Valar Guild

September 6, 2020 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by
Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular smiley]

Attending (and spoke): (7)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon-V, Eonwë, Ioreth (After-meeting), Pallando (After-meeting), Shelob (After-meeting), Varda (presiding)
    LotRO: Lenwë

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
    General reports:
     GSMU emails going out this week. (After-meeting)
 Tolkien:
    Topic: Making things that are Tolkienesque, including tapestries.
    Topic: Since we got onto the topic of boats and water, who are Ulmo, Ossë, and Uinen? And what is her hair?
    Adding folktale elements to stories.
    Forum RP discussion and posting.
After-meeting:
    Fuel for Aulë.
    RP post with Arien's Frali. (broken across other chat)
    RP storage problem if bareback for the characters. Discussion. Aid from Ioreth.
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
    WoW box-gaming report by Ioreth
    Pannier to aid our storage problem in the RP. More on riding bareback.
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Before-meeting

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 3:56 PM
Salutations

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 3:56 PM
Aiya!

VardaYesterday at 3:59 PM
Aiya
[4:00 PM]
@Bounder Huzzah! Meeting time. Come say hi!
[4:01 PM]
Lenwe and Erkenbrand are fighting evil in LotRO. : )
[4:02 PM]

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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:02 PM]

Membership:
[4:02 PM]
Good to see you here. Much appreciated.
[4:02 PM]
Any membership news you'd like to pass along? Valar sightings like the one above maybe?
[4:03 PM]
From Lenwe:
[4:03 PM]
[Kinship] Doctior: Send my greetings if I don't make it
[4:04 PM]

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Web:
[4:04 PM]
Nothing new to report, sorry.

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Gaming:
[4:05 PM]
Lenwe and Erkenbrand just disappeared off LotRO at the same time, does not bode well.
[4:06 PM]
Eonwe says he can take the Gaming section.
[4:06 PM]
Fire when ready!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 4:06 PM
Thanks :}
[4:06 PM]

World of Warcraft:

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:06 PM
Member: Fladrif online 2 hours ago?

VardaYesterday at 4:07 PM
yay

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 4:07 PM
Blizzard has a poll going to choose a mount that will be given to anyone with Shadowlands active on their account at a certain point in Q1 2021. Check it out here. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23513936/choose-the-next-shadowlands-mount
World of Warcraft
Choose the Next Shadowlands Mount - WoW
Vote for which Shadowlands mount you’d like to add to your stable—the sentient Wandering Ancient, the mystical Soaring Spelltome, the creepy Nerubian Swarmer, the enormous Curious Caterpillar, or the playful Gooey Slimesaber. The top-voted choice internationally will be made r...

[4:07 PM]
A new cinematic is out: Afterlives: Maldraxxus. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23507728/watch-shadowlands-afterlives-maldraxxus
World of Warcraft
Watch Shadowlands Afterlives: Maldraxxus - WoW
Continue your journey beyond the veil with a look into the birthplace of necromantic magic and home of the protectors of the Shadowlands with our latest animated short—Afterlives: Maldraxxus.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:07 PM
I wanted the caterpillar but it's not winning

Arien  ValarYesterday at 4:07 PM
Aiya all

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:07 PM
Aiya!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 4:08 PM
Blizzard brought back the Impressive Influence rep buff for the month of September. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23507733/the-impressive-influence-100-bonus-reputation-buff-returns
World of Warcraft
The Impressive Influence 100% Bonus Reputation Buff Returns - WoW
Your goals are in reach with the return of the Impressive Influence buff through the month of September.

VardaYesterday at 4:08 PM
Aiya : )

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 4:08 PM
This week's bonus event: Mists of Pandaria Timewalking.
[4:08 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Arathi Blizzard is running this week until Tuesday, September 8th.
[4:08 PM]

Heroes of the Storm:

Two new blogs are out on the reworks of two characters: Gazlowe's Hero Rework: A Bruiser You Want to Scrap With and She's Back in the Fight!: Inside D.Va's Rework. ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/23509394/gazlowe-s-hero-rework-a-bruiser-you-want-to-scrap-with ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/23494820/she-s-back-in-the-fight-inside-d-va-s-rework
Gazlowe’s hero rework: A Bruiser you want to scrap with
You’re going to want to take a look at this Gazlowe hero rework . . . he’s a miracle of Goblin engineering!

She’s Back in the Fight!: Inside D.Va’s Rework
We caught up with David Warner, senior game designer on the Heroes of the Storm team and one of the talented individuals spearheading D.Va’s rework, to hear more about everyone’s favorite MEKA pilot and what it’s like to rework heroes.

[4:09 PM]
Hearthstone:

[4:09 PM]
Patch 18.2 came out this week. ---
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23509390/18-2-patch-notes
18.2 Patch Notes
This patch introduces Battlegrounds parties, the Forbidden Library limited-time event, balance updates, and more!

Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:10 PM]
Update 27.3.2 came out this week. --- https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?682945-Update-27-3-2-Release-Notes
Update 27.3.2 Release Notes
Click here for the Release Notes.
[4:10 PM]
And I yield the floor back to Varda for the week's LotRO sightings :}

VardaYesterday at 4:10 PM
Thank you. : )
[4:10 PM]
Landroval server:
Ancalagon
Eonwe
Erkenbrand
Fangorn
Hurin
Lenwe
Nar
Varda

Ithil server:
Fangorn
Varda
 
Anor server:
Fangorn
Varda
[Note: Aranuir showed up in LotRO during the meeting.]

[4:10 PM]
Please note Ancalagon and Erkenbrand : )
[4:11 PM]

Also, for StarCraft:
Eowyn, Fangorn, and Faramir that I know of.
[4:11 PM]
That's all my gaming news. Any other gaming?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:12 PM
Can mention that there's a new Storm PTR up..

VardaYesterday at 4:12 PM
Sure : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:12 PM
and one of the more noticeable things is that brawls are going to change/be replaced, and no longer giving a weekly lootchest, so I'll have... no more reason to do them over AI games, I guess?
[4:13 PM]
Ah well, things change.

VardaYesterday at 4:13 PM
What will their new incentive be or do we know?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:14 PM
No new incentive compared to quick matches and AI games, but they will start contributing to the daily and event quests.
[4:14 PM]
They'll just be another game mode.

VardaYesterday at 4:14 PM
So more gaming.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:15 PM
But one with no new incentive for me in particular

VardaYesterday at 4:15 PM
Their loss

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:15 PM
hehe, right.... but it does mean I can just do 2 AI games on friday

VardaYesterday at 4:16 PM
Leaves you five minutes for LotRO.... /duck

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:16 PM
I can take a scroll around Hobbiton?

VardaYesterday at 4:17 PM
Sure! They've been having Farmer's Faire there. Enjoy!
[4:17 PM]
Now that I'm in trouble...
[4:17 PM]
time for
[4:17 PM]

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Tolkien!
[4:18 PM]
deflect
[4:18 PM]

We were considering things to make for the Anniversary,
meanwhile a French museum has been making tapestries
of JRRT's drawings. Not easy!
[4:19 PM]
Those drawings were pretty small to translate to tapestries.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:19 PM
I'm working on it! Explored information about Alcarondas and 4masters in general to get a general idea of what it could look like

VardaYesterday at 4:19 PM
It's a way of going back to the days when books had tapestries made for them, and
[4:19 PM]
cool, Phar.
[4:19 PM]
So they thought they'd bring back the tradition.
[4:20 PM]
When they tossed the idea around, JRRT immediately came up from everyone - so they got  it worked out with the Tolkien Estate.
[4:20 PM]
Takes years to make those things.
[4:20 PM]
Should be done sometime in 2021, they think.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:21 PM
In time for the next anniversary?

VardaYesterday at 4:21 PM
Sooo, I don't think I'll be doing a tapestry, but maybe some of you have some ideas. : )
[4:21 PM]
Likely, at least most of them.
[4:24 PM]
We've had amazing things made in our group.
[4:25 PM]
Paintings, sculptures, woodcuttings, mosaics are some.
[4:25 PM]
and of course screenshots. : )
[4:26 PM]
Since the theme is boats/ships, we might consider things related to Ulmo, Osse, and Uinen.
[4:26 PM]
Who are those three characters anyway? I'll bet you know.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:26 PM
I will after this timewalk

VardaYesterday at 4:27 PM
No hurry
[4:27 PM]
And Aranuir just showed up in LotRO, have to add him to this week's list!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:27 PM
shouldn't that be next week's?

VardaYesterday at 4:28 PM
hmm
[4:28 PM]
I run back 6 days, so that's a good question

Arien  ValarYesterday at 4:30 PM
depends on whether you count sunday or monday as start of the week

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:30 PM
Or just "from meeting"

VardaYesterday at 4:31 PM
Stay alive and then we can talk about Valar and Maiar of the waters.
[4:32 PM]
Maybe what are the Riverwomen.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:32 PM
Fish.

VardaYesterday at 4:32 PM
Mermaids? : )
[4:32 PM]
Rusalka? : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:32 PM
Rivermaids?

VardaYesterday at 4:33 PM
maybe not the ones I just mentioned, heh
[4:33 PM]
Gollum-approved fish.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:33 PM
hehe
[4:34 PM]
So tasty sweet.

VardaYesterday at 4:34 PM
smashes on a rock
[4:34 PM]
At least he didn't eat them live
[4:36 PM]
hmm that was movie. I don't remember in the book. gasp

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:36 PM
The scene itself was there... including the song.
[4:37 PM]
Unsure about the rocksmacking

VardaYesterday at 4:37 PM
Faramir was really pushing Frodo. Well, should we shoot?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:37 PM
What do you think? Huh? Huh? Right in the face?
[4:38 PM]
Wanna bet I can hit him the nose?

VardaYesterday at 4:38 PM
Manipulating. He learned a bit from dear ol' daddy Denethor. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:38 PM
You know you want to!

VardaYesterday at 4:41 PM
If anyone else is here, you don't have to stick Phar with answering the Who are Ulmo, Osse, and Uinen. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:41 PM
In a Fellowship videogame I played, there was a secret in one of the last areas where you could track down Gollum and recieve a fish.

VardaYesterday at 4:41 PM
o fun : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:42 PM
It would replace Anduril, and was the best weapon in the game.

VardaYesterday at 4:42 PM
We get a fair bit of Gollum in LotRO for some reason. : )
[4:42 PM]
The fish weapon! Someone should tell Aragorn!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p0U5tfRdik about half an hour in
    YouTube
    Radmaster
    The Lord of the Rings : the fellowship of the ring walkthrough part...

VardaYesterday at 4:44 PM
Thank you : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:46 PM
Possibly better quality out there somewhere

VardaYesterday at 4:47 PM
in-game : )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTYmJn1BZik here we go
    YouTube
    IIITSIII
    Gollum Sword Easter Egg - LotR: The Fellowship of the Ring Game

VardaYesterday at 4:51 PM
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/art/gallery/Elatan/mosaics/mosaics.htm
    Mosaics
    Tolkien-inspired mosaic art by Elatan-(T).

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 4:52 PM
I remember that game. Never expected it would have something like that in there. Guess I didn't explore enough.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:52 PM


VardaYesterday at 4:52 PM
A seeecret.
[4:52 PM]
As for Ulmo, here are some crib notes:
[4:52 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/articles/u/Ulmo/Ulmo.htm
    Ulmo
    Articles about Ulmo, a Vala invented by Tolkien.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:53 PM
Ah yes. Ulmo, Osse and Uinen, not counting accents.
[4:53 PM]
Vala and Maiar of the sea. Or were they Valar too/
[4:53 PM]
?

VardaYesterday at 4:53 PM
Ulmo was a Vala, an Aratar.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:54 PM
The other two, I mean.

VardaYesterday at 4:54 PM
The other two were, or are Maiar
[4:54 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/articles/o/Osse/Osse.htm
    Osse
    Articles concerning Osse, written for the Valar Guild Tolkien Encyclopedia.
[4:54 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/articles/u/Uinen/Uinen.htm
    Uinen
    Articles concerning Uinen, written for the Valar Guild Tolkien Encyclopedia.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:54 PM
I remember Uinen's hair was spread through every stream. I always imagined it wouldn't be nice to find hairs in my drinking water from the river.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 4:56 PM
Seaweed

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 4:56 PM
That makes more sense

VardaYesterday at 4:56 PM
Aye, seaweed in your drinking water. : )
[4:59 PM]

http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/articles/g/Goldberry/GoldberryV.htm
    Goldberry
    Article on Goldberry, a character by Tolkien. Written for the Valar Guild Tolkien Encyclopedia.

[5:00 PM]
We just have to work out what the folklore/myth is explaining. Can get pretty interesting.
[5:00 PM]
I like to look at all sorts of folklore.
[5:01 PM]
Pele of Hawaii has a lot of tales that turn out to be mnemonic devices to track volcanic activity.
[5:01 PM]
A researcher figured this out and made discoveries in real life that way. Reading helps. ; )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:02 PM
Ooh, that reminds me.

VardaYesterday at 5:02 PM
So when we write our tales of folklore/myth in JRRT's world, we might think of adding in such elements for fun.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:02 PM
I read a book about a scientist who tracked Odysseus' steps in the Odyssey.
[5:02 PM]
Supposedly the cyclops was based on a volcano

VardaYesterday at 5:02 PM
That would make some sense!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:03 PM
Quite interesting book

VardaYesterday at 5:03 PM
Now I want to read it.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:04 PM
That reminds me that I should add to the RP. Did you want to add anything before I did, Arien?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:05 PM
I think it was Dutch. But there must be similar studies out there, Varda.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:06 PM
Pardon, not to interupt the discussion.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:07 PM
Nah, it was fine, I was distracted, hence the late reply.

VardaYesterday at 5:07 PM
This is kind of neat:
[5:07 PM]
In a 2003 article from National Geographic , it was reported that the tusk, several teeth, and bones of a Deinotherium giganteum were unearthed for the first time on the island of Crete. This animal, whose name roughly means ‘giant terrible beast’, is a distant relative of today’s elephants.

At the center of the creature’s skull is a large nasal opening and palaeontologists today assume that a trunk used to cover that area. To the ancient Greeks who found such skulls, it is entirely plausible that they interpreted the hole as an eye socket, and in turn physical evidence for the existence of the cyclopes.
[5:08 PM]
.(edited)
[5:08 PM]
ahh, I should go check the rp!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:08 PM
Note to self ; You still need to get a copy of Beowulf:The Monsters and the Critics.

VardaYesterday at 5:10 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:10 PM
Not sure about Crete, but I think the Odyssey bit got traced to an island off Italy. Stromboli, perhaps.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:10 PM
I remember a reference to it in another book I read on Tolkien mentioning something about him commenting that,.. Grendel I think it was, might've been a Tyrannosaurus Rex. Assuming I'm not mixing it up in the 15 or so years since I read that book.

VardaYesterday at 5:11 PM
Auros, then Fainan, then Calion

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:11 PM
On the other hand, I think I might have a copy of Beowulf translated by Tolkien sitting somewhere around here.

VardaYesterday at 5:12 PM
That sounds like  a good book to have. : )
[5:12 PM]
It had to help him when teaching that class on Beowulf every year.
[5:13 PM]
Have one decent English translation for the students.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:13 PM
I remember seeing it at the bookstore. Question is if it ever made it into the basket, heh.

VardaYesterday at 5:13 PM
annnd now you have two.
[5:15 PM]
We have reached the hour. (and ok a bit over)...
[5:15 PM]

the gavel taps the sundial and gives the chairperson a look
[5:16 PM]
the gavel goes forth in a jolting hop annd...
kabop!
the hammerpad was lying in wait
the gavel goes back to the shelf, but not in a straight line
[5:16 PM]

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After-meeting!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:17 PM
The hammerpad strikes back?

VardaYesterday at 5:17 PM
There you have it!
[5:17 PM]
and free chat time. : )
[5:18 PM]
Thank you to Sauron for bringing a beautiful dinner to the computer! This right after spending so much time working with Fangorn on carpentry today. Amazing surprise!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:19 PM
...Sauron.. Fangorn... carpentry...
[5:19 PM]
bad thought...

VardaYesterday at 5:19 PM
Sounds scary

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:19 PM
Makes me feel sorry for Fangorn.
[5:19 PM]
A table with Fangorn's face on it...

VardaYesterday at 5:20 PM
Sauron's a big guy in rl, but Fangorn is even bigger. : )  They're fine.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:20 PM
Aulë: "Still, they will need wood."

VardaYesterday at 5:20 PM
heh, yep

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:20 PM
:}
[5:21 PM]
Makes you wonder what exactly Aulë used to keep his forges going with Yavanna as his wife, hehe.
[5:22 PM]
Coal perhaps, but would that get the fires hot enough for his uses?

VardaYesterday at 5:22 PM
o look - volcanoes

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:22 PM
Coal, of course, being squished wood

VardaYesterday at 5:22 PM
Sauron got the idea from someone. : )
[5:24 PM]
Forge a Ring in a volcano

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:24 PM
Then again, he'd have to be using something before the coal formed, presumably.
[5:24 PM]
Magma flows in Aulë's smithy,.. now that's an idea, hehe.

VardaYesterday at 5:24 PM
*Aule squooshes the firewood with his hammer. * "There, coal!"

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:25 PM
dwarf accidentally falls in "Don't worry about me, I was already dead anyway."

VardaYesterday at 5:25 PM
Just another robot

[5:26 PM]
Arien will be taking a look at the forum

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:29 PM
Apparently Tolkien did the Fall of Arthur as well.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:30 PM
Tolkien killed Arthur?

VardaYesterday at 5:30 PM
oops

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:30 PM
The pen is mightier than the sword....

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:31 PM
Easier to stick in someone's eye, I'm guessing.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 5:31 PM
I am not sure where Frali is when the horses come to Auros

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:31 PM
Kind of like how video killed the radio star....

Arien  ValarYesterday at 5:32 PM
is he walking around on his own or does he stay with Auros?

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:33 PM
He seemed willing to jump down into a hole by himself, hehe.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 5:33 PM
yeah but he came back

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:35 PM
I think so far in the story Frali's been hanging around with Fainan, correct? Might be not-too-obviously searching in an area near Fainan?
[5:36 PM]
Or might just be looking around for other holes/entries into the underground area.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:37 PM
Fainan's a dwarf and he's digging a hole, diggy diggy hole ♪

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:38 PM
Counts to 3 waiting for the edit....
[5:38 PM]
Fainan is a dwarf? :}

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:38 PM
Ehr.
[5:38 PM]
Frali
[5:38 PM]
Too similar

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:39 PM
:}

VardaYesterday at 5:39 PM
I planty planty tree. : )
[5:40 PM]
let that one get into filk music now

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:41 PM
:}

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:41 PM
She is an elf and she's planting a tree, planty planty tree.


ShelobYesterday at 5:43 PM
Aiya!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:45 PM
Aiya Shelly!

Arien  ValarYesterday at 5:45 PM
Post
[5:46 PM]
Aiya Shelly

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:46 PM
Heya.

ShelobYesterday at 5:46 PM
Shelly is Sheldon. I'd prefer Penny or Leonard. ^^

Arien  ValarYesterday at 5:46 PM
Penny sounds cool
[5:47 PM]
i like the name

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 5:47 PM
Aww. I thought if you call me Pharzy I can call you Shelly
[5:47 PM]
What about Lobby?
[5:47 PM]
Lobsywobsy?

Arien  ValarYesterday at 5:47 PM
attercop ducks and hides

ShelobYesterday at 5:49 PM
Lobsywobsy is fine.
[5:50 PM]
But I'm eating you when the time comes.


Eonwë ValarYesterday at 5:58 PM
Was just going to say : "So Frali wasn't curious about Auros' whistle."

VardaYesterday at 5:59 PM
Aiya Shelob
[5:59 PM]
Was afk. We are in After-meeting. : )
[6:00 PM]
free chat, yay

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:00 PM
Not that Frali has to be, hehe. Just making sure.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:00 PM
i can add that he is returning on the whistle
[6:03 PM]
there

ShelobYesterday at 6:05 PM
Bedtime! Just wanted to drop in and say hi.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:05 PM
good night Shelob  sleep well

VardaYesterday at 6:05 PM
Thanks!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:05 PM
Sleep well.

VardaYesterday at 6:05 PM
Good night

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:06 PM
Namarie Lobsy!

VardaYesterday at 6:06 PM
Thanks, Arien. : )
[6:06 PM]
That finishes a round of forum rp, ready for a new one!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:07 PM
Not quite the camp, the edge of the ruins. We haven't set a camp here, if we intended to.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:11 PM
oki corrected

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:17 PM
So here's a thought: If Elves ride horses bareback, to what do they afix their saddlebags? :}

VardaYesterday at 6:17 PM
Backpacks? Handy haversacks? cloak pockets?
[6:17 PM]
See what the American Indians did, I guess
[6:18 PM]
travois

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:18 PM
Don't you have those saddlebags you strap across the back of a horse without a saddle? Or would it fall off?

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:19 PM
Can they be called saddlebags if they don't connect to a saddle? :}

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:19 PM
Saddlessbags?

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:20 PM
saddlebags wouldnt really fit on an elven horse
[6:20 PM]
since they ride without bridle or saddle or?

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:21 PM
I've already painted myself into a bit of a corner, because Auros has some sort of bags flung over Sulenar's back when he rides.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:21 PM
bags sure .. you know too bags tied together that would be slung across the neck of the horse but probably in front of themselves actually

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:21 PM
We'd have to be carrying provisions, and I can't imagine we're all wearing backpacks while riding.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:21 PM
rather than behind unless they ared strapped under the horse

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:21 PM
Espcecially not Fainan with Frali fighting to cling to her while the horse gallops, lol.

VardaYesterday at 6:22 PM
Frali is hanging onto the backpack? : )

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:22 PM
sits on top of the backsack might be more comfy on his bum hehe

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:22 PM
I think I was thinking about those, Arien.
[6:23 PM]
As for me, I just tie a knapsack to my horse's tail.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:23 PM
Resist urge to say Frali is in the backpack. Resist urge to say Frali is in the backpack. Frali is........on top of the backpack? swish

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:24 PM
although i always found galloping on a bareback horse not that bad eslecially when you do it right and have good knee closure  .. thats what keeps u atop .. reins are not rails for keeping balance contrary to what people think

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:27 PM
Think it might be more painful for a male?

VardaYesterday at 6:30 PM
I suspect Indians just didn't go that far from camp when bareback, or didn't pack much of anything.
[6:30 PM]
We do tend to want to take a house trailer with us. : )
[6:31 PM]
Aye, legs hold you in place and give directions to the horse

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:32 PM
Well, i guess something like this is possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannier.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:33 PM
i had riding lessons from six to fourtin or fifteen and was riding maybe four or fve times since sigh

VardaYesterday at 6:33 PM
I think maybe just didn't carry much. All you need is a knife. Use the blanket you've been sitting on or using for a cloak for a bedroll. Quiver on leg, bow on back, or spear in hand and shield on back.
[6:33 PM]
Waterskin and gathering pouch on belt.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:34 PM
i loved riding and love horses  but i am missing it too expensive and no real time or horses bitg enough for me

VardaYesterday at 6:34 PM
aww. No public riding parks around?

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:34 PM
nope
[6:35 PM]
think the next decent riding centre with maybe anything bigger than ponies might be on the shores of Loch Ness

VardaYesterday at 6:35 PM
Move to the Houston, Texas area. ; )
[6:35 PM]
Ride Nessy?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:35 PM
...Thanks, Varda, I was trying to come up with something like that

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:35 PM
3 swords, a knife, maybe bow and quiver/arrows. bandages, maybe a change of clothes, and food/water are the basics I would imagine for Auros.

VardaYesterday at 6:35 PM
Fast typing ftw!
[6:36 PM]
Change of shirt maybe. : )
[6:36 PM]
Find soapweed around the pond
[6:36 PM]
or a couple of rocks

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:37 PM
sand in the desert or in land on a dusty rope

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:37 PM
I'll bring my banjo!

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:37 PM
.dusty road even

VardaYesterday at 6:38 PM
hang them on  a line in a sandstorm?

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:38 PM
at least when they are not wet they cant endup as mudstatues

VardaYesterday at 6:40 PM
or just get used to the um "scent". Tracking can be easy downwind.

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:41 PM
hehe
[6:41 PM]
right .. enough Nonsense  guess its bedtime yawns

VardaYesterday at 6:42 PM
Sleep well!

Arien  ValarYesterday at 6:42 PM
have fun , friends and fellow Valarites
[6:42 PM]
Namarie all

VardaYesterday at 6:42 PM
Namarie : )

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:42 PM
Sleep well.
[6:42 PM]
I'm writing my next part as we speak.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:42 PM
Namarie!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 6:43 PM
GSMU mails going out tonight or tomorrow.
[6:43 PM]
More to come later.

VardaYesterday at 6:43 PM
Thank you. That's good membership news. We'll need to be watching!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:44 PM
Interesting. I'm not actually sure what I'd need to put down... since D3 and SCII are on hold and I have a ton of other games in my "to play" list where I won't know if they'll come up during the year, or if I'll be interested in multiplayer with them.
[6:44 PM]
I'll decide on something.

VardaYesterday at 6:44 PM
You can update it if things change.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:44 PM
True.

VardaYesterday at 6:44 PM
Just tell what you're doing now. Add others when they come up.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:45 PM
Yeah, that works. Right now I'm between games though; finished TA and before I launch into TA:Kingdoms I'll want to 1) do my art project, 2) get some stuff done in WoW before prepatch and 3) write another bio
[6:46 PM]
Anyway, personal gaming report!

VardaYesterday at 6:46 PM
Art!

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:47 PM
Yeah, y'know, the boat

VardaYesterday at 6:47 PM
Yes!!
[6:47 PM]
The Art Game, that's what it is. ; )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:47 PM
Anyway, flashgaming: 3 not new games, but fun, and some fond memories
[6:47 PM]
Heh, if you like.

VardaYesterday at 6:47 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 6:49 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/BerzerkStudio/heros-arms is the first game! Probably my favorite Zeldalike game, it is quite a grind to get all the levels and items and achievements, but I enjoyed every minute of it
Kongregate
Hero's Arms
Hi all!
This is our new game, which is kind of a good-old Zelda-like adventure game. We made it very retro-fashioned on purpose, to bring back the “magic” of t...

[6:50 PM]
Fight stuff, get items, unlock hearts, complete dungeons, get overpowered by leveling your skills, complete some fun quests, and enjoy the music
[6:50 PM]
And complete the coliseum twice for both rewards

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 7:00 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Pixelante/pixel-legions for the second game! A tactical strategy game where you fight with armies of pixels you spawn from your base. You can move your base and the pixels around, and have to engage your enemies in combat to destroy the base without letting yours get destroyed.
    Kongregate
    Pixel Legions
    Armies of glowing pixels wage war in this fast-paced tactical action game. Employ a mix of clever strategy and brute force to dominate your opponents. New surp...

[7:00 PM]
...Simpler than I explained it, perhaps
[7:01 PM]
Sort of a cell game, which you know I like, but without the extra cells to conquer. Destroying one enemy doesn't allow you to claim its base or increase your own strength. But it does mean one less enemy to attack you

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 7:28 PM
Posted. And we are now on page 2 :}
[7:34 PM]
Ok, now I know why I haven't bought "Beowulf: The Monsters and the Critics" earlier: I can't quite justify the $150.00 price tag.

VardaYesterday at 7:36 PM
Egad, that's a lot of moolah.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 7:36 PM
That might be it

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 7:48 PM
Okay, I just enjoyed playing the third game so much, I even got the second badge for it without noticing

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 7:50 PM
Hmm, I'm suddenly wondering if I ever got that copy of Cantebury Tales I was eyeing way back when. And the fact that I have to ask that question tells me it's been much too long since I looked at my bookshelf, heh.(edited)

VardaYesterday at 7:50 PM
Grats Phar

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 7:50 PM
And congrats Phar :}

VardaYesterday at 7:50 PM
Canterbury Tales you can probably pick up from Gutenberg
[7:53 PM]
For anyone who doesn't know about Project Gutenberg:
[7:53 PM]
https://www.gutenberg.org/
    Project Gutenberg
    Project Gutenberg is a library of free eBooks.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 7:53 PM
Hmm, looking like I didn't get that, but I see I have Sir Gawain and the Green Knight/Pearl/Sir Orfeo as well as Smith of Wooten Major and Farmer Giles of Ham.

VardaYesterday at 7:53 PM
Anything no longer in copyright has a good chance of being there.
[7:54 PM]
New website for them

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 7:54 PM
Oh, I also got Dracula/Frankenstein/Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde as well as  the Oz Chronicles and Grimms Fairy Tales. I have alot of reading to do if I can ever get through with Washington Irving, heh.
[8:01 PM]
Any of you read anything by Washington Irving?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 8:01 PM
Does not ring a bell.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 8:02 PM
You might recognize him for one or both of two stories: Rip van Winkle and The Legend of Sleepy Hollow.

Pallando-ValarYesterday at 8:02 PM
Aiya
[8:02 PM]
This is going late.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 8:02 PM
Heya.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 8:02 PM
Oh, I've seen the movie and the tv show for the latter

VardaYesterday at 8:03 PM
Aiya Pallando : )
[8:03 PM]
This is just After-meeting, not the meeting itself. : )
[8:04 PM]
I think I read them an embarrassing number of years ago.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 8:04 PM
I'm reading a book that's a collection of his essays and short stories, including those two (bought it for Legend of Sleepy Hollow really), and his stories about visiting various places are very interesting from a historical point of view, but are kinda dry.
[8:08 PM]
Not quite as bad as reading Plato's Republic perhaps :}
[8:10 PM]
I did like Irving's description of his visit to an old library, I just can't remember what library he went to, heh.
[8:11 PM]
Really gave that feeling of going to a place that's been collecting books for hundreds of years.

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Flashgaming:
Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 8:24 PM
....And I just completed the hard badge. Right, time to actually give the game
[8:24 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/richwsnider/hello-worlds is it! A fun platformer where you play in multiple rooms/worlds at the same time, and moving around in one also moves you around in the other; which means obstacles block you in the other worlds as well.
    Kongregate
    Hello Worlds!
    Hello Worlds! is a puzzle platformer which will bend your minds! Experience what it truly means to be beside yourselves.
    Hello Worlds! is a *University...
[8:25 PM]
There's coins to collect, doors close and open new worlds in each level, a lot of stars to collect for completing levels and a few secret ones in certain levels, though you can see which levels have them.
[8:25 PM]
And if you die or mess up, press v to rewind time!

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Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 8:39 PM
Blizzard gaming!
[8:40 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
While the brawls are still up, I'm doing them.. didn't win much this week, but got to use some fun heroes I was familiar with, so good
[8:42 PM]
One new level gained, from 426 to 427, getting Azmodan to 7 through one of those brawls. A fun match though, actually got to 400 stacks of his trait, which is a rare thing
[8:43 PM]
Hearthstone:
Another level for the Demon Hunter who's now 28!
[8:44 PM]
Brawl this week was one with Unidentified Loot, that being items and potions with an "unidentified" property, meaning you don't know what extra bonus you'll get until you draw it.
[8:44 PM]
Felt rather like a normal match, though I was able to boost some minions with the stuff and get an easy win.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 8:53 PM
WoW:
[8:53 PM]
Raidwise, we got Mythic Mekkatorque down after a night of horrors with the mechanics.
[8:53 PM]
Only 2 bosses to go, and when we get the last, we'll have a shortcut, so we never have to do this one again.
[8:57 PM]
Another 4-mask Stormwind, giving me enough mementos for the mount, the Wicked Swarmer, which I immediately bought  Very nice Aqir thingy based on the bee mount, with the same special move.
[8:58 PM]
Weekly quest is pandaria timewalks, which I'm still doing for... mount and badges, I guess. Still, might as well.
[8:59 PM]
Other than that, progress made with the brawler's guild!
[9:00 PM]
In fact, I completed the questline (getting another mount, Bruce the crocolisk!), then ranked up to rank 8, poked the challenge card that unlocked at rank 8 because I was curious, and then proceeded to fight 10 random bosses.
[9:00 PM]
Got lucky with them, as they were easy fights, winning all 10, and getting the final brawler's guild achievement
[9:00 PM]
And then bought the tabard and the entire transmog ensemble, so now I'm done Brawling for this expansion!
[9:02 PM]
Next week I'll do the final 8.1.5 questline for the Feathers pet, which should be done pretty quickly, and then I can finally dive into Nazjatar/Mechagon again, and hopefully make use of the rep buff, possibly even unlocking flight before the prepatch
[9:05 PM]
In Total Annihilation, I beat that tough Krogoth Encounter mission, making good use of my massproducing airplane. I even hit the unit cap which is a high 400 for this particular mission. So I sent all my vehicles and planes on a sweep around the map, clearing the edges of 2 massive bases and pushing the enemy back to the center island where the Krogoth factories were located.
[9:06 PM]
Which was massively well defended, as the one landroute was completely covered in end-tier defensive structures, as well as the edges of the island itself.
[9:07 PM]
But I kept cranking out planes and planes and demolishing that pathway one bit at a time, slowly moving up to the island, and wrecking the entire base.
[9:08 PM]
Took out the factories and then focused down the last krogoths. I could've wiped out the entire base first but there were submarines in the water around the island and I didn't feel like hunting for those, so I just settled for the main objective
[9:08 PM]
I think the final killcount was 800 for me and 1000 for the AI... insane numbers!
[9:08 PM]
Rounded down, that is.
[9:09 PM]
And that's my report for the week

VardaYesterday at 9:09 PM
Thank you, Phar

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 9:09 PM
Oh, might as well conclude there
[9:09 PM]
that I'm now done with Total Annihilation.

VardaYesterday at 9:09 PM
Grats or consolations?

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 9:10 PM
I took a look at some Battle Tactics (the second expansion) levels, which is over 100 new levels of various difficulties, but apparently they're based on micromanagement rather than basebuilding and many are on a timer, and there's hardly any story to speak of.
[9:10 PM]
So it's not quite my thing.
[9:10 PM]
In fact, the expansion was heavily criticized for it

VardaYesterday at 9:11 PM
Thanks for the warning

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 9:12 PM
So.. grats I guess? I got what I wanted, and now a bit of a break as I explained earlier. Depending on how active the Shadowlands prepatch is or how much time I want to put into the expansion's launch, that break could be between 1 and 3 months or so.

VardaYesterday at 9:12 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 9:12 PM
And then we dive into the sequel,
Total Annihilation: Kingdoms!
[9:14 PM]
I say sequel, but while many of the gameplay systems are similar, the setting, style and races are completely different. In fact, while the Total Annihilation factions parallel each other in a Warcraft II manner, the factions in TA:K are even further apart than the factions in Starcraft and Warcraft III
[9:15 PM]
I actually prefer it as a game over the original TA, though it is generally somewhat easier to play. Or at least it was, when I was younger. I may be better at TA now, that may not be the case for TA:K
[9:16 PM]
Yeah, report addendum!
[9:16 PM]
Now I'm done

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VardaYesterday at 9:16 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 9:22 PM
namarie!

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:24 PM
Sleep well.

Ar-Pharazon-VYesterday at 9:24 PM
Thanks, you too!

IorethYesterday at 9:33 PM
So did you see that Blizzard is releasing a box version of WoW?
[9:34 PM]
And why are they keeping the game  down until 11 am on Tuesday? Are we finally getting the prepatch?

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:35 PM
Box version of WoW? I assume you mean the mini-wow thing?

IorethYesterday at 9:35 PM
It's in a box and only 5 people can play. I don't think there is a computer involved.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:36 PM
Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about, I just forget the actual name.

VardaYesterday at 9:36 PM
Namarie Phar
[9:36 PM]
Aiya Ioreth : )

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:36 PM
Aha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannier
    Pannier
    A pannier is a basket, bag, box, or similar container, carried in pairs either slung over the back of a beast of burden, or attached to the sides of a bicycle or motorcycle.
    The term derives from a Middle English borrowing of the Old French panier, meaning 'bread basket'.

[9:36 PM]
Er, wrong link.
[9:36 PM]
We discussed that earlier.
[9:37 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23460556/small-world-of-warcraft-now-available-for-pre-purchase
    World of Warcraft
    Small World of Warcraft now available for pre-purchase - WoW
    Blizzard Entertainment is pleased to announce their first collaboration with Days of Wonder by introducing Small World® of Warcraft®, a new board game combining the Small World® game mechanics with Blizzard’s celebrated     Warcraft® universe.

VardaYesterday at 9:37 PM
Might be our solution

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:37 PM
That's the one I wanted.

IorethYesterday at 9:37 PM
A bicycle is not a beast of burden (IMHO)
[9:37 PM]
Yup, looks like a box game

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:38 PM
It's a Terminator of Burden: It doesn't eat, it doesn't sleep, it doesn't feel pity, or remorse, and it absolutely will not stop until your legs can't pedal anymore :}

IorethYesterday at 9:41 PM
hubby has motorcycles... now THOSE are panniers

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:41 PM
Well, the pannier is just the bag that sits on it :}
[9:42 PM]
We were talking earlier about Elves riding bareback and still needing a place to carry their belongings.

IorethYesterday at 9:44 PM
Robes, look how much stuff Chinese could carry in those robes, and they even used backpacks

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:47 PM
To answer your second question about downtime, I haven't heard about it going live this Tuesday.
[9:47 PM]
I think they're supposed to be giving a specific date when they do anyway, since that's the cutoff for alot of stuff.

IorethYesterday at 9:47 PM
There is some difference between no saddles and no cover on the back at all. If you've ever ridden bareback much you know your pants and legs get horribly dusty and dirty. I have yet seen a movie portray that with accuracy.  Would the description have been "bareback" and meant "no saddle" but possibly a cloth/skin covering with room for a few things.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:50 PM
Now that Ioreth has me playing the description in my head, I think I'm going to have to go back and change a line in the RP.

IorethYesterday at 9:52 PM
brb. Poultry needs let in.

VardaYesterday at 9:52 PM
The Indians riding bareback sometimes did and sometimes didn't use the blanket.
[9:53 PM]
Type away : )

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:54 PM
"'I did not know you rode bare-back, Gandalf,' he said. 'You haven't a saddle or a bridle!'

VardaYesterday at 9:56 PM
Reason he's Gandalf the Grey before? Maybe used a blanket after going White?

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:56 PM
'I do not ride elf-fashion, except on Shadowfax,' said Gandalf. ' But Shadowfax will have no harness. You do not ride Shadowfax: he is willing to carry you--or not. If he is willing, that is enough. It is then his business to see that you remain on his back, unless you jump off into the air.'"(edited)

VardaYesterday at 9:56 PM
heh

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 9:57 PM
Thinking of it, I should flip back to The Ford of Bruinen as well.
[9:59 PM]
Hmmm...
[10:00 PM]
"'You shall ride my horse,' said Glorfindel. ' I will shorten the stirrups up to the saddle-skirts, and you must sit as tight as you can. But you need not fear: my horse will not let any rider fall that I command him to bear."
[10:03 PM]
It almost sounds like the Elf isn't riding elf-fashion, heh.
[10:04 PM]
"'(Frodo's) hand left the bridle and gripped the hilt of his sword, and with a red flash he drew it.'"
[10:07 PM]
Asfaloth has a bridle, Asfaloth has stirrups, Asfaloth seems to have a saddle.
[10:10 PM]
So I wonder who are these Elves who ride "Elf-fashion" :}

VardaYesterday at 10:12 PM
Glorfindel was getting old. : )
[10:12 PM]
Probably those wild silvans?
[10:13 PM]
Once dead, twice shy?

IorethYesterday at 10:13 PM
Probably depends on if they were traveling. They could also have a pack animal that came along as well
[10:14 PM]
No gears for just running about, some gears needed for traveling. Pack animals do not need to be lead or be tied together, not the content ones

VardaYesterday at 10:15 PM
Good point about the pack animals

IorethYesterday at 10:16 PM
They just come along. Some of the American natives would have several loose horses when they went long distances, and what they needed extra they could pack in a small bag which was slung across their body to keep it safe and out of the way.
[10:18 PM]
Anyone who travels like that will mention that you can get to smelling a bit trail warn. The natives would wash everything at once - clothes on body - and when they had the time spend some care doing hair and making sure they didn't smell too human.
[10:19 PM]
White men, on the other hand, the natives used to say they could smell a mile a way and they frightened the game animals

VardaYesterday at 10:20 PM
Karankawa Indians really smelled since they covered themselves with fish oil, but their skin was in great shape.

IorethYesterday at 10:20 PM
They didn't smell like people! If they were a horse nation their horses probably had smudges on their sides

VardaYesterday at 10:21 PM
Coastal group, not horse people, aye. And they didn't smell like people, right. Just the non-Indians could smell them coming : )
[10:22 PM]
To smell non-human, did they eat a lot of green stuff or smear some kind of plant on themselves, for the horse tribes?

IorethYesterday at 10:24 PM
That's the thing though, I think of Elves being well dressed and elegant. They are not going to keep that sharp appearance riding bareback. Either they need to remove or gird up the robes so they don't get horse dirt and smell on them, or have a quick change of clothes, or use a cover for their horse or a saddle (with undercover for best clean) What do they call undercover? Barding is it?

VardaYesterday at 10:24 PM
Barding, aye [Note: unless she's referring to a saddleblanket.]
[10:24 PM]
The elves in this rp include silvans that are used to running in the forest, not in city robes. But the ones from Rivendell might be more elegant.

IorethYesterday at 10:26 PM
But I'm not going to dress up my horse to go hunting, or quick trip to check something out, bareback it would be. Gandolf's horse ran free and only showed up when needed.. For that it would be necessary to be bareback. It wouldn't have worked at all to have the horse show up saddled and bridled!

VardaYesterday at 10:26 PM
Aye

IorethYesterday at 10:29 PM
I'm thinking that when I freshen up my novels I need to make sure my protagonist has a dirt smudge on her but when she has been riding bareback. I wonder if a dragon would do the same thing? Surely he wouldn't sweat like a horse and he doesn't have fur to collect dirt (and he probably doesn't roll in the dirt like a horse)  lol

VardaYesterday at 10:30 PM
Dragon stink? : )
[10:30 PM]
Lizards don't have much smell.

IorethYesterday at 10:31 PM
I can't imagine a dragon smelling anything except brimstone, assuming it was following the "dragonrider" type of lore. I can't remember what I wrote

VardaYesterday at 10:32 PM
Might have something to do with what they eat, like a lot of seafood or other?

IorethYesterday at 10:32 PM
I can't imagine anyone living on a diet of fish and not smelling someone like it.

VardaYesterday at 10:35 PM
What does your dragon eat?

IorethYesterday at 10:37 PM
Meat, carrion, small game, he'd probably eat a fish if he was someplace it wasn't too much a bother. When he's working for people his payroll is food.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 10:42 PM
I wonder if dragons would be a risk for salmonella, heh.

IorethYesterday at 10:43 PM
Why not, everything else is...
[10:44 PM]
Although my imaginary dragons have very wonderful healing abilities, so they probably wouldn't get salmonella...
[10:44 PM]
As I watch small rooster jump up onto his blanket for the night...
[10:48 PM]
I think I stirred things up enough. I'm going to get off!
[10:48 PM]
Namarie

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 10:53 PM
Sleep well.

VardaYesterday at 11:02 PM
but it was fun
[11:02 PM]
Namarie
[11:02 PM]
Sorry, got called away thought just for a sec

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 11:02 PM
No worries.

VardaYesterday at 11:03 PM
Just saw Auros go offline, heh. You doppelganger.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 11:05 PM
Just popped in for my Hobbit Present before timer hits zero. Forgot I hadn't done it for the day yet.

VardaYesterday at 11:17 PM
Hobbits, very generous.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 11:17 PM
Aye, hehe

VardaYesterday at 11:27 PM
Nighty night : )

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