4:58 PM]

StarCraft 2: Fangorn, Eowyn, and Faramir have been playing. : )  I'm sure others in here too.
[4:58 PM]
I might insert the LotRO gamers in here after collecting it. Have to give our brags. ; ) [Note: started it too late.]
[4:59 PM]
Any other news of any sort? Don't want anyone left out.
[5:02 PM]
on to
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Tolkien!
[5:02 PM]
First off, don't forget the Forum rp story. : )
[5:02 PM]
Next up, Irmo had a topic for us:
[5:03 PM]
By what quality did the ships of Lindon have the ability to reach Valinor in the 3rd area? Special ships (ala Aqualondë) or special shipwrights (aka Cirdan)? Or both? And how many passnegers have they taken back during the years? (Gandalf/Glorfindel/the orher wizards/any else?). And why could Legolas make one?
[5:03 PM]
Tackle whichever part of that you like or all at once. : )
[5:08 PM]
On how could Legolas make a boat that could reach Valinor, he may have had training from Imrahil.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Powered by friendship!

Varda10/04/2020
The port of Dol Amroth is known to have sent ships to Valinor. One was the ship from which Amroth jumped to try to go back to his Nimrodel.
[5:09 PM]
Friendship is a strong force. Might not be far off.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
I suspect it was more who was on the boat than who made the boat.

Varda10/04/2020
Now that is a strong possibility.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
All elves welcome!

Varda10/04/2020
Ring-bearers welcome if accompanied by elves and a Maia. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Dwarf welcome if accompanied by elf!

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
A whole crew of Dwarves could operate one of Cirdan's ships, but that doesn't guarantee they'll end up in Valinor. As mentioned already, though, Legolas made a ship of his own, and got there. He didn't exactly live near the water so I suspect he didn't have any secret shipbuilding lore.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
(honor level 70!)

Varda10/04/2020
Grats Phar : )

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Congrats :}

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Thanks

Varda10/04/2020
But Imrahil did and was easily available.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
A
[5:16 PM]
crew of Dwarves might not make it
[5:16 PM]
but one with an elf passenger might!

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
One sec, need to grab Sil for a quote before I make my next comment.

Varda10/04/2020
A question there might be if the dwarves would then be told to sail on back. They needed to be strong friends at least.
[5:17 PM]
yay well-referenced comments!
[5:18 PM]
grabs bite of supper that Sauron brought in, unconcerned about poison

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Dwarves weren't banned from the Aman per se.

Varda10/04/2020
True! They would go to Mahal!
[5:18 PM]
aka Aule.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Doesn't necessarily mean they'd feel they fit as well as an Elf, but they wouldn't necessarily have the same problem as a human.

Varda10/04/2020
Gimli and Legolas should be able to keep up their friendship in Valinor then.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
"Why do you people keep bringing hobbits in here?"

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Similar perhaps, since both are mortal, or perhaps a wholly different set of issues.

Varda10/04/2020
Thought they were dwarves!
[5:20 PM]
Humans and their variants go to Eru, but Dwarves go to Aule in Valinor.
[5:20 PM]
Not sure how much mixing might go on. Maybe feast days.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Ok, so here's my comment...
[5:20 PM]
Not to make it sound too mundane, but it could easily have been as simple as the Valar setting "permissions" just like on a server, and as long as the requisites are met, the ship gains access.
[5:21 PM]
And for my quote, we have this from the Akallabeth:

Varda10/04/2020
Elves and Dwarves Pass. Others, they shall not pass.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Filter: if "Elf" then Float

Varda10/04/2020
hehe

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
"And tales and rumours arose along the shores of the sea concerning mariners and men forlorn upon the water who, by some fate or grace or favour of the Valar, had entered upon the Straight Way and seen the face of the world sink below them, and so had come to the lampit quays of Avallonë, or verily to the last beaches on the margin of Aman, and there had looked upon the White Mountain, dreadful and beautiful, before they died."

Varda10/04/2020
Rough.
[5:23 PM]
Pharazon and crew were only allowed because the Valar waiting to see what Eru's judgment was.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
So if we take this tale at face value, it would seem that even then, some Men found their way upon the Straight Way, however they may have been permitted to do so.
[5:25 PM]
Pharazon and crew sailed a real ocean to arrive. There was no need of a "Straight Way" at the time.

Varda10/04/2020
Ones about to die anyway?
[5:25 PM]
Good point.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
so

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
It was this act that triggered the need of a "Straight Way" actually, to remove temptation completely from mortal man.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
ringbearers dead on arrival?

Varda10/04/2020
We hear that Men get to go to Valinor, at least Mandos, a short time before going on to Eru. Don't know if that's all of them or not.
[5:26 PM]
Special dispensation for some to get to see actual Valinor before death?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
To be healed of the wounds caused by the Ring, aye. [Note: Ringbearers]

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
"This place is beautiful!" "Yep. And now you're dead. Mandos is over there, good luck!"

Varda10/04/2020
Humans and hobbits arriving on Valinor tended to "live" faster there. So not instant we hope.
[5:28 PM]
And what Eonwe said. Plus a thank you.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Technically, I think it would be "live slower". Imagine the mind of a 100 year old in the body of a 10 year old.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Well, Bilbo and presumably Sam were quite old when they got there.

Varda10/04/2020
It was like burning out faster, if I'm remembering right.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
"There you would but wither and grow weary the sooner, as moths in a light too strong and steadfast."
That's how the Akallabeth puts it. I described it long ago like "Light-wraiths".

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
In that case, they were pretty burnt out already.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
HoME when discussing it talks about it similar to as I described right now. I don't have the exact spot in front of me, but it's not necessarily contradictory anyway.

Varda10/04/2020
That sounds right
[5:34 PM]
The idea of light-wraiths that burn out is interesting.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
The idea is that in Valinor the life cycle is set more to match Elves. The physical nature of the body would grow in that time, but the mind of the mortal would grow according to its nature.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
The moth thing is familiar.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
So while the body is just entering its spring, the mind is already thinking about winter, so to speak.(edited)
[5:35 PM]
This puts the body and spirit at disunion.

Varda10/04/2020
I don't see how they would be in spring if they arrive and start burning out

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
To be clear, in this instance we're speaking of a mortal born in Aman.
[5:37 PM]
I'm going to make me go find the passage, arent I? :}

Varda10/04/2020
Ahh, different subject - why would one be born in Aman?
[5:37 PM]
You're so mean to yourself. : )

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Well, if mortals moved to Aman, nature takes its course even in the Blessed Realm :}

Varda10/04/2020
But if they're burning out and the ones we hear about seem to be?

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Difficult, as only male mortals have gone there so far.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Well the argument is "Why can't we mortals come visit you in Aman, bring our kids, maybe build a house over on that hill there no one is living on?" Obviously it wouldn't stop with just a few mariners.

Varda10/04/2020
Thus the answer is no. : )
[5:40 PM]
You already have Middle-earth.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
For the record, Eonwë is making Eonwë find that passage now, so pardon if I'm silent :}

Varda10/04/2020
Ok : )
[5:43 PM]
We have reached the hour and burned past it by 43 minutes. : )
[5:44 PM]
However, we can still talk in After-meeting.
[5:44 PM]
the sparkly hammers toss confetti all around the hammerpad
[5:45 PM]
tap tink tonk twinkity twonk
[5:45 PM]

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After-meeting!
[5:45 PM]
we have a sparkly hammerpad on the table with confetti all over it.
[5:46 PM]
Nice thing about text is we can come back and catch up on what was said if we have to look away.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Yep  Did a battleground and a timewalk during the topic.

Ioreth10/04/2020
I discovered yesterday that they made the storm crow untamable on the start island. Oh well, it was fun. PTR never stays the same. They have announced when prepatch will be, and when the expansion will not be.

Varda10/04/2020
Aiya Ioreth : )
[5:57 PM]
and thanks for the info.

Ioreth10/04/2020
You did say it was after meeting

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Aiya

Varda10/04/2020
Yes it is
[6:00 PM]
You don't have to wait until after meeting to talk. : )
[6:00 PM]
That was an actual thank you

Ioreth10/04/2020
I will try again  once it is on live to see if I can tame the critter, but I suspect it won't happen. lol

Varda10/04/2020
They heard about you. : )
[6:02 PM]
Part of the fun of testing is getting to do stuff that can't be done in the main game.
[6:02 PM]
I like seeing the longer versions of a story in the testing for LotRO. They shorten a lot in the main game world.

Ioreth10/04/2020
I'm sure I'm not the only hunter out there to attempts to tame everything. Seems like one time there was even a raid boss that was tamable. That was years ago.

Varda10/04/2020
That would be a fun boss ending!

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Well, there was Oondasta, but that was later on...

Ioreth10/04/2020
It makes for not popular hunter. I have tamed bosses in dungeons before. Usually it breaks it and you have to restart to actually do the dungeon

Varda10/04/2020
oops

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
You'd think blizzard would've fixed that by now. Just make the fight reset.

Ioreth10/04/2020
Whomever wrote the Wikipedia about Valinor seems to have done a nice job.
[6:05 PM]
One such beast is the flaming storm crow in the dungeon in draenor. If you tame it you have to suicide by jumping off the platform

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Namarie my friends

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
namarie!

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
17 of those
[6:09 PM]
23 years i was with you already
[6:09 PM]
or something like that

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Yep, my 17th anniversary too

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
well you joined beforfe me think i might be wrong there

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
I joined exactly on the anniversary, you maybe later that year?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Here we go, I found it.
[6:11 PM]
And heya Ioreth :}

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
July 2006

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
14 years, then

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
14 years indeed

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
3 after me!

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
uhu

Ioreth10/04/2020
wow

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
today even for you Phari!#

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Yes!

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Happy Anniversary Ar Pharazon

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Thanks
[6:15 PM]
When I joined it felt like they'd been going for so long already.
[6:15 PM]
Next year I'll have witnessed 3/4 of the guild's lifespan
[6:15 PM]
So far, at least!

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
oh dear .. scary thought .. anyways yes .. but my eyes get tired
[6:16 PM]
and he rest of me too

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Namarie then

Arien  Valar10/04/2020
Namarie and have fun

Varda10/04/2020
Namarie!
[6:17 PM]
You've been a part of this a long time. : )

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Sleep well Arien :}

Varda10/04/2020
Happy Anniversary Phar

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Thanks

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Happy Anniversary Phar :}

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Thanks to all, but now I feel I should be congratulating others when they hit their personal anniversaries.. which rarely get brought up!

Varda10/04/2020
Guess we could check the Membership page for the later ones. heh

Ioreth10/04/2020
I joined when the guild was 16 - darned if I remember when though

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
October 2nd, 2012 according to the Membership Page. That would've been 2 days before the Guild's 15th birthday :}

Ioreth10/04/2020
Me?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Yes

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Happy anniversary

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
So Happy Anniversary :}

Ioreth10/04/2020
wow, the time has passed pleasantly

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Indeedy.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Irmo joined in August of 1999, so a little late to say Happy Anniversary for his joining, but you can catch him Nov 12th for his Anniversary of becoming a Vala :}

Varda10/04/2020
and Phar as Oct. 4, 2003

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
just to be safe
[6:24 PM]
Happy anniversaries to all

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Lol, touche :}

Varda10/04/2020
Sneaky : )

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
I bet you've all had an anniversary in the last year!

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
I suspect we have :}

Varda10/04/2020
Dec 1997 sometime for me.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
If we're leaving that open to any anniversary of any sort :}

Ioreth10/04/2020
Aren't you founder?

Varda10/04/2020
Eru is.
[6:26 PM]
Eonwe was Nov 6, 1999
[6:26 PM]
I am founder for the LotRO kins.
[6:26 PM]
Eru recruited me.
[6:27 PM]
We were back in Diablo then. : )

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
:}

Varda10/04/2020
Simplest to celebrate the guild's anniversary or we'd be in constant party mode. O wait, that's not a bad thing.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
We're like Hobbits that way: everybody's celebrating a birthday at some point.

Varda10/04/2020
The only game we had was Diablo 1. We met in the little channel get-together between games.
[6:28 PM]
Unbirthday time!

Ioreth10/04/2020
Is there an active Warcraft guild?

Varda10/04/2020
We could only fit 4 in a game. When the game ended, we were in the channel together, often liked to chat.
[6:29 PM]
Yes
[6:29 PM]
Eonwe handles that

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
World of Warcraft, yes. Warcraft 3, no.

Varda10/04/2020
We have classic playerr


Varda10/04/2020
The computer I was running WoW on died and I haven't gone back since pandas.
[6:33 PM]
Be sure to get in the Valar channel : )
[6:34 PM]
Eonwe has odd hours

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Late nights, aye. If you're not looking to be on at 2am Eastern time, best time to catch me is at a meeting.

Ioreth10/04/2020
got that channel

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Honored with the beez
[6:36 PM]
should be able to loot rich jelly now

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Have you learned if they have kneez?

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
The big one seems to have some!

Ioreth10/04/2020
aw... I'm supposed to do a whats-her-name mount run tonight. I'm finally getting used to the fight but still not very good

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Jaina?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
My guess is Jaina if you're doing current content?
[6:38 PM]
well, relatively current
[6:38 PM]
This expansion at least.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Indeed, we'll be fighting her again on tuesday

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Battle of Dazar'Alor.

Ioreth10/04/2020
the freeze-em lady... lol

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
aw c'mon, it's Jaina! She's one of the biggest lore characters in the game!
[6:39 PM]
I can tell you're Horde...
[6:41 PM]
Jaina made it to my shortlist of 7 names I'd like to name my daughter if I ever had one.

Varda10/04/2020
: )

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
:}
[6:44 PM]
Never really thought of making a short list, but I guess the ones at the top of mine would have 3 syllables.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
looks at Jaina girl name popularity chart sharp increase from the 2000s.. that's about right.
[6:45 PM]
Actually, I think 5 out of 7 in my list have 3 syllables.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
I don't think I even have 7 names, and I can't think of any that would have less than 3 syllables.

Ioreth10/04/2020
I'm long past having children, but I do wish we had at least adopted or maybe fostered.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
I have zero parenting instinct and have no idea how to deal with kids. It's just fun to speculate on names.

Ioreth10/04/2020
Of course, I collect names for other things. Dogs, geese, ducks, chickens

Varda10/04/2020
When you have kids, it's pretty natural to love and take care of them. Not rocket science. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
hehe

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
At least not until they build a rocket in your back yard, lol.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Loving and caring is probably not a problem. I have a feeling every priority in my life would shift if I had a child.

Ioreth10/04/2020
If I had had kids at the normal age, I would be bouncing grandkids or maybe even great grands on my knee

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
But taking care of their needs, their education, the rules to set up...
[6:50 PM]
needing to not panic when something happens...
[6:50 PM]
Plenty of stories out there of parents who love their children but do a lousy job raising them.
[6:50 PM]
Knowing me, I have no reason to think I'd not be among them.

Ioreth10/04/2020
I got the not panic part down. I was a school bus driver in one of my lifetimes, and also 4-H leader for horse/livestock group. No use panicking for either of those

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Nobody is a perfect parent. Everyone screws up in some way, the only question is how and did you do your best to give them the tools to overcome it.
[6:51 PM]
My opinion as not a parent, lol.
[6:52 PM]
But it comes as a given with the nature of humanity that we're not going to get everything right. We can only do our best.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
But some get less right than others, I'm sure
[6:55 PM]
I suppose it helps that the one woman I'd choose to marry, if I had to decide, seems to absolutely love kids... it might compensate for my mistakes!

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
If they reach adulthood with the tools to stand on their own two feet, take care of themselves and make their own way in life, then I have to believe something at least went right somewhere.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
tries to not get too personal at this late hour

Ioreth10/04/2020
glad that you have someone in mind...
[6:56 PM]
Hubby and I celebrated 39 year anniversary last month

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Oh you have nooooo idea how out of reach she is

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
You know it's coming now Ioreth.....
[6:56 PM]
Happy Anniversary :}

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Happy anniversary

Varda10/04/2020
I won't be able to make it to a 7 pm run, looks like.
[6:57 PM]
Happy Anniversary!

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
I won't pry, Phar :} I assume if she's really that far out of reach, no amount of "Reach for the stars" or "You can do it" pep talking is going to help, but I am going to assume you're not picking a movie star :}

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
coughs
[7:03 PM]
Does it help if it's a local movie/tv-star with an active personal instagram?

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
I have no advice to give on that, lol.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
No advice to be had  I know it's unrealistic.
[7:07 PM]
That said, I sent her a fangift/card for her birthday a few weeks ago (she makes no secret of her workplace) and am thinking of going to see her in a play in a few months.
[7:07 PM]
Not to bother her, just to see her live. If I turn stalky, shoot me now.
[7:08 PM]
Oof, honored I am, but rich jelly still doesn't wanna drop

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
I assume she makes no secret of her birthday either, hehe.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Nah

Ioreth10/04/2020
I wonder if it is based on how many people are harvesting

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
She spent the entire day re-story-ing instagram posts from other people congratulating her.
[7:10 PM]
Might be, Ioreth, but you'd think that'd just affect the deposit scarcity, not what they drop.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
One of these days I'll start on that whole bee-siness.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Don't let my complaining change your mind, I may rant all I like but in the meantime I'm still happily flying around Stormsong

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
No worries, it's my own disinterest keeping me from it, lol.
[7:14 PM]
But I eventually may need to check that box for the mount count.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
If nothing else, there's that.

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
OK my friends, put on those reading monocles because It's Quotin' Time!
[7:18 PM]
"If it is thus in Aman, or was ere the Change of the World, and therein the Eldar had health and lasting joy, what shall we say of Men? No Man has ever set foot in Aman, or at least none has ever returned thence; for the Valar forbade it. Why so? To the Numenoreans they said that they did so because Eru had forbidden them to admit Men to the Blessed Realm; and they declared also that Men would not there be blessed (as they imagined) but accursed, and would 'wither even as a moth in a flame too bright'.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Not too bright down here...

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Beyond these words we can but go in guess. Yet we may consider the matter so. The Valar were not only by Eru forbidden the attempt, they could not alter the nature, or 'doom' of Eru, of any of the Children, in which was included the speed of their growth (relative to the whole lief of Arda) and the length of their life-span. Even the Eldar in that respect remained unchanged.
[7:21 PM]
(emphasis the text's, not mine)
[7:24 PM]
Let us suppose then that the Valar had also admitted to Aman some of the Atani, and (so that we may consider a whole life of a Man in such a state) that 'mortal' children were there born, as were children of the Eldar. Then, even though in Aman, a mortal child would still grow to maturity in some twenty years of the Sun, and the natural span of its life, the period of the cohesion of hroa and fëa, would be no more than, say, 100 years. Not much more, even though his body would suffer no sickness or disorder in Aman, where no such evils existed...."
[7:25 PM]
Skipping some paragraphs to the part I was remembering...
[7:29 PM]
"But let us suppose that the "blessing of Aman was also according to Men. What then? Would a great good be done to them? Their bodies would still come swiftly to full growth. In the seventh part of a year a Man could be born and become full-grown, as swiftly as in Aman a bird would hatch and fly from the nest. But then it would not wither or age but would endure in bigour and in delight of bodily living. But what of the Man's fëa? Its nature and 'doom' could not be changed, neither by the health of Aman nor by the will of Manwë himself. Yet it is (as the Eldar hold) its nature and doom under the will of Eru that it should not endure Arda for long, but should depart and go elsewhither, returning maybe direct to Eru for another fate or purpose that is beyond the knowledge or guess of the Eldar.
[7:35 PM]
Very soon then the fëa and the hroa of a Man in AMan would not be united and at peace, but would be opposed, to the great pain of both. The hroa in full vigour and joy of life would cling to the fëa, lest its departure should bring death; and against death it would revolt as would a great beast in full life either flee from the hunter or turn savagely upon him. But the fëa would be as it were in prison, becoming ever more weary of all the delights of the hroa, until they were loathsome to it, longing ever more and more to be gone, until even those matters for its thought that it received through the hroa and its senses became meaningless. The Man would not be blessed, but accursed; and he would curse the Valar and Aman and all the things of Arda. And he would not willingly leave Aman, for that would mean rapid death, and he would have to be thrust forth with violence. But if he remained in Aman, what should he come to, ere Arda were at last fulfilled and he found release? EIther his fëa would be wholly dominated by the hroa, and he would become more like a beast, though one tormented within. Or else, if his fëa were strong, it would leave the hroa. Then one of two things would happen: either this would be accomplished only in hate, by violence , and the hroa, in full life, would be rent and die in suddent agony; or else the fëa would in loathing and without pity desert the hroa, and it would live on, a witless body, not even a beast but a monster, a very work of Melkor in the midst of Aman, which the Valar themselves would fain destroy."
[7:36 PM]
-- "Aman and Mortal Men", Myths Transformed, Morgoth's Ring
[7:36 PM]
I think there's another version of that I'm remembering as well, but that's the first one I found.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Zombie, zombie ♪

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Refrains from singing hehe

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Yay, my first looted rich jelly... after getting 4 bee bee guns, 3 empty hives and 98 thin jellies, getting me about a sixth of the way to revered.
[8:16 PM]
I didn't think they'd be this rare.
[8:16 PM]
Took me like 2 hours!
[8:16 PM]
Now I can stop for the day

Varda10/04/2020
Irmo's carrack in Black Desert Online. Took him over half a year to build there:
[8:19 PM]

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Oh my

Varda10/04/2020
On the anniversary page under Black Desert Online

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Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Perrrrsonal gaming report
[8:26 PM]

Flashgaming: 3 older ones, no new badges for me this week
[8:27 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/GlaielGamer/fracuum is a maze shooter game where with every level you go in, it zooms in, and becomes more difficult. Try to beat the entire maze!
    Kongregate
    Fracuum
    Made this is 48 hours for Ludum Dare #23. Theme was quotTiny Worldquot, and here#39s what I came up with.
    Enjoy!
    P.S. If you enjoyed the game consider tossing me a fe...


Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
https://www.kongregate.com/games/DrNeroCF/fancy-pants-adventure-world-2 is one of a platformer series, with a stick figure character wearing some fancy pants
    Kongregate
    Fancy Pants Adventure: World 2
    Fancy Pants returns with a fresh adventure! Select your fanciest pants and get ready for World 2!

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
In this episode, your ice cream is stolen by a bunny on a golf course, so go underground and chase after it!
[8:48 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/JuicyBeast/knightmare-tower for the last game! An upgrades/launch game wherein you jump up into a tower to rescue a bunch of princesses. Gather upgrades to be able to fight tougher enemies, make more speed, get more stuff!
    Kongregate
    Knightmare Tower
    Break through ceilings and rescue princesses as you cut your way to the top of the Knightmare Tower!

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[8:54 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
[8:54 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
Nothing new, still level 430. I did have a few more D.Va  matches, though, starting to get used to her new talents.
[8:57 PM]
Hearthstone:
Also no new levels. First legendary quest of the event came in to play an arena match, which is dual-class in this event. Actually won a match with a hunter/priest deck, but I still don't like arena, so I think I'll leave it here. The ticket was free anyway.
[8:58 PM]
Brawl is Rise of the Zombeasts, with 2 death knight Rexxars facing each other, and making beast combinations to put against each other. Lot of luck required, but it's best to create cheap beasts to have something on the board early. At 20 health for each hero, games tend to be aggressive anyway.
[8:59 PM]
And I opened some classic packs again, after a long time of stacking packs for.. whatever reason. Got 2 classic legendaries out of it!
[8:59 PM]
Cenarius the druid legendary, and Hogger, one of the neutral legendaries. Both will go nicely in my weird unique-card-based druid deck
[9:00 PM]
WoW:
[9:00 PM]
Still raiding! Nyalotha went really smooth this week, with a flawless N'Zoth fight at the end. Also a lot of dps going around.
[9:00 PM]
Mythic Jaina poked again, but no mount for me yet
[9:01 PM]
Weekly is timewalks, draenor, of which I've now done a few. It's the one timewalk I can't use my alts for, since they're too low. And since the level squish is coming up, after which all timewalks require level 50, they'll probably not be timewalking for a long long time.
[9:02 PM]
bi-weekly brawl up again, usually not too special, but this time I got level 70 honor out of it, so yay! Horsey got, Prestigious Azure Courser.
[9:03 PM]
Next milestone will be 80... containing my last artifact appearance
[9:03 PM]
More questing! Much more questing.
[9:04 PM]
Delved into alternate Mechagon once again, using a time displacer, and got the Rusted Prince rare there, which got me a new toy, the Judgment of Mechagon.
[9:04 PM]
Said toy was my 400th, which meant a reward: Brutus, the mechanical doggy
[9:05 PM]
Very cute, barking now and then, and constantly wiggling its "tail".
[9:05 PM]
I got 2 more minis in Mechagon too for the collection, Gazlowe and Cogstar.
[9:06 PM]
And I completed the questline for the mechaspider mount, getting me the Scrapforged Mechaspider!
[9:06 PM]
I then proceeded to do some more main questing!
[9:07 PM]
Completed the Nazjatar questline, ending with lfr-ing all 3 Eternal Palce wings and defeating Azshara.
[9:07 PM]
*Palace
[9:07 PM]
Then continued into the 8.2.5 story, completing the War Campaign by besieging Orgrimmar, and getting a new title, Veteran of the Fourth War.
[9:09 PM]
Got a new rank 4 essence, from Rajani paragon supplies. Now I'm done with that reputation, which means I can ignore the Pandaria assaults too
[9:09 PM]
But wait, there's more!
[9:10 PM]
I completed the heroic Darkshore warfront, unlocking a mount for sale, the Sandy Nightsaber.
[9:10 PM]
There's apparently also a cutscene unlocked with that, but haven't found the way to see that yet. Now that Darkshore is in patrol phase, I'll take a look tomorrow.
[9:11 PM]
Aaaaand I unlocked mechagnomes after that! Going through that fun little questline with Mekkatorque, Erazmin and Kelsey, Mechagon is freed storywise, and I got the Mechagon Mechanostrider mount as reward
[9:11 PM]
And then made my new alt Calectronica, whose armory I linked earlier this week
[9:14 PM]
And with that, my biggest projects I wanted to do before SL were done, so I capped it off by doing the quest to get rid of my Gift of N'Zoth, getting the eyeball as a toy reward instead; and after that visiting Anduin for the post-N'zoth quest, which also led to the aftermath of the fourth war and the armistice.
[9:15 PM]
And then I started the bee questline in Stormsong, where I'm now honored! I hope to complete it before the patch, but shouldn't be a problem.
[9:15 PM]
And that's my report for the week
[9:18 PM]
busy busy week!

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
:}
[9:24 PM]
Oh, I didn't mention this earlier, but the Darkmoon Faire is going for those interested.

Ar-Pharazon-V10/04/2020
Ah yes
[9:28 PM]
well, namarie! and meeting took so long, it took me forever to get my own transcript copied...
[9:28 PM]
so many bugs when it comes to sections of text
[9:28 PM]
Not sure how Varda does it, but good luck

Eonwë Valar10/04/2020
Sleep well :}

Varda10/04/2020
With much editing. : )
[10:12 PM]
Namarie for now. More will be added to the news and anniversary pages, just not tonight. : )

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Varda10/05/2020
GSMU credit added on Membership page. Hoping to add a batch of the great screenies tomorrow. Your screenies are not forgotten! : )

Eonwë Valar10/05/2020
:}

October 6, 2020

Eonwë Valar10/06/2020
I look at all these books and scrolls and stuff in my inventory, and I wonder why Blizzard hasn't given us some sort of Lorebook to store all this stuff in yet.
[3:02 PM]
We have the Appearance tab for gear, Tabs for Pets and Mounts, Toys, and Heirlooms, but nothing for all these books and scrolls they give us every expansion.

October 7, 2020

Varda10/07/2020
That would be cool.

October 8, 2020

Eonwë Valar10/08/2020
Heh, I was just in a HotS match with someone named Treebeard.

October 9, 2020

Arien  Valar10/09/2020
(big smiley)

October 10, 2020

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:33 PM
For those interested: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/guild/us/lothar/valar-guild/achievements/dungeons-raids
    World of Warcraft
    Valar Guild - Guild Achievements - WoW
    Achievements earned by the Alliance guild 'Valar Guild' on Lothar - US

[9:34 PM]
Now reflects our collection of Frostmourne and completion of "The Ultimate Collection".
[9:36 PM]
Guess I didn't mention it earlier, but we got it Tuesday after the weekly reset.

[Note: Most chat switches back to Harbor after this.]
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