June 9, 2019 Sunday Meeting
5:00
P.M. Eastern time (-4 GMT aka 9 P.M. aka 21:00)
Discord:
Valar Guild/meeting_place
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Transcript work by Varda.
Attending (and
spoke): (8)
Discord:
Anarion, Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Elladan, Elrond, Eonwe, Falco, Varda
(presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Elwing
Ar-Pharazon
Web:
New screenshot art by Arien.
The Timeline.
The guild uses membership names from outside the
main books of H, LotR, and Sil.
Gaming:
General reports
E3
Tolkien:
Topic: What JRRT had to write with.
After-meeting:
On LotRO Landroval server, Arien is offering
raspberries.
Flashgaming Reviews by
Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting
(times are in Central from Varda's Discord, so add one hour for
Eastern. Example: 4pm Central in the transcript is 5pm Eastern)
VardaLast Sunday at 4:00 PM
Aiya
Meeting time. :smiley:
Aiya Phar : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:08 PM
Aiya!
AnarionLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Aiya folks
I am here ;)
VardaLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Anarion! Good to see you!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Aiya Anarion!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
I've been messing with your timeline
page. /duck
ElladanLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Aiya!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Hey Elladan : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Aiya Elladan!
ElladanLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
Hello :smiley:
ArienValarLast Sunday at 4:10 PM
Aiya Valarites :smiley:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:10 PM
Aiya Sunshine. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:10 PM
Aiya Arien!
ArienValarLast Sunday at 4:10 PM
Aiya Anarion :smile: It has been a long time
ElladanLast Sunday at 4:11 PM
Aiya, Arien!
ArienValarLast Sunday at 4:11 PM
Aiya , Elladan :smiley:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:12 PM
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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Membership:
It's really good to see you! This must be a good day to be on. Feel
free to type or lurk, whatever works for you.
Any news from the membership?
Elwing-(V) is visiting at my house, currently gaming with Fangorn,
as I was. Hello from her. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:13 PM
Back from midweek vacation!
Also, Aiya to Elwing and Fangorn!
ArienValarLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
Aiya to Elwing and Fangorn from me too :smiley:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:16 PM
Any other membership news folks would like to pass along?
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Web:
In the art site, we have screenshots from Arien of some places in
Middle-earth from Lord of the Rings Online. The idea is to find
shots we can use in the Encyclopedia, a tricky thing to do
sometimes.
Here's the direct link:
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/art/gallery/Arien/LotRO.htm
Middle-earth scenes in LotRO
screenshots
The name of Arien's hobbit is Crelambert,
and the other is Anarduil.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:18 PM
Hah! Reminds me of the hobbit/halfling Lambert in a webcomic...
VardaLast Sunday at 4:18 PM
I intend to make that correction. Writing it here helps make
sure it happens. : )
Me too. ; )
A reminder to help with the Timeline by Anarion that we added to, as
it makes a great jump-off point for articles:
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/events/timeline/Complete_Chronology_of_First_Age.htm
It is a very good way to keep one's mind straight on when and where
events occurred, and link to the characters living then.
Thank you again, to Anarion. : )
Feel free to mention if you have any Tolkien or Middle-earth related
news.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
Well, a small question came to mind that is
member/tolkien-related...
VardaLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
Also on our website, Eonwe has been keeping us updated on Gaming.
Feel free to send him reports as reporters, and feel free to cc me
for the General News if you like.
http://valarguild.org/gaming
The Valar Guild Games Site
Valar Guild Games Site
Phar, go ahead.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:23 PM
I opened Book of Lost Tales on a whim last night, and read
through the cottage of lost play.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:23 PM
Love people's light reading around here. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:23 PM
And started wondering if there were members of the Valarguild who
had taken their names from the Lost Tales instead :smiley:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:24 PM
We do that from all the books in gaming, as alternate names,
sometimes mishmashed to be ok in that gaming world.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:24 PM
But not as primary member names?
VardaLast Sunday at 4:24 PM
Most can be "translated" to the primary name.
Fionwe is known by us as Eonwe, for instance.
The other names are considered alternate names for the same member.
I originally wanted to use Elbereth, but it's much easier to type
Varda. ; )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:26 PM
Yes, but there are some unique to the Tales, like Eriol, Meril,
Littleheart, and others.
I was just curious :smiley:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:26 PM
Where the name is unique, that is fine, yes.
We had a member named Chrysophylax for a while.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:27 PM
Ah yes, that works too :smiley:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:27 PM
It is ok to do, aye.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:27 PM
Just a small wondering, that's all. Opens up the list of possible
member names a bit.
Proceed :wink:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:28 PM
That's correct and has been true all along. Trick is to find someone
who wants to use one or is aware of them early on.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:28 PM
Hmhm. They're not common knowledge.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:28 PM
It can be tricky to have a "relationship" with other members from a
character who was never around them, but we handle that all the time
anyway.
Right. Most of our members learn those books after joining, but we
have a number of scholars who already knew them.
They have to want to be known by that name, too.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:29 PM
Hah, yes.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:30 PM
You took your name to redeem it from one who besmirched it, and did
a great job of it!
We have many reasons for picking our names.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:30 PM
Hah, I'd forgotten about the previous one.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:30 PM
(I liked being a warcry.)
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:30 PM
hehe
VardaLast Sunday at 4:30 PM
I have a strangely long memory. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:31 PM
I have a strangely short one. Just this afternoon I happened to be
pondering how I found the guild in the first place.
Probably something Warcraftrelated :wink:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:31 PM
One reason to say your "few words" when joining. You can look back
at the transcript to read it.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:32 PM
Could work!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:32 PM
I mean, when people do that. It can't happen when they don't come to
meetings where we can introduce them.
I joined from Diablo 1 when Eru saw my Tolkien name and talked to me
about it.
and I brought friends.
Anyone else like to share their story?
AnarionLast Sunday at 4:34 PM
I remember having to do some wiki-ing for my name
VardaLast Sunday at 4:34 PM
You and many others. : )
I try to make our site available to make it easier to find a name.
They can search under the race as a subject and see if any appeal.
It's easiest if they have a preferred race!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:35 PM
"
Ar-Pharazon said his few words of introduction.
He's from the Netherlands and hopes to clear the bad taste from the
guild name he took, as a challenge. He is very well-read in Tolkien
and plays many games."
VardaLast Sunday at 4:35 PM
There you go!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:35 PM
Hmm. My well-read-ness is slacking (though apparently restored a bit
last night!) and my "many games" has been reduced to WoW and a few
blizzard and browser games.
Still!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:36 PM
Time passes. : )
What year does that show?
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:36 PM
2003. I knew it was around that time :stuck_out_tongue:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:36 PM
Very good! Dates are a weakness for me.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:38 PM
Yeah, I was probably looking for Tolkien-maps in Warcraft 3 or
something and must've stumbled on the guild. I know I started a
test, then finished it a week later on the anniversary :wink:
And here I am!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:38 PM
Yay!
Moving on to
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Gaming
Eonwe gave us a report on the site:
http://valarguild.org/gaming
The Valar Guild Games Site
Valar Guild Games Site
World of WarCraft:
This week's bonus event: Arena Skirmishes.
The Thousand Boat Bash begins the 6th and ran through Saturday, June
8th.
A new preview is out. The title says it all: Many New Treasures
Await in Rise of Azshara.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23021196/many-new-treasures-await-in-rise-of-azshara
World of Warcraft
Many New Treasures Await in Rise of Azshara - WoW
Rise of Azshara introduces a treasure trove of
new mounts, pets, toys, and gear to earn and collect. We’ve rounded
up a selection of what’s waiting to be discovered.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:40 PM
That was a long list to read through, let alone collect... :wink:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:40 PM
Check out this week's hotfixes.
: )
We used to have a lot of Tolkien world maps before the estate asked
people to take most of them down. They needed to publish their own
map book without a lot of free competition.
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:41 PM
Heya all.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:41 PM
Aiya!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:42 PM
We support the Tolkien family any way we can, so the non-competers
were the only ones remaining.
Aiya Eonwe! Just talking about your Games Site entries. Thanks!
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:42 PM
(Caught up on previous chat. Note to Phar: We did have the Vala
Makar for a while, probably before your time though.)
VardaLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Aye, we did. His brother still holds the streaming for us, Scatha.
Last I heard.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Hmm, it does sound familiar. If I hadn't met him, he was probably
mentioned after I joined.
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Streaming? I think you mean the Steam community?
VardaLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Yes, thanks.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Steaming?
VardaLast Sunday at 4:44 PM
heh. Good thing we have a lot of heads here to help remember.
StarCraft 2:
Patch 4.9.1 is out.
https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23015443
StarCraft II
StarCraft II Official Game Site
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powerful races. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from
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Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:46 PM
Oh, and the current Maiar Alatar and Pallando, but that I think is
more UT than BoLT. I'd count it as "names in use from outside
LotR/Hobbit/Sil" though :}
VardaLast Sunday at 4:46 PM
Aye. Outside the main three.
You all know Pallando of Eve Online.
Alatar provides the lion's share of our web space, on his own dime.
Thank you!
Lord of the Rings Online:
Update 24: Vales of Andiun is available. Some big changes are
included, like a 64-bit client and an overhaul of the Virtue system,
so check it out.
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?673104-Update-24-Release-Notes
Update 24 Release Notes
Here are the Release Notes for Update 24: Vales
of Anduin, released on Tuesday, June 4th.
Of Special Note
Vales of Anduin
AnarionLast Sunday at 4:48 PM
Another virtue overhaul, haha.
ArienValarLast Sunday at 4:48 PM
Vales of Anduin are nice and green
VardaLast Sunday at 4:49 PM
This is a system overhaul on the virtues. You can shove all the
points you earn into one you want to push, even if it's from what
used to be other deeds.
ArienValarLast Sunday at 4:49 PM
And nice story lines .. just to water your mouths
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:49 PM
Typo noted and corrected, oh Kindler of Lights :}
VardaLast Sunday at 4:49 PM
New Vales of Anduin area. Two new book chapters for the Black Book
of Mordor.(edited)
Speedy, there, oh Vala and Herald of us all.
That typo of mine was too egregious to understand. Edited aread to
area.
The really big change all across LotRO is being able to use 64-bit
instead of 32-bit if you choose.
Some are still having trouble with it, but most are thrilled with
the improvement.
Anyway, have fun with it!
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:53 PM
So far for me seems to load faster.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:53 PM
It does for me too, and looks better.
Smoother, not having crash problems. For my system at least.
Across our three LotRO server branches, players seen in kin this
past week were:
Landroval:
Arien
Elwing
Eonwe
Fangorn
Lenwe
Mirabella
Nar
Thranduil
Varda
Anor:
Arien
Fangorn
Varda
Ithil:
Arien
Dis
Falco
Fangorn
Varda
If anyone needs an invitation or other aid from an officer for their
game, meetings are a good time to catch us!
Just let us know. : )
Any other gaming news? Eve Online folks, other?
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:56 PM
E3 going this week.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:56 PM
What is E3?
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:57 PM
Electronics Entertainment Expo.
AnarionLast Sunday at 4:57 PM
It's a gaming conference
VardaLast Sunday at 4:57 PM
Where is it?
AnarionLast Sunday at 4:57 PM
It's the largest confrence in gaming
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:57 PM
Used to be our primary source for major Blizzard news until they
came up with their own convention nods
VardaLast Sunday at 4:58 PM
https://live.e3expo.com/
E3 Live
You're watching E3 Live from the Los Angeles
Convention Center!
AnarionLast Sunday at 4:58 PM
To be fair, E3 is basically just a large press release factory
but it is big gaming news
usually
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:58 PM
Yeah.
If you're a console gamer, that's probably where you'll hear big
news about your console of choice.
Microsoft had a press conference today. Haven't looked over it.
VardaLast Sunday at 5:02 PM
Trying to locate it. Maybe you find it.
Microsoft conference gets a lot of E3 comments.
FalcoLast Sunday at 5:04 PM
Aiya
VardaLast Sunday at 5:04 PM
Falco! Hi there!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:05 PM
Aiya!
VardaLast Sunday at 5:06 PM
Eve Online news posted on our Harbor channel yesterday:
ElrondYesterday at 8:39 AM
@Pallando-Valar I got a really good deal, so now I have 3 titans.
Pallando-ValarYesterday at 9:44 AM
I have.. 4 leshaks? :p
ElrondYesterday at 1:46 PM
I'm only missing a levi to have the 4 horsemen of the titan
doomsday apocalypse
Just can only fly 2 at a time
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 5:06 PM
Here's the Microsoft conference on Youtube on the official XBox
channel (Must log in to confirm age):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYQ-kPF0iQ
YouTube
Xbox
Xbox E3 Briefing 2019
VardaLast Sunday at 5:06 PM
Thank you.
Time to move on to
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Tolkien!
If you have something you'd like to bring up, please do. Don't feel
like you're breaking in too much because it's typiing.
Earlier we were talking about names we only hear outside H/LotR/Sil
One reason is that they come from notes outside the main published
stories. Some may have only existed on the back of envelopes.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:10 PM
Many treasures on the back of examination papers
VardaLast Sunday at 5:10 PM
In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit. (The most famous one!)
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:10 PM
Indeed!
VardaLast Sunday at 5:11 PM
JRRT was a writer of long stories living during a paper shortage. He
used a regular typewriter and said he could not afford the services
of the ten-finger typists.
And yet. Look how much he produced!
And the quality.
And he kept it mostly secret, as fiction writing, especially
fantasy, was not what a professor was supposed to do.
It gave him a way to explain the languages he invented, of which
there were many.
Not all made it into the books!
He wrote outside working hours on his own time. We know he often
wrote after bedtime because it was quiet.
ArienValarLast Sunday at 5:14 PM
. hahaha thats why he wrote his stories first on the sides of his
books and exercise books
then he picked his ideas and notes out of that and used the known
technique with first pencil then pen , then corrections red and last
not least all over it the black finished end product
VardaLast Sunday at 5:16 PM
Even now, quite a few writers like to write by hand before typing
into a computer.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:17 PM
Hmm, it has its charm... but I like being able to edit more easily
on a computer.
ArienValarLast Sunday at 5:17 PM
makes sense if you are writing a reasonable hand . if you have
one like me you just use the computer straight away unless it is
something spontaneous
VardaLast Sunday at 5:17 PM
As we become used to computers, it's easier now to type
spontaneously on them, rather than just retyping it in for
revisions.
ElrondLast Sunday at 5:18 PM
Aiya! on a side note with the E3 news, if you see the carpet there
on the show, I did the layout for that. That's the industry
I'm in is tradeshows.
VardaLast Sunday at 5:18 PM
Imagine if JRRT had a computer? Would he be gaming or writing?
Fantastic, Elrond! Thanks for letting us know!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:19 PM
Elrond's work is famous
ElrondLast Sunday at 5:20 PM
Hehe. I think he would have enjoyed the old muds, where much of the
playing is left to the imagination, rather than the on-rails style
we have now.
VardaLast Sunday at 5:21 PM
Very likely!
We have reached and smashed past the hour.
Thank you all for coming and being so interesting!
Feel free to chat and game together during After-meeting.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:24 PM
I guess Tolkien might've enjoyed some D&D if it existed back
then
He'd make an excellent dungeon master.
VardaLast Sunday at 5:24 PM
He would indeed.
the gavel dances through the forest on our rather large Valarite
table
the hammerpad rolls towards the perhaps lost gavel
thunk!
all is well
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After-meeting!
Free chat. : )
Ok, checking on supper for the mob here on Taniquetil.
ArienValarLast Sunday at 5:31 PM
thank you oh i got my bowl of rasperries from the vales :P)
VardaLast Sunday at 5:31 PM
Congratulations!
ArienValarLast Sunday at 5:31 PM
thank you
anyone in belfalas feel free to have some when they come by it
is in an alcocve near the breakfast table in the dining hall ~
[Note: LotRO Landroval server]
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 5:47 PM
OK my friends, time for me to be off. Take care all, good night,
sleep well, and have fun :}
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:47 PM
namarie!
ArienValarLast Sunday at 5:56 PM
Namarie Eonwe
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Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 6:34 PM
Personal gaming report!
Starting with the flashgaming.
http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/drive_with_caution
is the first one, a timed platformer where you have to drag handles
to move bridges and obstacles and get your car to the flag. Timing
gets really tough
Drive with Caution - OneMoreLevel.com
http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/red_ball_5
is another platformer, move the red ball around the level, avoid
enemies and spikes, pick up coins, get to the exit; if you get all
coins, avoid getting hurt and get to the exit on time, you get 3
stars!
Red Ball 5 - OneMoreLevel.com
http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/carrot_cave
is the third game, yet another platformer! Hop and bounce around,
grab carrots, avoid lava, and get to the exit before the timer runs
out as can be seen at the top, and moves at various speeds.
Carrot Cave - OneMoreLevel.com
I'm not sure about the exact mechanics, but the speed seems to vary
and if you fail a level you can get an alternative level to complete
in the meantime.
It's a bit weird.
reads up on game oh, apparently the timer is a turtle, and
you can slow him down by grabbing carrots.
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Heroes of the Storm:
no new levels, still 345; but there was a new mount for gold up on
the featured mount list, the Happy Birthday Billie goat. So I got
that one!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 8:07 PM
Hearthstone:
All classes to 58 now! Last few golden basics are now visible, and 2
more levels to go, so end is really in sight
Got all 5 Dalaran Heist wings bought now, so I can start spending
gold and opening packs. Will start that tomorrow I think
Brawl's fun, team up between Anduin (priest) and Morgl (shaman)
against a Nefarian boss. Phase switches got kinda tough, but we got
it done. Lots of cards that are beneficial to your teammate. Key
seemed to be a few cards that rapidly increase in stats whenever
either player plays a card. Very useful.
Also a few neutral legendary cards got as rewards for the events,
with rather niche uses, but might be nice.
WoW:
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 8:44 PM
Jaina downed once again, so that should be the last of the
achievements required. I didn't raid much this week myself, but next
week we should be heading into the Crucible again, maybe complete
that on heroic as well before patch its.
*hits.
Weekly this week is arena skirmishes, which I pushed through on
friday and saturday, seems to be going more smoothly every time it
comes up
Other than that, not much to tell, as I wasn't there for most of the
week. Still doing world quests, but not much gained, certainly no
new toys or anything.
And I was thinking I might get enough expedition dubloons for the
mount, but still a few short!
Oh, and I bought the 25th anniversary figurines. So yay!
And that's my report for the week!
Or well, pre-ordered them. They should get here in October
namarie!
VardaLast Sunday at 8:58 PM
Namarie : )
Good luck with the figurines
June 12, 2019
Eonwe ValarYesterday at 7:02 AM
For those interested and who happen to pop in during the week:
http://valarguild.proboards.com/thread/1162/angmar-bound-chapter-short-respite?page=8&scrollTo=6879
:}
Angmar Bound, Chapter 1: A Short Respite | Valar Guild
The doorward came forward and greeted the
company. "Master Elrond knows of your arrival, and will meet with
you in two hours' time, if such is your desire. In the meantime, the
hospitality of his
Take care all and have fun :}
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