Valar Guild

October 2, 2022 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]

Attending (and typed): (6)
    Discord:
Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Pallando, Sandalf13, Tulkas, Varda (presiding)
    Gimli-(V) came into the Discord voice chat and chatted for a bit.
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    Sandalf's birthday is today!
Web:

    Tolkien Site/Stories:
        Three new stories by Eonwe-(Valar)
    Games Site Mass Update being coded now. Please email Eonwe or message on Discord.
    Anniversary Page started. Send your additions to Varda to be placed on the page.
Gaming:
   
Eve Online, Lord of the Rings Online, World of Warcraft, Overwatch 2, Hearthstone
Tolkien:
    Topic: Sauron was not alone in thinking the Valar had abandoned the people of Middle-earth. Was there reason to believe so? Was it true?
After-meeting:
    Chatting continues.
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.

    Chatting continues.
 
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Before-meeting

Varda — 10/02/2022
Chat marathon for the 25th Anniversary begins today right here! Huzzah!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
"Howdy"!

Varda — 10/02/2022
hehe
[4:00 PM]
Aiya Phar : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Aiya

Varda — 10/02/2022
@Bounder The Valar Guild chat marathon for our 25th Anniversary kicks off...now! Woot!
[4:01 PM]
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:01 PM]

Membership:

[4:02 PM]
Anyone typing in meeting_place (and maybe Harbor) from now into the next meeting is considered a helper in the chat marathon and placed on the Anniversary page!
[4:02 PM]
So sing out at least once whilst lurking. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
The road goes ever on and on ♪

Varda — 10/02/2022
Yay! He sang!
[4:04 PM]
Eonwe's been chatting with me while we worked on the website. : )  He's working on the Games report for us now.
[4:04 PM]
Any membership news from you, Phar?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Don't think so!

Varda — 10/02/2022
heh
[4:05 PM]
And Eonwe is ready for us. : )
But first!

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Web News:

[4:05 PM]
Another thing Eonwe has ready for us: three stories!
For the anniversary:

Cormamarth, Cormamaranwe
[4:06 PM]
which means "Ring of Doom (or Fate), Ring of Destiny"
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/Cormamarth_Cormamaranwe.htm
    Cormamarth, Cormamaranwe by Eonwë-(Valar)
    Ring of Doom, Ring of Destiny.
[4:07 PM]
The next two go in the Narn I Auros (Tales of Auros).

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I like to think of it more as a chronicle (waits to see if ucwutididthar).

Varda — 10/02/2022
Ok, Chronicle. Yay for translations!
[4:08 PM]
"Aráto"
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/Arato.htm

"Turnabout Is..."
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/TurnaboutIs.htm

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Aiya All1

Varda — 10/02/2022
How would you like to translate "Aráto"?
[4:09 PM]
Aiya Sandalf : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Champion :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Aiya!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Heya Sandalf.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Today is my birthday, and I am thankful that I am healthy and can enjoy a meeting such as we are having right now, with some excellent scholars and fellow-fans of Tolkien.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Happy birthday

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Thanks!

Varda — 10/02/2022
Huzzah! Happy Birthday, Sandalf!
[4:11 PM]
May you get to have cake or the fun munchie of your choice!

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
I hope so, and thanks! My Saturday evening dining group is having a birthday party next Saturday for me and one other person who has a birthday during October, who is also in our group.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Sounds fun!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Happy Birthday.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Thank you all.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
(alright, last timewalk of this reset is over, I can participate more now!)

Varda — 10/02/2022
Congratulations, Phar. : )
[4:16 PM]
Sandalf, I hope to get those last corrections done for you, so as to be able to present your essay on Denethor as Macbeth on your birthday. : )
[4:17 PM]
Any other web news? Links?

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
oops missed it blush]
[4:17 PM]
aiya all

Varda — 10/02/2022
Aiya Arien!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Aiya Arien

Varda — 10/02/2022
We're just barely started, no worries. : )
[4:17 PM]
Glad you could come!

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
landed also in the wrong room got a golden nudge tho ~

Varda — 10/02/2022
We are lighting all the candles on Sandalf's cake and need our Sunshine to finish them off!

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
happy birthday, sandalf
[4:18 PM]
cake .. hmmm

Varda — 10/02/2022
Phar's a good helper! Thanks!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
bows

Varda — 10/02/2022
Any other membership news? Arien maybe? : )
[4:20 PM]
Alatar is hoping to be able to drop by the channel sometime. So that's big news. : )  He's been supplying our website space for lo these many years.

Pallando-Valar — 10/02/2022
Aiya

Varda — 10/02/2022
Aiya Pallando!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Aiya Pallando!

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
Nice  and aiya Pallando

Varda — 10/02/2022
So there's another Blue Wizard!

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Aiya Arien and Pallando!

Pallando-Valar — 10/02/2022
We're through the group stage of the feeders and on to the semis on Saturday. [Note: Eve Online]

Varda — 10/02/2022
How's the fighting in the starlanes going!

Pallando-Valar — 10/02/2022
2 matches from making it in to the tournament.

Varda — 10/02/2022
hah, fantastic!

Pallando-Valar — 10/02/2022
We have a decent shot. Not great. But decent.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Grats, and good luck

Varda — 10/02/2022
Go go!

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
nice one good luck

Varda — 10/02/2022
Ok, that is a good transition to
[4:25 PM]

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Gaming!

[4:25 PM]
Take it away, Eonwe. : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Thanks.

Varda — 10/02/2022
we all wish the very best of timing and inspiration for Pallando and crew!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Indeed. Good luck Pallando.
[4:27 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:28 PM]
Update 33.2.1 came out this week. ---
https://www.lotro.com/update-notes/lotro-update-33-2-1-release-notes-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Update 33.2.1 Release Notes
    Here are the Release Notes for Update 33.2.1,  released on Tuesday, September 27, 2022.

[4:28 PM]
World of Warcraft:

Varda — 10/02/2022
(LotRO Treasure Hunt too)

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
This week's Bonus Event: Wrath of the Lich King Timewalking.

The PvP Brawl: Gravity Lapse runs through Tuesday, October 04th.

The Darkmoon Faire is running through October 8th.
[4:29 PM]
Wrath of the Lich King Classic is out. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23850854/shatter-the-ice-wrath-of-the-lich-king-classic%E2%84%A2-now-live
    World of Warcraft
    Shatter the Ice: Wrath of the Lich King Classic™ Now Live! - WoW
    Explore bone-chilling lands, storm Icecrown Citadel, and halt the Lich King’s baleful efforts once more in this rerelease of the 2008 expansion.

[4:29 PM]
Dragonflight will be launching November 28th. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23859631/mark-your-calendars-the-journey-to-the-dragon-isles-begins-november-28
    World of Warcraft
    Mark Your Calendars: The Journey to the Dragon Isles Begins Novembe...
    Gather your friends and allies and make ready to soar into new adventures when the World of Warcraft: Dragonflight expansion goes live.

[4:29 PM]
Blizzard has put out the schedule for Dragonflight Season 1. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23841486/dragonflight-season-1-and-raid-schedule
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight Season 1 and Raid Schedule - WoW
    With the release of Dragonflight ahead, we wanted to provide more information on what this means for Season 1 and the schedule for the Vault of the Incarnates raid dungeon.

[4:29 PM]
Beginning with the October 4th weekly reset through to the Pre-expansion patch, the Winds of Wisdom experience buff will be active. If you've been meaning to get some characters levelled, now is the time. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23859628/the-winds-of-wisdom-50-experience-buff-returns
    World of Warcraft
    The Winds of Wisdom 50% Experience Buff Returns! - WoW
    It’s a great time to return to World of Warcraft, level a new character, or prepare for the Dragonflight expansion as the Winds of Wisdom buff blows into Azeroth once more.

[4:30 PM]
Check out the latest hotfixes. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23800887/hotfixes-september-30-2022
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: September 30, 2022 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

[4:30 PM]
Overwatch:
Don't forget Overwatch 2 is going live October 4th. ---
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23852690/overwatch-2-ready-check-prepare-for-launch/
    Overwatch
    Overwatch 2 Ready Check: Prepare for Launch!
    Everything you need to know to play Overwatch 2 when it launches on October 4!

[4:30 PM]
Hearthstone:
Patch 24.4 is out. ---
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23852687/24-4-patch-notes
    24.4 Patch Notes
    Patch 24.4 Brings the new Mini-Set, Maw and Disorder to the Tavern, as well as a returning Battlegrounds Hero, Mercenaries changes, and more!

[4:31 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jsfAsE_DDo
    YouTube
    Hiraeth88
    Blind Guardian - 22 Final Chapter (Thus Ends...)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Smol mention:

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
^In other words, that's it for my gaming news.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Thanks Eonwe. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
An email I got from Blizzard informed me that being able to get a mount in WoW retail by doing the starting experience for a death knight in Wrath Classic, will not be going on pretty much forever as earlier expected.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Did they say why the change?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Instead, the offer seems to be ending on 27th of november, so if you want the mount, get to it!
[4:34 PM]
Well, I don't think they ever confirmed it either way, but this was the first time I saw a date.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Yep. Good mention, Phar.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Thank you!
[4:35 PM]
And Eonwe, I finally got it. Can't believe I'm so slow! Chronicleofnarniauros.
hahaahh

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
:}

Varda — 10/02/2022
Narnia leaps out there when typed. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
...Oh, wow. I did not get that

Varda — 10/02/2022
I could not get it until typed it in one word. : )
[4:36 PM]
Nice play!
[4:37 PM]
And some quick gaming news for
[4:37 PM]
Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:37 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online players in kin this past week:
Landroval:
Arien
Dis
Elwing
Eonwe (added to transcript)
Fangorn
Morwe
Nar
Varda

Crickhollow:
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda

Shadowfax:
Varda

Treebeard:
Varda
[4:38 PM]
And a bit of membership news: Eowyn and Faramir (and our grandson) are back in Arizona after visiting his old home and family in London and Ireland, with a side stop in Italy. May they get over jet lag soon!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I think I saw Eonwë on Landroval too.
[4:39 PM]
I can't be sure. He plays on Auros, doesn't he?

Varda — 10/02/2022
man, I don't know how I missed that guy.
[4:39 PM]
He does!
[4:39 PM]
Have to add him into the transcript. : )

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
maybe he was gone with the wind ~

Varda — 10/02/2022
: )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
:}

Varda — 10/02/2022
We do have our 25th Anniversary for the Valar Guild coming up Oct 4, this Tuesday.
[4:41 PM]
The chat marathon starts today and continues through the next meeting.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Happy Anniversary! What is a chat marathon?

Varda — 10/02/2022
LotRO will be having the ride and fireworks starting at Bree at noon and 5 pm Eastern /servertime.
[4:42 PM]
Feel free to take screenshots in any game for your festivities and for the theme of Rings of Power.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
oh and on side note .. frali needs 6 man dungeon Urugarth on Landroval so if anyone feels like thumping orcs and angmarim cultists he or she is very welcome .. I am prepared to sacrifice part of the night in two weeks time either on Sunday night or Monday night

Varda — 10/02/2022
or real life

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
thats level 50

Varda — 10/02/2022
That for your class quest?

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
aye

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
The Chat Marathon:

Varda — 10/02/2022
Don't forget to check the skirmish camp. You may be able to barter for some of it. But more fun questing.
[4:43 PM]
Thanks Eonwe : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Back in the days of Battle.net, AIM, and old chat programs like that, when a chatroom was empty, it was closed out. The chat log was not kept.
[4:45 PM]
As I recall, it was Pharazon who suggested one year that we try to keep the channel open all week, with members staying the AIM channel as long as we could to say hi/bye, greet others, chat, and overall just keep the chat from being lost to the Void.
[4:47 PM]
Even though Discord doesn't wipe out our previous conversations when the room is empty, we still have the Chat Marathon spanning the Anniversary week as a way to let people stop in, say hi, and reminisce during the celebration.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Sounds like me!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
It starts on the Sunday before the Anniversary and ends at the Anniversary meeting.

Varda — 10/02/2022
or meeting after the Anniversary. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
But yes, a lack of risk does make this more comfortable :)

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Will there be a meeting on Oct 4th, the anniversary
[4:48 PM]
?

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
By Anniversary Meeting, I of course mean the Sunday on or after the Anniversary :}

Varda — 10/02/2022
The chat marathon will be continuing all week including Oct 4 but not formally.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
the room will be open .. call it a week long meeting if you like with voluntary and necessary participation

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
We don't have an official meeting on October 4th if it doesn't fall on a Sunday, no.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Does someone have to be active the chat room in order to keep it open?

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
and necessary breaks as for eating, working and sleeping
[4:50 PM]
i meant :)

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
No, but it doesn't hurt to say hi and let us know you stopped in.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
I shall ensure that I stop in several times, then....even at "odd" hours!

Varda — 10/02/2022
Discord is not like our old AIM chat room. It stays.
[4:50 PM]
Yay!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Good, now we just need someone to take the even hours and we've got it covered.

Varda — 10/02/2022
We can have a running conversation across the whole week. Leave Tolkien Moments, questions, and just say hi!
[4:51 PM]
heh

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
(That was a joke.)

Varda — 10/02/2022
I got that one! About time, hey? : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
:}

Varda — 10/02/2022
and oddly even.
[4:52 PM]
We can also say Happy Anniversary on our forum
[4:52 PM]
in the Shoutbox or on a thread we'll be setting up or both.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Happy Anniversary on our forum. Yep, we can say it.

Varda — 10/02/2022
He did. /facepalm

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Sorry, that was a bad joke.

Varda — 10/02/2022
yay bad jokes!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Ah, I can tell that it's a party, Eonwe's been drinking? :)

Varda — 10/02/2022
Nope. He's just really tired. : )
[4:54 PM]
Anyway, we can also try to fill in goodies on the Anniversary page as is already happening.
If you see anything that makes you think of a ring of some kind in your games, take a screenshot!
[4:55 PM]
If it turns out well, email it to Varda and let's put it on the Anniversary page. : )
Also, if you celebrate as with fireworks, special effects, or a big cheer, that works too!

http://valarguild.org/varda/guild/NewsArchives/extras/2022/anniv25th.htm
    25th Anniversary of the Valar Guild
    Year 2022, 25th Anniversary celebration of the Valar Guild Tolkien fan club and gamers' group.
[4:56 PM]
Be sure Eonwe has your gaming info for the Games Site and his report on the State of Valar Gaming.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Oops, I should've mentioned that.

Varda — 10/02/2022
You have backup. ; )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
GSMU data will be put up in the next couple of days. I expect it and the SOVG to be done by the Anniversary. Just been quite a week at work.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Thank you for continuing to do this with so much else going on!
[4:58 PM]
That you also wrote those stories is amazing. : )
slices more of Sandalf's birthday cake and passes it around
cake only ends when we don't need it anymore!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Currently working on my artpiece. Making an MS Paint dragon is more difficult than expected.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Ohh, you're getting to work on it! Thank you. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Yep, during this meeting, in fact

Varda — 10/02/2022
Program too limited for what you want?
[4:59 PM]
Yay!
Multi-tasking is Us!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
No, not really, I just figured it'd be simpler in MS Paint style

Varda — 10/02/2022
Before we run out of the actual meeting time, maybe we should mention a chat topic. I have one for you to play with:
[5:00 PM]

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Tolkien:

[5:00 PM]
Sauron was not alone in thinking the Valar had abandoned the people of Middle-earth. Was there reason to believe so? Was it true?
[5:01 PM]
What else were you considering using as your art program? (While everyone's chewing on the topic.)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Nah, still Paint. But I meant compared to a more... realistic dragon.

Varda — 10/02/2022
So. We don't think the Valar are around. Because we don't see giant shiny people backhanding Sauron when he's misbehaving!
[5:02 PM]
The Valar should instantly solve all our problems in a splashy, satisfying way.
They didn't? They must not exist!

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
well there was the small matter of free will you know

Varda — 10/02/2022
They freely will the Valar to solve their problems for them. ; )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Well, a god who doesn't do anything might as well not be there at all, scientifically speaking

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Sauron didn't deny they existed, he denied Eru existed. The Valar are supposed to be the ones stopping Pharazon from claiming immortality, after all.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Very true. In Numenor at least, the influence of the Valar was still present, even if perceived in a negative way.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Sauron knew they all existed. He just thought they abandoned Middle-earth, leaving him free to roam.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
They did send the Istari....and I think that Tolkien's conception of the Valar in the Third Age was evolving towards his own religious predilections....something like God helps those who help themselves.

Varda — 10/02/2022
But that is not big and splashy! Sauron is still walking around after being annoying!
[5:05 PM]
Advisors? Hey, where's that giant backhand slap?

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
the Valar gave them free will to decide to do with their lives and their bellieves all right but they also made clear that they had to bear the consequences of their actions as actual children do

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Perhaps the Valar were afraid of doing more damage to the land if they intervened directly.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Well, if the god did something, chronologically speaking, that was necessary to be done, then the god has to exist for the thing to be done. Makes no guarantees about future action.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Now that is an interesting thought...

Varda — 10/02/2022
The Valar did indeed try to teach the Free people to take care of their own problems. No splashy.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
If the mortal races were to defeat Sauron themselves... there would have been more to save in the end.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
That's pretty much it, Phar. They fought two wars against Morgoth, and both times alot of real estate was lost.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Sauron was saying the Valar "abandoned". He didn't say they didn't exist.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
*Two clarify, two wars the Elves were privy to. We're not counting all the battles before the Elves awoke.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Remind me, at what time were the Istari sent? [Note: around 1050 when a shadow falls on the Greenwood.]

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Perhaps  also by the Third Age the Valar realized that they would never know the outcome of Eru's great music, and somethings had better be left to Eru...and not them.

Varda — 10/02/2022
But of course when talking to others, Sauron claimed Eru didn't exist but as a Valarin fiction, that really the great one was Morgoth.
[5:07 PM]
But the point is, the Valar did not abandon the people.
What were they doing?

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Aye, the Valar did not abandon Middle-Earth.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Because before the arrival of the Istari, it would indeed have seemed that the Valar weren't doing anything about Sauron and his oppression of Middle-Earth.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
I mean there was war , there were illnesses and famine and wild animals that caused sorrow and pain.#

Varda — 10/02/2022
They were just some old men that came over on a boat.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Obeying  the rules of quantum mechanics....action at a distance.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Was Sauron aware of what they were?

Varda — 10/02/2022
And somehow, hobbits kept getting that One Ring.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
Sauron might have used that to make people believe the valar abandoned them

Varda — 10/02/2022
Deagol, Smeagol, Bilbo, Frodo, Sam

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
I believe that Sauron did know who the Istari were...

Varda — 10/02/2022
Go ahead and make your point. What would make him suspect?

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
As I recall, according to some versions the Blue Wizards arrived in the Second Age.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
The fact that it was the Hobbits that kept getting the the One Ring is some proof of the Valar's activities in Middle-earth.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Hmm, quick search tells me that the Istari did not arrive until the Third Age. But yes, there would have been more versions.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Saruman was not keeping himself secret, just for one.
[5:10 PM]
There were other versions, aye.
The Sil version tells of all 5 arriving together.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Oh hey, got my copy of UT right here for once. Let me pop it open to the section about the Blue Wizards.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Gandalf commented that Bilbo was meant to have it.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
"meant" by whom?
[5:11 PM]
If it's fate, that would point more towards Eru himself.
Slight manipulations to get it into his hands might be Valar influence.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Gandalf didn't say, but we know who. : )  The Valar acted to carry out the theme of Eru.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Sauron probably remembered them from their days together in the First Age, before the overthrow of the Two Trees. Sauron was a Maia, like the Istari, and I don't think that he completely lost his memory of the old days as a result of his turn to evil.

Varda — 10/02/2022
All of the Istari knew who they were, but not the whole memory. They also lost a large part of their power. This was to make them stick to being Advisors rather than commanders.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Yes...but I think that was a special order for the Istari alone. Sauron was not subject to that rule as he had "left" (in more ways than one) the Valar a long time beforehand...

Varda — 10/02/2022
Yes, Istari only.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Again: limiting the power of the Istari was the way the Valar wanted to help Middle-earth: not by direct, flashy action (as discussed above), but by gentle, self-directed movement towards "doing the right thing" without fanfare. This would also limit the possibility of further physical damage to Middle-earth.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Sauron already lost a fair bit of his power into the One Ring, because it was tough to control all those rings.
[5:15 PM]
Aye, Sandalf.
[5:16 PM]
Train a man to fish. : )

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
While once telling me a remembrance of his time in Europe during WWII, my Father once told me that the heart is infinite in its capacity to love, but limited in it ability to hate.

Varda — 10/02/2022
That's an amazing comment.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Sauron was a hater...of all things "good." In the end, his hatred was tooo much for even him to carry.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Wanted everything under his control. Every.bit. of.it.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
So as soon as the Istari arrived and Sauron became aware of them, he knew the Valar had not forsaken Middle-Earth entirely, though he must've thought they didn't care that much if those 5 were all they sent.

Varda — 10/02/2022
and in such limited ability.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Indeed.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
OK, the exerpt I'm thinking of has to be buried somewhere in HoME, and that's a bit more digging than I can do right now.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Yet haven't we discussed in previous gatherings how some of the physical effectds during the War of the Ring were probably initiated by the Valar? The Wind that broke up Sauron's cloud of gloom around Minas Tirith, for example...just coincidence? Or did Manwe cause that breeze to blow?

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Certainly not coincidence.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
That is the same wind, of course, that propelled Aragorn's fleet of Corsair ships up the Anduin, against the current....and that Windalfa noted and reported to Theoden...

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Even without specific knowledge of Manwë, the reading makes it fairly clear that wind is deliberate.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Aye! Good spotting. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
I know what it's like to have Manwe manipulate the wind... my men did an awful lot of rowing in that time!

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
You betcha, Digger!

Varda — 10/02/2022
hehe

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
My suggestion was to just have him send giant eagles to pick up the ships and turn them around so you'd row back to Numenor, but for some reason Manwë didn't go for that. (edited)

Varda — 10/02/2022
: )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Tulkas wanted to pull the plug out of the drain and watch you circle the tub for a while.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
We'd get so dizzy.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Foamy sea.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Speaking of the Fall of Numenor, one of the most poignant and easily overlooked scenes in the entire Legendarium is how Elendil set up the one Palantir near the Gray Havens, so that he could look with straight sight back to Tol Eressea, and see the outlines of Valinor...I wonder if Aaragorn every attempted the same, before that Palantir was carried back to Valinor. He certainly earned the right to do so and he certainly derserved the reward of doing so as well.
[5:26 PM]
Like so many of us, Elendil was grieivng for what was...and never would be again.

Varda — 10/02/2022
I'm not sure his could do that, just the one at the Grey Havens. But maybe?

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I wouldn't consider it completely outside the realm of possibility. Might've had to learn how to use a Palantir and that seems like the equivalent of a bike on training wheels if I've ever heard one.

Varda — 10/02/2022
It's a possibility
[5:28 PM]
Gandalf could help train
if he stuck around. He was going to visit Bombadil

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Well by then Aragorn had already used a Palantir. I'm thinking more childhood/early adulthood.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
He would have had to travel to the Gray Havens in order to do so, but in the two years or so before the Palantir left Middle-earth forefer, he might have had the opportunity. And yes...I suspect that he would have stopped in the Old Forest as well.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Maybe not childhood I suppose. If he's being hidden in Imladris I doubt uncle Elrond is going to take him down to the beach for summer vacation.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
But the we get back to the issue of who knew that Estel was, in fact, being hidden in Imladris....Cirdan was certainly one of "The Wise."

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Anyone on the Council.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
So a summer trip to the Gray Havens with Uncle Elrond and little Estel (maybe 10?) is not impossible to consider...

Varda — 10/02/2022
Saruman seemed not to know, but the others probably did. Maybe they assumed he knew.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Saruman wouldn't be so far out of the loop on that matter unless it were through his own lack of interest.

Varda — 10/02/2022
He was bent on finding the Ring and seemed to be missing some things. But he was checking out the Shire that Gandalf found so interesting. (pipeweed)

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Something just occurred to me....that makes my above (half-serious) comment worthy of consideration: Just where and when did Aragorn learn his seacraft? Certainly NOT in Imladris...where the largest body of water was probably a lake....maybe he did, in fact, get to the Gray Havens once-upon-a-time.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
He would know about the North Kingdom, he would know that the remnant of the Arnorians became wanderers, he would likely be versed in any prophecies.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Hmm. While it may have been educational in his youth to visit Elostirion and gaze across the sea to be more aware of the Dunedain legacy, in later times I'm thinking Aragorn probably had higher priorities than gazing longingly to the West.

Varda — 10/02/2022
He may have even gone to Dol Amroth?
[5:34 PM]
That would be inside his future kingdom of Gondor, so he might have needed to check it out for education.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
And yes, we know Aragorn had a past in service of fighting for Gondor. That could have involved seacraft.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Maybe after the War of the Ring was over, and he had won his prize (Arwen), he could make a visit to the Elostirion (Thanks Ar, the name slipped me for a moment).
[5:35 PM]
That is my point...in order to successfully complete his mission against the Corsairs, he had to know how to handle ships at sea beforehand...not something you can pick up on the fly (as I know from personal experience).

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
He didn't come westward towards the Shire for years after the Three Rings sailed West.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Heh, no problem, there's a browser game I'm playing where I named all my planets/bases after locations on Numenor and Numenorean legacy in Middle-Earth. I see Elostirion every day :)

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
I wish I could

Varda — 10/02/2022
Gaming can help. : )
[5:36 PM]
LotRO is loaded with great references. : )

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
I will get there one day, I promise.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Who needs to "play" LotRO when you can run around and gawk at the scenery?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Hey, exploration is a valid RPG playstyle

Varda — 10/02/2022
Practice moving with your numberpad or WASD and mouse. Eventually it'll make sense.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I have characters who level up by picking radishes and making beef jerky, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
I remember the story of a pandaren who leveled by picking herbs and mining ore on the starting island, hitting max level before even choosing his faction.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Farming works. Some love to spend all their time in the Shire, farming and chatting. : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
DoubleAgent, aye Phar.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Yes  They even put him in Hearthstone as a card!
[5:40 PM]
https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/Double_Agent
    Hearthstone Wiki
    Double Agent
    Double Agent is a common rogue minion card, from the Fractured in Alterac Valley set.
    == How to get ==
    == Sounds ==
    Play
    ▶️ Trust no one... not even me.
    Attack
    ▶️ Double-crossed!
    Death
    ▶️ <death sound>
    == Achievements ==
    == Gallery ==
    == Patch changes ==

Varda — 10/02/2022
heh : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Heh, he's Alliance eh?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Look closer and also read the flavor text. Tabard under tabard under tabard

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Aha, I was looking for the Horde sign somewhere on him. Got it now.

Varda — 10/02/2022
The Stack of Tabards : )
[5:42 PM]
We passed the hour
by 42 minutes of fun : )
[5:43 PM]
the gavels jump from behind the many tabards wearing different colors
together they tap the hammerpad

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Indeed...it was a fast-paced, fun-filled meeting...

Varda — 10/02/2022
tappppp
[5:43 PM]
tap-dancing

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Ok everyone, this week's homework is to read every story on the Stories Site. There will be a test on chapters 13-52 and Varda will be grading with the red pen this time. Remember.

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Varda — 10/02/2022

After-meeting.

[5:43 PM]
We now begin the next part of our Chat Marathon!
[5:43 PM]
Yay!
picks up the red pen

Tulkas — 10/02/2022
Aiya ...Congratulations on 25 years!!!

Varda — 10/02/2022
Tulkas? Aiya!

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Aiya Tiulkas!

Varda — 10/02/2022
Congrats to you too! Woot!
[5:44 PM]
LotRO Raider : )

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Heya Tulkas :}

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
tulkas :d

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Hmm. My artpiece is starting to remind me of the Passoa logo. Not what I intended.

Varda — 10/02/2022
So very good to see you in the chat marathon again!

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
:)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Aiya Tulkas!

Varda — 10/02/2022
hehe Phar. Good luck

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
It has been a long time indeed :)

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Happy Anniversary mellon. Good to see you here.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Correction. A mix of Passoa and Bacardi.

Varda — 10/02/2022
with Italian tomato sauce.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
Happy anniversary

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
25 years... quite a milestone indeed.

Tulkas — 10/02/2022
the glory days of Diablo ,,,,,,My Masters Sword of Haste..,,,,I was brought out of the darkness of public gaming into the safe haven of Valar Guild by Galadriel-(V) '

Varda — 10/02/2022
One quarter century.
[5:48 PM]
Kings Sword of Haste! I had one!
[5:49 PM]
Ahh, Galadriel stayed with us a long time!

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
What happened to her, may I ask?

Varda — 10/02/2022
Just no more communication. All seemed well, but then gone.
[5:50 PM]
That's the internet for you.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Sadly, yes.

Tulkas — 10/02/2022
i owned a KSOH but found it was duped, so according to the rules of Valar I ttrashed it and  looked for a legit one...never did find but the Masters Sword of Haste was a close second

Varda — 10/02/2022
The duped ones would disappear on you. Weird thing.
[5:51 PM]
It was tough to play legit.
Stuff we'd think was, turned out not to be and would poof.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
You guys are making me want to dig out my old D1 ME mod files. I so hate that I lost my 43 Dunadan.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
I needs bid you all a fond Namarie....I need to work on the healing of Frodo, and if I don't get to the Telegraph Mills soon, I probably won't...now that I know what is expected of me, I will stop in to the Valar Guild Chat Room more frequently this next week....Watch out! Sei gesund to all, and Namarie!!!

Varda — 10/02/2022
Namarie!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Have a good night Sandalf.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Namarie!

Varda — 10/02/2022
Good luck with your writing. : )

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Muchas gracias!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Heal Frodo up good

Varda — 10/02/2022
: )
[5:53 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/guild/NewsArchives/extras/2022/anniv25th.htm
25th Anniversary of the Valar Guild
Year 2022, 25th Anniversary celebration of the Valar
Guild Tolkien fan club and gamers' group.
[5:53 PM]
Trying to keep up with the stuff you guys are sending

Tulkas — 10/02/2022
Ive got a t3 Hiddenhoard coming up shortly,,,just wanted to pop in and say hi..although I am not active I still boast of my "first" kin

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I think I got my replacement Dunadan up to 42-ish. Bah, I think I'm going to be digging through some old files this week.
[5:54 PM]
We're glad you did stop in Tulkas :}

Varda — 10/02/2022
Thank you! And you are still one of us, Tulkas.
[5:55 PM]
You even have kinned characters. : )
[5:55 PM]
You never quit.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Like the one you're talking in this channel on.... :}

Varda — 10/02/2022
: )
[5:55 PM]
Feel free to send something to the Anniversary if you like.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Quite a character in this kin (enough alliteration?)

Varda — 10/02/2022
Good luck with the HH!
[5:56 PM]
Sound type
[5:56 PM]
aye

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I think we hit all the characters that make a "k" sound in that one.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Looks like!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
So I have this "friend"... (waits for everyone to get it)
[6:04 PM]
Got a look at the Dragonflight beta. I'm not sure I'm all that impressed by the way they're doing to UI customization. It's not bad, but it's not LotRO, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
I'll probably try to stick to something close to the old default, anyway. Though I might switch an actionbar here or there to keep an eye on certain cooldowns.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
It feels like it's missing something to me. Might just be me.
[6:06 PM]
When I was messing around with it, I didn't make many changes either. It's not like it opens up a whole new world to you or anything.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
It's not supposed to be that different. Just much, much easier to edit.
[6:07 PM]
They said they didn't want to shake it up too much after all the years we've been used to it.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
It's nice to shift stuff around, and it lets you scale stuff individually, but it just "feels" like it's lacking something that I can't put my finger on.
[6:08 PM]
Aye Phar.
[6:09 PM]
I should probably find some time to get my Hunter to 60 so I can get that fancy hunter stuff that I can barely remember anymore, hehehe.
[6:09 PM]
Some sort of outfit and a Dark Ranger appearance if I remember.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Heh. I had been planning on leveling mine this year alongside the other 3 alts I did manage to level, to be able to get the mail appearances from anniversary. But with expansion being this close and still me having to do some other alting and questing in SL, I don't think it'll happen  Then again, 30 isn't that far?

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Now's the time to do it with the EXP buff.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
And yeah, the Dark Ranger stuff...
[6:10 PM]
Hmm, good point, Eonwe. I might do it anyway during the buff.
[6:10 PM]
I think you just need 30 for the anniversary loot, at least that worked for my mage last year.
[6:11 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/caliona is at 11 now...
World of Warcraft
Caliona - Character - WoW
Caliona (Argent Dawn) ❮The High Guard❯ - 11 Night Elf Beast Mastery Hunter, 7 ilvl


Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I gave up on shadowlands in,.. Zereth Mortis I think it's called? Whatever the Consortium place off the.... arg can't remember the name of the Jailer zone now.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Zereth Mortis is the 9.2 zone, yea.
[6:12 PM]
But my main's still only halfway through Korthia... as I still want to do the covenant campaigns on alts first!
[6:13 PM]
Combined with the zone leveling, I've been counting down story chapters. 95 total among all chars before Zereth
[6:13 PM]
95 still to go, that is.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
What's the zone that has the elite that you have to sit through 20-ish stacks of buildup twice before he becomes rare elite?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
...I don't know that one, so probably Zereth or Korthia

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Attached to the Maw. There, remembered the Jailer Zone.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Could be Korthia or Desmotaeron.
[6:15 PM]
Korthia's the WQ place, Desmo's got a few more rares and the raid entrance.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I'm going to say Korthia.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Technically, Desmo was always there, but you couldn't enter it until Korthia came.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
That sounds right because the other one doesn't ring any bell.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Well, to make it simpler.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Morwe-(V) is in LotRO Landroval right now.  : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Main Maw west, other Maw part east. Korthia south of east bit, Desmo north of east bit.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
98% sure it's Korthia now. Zereth Mortis I think was the area after that.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
it is time to rest for me friends

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Korthia was when they launched the maw invasions where the factions were teaming up.
[6:18 PM]
Sleep well Arien.

Arien  Valar — 10/02/2022
Namarie all

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Right, Eonwe
[6:18 PM]
Namarie, Arien!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I've never been so dis-invested in WoW.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Dis got her LotRO lifetime account back! (edited)

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Awesome!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Grats Dis!
[6:20 PM]
There, artpiece done - about half an hour of tweaking minor details later - linked to Varda

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
:}

Varda — 10/02/2022
Thank you

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Blizzard really lost me with this expansion, and I'm not sure Dragonflight is going to get me back.
[6:22 PM]
That it doesn't even look like I'm going to get a soundtrack with the collector's edition is rather disappointing too.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Myes... though we do get an artbook, so that's nice.
[6:23 PM]
And those badges of the various flights.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I suppose.

Varda — 10/02/2022
Image on our Anniversary page now : )
[6:39 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/guild/NewsArchives/extras/2022/anniv25th.htm
25th Anniversary of the Valar Guild
Year 2022, 25th Anniversary celebration of the Valar
Guild Tolkien fan club and gamers' group.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Thanks, Varda, looking good up there

Varda — 10/02/2022
Thanks to you! Dressed up the page. : )

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Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Now, personal gaming report!
[7:22 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, rather than giving one of this week's badges, none of which are new either, I'll go back to a flashgame which crossed my mind earlier this week, after which I poked it in Flashpoint to be sure it saved well, but it's also still playable on Kongregate using their new flash alternative, Ruffle.
[7:23 PM]
Which, by the way, still seems to have trouble awarding badges, so I doubt any of such games will make it back into the badge of the day lists.
[7:25 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/edmund/meat-boy is a platformer, quite tough, too. You play Meat Boy, who needs to find his girlfriend Bandaid Girl in each level.
    Kongregate
    Meat Boy
    -Meat boy is Hard!
    -You can skip levels by pressing esc and exiting to the level menu.
    -Unlock extra characters by collecting band aids.
    -You only need to beat...

[7:26 PM]
The jumping seems quite loose, and there's quite a bit of momentum going on here. It makes navigating the levels, especially wall jumping, quite tricky to time. And just wait until you get scrolling levels, razorwheels and turrets firing at you...
[7:26 PM]
But practice usually does the trick
[7:27 PM]
You can also collect the bandages spread throughout the level to unlock other characters to play with, though getting them can be risky!
[7:31 PM]
Also, apparently, sequels have come out on Steam and other platforms that are quite popular, called Super Meat Boy. But the flashgame is a good start!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Blizzard gaming:
[8:51 PM]
Hearthstone:
86 on the reward track. Still moving forward steadily.
[8:53 PM]
Bought myself the Maw and Disorder miniset for 2000 gold! Lots of court of law based cards, gotta love a lot of the flavor text references

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Hallo Ar! I guess it is just me and you. I just finished up a glorious three hours of work on "The Healing of Frodo." I am about 80% there, and hope to finish tomorrow. I want to get this to Varda as my gift to the 25h Anniversary of the Valar Guild. I am enjoying your gaming report, as always.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Brawl is Clockwork Card Dealer, where every card you'll draw on a turn will have that turn's mana-cost. Got myself a hunter deck from the web with a lot of powerful minions for each mana cost, and while I had to replace a few for not having them, I made sure to stay to the curve. Seemed to work well!
[8:55 PM]
Aiya Sandalf  Yeah, I should've gone to bed already, but from the Meat Boy game onwards I was sucked into a series of tangentially related youtube videos  So only continuing now!
[8:55 PM]
And good luck with your Anniversary gift! Sounds like it's taking up a lot more time than mine did, though I did enjoy making it

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
So make sure you get plenty of good rest tonight (or should I say, "this morning,"?). You need your rest and recuperation.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Will do! Almost done here.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Super! I shall not keep you further. Take care and rest! Sei gesund! Ich hoffe, dass du eine wunderbare Woche hast!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Namarie
[8:57 PM]
And same to you!
[8:58 PM]
WoW:
[8:59 PM]
Raiding continuing! We got Sylvanas down on Fated normal last tuesday, getting a few more people their slimy saber mount, and took down the Jailer on thursday through the shortcut, getting it for one more person. All interested people in the group seem to have one now.
[9:00 PM]
Tuesday we'll be taking a group picture with the mount! But one person suggested also using the slime kitty pet for that, Jiggles, which I didn't have yet. It's a renown reward for the Maldraxxus covenant, and my main's Night Fae, while my rogue, who is destined for Maldraxxus, isn't quite there yet.
[9:02 PM]
So instead I spent some anima and gold to switch covenants on my druid to Maldraxxus, getting the instant 60 renown, as well as being able to buy the cat pet for 1500 anima. It set me back a bit on my final anima grind for Night Fae, but at this point I'm still above 17k so I didn't miss much.
[9:04 PM]
But yes, with that 60 instant renown I got, apart from the Jiggles pet, more rewards in my mailbox: A Tiny Vial of Slime for a new Pepe variation, which Jiggles himself seems to make use of sometimes; the Initiate Necromantle Vestments appearance set; the Armored Plaguerot Tauralus ground mount; the Maldraxxian Corpsefly flying mount, which should look with the rogue when he gets there; and the Locust Swarm legendary power for the druid, working with the druid covenant ability for Maldraxxus.
[9:05 PM]
After that I switched back to Night Fae, so I can't actually use the mounts anymore, but Jiggles is still available for tuesday!
[9:06 PM]
In any case, with my anima grind almost over for Night Fae items, I stopped doing the Mission Table and the Queen's Conservatory. I wasn't getting any more weapon appearances from there anyway, and just the reagents don't seem worth continuing the rut. So that saves me some time to spend on alts, for example.
[9:07 PM]
Still doing the weekly quests though! Timewalks still fun, even though the reward was a piece of gear I already had
[9:10 PM]
With the expansion announced for the end of November, and the pre-patch expected for the end of October, there isn't a lot of time for the alting/korthia/zereth mortis business, but I'll be continuing that throughout the prepatch and anniversary events, most likely. With less to do on the main, and giving it a bit more priority over other activities in the evening, I should still get pretty far before I'm overwhelmed with new stuff.

Sandalf13 — 10/02/2022
Namarie!

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
Sleep well Phar.
[9:23 PM]
I'm suddenly reminded of something a wise mistypist once said: "It's not the size of the man in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the man."

Ar-Pharazon-V — 10/02/2022
Oh that certainly applies to my gnome rogue

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
:}
[9:25 PM]
I still need to put something in the RP I think.

Varda — 10/02/2022
For a mistype, that sounds right.

Eonwë Valar — 10/02/2022
I was thinking a typo, like "abck" instead of saying he's "back" :}
[9:53 PM]
You might recognize that typo :} Or I might be remembering the wrong guy :}

[Note: the chat marathon continues on through the next meeting, but will not be transcribed further here for mercy on us all.]

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