Valar Guild

September 3, 2023 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Time
Discord:
Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern, which is Valar time and LotRO /servertime.]

Attending (and typed): (7)

    Discord: 
A
rien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Pallando, Sandalf, Treebeard/Fangorn, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    Ar-Pharazon is looking forward to the birth of his nephew.
    Sandalf's travel pictures.
    Pallando is ill.
    Ioreth is having trouble with cancer due to the delays in treatment by the medical community.
Web:

    Tolkien Site / Stories: "Diversion" by Eonwe-(Valar)
Gaming:
   
Lord of the Rings Online, World of Warcraft, Diablo 4, Diablo 3, Diablo Immortal, Hearthstone, more LotRO
    Games Site Mass Update (GSMU).
Tolkien:
    RP (role-playing story on our forum). New, scary post by Eonwe (Auros).
    Topic: What kept those of Valinor, especially the Valar, from coming to stop Morgoth in Middle-earth. What were they waiting for? (It was very specific.)
After-meeting:
    (non) Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games afterwards.

 
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Before-meeting

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 3:46 PM
@ Eonwe Valar That reminds me of a song thats from the 30 years war in the `17th century .. d ' artagnan made a very nice version of that
[3:46 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU0j-okRRr8
    YouTube
    dArtagnanVEVO
    dArtagnan, Zora Cock - My Love's in Germany (Offizielles Video) ft....

Varda — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Aiya

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Aiya!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Thanks Arien
Aiya Phar and Sandalf : )
Thank you for the game, Fangorn : )
[4:01 PM]
@Bounder @Guild-friend Valar Guild meeting-place time! Come on in, say hi, chat gaming and Tolkien, or lurk. ; )

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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:01 PM]

Membership:

[4:02 PM]
Good time to give news like if you are out from under a pile of moving boxes, etc : )
Aiya Pallando

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
I am very sick and won't be participating this week.  Hope everyone else is doing better than I am.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
Yikes!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
aiya and sad to hear it , Pallando

Varda — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
Please feel free to kick back and relax here, type if you feel up to it, slurp soup.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
Aiya all I've not Aiya'd!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
hope you recover soon

Varda — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Wish my minstrel could heal you in rl.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Oh, membership news of a sort.
I already told you before that I was going to be an uncle, now we know it's going to be a nephew

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Heya.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
I took my friend Susan to Golden, Colorado earlier today...the weather was beautiful, so we walked up Clear Creek a ways from Golden, to watch the inner tubers on Clear Creek. I even soaked my feet in the waters that make Coors Beer! Delightful. Now we are in the midst of a late afternoon thunderstorm!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/1148000442060648568/20230903_124257.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/1148000442417160292/20230903_130623.jpg

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Congrats Phar.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Grats on the upcoming nephew!
Aiya Eonwe : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
So if we get beer that smells like feet, we know who to blame.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Amazing photos! Must have been wonderful. : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/1148000687729414195/20230903_124509.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/1148000688245329960/20230903_124640.jpg

Varda — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
hah feet!

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Hello

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Aiya Treebeard!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Fangorn! Aiya!

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Those don't look like Hobbit feet, not enough hair 

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
aiya , Fangorrn

Varda — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Shaved?

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Some old white guy's feet.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Not even purple veiny! : )

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Aragorn's buddy
[4:07 PM]
Doesn't all beer taste like feet?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Elf feet?

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Ah, that's wine, smashed with feet

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Depends on the beer....Coors is pretty good...German style.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
Arien, I'm not going to sign up for YouTube, sorry. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gf39-AZ5bg
    YouTube
    jullingen
    The Fine Brew of the Green Dragon

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
Sorry I am late with this, but Congrats, Ar!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
Thanks :)

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
Inner Tubing = You Tubing?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Thanks Eonwe : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Inner tubing is looking within oneself for deep reflection....You tubing is looked at someone else's stuff...

Varda — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
I dunno. Had fun going down river on inner tubes. : )

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
:)

Varda — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
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Web!

[4:12 PM]
We have news, thanks to Eonwe. : )
He put up a new story!
"Diversion"
https://valarguild.org/tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/Diversion.htm

[4:13 PM]
Thank you for the fun, Eonwe. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
bows

Varda — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
Have to watch out when Auros is having fun.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
Will have to read it after our meeting! Looks super!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
Some people tend to read these during the meeting, hehe.
Onward to
Gaming!
Eonwe, would you like this finely crafted gravel?

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
I cannot do it just while visiting with all of you folks!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
Thanks : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
Sure.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKDvqAmSk4w
    YouTube
    Symphonic Metal
    D' ARTAGNAN feat. BLACKBRIAR - My Love's in Germany (Audio with Lyr...

[4:15 PM]
there is a none age restricted verszion

Varda — Yesterday at 4:16 PM
Thanks

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:18 PM

Gaming:
[4:19 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:20 PM]
Plenty to read this week with the release of Update 37: ---
https://www.lotro.com/update-notes/lotro-update-37-release-notes-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Update 37 Release Notes
    Here are the release notes for Update 37, released on Tuesday, August 29th, 2023.

[4:20 PM]
Developer Diary – Update 37 Guardian Changes ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-guardian-update-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Developer Diary – Update 37 Guardian Changes
    Read more about changes to the Guardian with the release of Update 37 here!

[4:20 PM]
Developer Diary – The Combe Forester Event ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-forester-crafting-event-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Developer Diary – The Combe Forester Event
    Read more about the new crafting event in a new Developer Diary!

[4:21 PM]
Introducing the River Hobbit! ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-river-hobbits-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Introducing the River Hobbit!
    To unlock River Hobbits, please login to a character and open the Account - Classes & Races - section of the store and select the bundle that is right for you!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:21 PM
The new Combe Forester's event will return Friday, September 15th and run until September 25th, after some corrections are made.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:21 PM
Also of note for VIPs: Free Daily Gold Hobbit Presents from September 8th through October 10th. ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-free-hobbit-gifts-vip-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Free Daily Gold Hobbit Presents For VIPs!
    VIP players will get a free roll on the Gold Hobbit Presents once a day from September 8th through October 10th!

[4:22 PM]

World of Warcraft:
[4:22 PM]
This week's bonus events: Dragonflight Dungeons.

The PvP Brawl: Gravity Lapse is going through Tuesday, September 5th.

The Darkmoon Faire is going through Saturday, September 9th.
[4:22 PM]
The Secrets of Azeroth event is now live. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23991795/unravel-the-secrets-of-azeroth
    World of Warcraft
    Unravel the Secrets of Azeroth - WoW
    Rumors are everywhere you go, but behind every rumor are secrets to be found—clues even—which lead throughout Azeroth’s varied and variegated landscapes to ancient artifacts and hidden treasures.

[4:22 PM]
Also going: the Kalimdor Cup. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23988134/updated-august-28-prep-your-dragons-and-mount-up-for-kalimdor-cup
    World of Warcraft
    [UPDATED AUGUST 28] Prep Your Dragons and Mount Up for Kalimdor Cup...
    Rediscover the skies of Kalimdor with a new dragonriding racing event!

[4:22 PM]
New month, new Trading Post items. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23989453/chaaaarge-into-septembers-trading-post
    World of Warcraft
    ChAAAArge into September’s Trading Post - WoW
    Embrace your piratical side or show off your class pride with this month’s Trading Post offerings. You’ll be able to sidle up to any adventure with this month’s signature item—the Crusty Crawler mount.

[4:23 PM]
Fury Incarnate will be live September 5th. Check out the patch notes.
---  https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23999602/fury-incarnate-arrives-on-september-5
--- https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23987385/dragonflight-fury-incarnate-content-update-notes
    World of Warcraft
    Fury Incarnate Arrives on September 5 - WoW
    Join forces in a new public event—Dreamsurge, earn Forsaken and Night Elf Heritage Armor, undertake Heroic difficulty in the Dawn of the Infinite mega-dungeon—and more.

    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight: Fury Incarnate Content Update Notes - WoW
    Dragonflight: Fury Incarnate arrives to World of Warcraft on September 5!

[4:23 PM]
Check out This Week in WoW. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23991797/this-week-in-wow-august-28-2023
    World of Warcraft
    This Week in WoW: August 28, 2023 - WoW
    Each week we’ll look ahead to what’s in store for World of Warcraft, share the latest news, and keep you in the know byte by byte.
    Don your thinking caps! Rumors and secrets abound, all leading to ancient artifacts and hidden treasures. The Secrets of Azeroth event begins this week.

[4:23 PM]
Check out Blues News. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23999604/blues-news-september-1-2023
    World of Warcraft
    Blues News: September 1, 2023 - WoW
    Stay up to date with World of Warcraft when you join us each week as we round up some of the latest top blue posts and discussions.

[4:24 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23973739/hotfixes-august-30-2023
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: August 30, 2023 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Dragonflight, Wrath of the Lich King Classic, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

Diablo 4:
[4:24 PM]
There's an XP and gold boost active through 10am PDT September 5th. ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23999063/mother-s-blessing-is-bestowed-on-sanctuary
    Mother’s Blessing is Bestowed on Sanctuary
    For a limited time, reap Gold and experience with increased vigor during the Mother’s Blessing Weekend.

Diablo 3:
[4:24 PM]
Season 28 is ending September 10th. ---
https://us.diablo3.blizzard.com/en-us/blog/23897180/season-28-rites-of-sanctuary-ending-soon-8-28-2023
Diablo III
Season 28 Rites of Sanctuary - Ending Soon
Season 28 Rites of Sanctuary goes live on February 24 at 5 p.m. PST/CET/KST. Unlock formidable powers in the Altar of Rites as you complete the Seasonal Journey.

[4:24 PM]
Diablo Immortal:
[4:25 PM]
Check out the latest bug fixes. ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23826549/diablo-immortal-bug-fixes-and-patch-notes-for-all-platforms
    Diablo Immortal Bug Fixes and Patch Notes for All Platforms
    We will continually update this blog with all bug fixes and patches the team implements for Diablo Immortal on all platforms.

[4:25 PM]

Hearthstone:
[4:25 PM]
Patch 27.2.2 is out. ---
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23987539/27-2-2-patch-notes
    27.2.2 Patch Notes
    Patch 27.2.2 brings balance changes to Standard, Battlegrounds, and Duels.

[4:25 PM]
The new game mode, Twist, is available. ---
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23987540/twist-is-now-live
    Twist is NOW LIVE!
    Hearthstone’s newest Mode, Twist, is now live for its first official season, featuring the new Wonders format!

[4:25 PM]
Last, but not least...
[4:27 PM]
It's September, which means it's time for the GSMU. If all goes as I expect it to, the email will go out this week. Once that's sent, responses can start coming in. This is your pre-email reminder the deadline to respond is September 30th.
[4:28 PM]
That's it from me.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Thank you, Eonwe. That is a lot of work!
[4:28 PM]
If any of you gamers don't get his letter, feel free to email him anyway, maybe use Discord.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
And make sure your e-mail is up-to-date with Varda.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:32 PM
Let me know if it is your outer face email or confidential. Is it postable to the Membership page.
[4:32 PM]
Also, should we simply drop emails from the Membership page?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:33 PM
I think it could be useful in contacting people for stuff, whether it's gaming or Tolkien knowledge or an art question...
[4:33 PM]
But if people don't want to have it displayed that's up to them.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Very few have said it's confidential. People often make a special one just for gaming stuff like this, not their work or even maybe family email.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:36 PM
We don't send out a whole lot of e-mails to the whole membership. The GSMU is about it, and when Varda conducts a sweep of inactive members you might get one so we can figure out if you're still around. If we don't have an e-mail, you don't show up in games, don't post to the forum, and don't respond on whatever messaging app we are using at the time (we've gone through three in 25 years, and that always causes some people problems along the way) then we really have no way to reach you.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
The inactive member sweep pretty well stopped, because it was so difficult to reach folks in all the scattered games.
[4:37 PM]
If someone says they want out, that's when they are swept now.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
Just out of curiousity, how many members does the Guild have?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
See Membership page. : )
[4:38 PM]
https://valarguild.org/community/members.htm
We used to operate at about 100.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:38 PM
Ah. Will do. I do know that my friends are VERY impressed when I tell them that the Valar Guild has members all over the world...sort of.

@Varda
If someone says they want out, that's when they are swept now.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:39 PM
Or if someone wants in and a person with the name they want has been inactive for a long period of time.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
The older member may receive a mail then, asking if they want to continue. Otherwise the name goes to the new person, and the old one can choose another if he/she returns.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
I guess that means we have a maximum membership amount

Varda — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
We no longer have a max or minimum, as long as there are one or two of us. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
Only so many names!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
Some names are very popular. Others, not so much.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
The official count of Full Members sits at 162 per last year's GSMU. That does not mean they are all active.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
Also, Maiar and Valar names are only after being Full Members and earning them.
Thank you, Eonwe. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:43 PM
Active typically sits between 1/5 and 1/3 of that. Responding to the GSMU counts as activity. So really, we make it as easy as possible to let us know you're still around.
[4:44 PM]
We can't quite yet read minds, so we have to rely on you letting us know through other means, heh.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:44 PM
https://valarguild.org/gaming/news/state-of-valar-gaming-2022

    The Valar Guild Games Site
    Valar Guild Games Site
[4:44 PM]
That's last year's.
[4:46 PM]

A bit more Gaming news for LotRO:
All characters had a stat squish, and other changes in stats, so characters need to look back over traits and LI builds to see if they are as desired.
After going live, problems were seen with mitigations that should be addressed in the next week's tweak update.
Guardians and Beornings have been revamped.
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-guardian-update-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Developer Diary – Update 37 Guardian Changes
    Read more about changes to the Guardian with the release of Update 37 here!

[4:47 PM]
Kinmates that showed up in our branches this past week:
Landroval server:
Eonwe
Fangorn
Nar
Varda

Crickhollow server:
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda

Treebeard server:
Varda
[4:48 PM]
Any other gaming news?
[4:50 PM]
Any other news or suggestions or requests? We are here every Sunday not just to chat, but to be available to help.
[4:51 PM]
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Tolkien!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:51 PM
Before I get into something, did any of you have any comments, questions, observations?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
Oh, someone posted Halloween to the forum.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
?
[4:54 PM]
Tad early. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
I know, right?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
heh

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:55 PM
But it's all spooky and scary, things in fog over there.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:55 PM
: )
[4:56 PM]
The forum? Seems pretty cut and dried. Type or don't type.  : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:56 PM
Was it a Halloween post? It did read rather scary

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:56 PM
Like Schödinger's cat....it is alive, or it is dead.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:57 PM
It wasn't seriously a Halloween post, but it did seem I could've held onto it for another month and it would've fit, heh. I didn't want you all to have to wait for a month though :}

Varda — Yesterday at 4:58 PM
Does Auros ever sleep? : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:58 PM
Now that I've had my fun:
https://valarguild.proboards.com/thread/1642/angmar-bound-chapter-where-shadows?page=6&scrollTo=7087 :}
    Angmar Bound, Chapter 2: Where Shadows Lie | Valar Guild
    Auros: It was late in the evening when Auros finally crossed his threshold, and sleep was still far from him. His first task was to return to his armory, and setting the bundle with the sword o

New post for those of you in the RP who haven't yet seen it :}

@Varda
Does Auros ever sleep? : )
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
(Salesman voice) That very question --- and more! --- are answered in the newest edition of the RP!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
RP?
Reading Public?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Ah yes, one of those "next episode" questions that gets answered in the first 3 seconds of the episode.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Short for Role-Play, our group story on the Forum.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Ah.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Yikes! That is a scary one. Houseless, I wonder?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Banshee, obviously.
[5:01 PM]
;)

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Both very good answers.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
Ok, trying not to talk about it too much. Spoilers?
Interested to see how that is going to fit into our tale.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
Maybe we can stuff it in the ring and let both spirits keep each other occupied.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
We started the RP role-play story, while waiting for Middle-earth Online to come online. It took years and then came out as Lord of the Rings Online. But we never stopped the story that was our take on Middle-earth Online.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
Maybe promises were made.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
And the promise may need kept in some fashion?

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
But I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
Hard to believe it precedes my WoW versions of my characters.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
Aye, Phar. It does. : )
We also played WoW while waiting for MeO. Took too long.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
I'm actually going to be heading out shortly as well. I have to run an errand to a place that closes in not too long, so I can only stay to chat a few more minutes.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Sandalf, that could indeed be interpreted in a ghostly fashion, that poem. : )
A quick chat topic then.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
It was sort of ghostly....Robert Frost was meditating on his own future as he stopped by the woods on a snowy evening...read it the first time in 5th Grade. He was a great poet.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
What kept those of Valinor, especially the Valar, from coming to stop evil in Middle-earth. What were they waiting for?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
In a word: humility?
Picard to admit he needed Q to save him from the Borg?

Varda — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
They had to stop Morgoth, but were waiting for something.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
They feared, rightfully, that their coming and the subsequent war would do great damage to Middle-Earth. Which is why they didn't like to go in before the Awakening, at least.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
I was not clear which evil, pardon. Morgoth.
[5:07 PM]
True, Phar. Yet they did come again.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
I think that you are on it, Eonwe. I think that after so many botched opportunities and events, the Valar finally realized that even the smallest acdtions have consequences unforeseen at the their initiation. They could only do so much, with messing more stuff up.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
yep, and most of the land sank for it

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
Aha, we're not just talking about the Noldor vs Morgoth then.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
This question refers to an actual happening that the Valar were waiting for, before they took Morgoth out of Arda.
[5:08 PM]
Once it happened, they came in their War of Wrath.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:09 PM
Tney had to find an emissary who spoke on behalf of both Elves AND Men at the same time...but what about the Dwarves?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
A unification of the many houses of elves and men, at strife with each other for much of the first War. Culminating in a half-elf couple. Someone able to represent all of them, find their way through all odds and ask for help directly.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
Eärendil was the perfect messenger...and he showed up with ELwing...another perfect messenger.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
They only needed Elves and Men. Dwarves were... adopted. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
I'm sorry, that's it for my time. Enjoy the discussion, the story, and the RP :} Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Thank you for the wonderful post and for the Diversion story!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Sleep well, Eonwe! Enjoy your end-of-day task/mission!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Namarie

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
i have to go as well irs going to be a short enough night anyway ^^ interesting post by the way eonwe
[5:12 PM]
Namarie

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Others had gone to Valinor asking for help for Men and Elves against Morgoth. But they did not speak for both, and not for his own sake.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Namarie, Arien! Have a good night!

Varda — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Also, Earendil and Elwing were returning a Silmaril.
[5:13 PM]
Namarie Eonwe : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Namarie Arien

Varda — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
This was the moment the Valar had waited for.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
True. That was a sign of good will, at least

Varda — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
They were unleashed.
[5:14 PM]
And with that, I too am going offline a bit. : )

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After-meeting!

the gavel comes running up, late
it had been looking at the Gaming Site

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
For a very important pad.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
hehe Phar : )
Feel free to continue!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
Enjoy dinner! I too shall have to go, as I am hosting a visitor from Good Old Lincoln, and I need to prepare some dinner. I shall return! (To quote a certain WWII General)

Varda — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
: )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:15 PM
Namarie, bis später!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:19 PM
Gotta say, was a bit worried about reaching level 51 in Diablo 4, since most mobs on tier 2 difficulty don't scale higher than 50 (which means I don't get better gear), but strongholds are always 3 levels higher, and they're showing as 53 on the map now. But just found out that the actual mobs don't scale above 52, no doubt because of the difficulty tier. So leveling actually gives a slight advantage

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:52 PM
Eep, nevermind. Some are 53. Good thing I don't have many strongholds remaining.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:04 PM
Aiya!
Eeeeep!
[8:05 PM]
So how does it feel to be an uncle-in-waiting?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:05 PM
Bit odd. Happy for my brother, of course. I wonder how I'll get along with the sprout.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:06 PM
Little humans are so much fun. It is just interesting to sit back and watch them. You will no doubt have ample opportunity to hold the little one on your lap...and you will be amazed how quickly you will bond with the child. Children are evolutionarily designed to be pleasing to adult humans....the ugly ones didn't survive!
[8:07 PM]
I speak as a father annd a grandfather!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:08 PM
Maybe. But I'm just not a kid person. When other people like to see baby pictures or watch toddlers or something, I just... don't care.
I'm sure it'll be different with a relative, but I won't get my hopes up too much.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:09 PM
That will change, I think...the real thing is different from a baby picture. They wriggle, they stare at you, they make noises and gurgles, and, of course, they poop.
And they smile at you, too,,,,and that makes it ALL worthwhile!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:10 PM
Hmm... see, all of the above... it just doesn't do much for me. I've visited friends with babies before.
Just makes me uncomfortable.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:10 PM
OK. Give it time.
[8:12 PM]
I am sorry. Mayhap that will change. I get teary-eyed remembering my first days as a young father. My children really did grow on me, in so many ways.
[8:14 PM]
Did you watch a movie over the "break?"

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:19 PM
No, been playing Diablo 4, conquering strongholds. In fact, my delay in answering that was because I was fighting possibly the toughest Stronghold boss of the night
Lot of movement, lot of monsters adding, lot of health on the boss.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:20 PM
Did you survive?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:20 PM
Yes, thankfully! I did not want to start that all over again

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:20 PM
Good!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:21 PM
That was my fourth stronghold of the night, now have 14 out of 15 completed. They take a while, but almost done

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:22 PM
My old friend Susan Laws is visiting from Lincoln. About 25 years ago, she was a student in one of my geology classes, and we began a friendship (only) at that point. We have stayed in contact over the years, and she is still a member of the Saturday night dining group that I put together about 7 years ago, and I think that I have mentioned to you before.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:22 PM
Indeed you have

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:22 PM
Sorry! I do not want to distract you from your Stronghold. Keep up the good work!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:23 PM
Nah, it's fine, the fighting is over
[8:24 PM]
Each stronghold is a large-ish base/camp/fortress with many enemies and a story to go through, as you investigate the place. Some things to set right, some ghosts to help out, a boss to defeat... and ultimately claim the stronghold for points and, in some cases, a new friendly camp.
They all have their own themes as well, and this one's possibly the most unique, surrounding a lighthouse all the way on the most northern shore of the continent. Just gotta light it up and we're done

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:25 PM
Good luck. Once you have accomplished your task, what then?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:25 PM
Beautiful view, too.
[8:26 PM]
Well, strongholds are a type of bonus objectives for each of the 5 regions in the game. There's also areas and dungeons to explore and quests to complete. With enough points from the bonus objectives in each region, you get a permanent bonus for all characters on your account. That's what I'm working on
After the strongholds are done I think I'll start focusing on optional quests.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:26 PM
Wnich game is this?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:27 PM
But there's about 30 in each region so that'll take a while
Diablo 4.
About 40, even.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:27 PM
Are all the games that Eonwe mentions, or you or Varda describe, Tolkien-related?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:28 PM
Hmm, some, kinda. World of Warcraft, the entire Warcraft franchise in general, takes heavy inspiration from Tolkien, with elves, dwarves, orcs etc.
But the Diablo series - though made by the same company - is more about heaven vs hell, angels and demons invading the world.
[8:29 PM]
It's also rather darker and more bloody in nature.
[8:31 PM]
But it's all medieval fantasy, in the end.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:31 PM
Ah. BTW, my local library offers a service called "Hoopla," where you can download movies (for three days) and books or comics for 21 days. You can view//read them on your laptop or phone. I just watched an excellent movie entitled  "The Story of J.R.R. Tolkien - Master of the Rings." They interview all sorts of various and sundry people, and include lots of rarely seen pictures of Tolkien, etc. It was well worth warching. Have you seen it?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:32 PM
I have not. But it might be worth looking into. It'd have to be on the desktop computer though

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:32 PM
That would work. I will look into the movie a little bit online, and send you some additional information. How is your job search going?
[8:34 PM]
J.R.R. Tolkien: Master of the Rings - The Definitive Guide to the World of the Rings

    Video
    2004
    Not Rated
    1h 20m
[8:34 PM]
The life of "The Lord of the Rings" universe creator J.R.R. Tolkien, and how his life and experience in World War I informed his epic storytelling.

    Director
        Robert DiNapoli
    Writer
        Robert DiNapoli
    Stars
        J.R.R. Tolkien Greg Hildebrandt Tim Hildebrandt

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:35 PM
No news on the job front.
Alright, should be enough to find it

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:36 PM
The one review said that the movie did not present too much info that Tolkien fans would not already know, but it is still worth a look. I agree with that assessment. Some of the images from WWI are really neat.
Or as neat as one can get, dealing with life and death in the trenches.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:36 PM
hmhm

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:37 PM
Are you familiar with the three great WWI poems that my Mother read to me as a child? She was an English teacher, of course.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:38 PM
I don't think so.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:40 PM
"I have a rendevous with Death, When SPring comes back with rustling shade, and I to my pledged word am true, I shall not fail that rendevous." From the poem by the young American Alan Seeger (actually related to the folk singer Pete Seeger) who did, in fact, die only several weeks after writing that poem. The line above always stirs my emotions in lots of ways. I hope that I keep my rendevous with equal equanimity.

One of the other poems is "In Flanders Fields."
[8:41 PM]
The third poem is "The Solider," by Rupert Brooke. He too died in the war after writing his poem.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:42 PM
Hard to not get some emotional inspiration while you're in such a situation.
[8:44 PM]
Right, will leave the 15th stronghold for next time. Time for personal gaming report

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:44 PM
I am reading!

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Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:44 PM
For (non)flashgaming, Eonwe wasn't the only one with an early Halloween installment
[8:46 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/bontegames/boo is a simple puzzle game from one of my favorite flashgame makers, akin to his Factory Balls series. But in this case, you have Halloween pumpkins instead, to paint in specific ways, using various costume pieces.
    Kongregate
    Boo!
    Boo! A spooky puzzle game for you!
    Inspired by my Factory Balls games and with a touch of halloween.
    In each level the goal is to make a pumpkin just like th...

[8:47 PM]
Not too difficult, but fun!
So enjoy
[8:50 PM]
Blizzard gaming:

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:52 PM
Diablo 4:
Lots of working on Renown, mainly through Strongholds  Got Hawezar to renown level 2, unlocking my final health potion slot, so now I can carry a maximum of 9 potions. Definitely helps
[8:54 PM]
Instead of working on getting each region to 3, though, I decided to focus on each type of objective instead, starting with the Strongholds, since I'd quite like to get them done before moving to difficulty tier 3. So after completing the strongholds in Hawezar, I also finished the ones in Fractured Peaks and Scosglen. Just one to go in the Dry Steppes, and all 15 will be done!
[8:56 PM]
After that I'll grab the last few remaining waypoints, and then try out the "Capstone dungeon" which will allow me to move up the difficulty. While I'm not thrilled about extra difficulty, you do require tier 3 to get monsters - and thus, levels - over 50 up to 100, and you can loot some more powerful types of gear. So I hope it'll be worth it  But most importantly, you need to unlock tier 3 to access the last 2 levels of renown in each region, for more permanent bonuses!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:57 PM
Wow! I played "Boo..." The music is great, i can play the piece on my piano...Danse Macabre, by Camille Saint-Saens.
He even throws in the Dies Irae!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:57 PM
I have been getting some experience, though, as it's not heavily slowed down yet. Got to level 51.25, getting a few more paragon points, which I can use for paragon bonuses, such as more stats.
Hah, I should've known you'd recognize the music

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:58 PM
He he.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:59 PM
Oh, and I got the Barreling title prefix from getting a stronghold in each region, so now my title for the druid is Barreling Bear. I love it  Beware the barreling bear, he'll barrel right through you!
[9:02 PM]

Hearthstone:
Level 57 on the reward track. It's slowing down a bit again.
New quest event coming in 2 days, the Battle of Ahn'Qiraj, related to the new Caverns of Time wild set.
[9:04 PM]
I have opened a bunch more packs, down to 230 remaining.. and got 2 new legendaries, Cannonmaster Smythe, and the warlock Titan, Sargeras himself! He looks to be quite a powerful card, but at 9 mana cost, it'll be a while before you can get him played
[9:06 PM]
Tavern brawl is The Void Singularity: At the end of each turn, all your minions become crushed into the form of one void entity, with all attack and health stats added up. I did quite well with a deathrattle deck, since the minions die when that happens, and you get the effects for free, including some powerful summons, which themselves will then join the singularity at the end of next turn. Can become powerful quite fast!

WoW:
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:07 PM
As expected, raiding's slowing down, though people being on vacation or doing other summery stuff doesn't help  But that's ok, we can really do just fine with 1 night a week right now.
[9:09 PM]
I did get all my raidgear maxed out using aspects' crests from the megadungeon, so now all my guardian and feral gear is at 441. And if you have an item of a type maxed out, subsequent ones of that type no longer require crests. So when I got a better guardian ring from the vault this week, it was quickly maxed out as well. In fact, I don't think I'll be needing any aspects' crests going forward!

Varda — Yesterday at 9:09 PM
Aiya

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:09 PM
Maybe for headpiece, since I'm using a crafted one right now... not sure.
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 9:09 PM
Aiya Varda! I am here too!

Varda — Yesterday at 9:10 PM
Pardon my interrupting Phar, just saying hi. Fangorn and I are about to hit Carn Dum again.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:11 PM
Weekly quest is mythic dungeons, which goes pretty well at this gearlevel. I'm keeping my fourth one for tuesday in case people still want the megadungeon then, but I'll be okay with just going to Uldaman instead.
[9:12 PM]
Got a few transmog items too! Finished up the draenic seed gathering in the garrison, getting my last garden tool transmog, the Garden Hoe. So no need to collect more seeds from here on
And I bought the corsage pack from the store, applying the wrist corsages to an alt or 2. Though my main goal there was the 200 trading post tender which should come in handy in september, according to my calculations.

Treebeard — Yesterday at 9:12 PM
Hello  :),  meeting is still going?  Neato.

Varda — Yesterday at 9:13 PM
:  )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:13 PM
Aiyata :)
[9:13 PM]
And finally, alting!

Treebeard — Yesterday at 9:13 PM
I think Tinwetari and Fangbark have a date killing pixels in LOTRO...

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:14 PM
On my mage, resided over the duel between Nadjia and Matyas, helping the former win when the latter cheated, and completed that side questline. Next up she'll be heading back to the town of Darkhaven for some smaller quests there.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 9:14 PM
Aiya Treebeard Fangorn etc etc

Treebeard — Yesterday at 9:16 PM
Have fun.  We shall be saving a make believe world from make believe monsters in a Tolkienesque world.... fun?  Cyall alter maybe.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:16 PM
After that, I got my blood elf paladin to level 10, through questing in Eversong Woods. Set her up in her protection spec, and got her a shiny outfit, as transmog and the armory link are unlocked at level 10. So here she is at
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/calclypsia
    World of Warcraft
    Calclypsia - Character - WoW
    Calclypsia (Argent Dawn) ❮Innovation❯ - 10 Blood Elf Protection Paladin, 2 ilvl

[9:17 PM]
Darkskinned and framed in gold, I'd say the eclipse theme is working out well so far
[9:20 PM]
And with her all set, I embarked on my sixth alt in Project Horde! Created my goblin fury warrior, Calsjona. Inspired by Red Sonja and Xena, I liked the idea of a feminine goblin girl hacking and slashing her way through her enemies.
[9:21 PM]
Currently still level 1, though I did explore as much of the island of Kezan as was available, since I won't be able to go back here after the starting quests. Ran into a few invisible walls, blocking off certain sections and buildings and pathways, but oh well.
[9:22 PM]
Next time, perhaps she'll do some leveling

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 9:23 PM
Got to do down for a moment to get the dishwasher going...we are heading up to my time-share in the mountains tomorrow for the end of Labor Day Weekend...the real end of summer. "That's all, folks!"

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:24 PM
And that's my report for the week! Might not be as much alting next week, since I'd like to get more Diablo 4 stuff out of the way first. But we'll see.
Alright, namarie

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Oops. Good timing! NAmarie and have a superb week ahead! Sei gesund!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:25 PM
You too!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:40 PM
Namarie from me too

Varda — Yesterday at 9:42 PM
Namarie

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