October 18, 2020 Sunday Meeting
5:00
P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord:
Valar Guild/meeting_place
Back to News
Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for
Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular
smiley]
Attending (and
spoke): (8)
Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe,
Ioreth (After-meeting), Irmo, Pallando, Shelob, Varda (presiding)
(Gimli said hi from Bnet)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Phar is learning Japanese, so everyone started
playing with it.
Web:
Story: "Vignette on the Vingilot" by Elwing-(V)
Gaming:
General reports:
Tolkien:
Topic from Shelob-(V): Shelob
After-meeting:
Flashgaming Reviews by
Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting
Eonwë Valar10/13/2020
Heya all.
[1:07 AM]
Got confirmation on one of my WoW Collector's Editions shipping, but
not the other. Funny thing is it's the one not directly from
Blizzard.
Eonwë Valar10/13/2020
Just for fun: Everyone playing WoW. It is October 13th, and the
pre-expansion patchis expected to drop today. How far did you get
your Heart of Azeroth before the pre-expansion patch drops?(edited)
[2:11 AM]
I got mine to lvl 94, and I'm about 25k from lvl 95. If I thought
I'd make it before the prepatch I'd give it a try.(edited)
Eonwë Valar10/13/2020
Almost time to see how badly my character was nerfed by the patch,
hehe.
Eonwë Valar10/13/2020
Oh teh noes, my talents have been reset :}
Eonwë Valar10/13/2020
Well, if Conseration still breaks stealth, I've got my favorite PvP
flag-guarding tool back :}
[6:25 PM]
I'm going to have to rebalance my skill bars
October 14, 2020
Eonwë Valar10/14/2020
I hope the sluggishness I'm feeling in my Paladin's response time is
due to the latency and not the changes, because he's definitely
feeling like he took a hit in his power.
October 16, 2020
Eonwë Valar10/16/2020
My Void Elf Hunter has gained 16 levels since Tuesday. I suppose
that's pretty good with little rested exp and considering the new
cap is 50.
[1:28 AM]
(Puts him at 26)
October 18, 2020
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Oops, Hallow's End began when I wasn't looking.
Varda10/18/2020
Aiya!
[4:00 PM]
Time does slip up on one, aye. : )
[4:01 PM]
@Bounder Huzzah! Meeting time! Come say hi, give your news, chat,
get together for gaming! Or just lurk.... : )
Arien Valar10/18/2020
Aiya all
Varda10/18/2020
Aiya Sunshine!
Irmo10/18/2020
Good evening indeed!
Varda10/18/2020
Aiya to the Lord of the Land of Dreams!
[4:03 PM]
Eonwe was just chatting so I know he's around here.
[4:03 PM]
phone, pardon a sec
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Aiya!
Varda10/18/2020
Aiya Phar : )
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Heya all.
Varda10/18/2020
One of Fangorn's brothers checking in on us, so sweet.
[4:05 PM]
Aiya Eonwe : )
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Just befriending my next turtle on my Hunter, hehe.
Varda10/18/2020
Nice : )
[4:06 PM]
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Membership:
[4:06 PM]
That was already two pieces of Membership news. Any other we'd like
to bring up? Valarite sightings maybe?
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I can mention that I just started learning Japanese through
Duolingo... though i've only got a few numbers so far.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Gimli said hi in our bnet group.
Varda10/18/2020
O fantastic : )
[4:08 PM]
heh, that could be a reply to both of you. : )
[4:09 PM]
Gimli loves all things Japanese. You'll have to grab a chance to
chat with him. : )
Irmo10/18/2020
Wakarimasen Phar, gomen nasai
Varda10/18/2020
Konbanwa : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
That sounds familiar from anima but I don't know what it means yet
[4:10 PM]
*anime
Varda10/18/2020
Hah, anime is one reason to learn Japanese.
Irmo10/18/2020
^I dont understand, sorry
Varda10/18/2020
Mine? "Good evening"
Irmo10/18/2020
(and that is actually from the book Shogun
Varda10/18/2020
Konnichi wa would be for daytime
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Kiseki no Umi :}
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
konnichi wa was one I did remember
Irmo10/18/2020
Hai, wakarimasu!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
The name of one of the opeings for one of my old favorite anime,
hehe.
Irmo10/18/2020
(^yep, did understand that)
Varda10/18/2020
Kiseki... "Sea of Miracles" There's a song out with that title, I
think.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Yes, there is :}
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Frankly, I've had 3 lessons so far of a few minutes. I've learned 1,
2, 3, 4, 6 and 7.
[4:14 PM]
No idea what happened to 5.
Varda10/18/2020
The hai one you used, is "Yes, I understand"
[4:14 PM]
hehe Phar
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
When I think of numbers in Japanese, I get flashes of the Sesame
Street movie "Big Bird in Japan", lol. One of the songs is about
Ichi, Ni, San, hehe.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
ichi, ni, san, yon, ..., roku, nana!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Darn childhood going and sticking with us.
Varda10/18/2020
Itsutsu for "five"?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
3 syllables? That might explain why they skipped it.
Varda10/18/2020
Actually it must be another system
Irmo10/18/2020
(my regards to Merry btw Varda, if you please)
Varda10/18/2020
Go is five in that other one.
[4:17 PM]
I'm looking it up now, this might help:
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
But they also teach it with a specific alphabet along the side,
which makes it a bit more complicated to learn.
Varda10/18/2020
comparison:
[4:18 PM]
https://www.fluentin3months.com/japanese-numbers/
Fluent in 3 months - Language Hacking and Travel
Tips
How to Count to 100 in Japanese
Ichi, ni, san...
[4:18 PM]
Ok, we went a bit afield there, but it was fun.
[4:18 PM]
Explains why we had different numbers going.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
"let's see, chi was the one that looked like a 5.."
Varda10/18/2020
heheh
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
It's as easy as Minya, Tatya, Nelya... :}
Varda10/18/2020
It does!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
ni is stonehenge on its side...
Varda10/18/2020
That's what we ought to be using. : )
[4:19 PM]
or a bite. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
n is the curly L, yo, looks like a sideways dog...
[4:20 PM]
sa's giving me some trouble.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
(Technically that's ordinals though, First, Second, Third :})
Varda10/18/2020
Ok, we're definitely wandering but we can say we're educational!
[4:22 PM]
On to
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Web:
[4:22 PM]
We have a new story from Elwing. : )
[4:23 PM]
It's on the News and the Anniversary page as well as Stories, so you
can find it later if you like, and of course here:
[4:24 PM]
"A Vignette on the Vingolot"
[4:24 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Elwing/stories/AVignetteontheVingilot.htm
A Vignette on the Vingilot
Silmarillion fan-fiction. A sailor
overhears Eärendil talking with Elwing.
Varda10/18/2020
Quite short. Feel free to enjoy!
Arien Valar10/18/2020
bit too late but just readling up and Irmo .. that is where i
learned a bit too
Varda10/18/2020
It was definitely intended for us, as people who know the books, but
for humor. : )
[4:25 PM]
Hey, you came when you could and that's much appreciated.
Arien Valar10/18/2020
and .. *i understand " in Japanese is "Wakalimas"
[4:26 PM]
hai is yes that is right
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Nani?
[4:27 PM]
Yes, there's a few I've picked up here and there, but I'm taking it
from the basics with this course...
[4:28 PM]
Actually, I should be able to spell "nani" now.
Varda10/18/2020
But you can have fun looking up stuff on your own time and shock
them with cool new stuff, or just know it better.
[4:28 PM]
Are you having to draw the words and numbers too?
Arien Valar10/18/2020
and haha i love that vignette
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
since I've got both "ni" (2) and "nana" (7) now. Nope, it's an
online course. You see the symbol and have to identify it. Some
questions have a bunch of symbols and a bunch of sounds and you have
to link them.
[4:30 PM]
actually I'd probably remember better if I wrote them donw.
[4:30 PM]
*down.
Irmo10/18/2020
Nice Arien, bu make that wakarimas The Japs hate l's just as
much as the Chins hate r;s
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
So it's basically the same sound but one nation leans one way while
the other leans the other?
Irmo10/18/2020
exactly
Varda10/18/2020
Listening to little children, English speakers, the r becomes a w.
Must be something tough about it.
[4:33 PM]
JRRT might get a kick out of our talking languages. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
yarrrr
Varda10/18/2020
Did anyone take a quick peek at Elwing's story? Seriously short.
Irmo10/18/2020
he would!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
So basically to the Japanese, y'all and yarrr sounds the same.
Varda10/18/2020
heh
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
But yes, I just read it It's fun!
Varda10/18/2020
So a child wanting very much to talk like a pirate would really work
on the r's!
[4:34 PM]
Cool. : )
[4:35 PM]
Thanks. She's one of those that would actually read a review from
our transcript. : )
[4:35 PM]
Ready for...
[4:35 PM]
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Gaming!
[4:35 PM]
One of our favorite sports. : )
[4:35 PM]
Eve Online:
[4:36 PM]
Oct. 15 patch notes for version 18.10.
[4:36 PM]
https://www.eveonline.com/article/qi4t9e/patch-notes-for-version-18-10
EVE Online
Patch Notes for Version 18.10 | EVE Online
Patch Notes for 16 October are now available!
[4:36 PM]
Do any of you have a game with news that tends to get neglected?
Guild Wars, other?
[4:37 PM]
If your favorite game is well-represented here in our News, yay!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
stares at nonfunctional GW shortcut I wonder where those
discs went...
Varda10/18/2020
Uh oh
[4:38 PM]
World of Warcraft:
[4:38 PM]
As of Tuesday, the pre-expansion patch is out with the system
changes.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Suddenly, level 50.
Varda10/18/2020
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23529212/the-shadowlands-pre-expansion-patch-is-now-live
World of Warcraft
The Shadowlands Pre-Expansion Patch is Now Live -
WoW
The Shadowlands pre-expansion introduces a
variety of changes and updates from character customization to the
new starting experience.
[4:38 PM]
Grats, Phar. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Down from 120
Varda10/18/2020
This last week's bonus event: Pet Battles.
[4:39 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Cooking Impossible begins the 13th and runs through
Tuesday, October 20th.
[4:40 PM]
A new cinematic is out: Dark Abduction.
[4:40 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23545413/watch-shadowlands-dark-abduction
World of Warcraft
Watch Shadowlands: Dark Abduction - WoW
The shattering of the veil between the
Shadowlands and Azeroth was only the beginning. Dark deeds are afoot
and Sylvanas is making her next move.
[4:40 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Also summarized as "yoink".
Varda10/18/2020
heh
[4:40 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23277654/hotfixes-october-16-2020
World of Warcraft
Hotfixes: October 16, 2020 - WoW
Here you will find a list of hotfixes that
address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Battle For
Azeroth and WoW Classic.
[4:41 PM]
Eonwe's back and has something for us about WoW. Go ahead!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Thanks.
[4:41 PM]
Just thought I'd share a few impressions on the patch so far.
Varda10/18/2020
Cool.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Anyone who took a peek in on the screenshots channel will see my new
Void
Elf Hunter with the High Elf aesthetics, and that he made it
from 10 (starting level for a Void Elf) to 50 (current max level) in
the last 5 days.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Grats!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
That's virtually no rested experience, given I was moving that fast.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I have a new alt too, made my panda DK day before the patch because
I got my CE that day, so she started at 58
[4:45 PM]
(just tossed link in screenshots... carry on Eonwe!)
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I personally think that was a pretty good pace. Kept me interested
enough in the story without it dragging. I chose the Legion
expansion to Chromie Time through. If you haven't hit max level
previously, you're stuck going through Battle for Azeroth the first
time.
Irmo10/18/2020
And this is where I have to answer to my calling! Off to
dreamland Bye bye folks!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Makes sense, though, keeps people a bit involved with the story if
they've not seen it before.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Considering there's now 7 expansions and you can choose which of
those seven to go from 10-50 in, I'd say that makes things a little
more replayable for alts.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Namarie!
Varda10/18/2020
Namarie
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Sleep well Irmo.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Eonwe, I've been wondering. What happens if you don't poke Chromie
and try to level the old way?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I didn't try that way, hehe. But if I recall, you should just be in
the regular world where everythign is squished to the appropriate
level.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Ah, okay.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
So WotK would be,.. 25-30 I think, something like that.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Probably outlevel stuff really fast
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Probably, hehe.
[4:49 PM]
But it does kick you out of Chromie Time into the "real world"
after about a 30 or so second countdown to brace yourself for time
travel, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I mean, if you're on your fourth paladin or whatever I can
understand, but I'd rather see all the content with all the classes
at least once, for mog's sake if nothing else.
[4:49 PM]
Ah yes, I heard, after you hit 50.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Yeah. So if you're going to Chromie Time the entire expansion and
not just go back to mop up after you hit max, you need to remember
to turn off EXP gains at 49.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
hehe
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
The pace kept me engaged with my Hunter, so I thought it worked out
well. I don't think it needs sped up, and I hope it's not slowed
down later.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
That's good. But how far in were you when you hit 50 (or 49.9)?
Arien Valar10/18/2020
Phari
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Mostly skipped Stormheim. I was getting started on Suramar.
Arien Valar10/18/2020
to answere your question if u dont go to Chromie you land
automatically in the latest expansion aaka Zandalar
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
But isn't that also chromie time?
Arien Valar10/18/2020
you see the guy who gives you the missions in each faction and
follow that up and not yetr
[4:53 PM]
i guess it might become chronmie time after sl and the next is
annokunced
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I did run into some problems transitioning into BfA though, like
after getting my Heart of Azeroth, my portal back to Boralus was
missing, and I couldn't go back into the Chamber.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Yeah, there's some bugs, but they're hotfixing that as they go.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Overall though, first impression of the new system from the
perspetive of making an alt is good.
[4:56 PM]
My main of course lost a huge chunk of power, and his ability to
solo what he could before is in question.
[4:56 PM]
I wasn't happy about that, heh. But I'm sure we all have a similar
story.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Myyyyeeees. Our mythic expeditions have become rather more
interesting.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I'll end my assessment there. We'll see how Shadowlands shapes up
when it finally launches.
[4:59 PM]
And I got my Collector's Edition in this week as well, so yay for
all of us who ordered it :}
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
Aiya
Varda10/18/2020
Thank you and congrats on the Collector's Edition. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Aiya!
Varda10/18/2020
Aiya Pallando!
[4:59 PM]
Did you want to add anything about Eve
Online?
[5:00 PM]
We only mentioned the patch notes.
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
...my grandmother always told me if you don't have anything nice to
say don't say anything at all.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Oh, for those interested, my Hunter's name is Calauros, heh.
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
I'm afraid I'm not particularly pleased with CCP right now.
[5:01 PM]
My group has managed some impressive feats int he face of strong
adversity, but well.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Sorry to hear that Pallando.
Varda10/18/2020
Your group is to be commended then. : )
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
I will say that the war for the stars has ended (for now) and 27
stars were ...transformed somehow, and previous connections don't
exist and they're red and in a new sort of space.
[5:02 PM]
The details are complex and we're doing a lot of SCIENCE to figure
them out, so maybe in a few weeks I can update everyone with what
happened.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
..Calauros? Are you taking my tradition of naming everyone Cal-?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Will the update come with a Thomas Dolby soundtrack? :}
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
also, half-afk, preparing midnight dinner
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
Actually the official soundtrack is Prodigy - Invaders Must Die.
[5:04 PM]
But maybe the update can do just a little bit of blinding science.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Been using "Kal" for a while, with Gal/Cal being more recent
(philologically) versions of that root :}
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
(all of my fleets for the past 5 or 6 months or so have been titled
"Invaders Must Die" and at some point certain people who have been
recording fights are supposed to make me a video with that as the
soundtrack..)
[5:06 PM]
[5:07 PM]
there's an image
of a star in the new space with a Bhaalgorn-class battleship in
the foreground.
Shelob10/18/2020
Good evening
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Fionwë --> alternate "Kalmo", Kalasul self-made for my Holy
Priest way back in the day, "modern" Quenya = "Calasulo". I named my
Demon Hunter Calraufar, and just couldn't get a name to sound good
besides "Calauros" so I went with it, heh.
Pallando-Valar10/18/2020
(the little line in the lower left igoes to the device that powers
the transformation)
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I've got like 20 Cals now.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
That's an interesting image, Pallando.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Can always find something that sounds decent
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Not like we're competing for names anyway, Phar :}
Varda10/18/2020
Thanks. I was trying to figure out the image.
[5:13 PM]
Looking forward to the video.
[5:13 PM]
Aiya Shelob : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Aiya!
Varda10/18/2020
Starcraft 2:
[5:15 PM]
Big news here:
[5:15 PM]
Blizzard has announced they will no longer be creating for purchase
content for Starcraft 2. Check out the announcement for more info.
[5:15 PM]
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/starcraft2/23544726/starcraft-ii-update-october-15-2020
StarCraft II Update - October 15, 2020
We want to let you know about a development
change we’re making for StarCraft II.
[5:17 PM]
Overwatch:
[5:17 PM]
A new blog is out: Traces of Tracer: A History of the First
Overwatch Hero.
[5:17 PM]
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23544725/traces-of-tracer-a-history-of-the-first-overwatch-hero/
Overwatch
Traces of Tracer: A History of the First
Overwatch Hero
Before you dive into issue #2 of Tracer’s titular
comic, London Calling, discover more about how the most iconic
character of Overwatch became who she is today.
[5:17 PM]
Hearthstone:
[5:17 PM]
Now out: Patch 18.4.2.
[5:18 PM]
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23537436/18-4-2-patch-notes
18.4.2 Patch Notes
The 18.4.2 patch includes balance updates for
several Battlegrounds Heroes and minions!
[5:18 PM]
Something is being revealed October 22nd.
[5:18 PM]
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23537431/save-the-date-hearthstone-fall-reveal-coming-october-22
Save the Date: Hearthstone Fall Reveal, Coming
October 22!
Tune in on October 22 for a preview of new
content and major changes coming to Hearthstone.
[5:18 PM]
Looks like a suspicious Eye there.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
eye and balloons, looks like the Darkmoon Faire.
Varda10/18/2020
Lord of the Rings Online:
[5:19 PM]
Durin's Day is going until October 20th.
[5:19 PM]
A number of Captains have been giving free summons to the Durin's
Day area.
[5:20 PM]
This is the place where the thrush knocked and the light fell on the
spot for the key for Bilbo and the dwarves.
[5:21 PM]
If no captain available (and it's nice to tip!), run up to Dis's
Raven place and take the rocky slope up on the left side, goes a
pretty long way, to the top.
[5:22 PM]
Enjoy! This only goes on for a short time, (used to be one day only)
but complaints from people working or otherwise unable to show that
one time of year.
[5:22 PM]
World Server Transfers are now possible again (for those realms that
allowed transfers).
[5:23 PM]
This is also true of the old Bombadil server. Feel free to take the
free transfer if you like.
[5:23 PM]
Finally. : )
[5:24 PM]
SSG is trying to make it a regular feature for Wednesday 8 am to be
a downtime for maintenance/restart. We'll see how it goes.
[5:25 PM]
Some of us in LotRO are deeding and whatnot quite hard to make
enough LotRO points to buy the upcoming expansion without having to
use cash. Not everyone has a lot of money right now for fun goodies
like this.
[5:25 PM]
O no, we might have to play!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Pay or play, that's the question.
Varda10/18/2020
And if we get suddenly wealthy, we can use the points for lots of
other goodies, no worries.
[5:26 PM]
It is fair for a game to ask for money for an expansion to keep
themselves afloat.
Shelob10/18/2020
I still have 18k points left over from the original VIP membership
offer I got from way back in the day before there were LOTRO points.
[5:27 PM]
It got me all the expansions up until this point.
[5:27 PM]
Lifetime membership it was called back then... and it was about 2
years of playtime paid in advance I believe.
[5:28 PM]
Worth every penny as it turns out.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I think the last expansion I paid real money for was maybe Helm's
Deep.
Varda10/18/2020
Lifetime membership, which a number of us have, does not include
expansions. Those we have to buy.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
And aye, best 200.00 I spent for that LotRO lifetime membership,
hehehe.
Varda10/18/2020
But lifers get 500 LP per month. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
And here we are, spending over 100 bucks for a single CE in WoW.
Shelob10/18/2020
True, but when LotRO went free to play I just got like a gajillion
points for free.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Aye, and since I barely spend mine, I've got plenty for expansions
that I then wisely only get when they go on sale, heh.
Shelob10/18/2020
Or maybe that was because I hadn't played for ages and those free
points continued to accumulate.
Varda10/18/2020
They did accumulate, aye.
Shelob10/18/2020
Speaking of accumulate... I've been raking in the experience in
Moria.
[5:30 PM]
Ungwetari is now lvl 62, and I must say that I absolutely LOVE Moria
to bits.
Varda10/18/2020
I like to buy the crafting bags, stat tomes, extra storage with LP.
Shelob10/18/2020
Khazad-Dûm's artwork is really something to behold.
Varda10/18/2020
That's great! Moria is also good for finishing up the pages if they
weren't completed yet.
Shelob10/18/2020
The first time I walked into the 21st hall (close to the chamber of
Mazarbul), I had literal goosebumps.
[5:32 PM]
It's a bit smaller than it ought to be, but that's okay in gameplay
terms.
[5:32 PM]
But it really feels like Turbine created the place straight out of
Tolkien's works, and it feels like I'm treading on hallowed grounds
as a visitor.
[5:33 PM]
It's a great experience
[5:33 PM]
Of course, Moria became a whole lot more fun once I figured out that
you can mount in there, just only goats.
[5:33 PM]
Made questing a whole lot easier at least!
[5:35 PM]
And the stairs... oh wow, the stairs! Even though it's not exactly
layered one place on top of the other, it still feels that way for a
large part because of the million and one stairs.
Varda10/18/2020
hehe
Shelob10/18/2020
Anyways, I'll see if I can remember to take a few screenshots this
week to show those less fortunate not to play / have played LotRO.
Varda10/18/2020
The game was built on the books, and we lore nuts kept on it all the
time. And they listened!
[5:36 PM]
That would be cool. : )
Shelob10/18/2020
I'll see if I can do a bit of a recreation of the path the
Fellowship took.
[5:37 PM]
But I'll add in a few of the other places I visited.
[5:38 PM]
Oh, and I completed my quest of cleaning out my storage. And in the
meantime cleaned out all the old characters and dumped them into the
ashheap.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Kicking and screaming...
Shelob10/18/2020
Nah, they went willingly.
[5:39 PM]
Though I should have taken Menelmacare's gold.
[5:39 PM]
But then again, he earned it, so, oh well.
Varda10/18/2020
That was a lot of time, gone. I believe there is a name change. And
yes, that's the first thing, is sell your stuff and send the gold to
the surviving characters.
[5:40 PM]
Starting fresh!
Shelob10/18/2020
Lvl 45 is a month or two of time. Not that much.
[5:40 PM]
And I'm okay with it. It's indeed a fresh start.
Varda10/18/2020
Your bevy of spiders are going strong.
[5:41 PM]
Thank you to Irmo and Lenwe for running instances with Shelob at a
time they all play.
Shelob10/18/2020
Menel was a male hunter, now that I've found my true self, I don't
want to play males anymore. So, unfortunately, that means no dwarves
for me.
[5:41 PM]
Yeah, that was amazing.
Varda10/18/2020
I play dwarves...
[5:41 PM]
Just can't tell a male from a female. : )
Shelob10/18/2020
Maybe in the future Varda.
Varda10/18/2020
Sure, no worries.
Shelob10/18/2020
But for now, I want to stick to strictly female. I think it's a
trans thingy.
Varda10/18/2020
Play what suits you, because then you'll enjoy it and get good!
[5:42 PM]
No worries.
Shelob10/18/2020
Exactly.
[5:42 PM]
Anyways, that was my part of the news.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
ponders I now have 10 male and 10 female characters in WoW...
Varda10/18/2020
Do we have any more gaming news? Other businesses? Requests? What
you would like to see in our kin chest in LotRO?
[5:43 PM]
I have a few male characters, mostly female.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
It helps to see them as their own person, I guess.
[5:43 PM]
It's like they're my children. Who I also control.
Shelob10/18/2020
Phar, I always, always had many more female characters than male
characters in any game.
Varda10/18/2020
Avatars.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
yes, but with individuality, Varda
Varda10/18/2020
Just not blue.
[5:43 PM]
Aye.
Shelob10/18/2020
Phar, you leave those poor children be! Let them be themselves!
[5:44 PM]
wink
[5:44 PM]
Also, let them wander around in dark caves...
Varda10/18/2020
And meet up with Arien!
Shelob10/18/2020
Especially if there's a bit of webbing here and there.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I usually do so. Which is why most of them stand in Ironforge (does
that count as a cave?) for like 8 months at a time doing nothing.
Varda10/18/2020
I think the sun is tough on webbing.
[5:44 PM]
Slackers.
Shelob10/18/2020
Nono, I mean more caves like (and specifically!) Cirith Ungol.
[5:45 PM]
I could use a snack or two. grin
Varda10/18/2020
Remmirochant time. Need to kill Shelob in the big raid.
Shelob10/18/2020
Funny that you mention it!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
...starting to sound like fun >.>
Shelob10/18/2020
I talked to a person looking in LFF for more people to the Shelob
raid, and I asked him why they were hunting me.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Is that what I have to do before you snack on my little Cals?
Shelob10/18/2020
And that I ought to get to lvl 20 and get the undying trait muhahaha
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
*to prevent you
Varda10/18/2020
hehe
[5:46 PM]
In some of those raids, it feels as if Shelob has the Undying title.
: )
Shelob10/18/2020
And the guy said is that you don't kill Shelob in the raid, just
wound her, and that, according to Celeborn, she will not crawl forth
from the shadows again.
Varda10/18/2020
There you go.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
So she'll just starve to death?
Shelob10/18/2020
Although, more specifically, he says she will not crawl from the
shadows from that place.
Varda10/18/2020
She wasn't too keen on coming outside before. Orc munchies were
common, that Sauron allowed her.
Shelob10/18/2020
And I pointed out that if she extends her shadows beyond that place,
she won't be crawling from the shadows from that place, but
technically crawling from the shadows that may have come from that
place but are now in an adjacent place.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Yeah, but... how many orcs still roam that area?
Shelob10/18/2020
Grammar works on prophecy as well.,
[5:49 PM]
Like Glorfindel. He said that the Witch King would not be slain by
Man.
Varda10/18/2020
But a Woman and a Hobbit? Look out.
Shelob10/18/2020
He did not say the race or the gender, so a She-man and a Hobbit-Man
were not on the list.
[5:50 PM]
Therefore, Shelob has a little bit of wriggle room where Celeborn's
prophecy is concerned.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Prophecies are like wishes from a genie.
Shelob10/18/2020
On the other hand.... we kind of know that Iluvatar's goal for Eä
isn't exactly to have it be devoured by a spider, so he might be
onto something.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Never be ambiguous if you want something done.
Varda10/18/2020
Gandalf was a Maia. And there were lots of Elves. Plenty of room for
interpretation?
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
No man shall slay him.. but nobody mentioned that wasp going down
his throat.
Shelob10/18/2020
And we know from Fingolfin's battle with Melkor that not even the
Valar were unable to be wounded by one of the lesser races.
Varda10/18/2020
Ok, I need to give the Tolkien question and Tolkien Moment
previously planned when you guys are ready. I'm running out of time.
[5:52 PM]
Or just stick with Shelob as a topic. : )
Shelob10/18/2020
I kind of thought we had smoothly transitioned into Tolkien already.
Varda10/18/2020
Morgoth was unwilling to do his natural Ainur thing of the body
being a mere extension of the fea. He was not supposed to be a
"body".
[5:53 PM]
Yes, that's why we put LotRO as the last game. ; )
Shelob10/18/2020
Yeah, but we all know that Melkor was a bit daft. He was probably
too close to the speakers when the original music was made. Messed
up his head it did.
Varda10/18/2020
heh
[5:54 PM]
That music of Creation may have been loud.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
He got messed up by the Void Lords of Warcraft.
Shelob10/18/2020
Twas his own fault that loudness.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Melkor was too busy trying to be the whole orchestra.
Shelob10/18/2020
He was trying to be the conductor.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
That as well. Play every part in the ensemble.
Shelob10/18/2020
As I said, a bit daft.
Varda10/18/2020
Feel free to continue the topic, but meanwhile,
Shelob10/18/2020
It's Eru's fault I tell you! He shouldn't have let baby Melkor drop
on his head.
Varda10/18/2020
a gavel scampers to the hammerpad and jumps on it
[5:56 PM]
toink!
[5:56 PM]
top
After-meeting:
[5:56 PM]
Pray or prey continue.
[5:57 PM]
I must go make supper.
Shelob10/18/2020
Namarie Varda, Bon Appetit, Eet smakelijk!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
eyes Shelob ehr.. who's the prey?
[5:57 PM]
Eet smakelijk
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Since we're in Aftermeeting, I'll throw this out there.
Shelob10/18/2020
Well, I live in a cave.... who else lives in a cave? eyes Phar
close by
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Interesting definition of close by.
Shelob10/18/2020
All caves are interconnected. It is known
[5:58 PM]
Still waiting for Eonwë to drop whatever he's holding on us.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
"Pharazon" -> from "Pharaz" = "gold" but "Calion" from "Cal" =
"shine" with an indication of light. Why not translate to words
based on "Laurë" indicating gold of light/color, or "mal" indicating
"gold"? Blame Phar for the positing, hehe.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I suppose they preferred the sound.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
"Malion" or probably "Mallen" not good enough?
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Tar-Malion..
[6:02 PM]
It might work. It might.
Shelob10/18/2020
Maybe too female sounding?
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Tal-Laure might be. Malion.. I don't hear it.
[6:03 PM]
"Just call me Laura!"
Shelob10/18/2020
I think there is a subtle difference between the light as shining,
versus the color of the light.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Laurion?
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Could work.
Shelob10/18/2020
The first indicates a reflection of the light, the second the light
itself.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Mind you, Tar-Laure or Tar-Laurion has a bit of a tonguecatcher on
the r-L.
Shelob10/18/2020
And considering that all things evil were a reflection of the gifts
of Iluvatar... and Pharzy did kind of turn evil...
[6:06 PM]
Tar Calion would therefore suit him much better than Tar Larion
would.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
So basically I'm a mirror.
Shelob10/18/2020
Like the Orcs are the mirrors of the Elves.
[6:07 PM]
Just very bad ones.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
To completely mix genres, Amandil's Shinzon?
Shelob10/18/2020
On that note, you could call yourself Azanul, Phar.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I think I'll stick with Pharazon. I'm sure Tolkien had his reasons.
[6:17 PM]
Or Calion, rather.
[6:18 PM]
Let's not rewrite the master.
[6:19 PM]
And now, let's poke Hearthstone.. I might need to skip less days if
I want to get my 5 wins this month, it's not been going well so far
[6:20 PM]
Still, the place I work in the mornings just shut down for 2 weeks
because someone got covid. So I don't need to get up early for a
while.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I was actually posing it thinking you might have an exerpt or two to
share on it, Phar, hehe
[6:22 PM]
And sorry to hear that.
Arien Valar10/18/2020
right bed time
Shelob10/18/2020
Good luck! And hope your co-worker gets better!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
shrug less early mornings, it's volunteer work... I should miss it,
but I can't say no to some free days.
Arien Valar10/18/2020
Namarie Valarites
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Yes, true, bad for the coworker.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Sleep well Arien.
Shelob10/18/2020
Good idea Arien! I ought to do the same.
[6:23 PM]
Namarie!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Namarie!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
As for your posit, Eonwe, I'm not actually that well versed in
Tolkien's languages, not even for my own name
[6:36 PM]
Now, personal gaming rrreport!
Ioreth10/18/2020
Was outside building a chicken house so I wasn't able to eves drop
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Alright. 3 flashgames have been chosen from
this week's 7 badges, all ones I'd done before.. but fun!
[7:03 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Contrebasse_/love
is the first game! Metaphor and a half right there. The idea is to
gather happiness by risking getting hurt: You're a block that needs
to get as close as possible to as many other blocks as possible
flying around to get a higher spin and gather more happiness points,
without actually being hit by them.
Kongregate
Love
Love is a unique and addictive high-score game
where you risk getting hurt to gather happiness. It features a fully
interactive soundtrack that is entirely dir...
[7:03 PM]
See how many points you get!
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Mintsphere/trigger-knight
for the second game, a running/survival game, bit roguelike-...like.
Kongregate
Trigger Knight
An Experimental Mini-Survival/RPG that uses
one-button mechanic!
Guide the Knight to defeat as many enemies as she
can before her life ends! Gather gold via c...
[7:14 PM]
Run along, fight enemies, collect gold, upgrade weapons and armor
from shops you pass, but also keep enough gold to replenish your
lifespan when needed.
[7:14 PM]
Onebutton game, since you can only perform one action when reaching
an enemy or passing a shop.
[7:17 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/2DArray/viricide
for the third game! My favorite of the bunch for this week, an
upgrade shooter. You're inside a computer fighting off viruses,
collecting bits and upgrading your way through the levels, while
being guided by the AI you're fixing up. If you die you keep the
bits, so it's just a matter of upgrading until you can beat a level
Kongregate
Viricide
Clear out the viruses that are infecting a
chronically depressed AI. Buy upgrades, shoot bad guys, and ponder
where the cutoff lies for being considered a livi...
[7:23 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
Still level 430.. but got closer with a few!
[7:24 PM]
Hearthstone:
No new levels. Book of Heroes: Rexxar was released this week, along
with a legendary quest, the third of the event, to beat the first
boss.
[7:24 PM]
Which was, fortunately, not that difficult
Ioreth10/18/2020
I just discovered the messed with Druid starfall. I hate it when I
have to learn new things
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Brawl this week is playing with one of several different "bosses"
with specific class themes, I had some fun with the Cenarius one,
which is about spamming treants and buffing em up
[7:25 PM]
Ah, yes, I heard.
[7:25 PM]
Pretty good, though, apparently.
[7:26 PM]
WoW:
[7:27 PM]
Another Jaina run on tuesday, the day before the patch in Europe, so
we still got to use all our corruptions. Still no mount for me!
[7:27 PM]
We had our first raid today at level 50, because on thursday the
servers were acting up. Tuning seems to be okay. Perhaps we're even
a bit too powerful.
Ioreth10/18/2020
did you see the icyveins where someone level 11 solo'd the level 50
storm crow boss in kul tiras - a druid of course
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Got my Collector's Edition on tuesday! Looked through the artbook,
listened to the soundtrack, and put my 4 Covenant pins on their
stand, placed on my computer closet. Looking good. Was thinking of
putting the Ardenweald pin on some of my clothing but it's looking
fine up there so far.
[7:29 PM]
Azurethos? Huh, not bad. I guess the mechanics are okay to avoid.
[7:30 PM]
I thought it'd hit too hard though.
Ioreth10/18/2020
using that cromy thing. I'm not working on a low level so I have no
clue how it works
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Ah. I guess I assumed the world bosses would be level 50 scaled.
[7:31 PM]
Also, druids best class!
[7:32 PM]
Anyway, got my CE, linked up SL to my account, and made my pandaren
death knight, Calshanguia, who's armory page is up on the
screenshots channel.
Ioreth10/18/2020
if you have a low level you talk to cromi and you can go quest
wherever you want with some type of level balancing.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Yeah, but... world bosses, really?
Ioreth10/18/2020
wonder if they'll adjust that a little... lol
[7:33 PM]
What's the meaning of Calshanguia? it's pretty to look at.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Cal's basically my standard character prefix. I made her as a blood
death knight, so I messed around a bit with some chinese and the
word sangria.
Ioreth10/18/2020
it's a neat looking name. I like it
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I think shi was the chinese word for death.
[7:35 PM]
While gui is ghost. So it's a mix of those elements. At least that's
what I remember from when I decided on her name some months ago.
[7:36 PM]
And yes, I like the name too
[7:36 PM]
My little blood panda.
[7:37 PM]
So yeah, since I was able to create her the day before the patch,
she started out at 58 and scaled down to 24 instead of 10
Ioreth10/18/2020
ah, it's really not bad leveling a lower one I'm told
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Nah, but still. Felt right to make her before the revamp.
[7:38 PM]
stares at armory picture She has such a creepy smile.
Ioreth10/18/2020
I like the makeovers I have seen so far. Cute flower for druids
(guys and gals) is sweet
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I could've waited a day to give her the new customizations, yes, but
I like her the way she is now.
[7:39 PM]
I did take a number of my alts to the barbershop, though, to see if
I wanted to change some things.
[7:40 PM]
I think I plucked the nose ring out of my paladin, gave my gnome
warlock the new curly hairstyle, and messed around with the worgen a
bit.
Ioreth10/18/2020
I've been giving forelocks to Tauren mostly. I love the new palamino
color - and the pure white worgen
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/caliona
has the most changes though. Messed up her hair and put vines
everywhere. She likes to show her wild side.
World of Warcraft
Caliona - Character - WoW
Caliona (Argent Dawn) ❮The High Guard❯ - 11 Night
Elf Beast Mastery Hunter, 13 ilvl
[7:41 PM]
Yeah, I was tempted by the white worgen
[7:41 PM]
Oh, and I also put some leaves in my druid's hair. Seems right for
Shadowlands, to have some autumn hair.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Ok, I've got my portal to/from Silithus back but not my access to
the Chamber of the Heart.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Ouch.
[7:42 PM]
Well, it's progress?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Guess I've got to click through alot of quests before I get it all.
Ioreth10/18/2020
ouch. can you get there if you just go there? (and change to the
right time)
[7:43 PM]
are we keeping essences or not? I've heard both ways
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Essences are kept in general, but won't be active in the
Shadowlands.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
No way to change time. Chromie threw me out into the cold, cruel
world.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
That Chromie, you never can tell.
Ioreth10/18/2020
even ol' whats her name who stands at the begining of the zone when
you come up from the dino land?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Well I've got the portal, so I should have access to the Heart too.
[7:45 PM]
Everything in the area spawns correctly.
[7:46 PM]
Maybe Azeroth just doesn't want to let me back into her heart
rimshot.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
You might break it.
[7:47 PM]
If I had a diamond heart ♪
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Her heart had been rather achy-breaky of late.
[7:48 PM]
I shouldn't play games with it.
[7:49 PM]
I thought only a Druid could cause a total eclipse of it...
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Anyway, CE came with new mount, pet and hearthstone toy, so yay
[7:49 PM]
There's also the quest for the transmog thing but I've not started
that yet. Kinda want to finish my archaeo first.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Insert any song by the band Heart
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
hehe
[7:51 PM]
But wait, there's more!
Ioreth10/18/2020
back to supervise chicken house project. Namarie if I don't see you
soon.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Have fun :}
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
I got a new toy from expeditions; or rather, it procced as the quest
reward for the treasure map mission you get from doing 3
expeditions.
[7:52 PM]
A drum that turns me into a pygmee!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Congrats
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
pygmy?
[7:52 PM]
something
[7:52 PM]
Thanks
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I did those just enough for the upgrade thing and never went back. I
guess at some point I should.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Hmhm, lots of collectibles!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
pygmy would be it
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Yeah
[7:53 PM]
And this week I also got the one toy from BfA I thought I'd have the
least chance of getting, the pvp one which requires you to kill 10
enemy faction players and then 10 of your own to get an achievement
from N'Zoth.
[7:54 PM]
Helped out a friend getting it, turned out that you don't need
killing blows so we both got the quest at the same time, and decided
to get some more friends to get us the achievement each.. after
which we helped a few others of the group too.
[7:54 PM]
Not how I imagined spending my monday night but it was fun, and we
got our rewards
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Congrats on that.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Thanks!
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
NZoth keeps trying to get me to do that and I have to keep saying
no, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Lessee... pet battles for the weekly, got a few wins with my 3 gnome
"pets", but nothing new about that...
[7:55 PM]
hah
[7:56 PM]
It works with friends though, get 3 or 4 and you can basically get
it done in half an hour
[7:56 PM]
Oh! And finally more archaeaeaeology.
[7:57 PM]
Got all the rares! Two new pets, one from each faction, including a
cute little wicker dog from the Drust, as well as the last toy.
[7:58 PM]
Then it was just waiting for the pristines. I got all the Zandalari
ones now, and am just waiting for my last from the Drust. So the
last few days I've been digging up Kul Tiras, hoping not only for
that artifact to proc, but also to be pristine. Not very lucky so
far!
[7:58 PM]
But we'll get there, I'm sure.
Ioreth10/18/2020
Back! I'm still trying to get my vial recipe
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Also, there appears to be an 8.2 questline for Magni and MOTHER
which I knew I had missed back then, but it was removed in 8.3; it
came back this week, so I think I'll go through it just for the
lore.
[8:01 PM]
Ah, yes. That can be a pain, I hear
Ioreth10/18/2020
OH?
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Aaaanyway, that's my report for the week!
[8:03 PM]
...And yes, that's what I heard?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
I don't remember, and I hadn't heard that.
[8:08 PM]
Afraid I'm of no help on that.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
The Magni quest or the vial?
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
The Magni quest.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Ah, yes.
[8:09 PM]
Well, according to the wowhead comments on the first quest, I wasn't
alone. Some people even reported getting it after having completed
it in the past.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
But I'm suprised that after everything, my Artifact is actually 4
ilvls higher than the weapon you get from starting Nazjatar.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Huh.
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Yeah. My Artifact is ilvl 64, the weapon is ilvl 60.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
Hmm.
[8:12 PM]
I've got a 115 equipped, that really ramped up then...
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
The BoEs from the invasion areas seem to only be ilvl 76
Ioreth10/18/2020
Someone in my guild mentioned the artifact weapon was better
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
There, Magni wants to talk to me again. Maybe now Azeroth will
Listen to her Heart.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
hehe
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
It's pun night, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V10/18/2020
namarie!
Varda10/18/2020
Namarie
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Sleep well :}
[9:24 PM]
Don't forget to go trick-or-treating on WoW with your lower lvl
chars for easy exp :}
Eonwë Valar10/18/2020
Time for me to get some rest. Take care all, good night, sleep well,
and have fun.
Varda10/18/2020
Going to bed here too. Namarie!
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