Valar Guild

October 8, 2017 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (9)
    AIM: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Varda (presiding)
    Discord: Arien, Elladan, Thranduil, Miriel, Varda
    LotRO: Arien, Fangorn, Elwing, Varda

Meeting begins
    The chat marathon ends with this meeting! This is being held on AIM and on Discord; pick your favorite or be in both, when you can. At least say hi so others can tell you were there; the list of known participants goes on the Anniversary page.
    New screenshots on the Anniversary page.
    New story by Arien-(Valar)
    State of Valar Gaming, now linked to the Anniversary page.
    General gaming report by Eonwe
    Topic: Tolkien Moments. The first three relate to the Entmoot. The last two are from the Silmarillion. TM1, TM2, TM3, TM4, TM5.
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon

(times for Ar-Pharazon in the Netherlands)

Varda Valar (20:25:52):    Aiya fellow marathoners :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (20:26:00):    Aiya!
Varda Valar (20:27:30):    Aiya Phar :)
Varda Valar (20:27:59):    Lurkers, please make some typed remark here if only to say hi, to be counted for the AIM anniversary marathon. :)
Varda Valar (20:29:03):    So far for AIM I show Arien-(Valar), Ar-Pharazon, AuSteinM-(T), Eonwe-(Valar), Varda-(Valar)
Varda Valar (20:29:11):    Did I miss anyone?
Varda Valar (20:29:30):    For the chats, time zones don't matter, huzzah!
Ar-Pharazon-V (20:29:32):    Well it does say Gwaihir's in the room.
Varda Valar (20:30:06):    Good point.
Varda Valar (20:30:20):    I haven't been counting lurkers in AIM if they don't at least say hi, either.
Varda Valar (20:30:24):    er, in Discord
Varda Valar (20:31:29):    I've been scrolling back in Discord to catch remarks. Need your help in AIM though.
Arien V (20:31:42):    aiya Varda :)
Varda Valar (20:31:53):    Aiya Arien!
Varda Valar (20:32:00):    I see you on Discord too. :)
Varda Valar (20:32:28):    I helped Elwing in rl on LotRO, standing next to her, but haven't quite made it into game. Should be there shortly.
Arien V (20:32:52):    cool
Varda Valar (20:32:53):    She's visiting at our house, brought birthday presents for Bilbo-(V) and Sauron-(Valar)
Arien V (20:33:27):    :D nice reason to visit ! happy birthday to either celebrant :)
Varda Valar (20:34:23):    also fun for the Valar Guild. So many party reasons!
Arien V (20:36:09):    Ding 115 on the Guardian :)
Varda Valar (20:37:54):    Huzzah!!!
Varda Valar (20:38:09):    I'm also not counting talkers. *sigh* That cut out a batch on the list
Ar-Pharazon-V (20:38:10):    grats!
Arien V (20:38:36):    Thanks :D
Varda Valar (20:38:58):    That's really great news, having a tank that high. We can do wonders with that help in Mordor. Instances will be coming up on a later update, hopefully with us ready.
Arien V (20:40:08):    just have to spec tank ^^ i am the damage guardian on her
Arien V (20:40:33):    thats why i have trouble keeping agro when you are there L:)
Varda Valar (20:41:49):    It helps if I'll start late and light instead of hard. It's proper protocol to let a tank get a couple of hits in before dps starts up.
Varda Valar (20:42:19):    Guardians are one of the few that can still get aggro vs that kind of madness, but it takes practice.
Varda Valar (20:42:46):    Fortunately it's free to have both trees, dps and tank, on the Guardian.
Arien V (20:43:06):    yeah just have to trait that
Arien V (20:44:31):    hmmm you cant switch specs in Lotro or and have both?
Arien V (20:44:37):    or all three?#
Varda Valar (20:45:40):    You can have all three if you pay mithril coins for the third tree.
Arien V (20:46:00):    ah right
Varda Valar (20:46:01):    You can switch trait trees/specs on LotRO between combats.
Varda Valar (20:46:05):    Elatan says:    [Note: error. This is an old post, not current.]
Varda Valar (20:46:07):    Should anyone happen to play this (atm in open beta) I am on dragon shard, ingame mail : Makarilli@vala0mar
Ordinary name : Makarilli and in the guild/kin : The Last Alliance.
Varda Valar (20:47:06):    Ancalagon's reply to Elatan:
Varda Valar (20:47:08):   
     I am also playing Neverwinter. My main character is on Beholder (which seems to be the forgotten shard!) but since you only get two character slots anyway there's no reason why I couldn't make a character on another server if we designate an official Valar shard.
     Oh on Beholder I am:
        Ashra Firestoker
        Omira Sablesoul
Varda Valar (20:50:17):    ok, I put up all the chatters I know of in AIM and Discord.
Varda Valar (20:50:34):    Feel free to say yay on the forum, those who haven't already.
Varda Valar (20:50:36):
Ar-Pharazon-V (20:50:40):    yaaaay...
Ar-Pharazon-V (20:50:53):    *Fluttershy voice*
Varda Valar (20:51:04):    awww, cool pony
Eonwe Valar (22:35:25):    Heya All.
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:35:30):    Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (22:35:38):    I'm missing what game Elatan and Ancalagon are talking about?
Varda Valar (22:35:40):    Aiya!
Varda Valar (22:35:46):    It's on the forum
Arien V (22:36:04):    aiya :)
Varda Valar (22:36:18):
Varda Valar (22:36:26):    There's the direct link
Eonwe Valar (22:36:43):    That's an old post.
Eonwe Valar (22:36:56):    Elatan posted that back in 2013
Varda Valar (22:37:22):    sorry, you're right. Someone bumped the post up to Recent Posts.
Eonwe Valar (22:37:43):    Aye.
Eonwe Valar (22:39:45):    That recent post is looking more like someone trying to get people to click on a link than a legitimate question to me.
Varda Valar (22:40:23):    ugh, hope not
Varda Valar (22:41:45):    6 of us on LotRO atm :)
Eonwe Valar (22:41:59):    The more I look at it, the more that's what I think it is.
Varda Valar (22:42:01):    Miriel is posting some Anniv screenshots to Discord.
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:42:07):    Seems suspiciously like it, yes.
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:42:21):    Spammer of sorts.
Varda Valar (22:42:27):    It does look questionable
Eonwe Valar (22:42:53):    Don't be surprised if the post disappears, heh.
Eonwe Valar (22:45:52):    Afk for a moment.
Eonwe Valar (22:59:20):    Back.
Varda Valar (23:04:12):    Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (23:04:26):    Heya :}
Varda Valar (23:04:31):    It is time for the meeting. How many do we have awake at the moment? :
Eonwe Valar (23:05:06):    I am, also working on getting the WoW 20th Anniversary pictures up.
Varda Valar (23:05:22):    I was too :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:05:30):    I'm here, though also doing the class quests for my next druid champion, in the Broken Shore questline.
Varda Valar (23:05:35):    Miriel sent in some more, and I have not yet put up Lenwe's.
Varda Valar (23:05:45):    Three, yay!
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:05:50):    I'll see about Arien.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:06:19):    Oh, she's also in the room.. I guess I could poke her in bnet but I wonder if that would alert her more than simply chatting here would.
Varda Valar (23:06:34):    She's in LotRO
Varda Valar (23:06:41):    I'll mention to her
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:06:40):    Correct, she's not on bnet :D
Varda Valar (23:06:53):    but I need to get on LotRO, heh. No hardship
Arien V (23:10:24):    hai :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:10:34):    Aiya :)
Varda Valar (23:10:39):    hehe - Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (23:11:28):    Heya.
Arien V (23:13:05):    aiya :)

Varda Valar (23:13:07):    Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Varda Valar (23:13:10):    Membership:
Varda Valar (23:13:36):    This is the final day of the 20th Anniversary of the Valar Guild chat marathon. Thank you all for participating!
Varda Valar (23:13:51):    Those of whom I am aware are being credited on the Anniversary page.
Varda Valar (23:14:01):    Please let me know if I missed someone. :)
Varda Valar (23:17:52):    Thank you for participating in the chat marathon.
Varda Valar (23:18:07):    Screenshots of the anniversary are being added as we speak, with more to come.
Eonwe Valar (23:18:25):    Sadly, it'll be our last one in AIM.
Varda Valar (23:18:31):    Thranduil-Today at 4:18 PM
heya, just wanted to drop in and say hi. gotta run eat dinner
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:19:49):    Aiya Thranduil!
Varda Valar (23:20:20):    Relayed your aiya. :)
Varda Valar (23:21:11):    Arien, Fangorn, Elwing, and I are also in LotRO. So we are present in three places for this marathon last-day.
Varda Valar (23:21:29):    Feel free to also post on the forum thread and its shoutbox at the bottom

Varda Valar (23:22:35):    Web:
Varda Valar (23:23:03):    Of course we have the Anniversary page updating as we speak, and the Games Site updating right now with images.
Varda Valar (23:23:42):
Varda Valar (23:25:14):    Stories:
Varda Valar (23:25:26):    This week we have a new one from Arien: Into the Light:
Varda Valar (23:25:29):
Varda Valar (23:26:31):    The State of Valar Gaming is on the Games Site and linked to the Anniversary page.
Varda Valar (23:26:58):    Elladan-Today at 4:25 PM
Eonwe Valar (23:27:34):    Old State of Valar Gaming Reports were put up on the Games Site with Update 9, for anyone interested in past reports.
Varda Valar (23:28:02):    They are also available on the News page at the bottom in the table.
Varda Valar (23:28:14):    Elladan-Today at 4:27 PM
nice! You could add me to steam also
Varda Valar (23:28:37):    hah, I have to be sure to cut out Discord smileys when reposting here. ouch.
Eonwe Valar (23:28:48):    And heya to Elladan and the giant smiley face :}
Varda Valar (23:29:09):    Wasn't it Scatha handling the Steam group?
Eonwe Valar (23:29:29):    Aye, it was. No response from him to the GSMU for this year.
Varda Valar (23:30:48):    In Steam he's: STEvil of Big Game Hunters
Varda Valar (23:31:06):    That's not good.
Eonwe Valar (23:31:40):    ?
Varda Valar (23:32:12):    Not good to hear our Steam guy isn't answering, right when we had a request for it.
Eonwe Valar (23:32:24):    Ah.
Varda Valar (23:33:00):    Maha-Today at 4:31 PM
I am currently uploading the screen shots from the early LotRO 20th, placing them in our #screenshots text channel
Varda Valar (23:34:34):    From our Discord group. They've heard concerns mentioned about collecting the transcript.
Varda Valar (23:34:52):    One, it can be simply copy/pasted from there to whatever we want.
Varda Valar (23:35:10):    Then there are programs that can be used. I'll try to locate them all, sec.
Varda Valar (23:35:37):    Elladan-Yesterday at 7:30 AM
@Varda here is the way to save discord transcripts I believe.
Varda Valar (23:37:17):    ahh,this is the same one a while back
Varda Valar (23:37:20):   
That might work for you
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:38:05):    Seems interesting.
Varda Valar (23:39:04):    Anyway, something to consider.
Varda Valar (23:39:18):    Any other web comments?
Varda Valar (23:40:37):    Also, we're open to more suggestions on handling the Discord trancripts.
Varda Valar (23:40:41):    We have time. :)
Varda Valar (23:42:01):    Then there's just looking back on the scroll in the meeting_place channel.

Varda Valar (23:42:40):    Gaming:
Varda Valar (23:42:49):    Eonwe has the games reort for us. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:43:06):    Thanks :}
Varda Valar (23:43:09):    *report

Eonwe Valar (23:43:47):    World of Warcraft:
Eonwe Valar (23:44:17):    Check out the Q&A VoD that happened earlier this week.
Eonwe Valar (23:44:38):    More new hotfixes are out, as always :}
Eonwe Valar (23:44:52):    This week's bonus event is for Legion Dungeons.

Eonwe Valar (23:45:12):    Heroes of the Storm:
Eonwe Valar (23:45:31):    Heroes of the Storm got some hotfixes as well.

Eonwe Valar (23:45:46):    Diablo 3:
Eonwe Valar (23:46:03):    Make sure you've got your desired rewards for this season because it will be ending October 20th.

Eonwe Valar (23:46:27):    On WoW Lothar this week: Eonwe, Bofur, Eowyn were spotted.

Eonwe Valar (23:47:10):    Other Bnet News: As mentioned during the week, the current beta version of bnet includes testing out some features, among them Appear Offline (which has been asked for since forever) and Groups.
Eonwe Valar (23:47:49):    Whether these group will be limited to the specific regions or not is right now not mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
Eonwe Valar (23:48:46):    To the extent anyone is interested in or able to do so, I'll go ahead and make a Group for the Valar Guild on Bnet when it's live.
Eonwe Valar (23:49:23):    These groups look to me alot like Discord looks and sounds like, so take that for what you will.

Eonwe Valar (23:50:40):    Bonus News:
Eonwe Valar (23:50:57):
Eonwe Valar (23:51:14):    oops, one sec...
Eonwe Valar (23:51:43):
Eonwe Valar (23:51:50):    There, link fixed.
Eonwe Valar (23:52:05):    Layout might need some tweaking, but there you go.
Varda Valar (23:53:06):    Thank you. Also being posted in Discord
Eonwe Valar (23:54:47):    That does it for my report.
Varda Valar (23:54:53):    Link now up on the Anniversary page too.
Eonwe Valar (23:54:53):    And MP
Varda Valar (23:54:57):    Thank you, Eonwe!
Varda Valar (23:55:04):    That was a lot.

Varda Valar (23:56:10):    LotRO Valarites showing up in kin this past week:
Varda Valar (23:56:24):   
Varda Valar (23:57:13):    SC2: Eowyn, Fangorn
Varda Valar (23:57:21):    SCBW: Fangorn, Varda
Varda Valar (23:57:29):    Any others to post here?
Varda Valar (23:58:41):    Any further business, comments, suggestions, intentions to post something this October for the Anniversary? :)
Monday, October 9, 2017
Varda Valar (00:00:17):    Miriel is still posting more screenies, with special effects added. Think you'll enjoy them when you get to see them. :)

Varda Valar (00:00:21):    Tolkien:
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:00:25):    Well, if you want themed screenshots from Warcraft, the victory picture over Kil'jaeden I linked last week should do, though the only recognizable person in there is me.
Varda Valar (00:00:52):    The forum story has updated. Feel free to check it out and see if you can add to it.
Varda Valar (00:01:02):    Thank you, Phar. :)
Varda Valar (00:01:30):    Maha-Today at 5:00 PM [Note: Miriel posting from Discord]
My input on meeting transcript: Once a meeting is called to order and participants are listed (please remember you may edit/add to your previous msg by using the edit function per chat entered) You may come back and highlight all of the chat and ctrl+c to copy and then ctrl+v to paste into a document/mail/what ever you like (remove formating for plain text).
Varda Valar (00:04:47):    Sauron-(Valar) says hi! He's passing rl popcorn around.
Arien V (00:04:59):    *steals*
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:05:13):    eeeevil popcorn?
Varda Valar (00:05:26):    yes, for diabetics. ;)
Eonwe Valar (00:05:31):    Heya to Sauron :} Glad he's passing rl popcorn around. If he were passing digitla popcorn to real people, I'd say you all are in the Matrix :}
Eonwe Valar (00:05:38):    *digital
Varda Valar (00:05:54):    No worries. *passes popcorn around to your imaginations*
Eonwe Valar (00:06:00):    :}
Varda Valar (00:07:43):    These games kind of are the matrix
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:08:00):    Except for the self-awareness? :)
Varda Valar (00:08:32):    We are all Neo? :)
Arien V (00:08:34):    Thanks Sauron :)
Eonwe Valar (00:08:39):    "If we wanted to we could shut these machines off..."
Varda Valar (00:08:45):    Noooo
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:09:07):    But we don't want to, so the point's moot!
Eonwe Valar (00:09:09):    I've got that scene in my mind now :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:09:36):    moot as an ent
Arien V (00:10:22):    hrooom hrroom rum tata tata booom
Varda Valar (00:10:27):    :)
Varda Valar (00:10:46):    Feel free to post a bit of the entmoot as your Tolkien Moment.
Eonwe Valar (00:11:21):    The sun rises on the mooting of the Ents? :}
Arien V (00:11:53):    maybe it helps growing new Entings :)?
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:12:04):    not a bad idea, I'll grab the book
Varda Valar (00:12:29):    Please say something before posting a Tolkien Moment so we don't cross up. :)
Arien V (00:20:24):    I ve got something :)
Varda Valar (00:20:42):    Fire away. Still typing mine up. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:22:11):    I've got a choice between 2 surrounding the entmoot...
Varda Valar (00:23:44):    You can type them both into notepad while Arien is putting hers up.
Varda Valar (00:23:56):    Mine's ready to go after Arien.

Arien V (00:28:20):    "At first Merry and pipin were struck chiefly by the variety they saw: the many shapes, and colours, the differences in girth, and height and lenth of leg and arm, and in the number of toes and fingers (anything from three to nine*. A few seemed more or less related to Treebeard, and reminded them of bech-trees or oaks. But there were other kinds. " ..
Arien V (00:28:26):    a bit further down
Arien V (00:31:58):    "But when the Ents all gatherered round Treebeard's, bowing trheir heads slightly and talking in their low musical voicews, and looking intently at the strangers,, then the hobbits saw that they were all of the same kindred, all had the same eyes: not all so old or deep as Treebeard's , burt all with the same slow, steady, thoughtful expressions, and the same green flicker."
Arien V (00:32:06):    quote finish

Ar-Pharazon-V (00:32:26):    Funny, that's the bit right before one of the moments I'm about to give :D
Varda Valar (00:32:53):    Nice, like a theme going. :)
Varda Valar (00:35:28):    Fire when ready, Phar.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:36:53):    Alright, here's the first one:

Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:12):    "As soon as the whole company was assembled, standing in a wide circle around Treebeard, a curious and unintelligible conversation began. The Ents began to murmur slowly: first one joined and then another, until they were all chanting together in a long rising and falling rhythm, now louder on one side of the ring, now dying away there and rising to a great boom on the other side.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:28):    Though he could not catch or understand any of the words - he supposed the language was Entish - Pippin found the sound very pleasant to listen to at first; but gradually his attention wavered.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:37):    After a long time (and the chant showed no sign of slackening) he found himself wondering, since Entish was such an 'unhasty' language, whether they had yet got further than Good Morning; and if Treebeard was to call the roll, how many days it would take to sing all their names. 'I wonder what the Entish is for yes or no,' he thought."
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:41):    end quote

Ar-Pharazon-V (00:38:16):    I just liked the way the Entish conversation is described, almost like a song, and of course there is the likely exaggeration by Pippin about how long things take, repeated in a way in the movie :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:39:37):    Typing up the second now, feel free to put yours in first.
Varda Valar (00:41:42):    If yours is more on the moot, we can let it go up next. Mine is well away from that. And so is Eonwe's which he left in a side note, as he has to leave.
Varda Valar (00:41:46):    Namarie, Eonwe!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:41:58):    Namarie!
Arien V (00:42:11):    Namarie Eonwe :)
Eonwe Valar (00:42:12):    Sorry my friends, but I must now go. The realm of "the Real" calls for my attention, to refer back to our Matrix conversation earlier :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:42:23):    Good luck!
Varda Valar (00:42:29):    Namarie for now!
Eonwe Valar (00:42:42):    I'll leave my computer up until tonight. Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :} and Happy Anniversary :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:42:59):    Happy anniversary!
Varda Valar (00:43:02):    Nice for the scroll back. No waiting on the transcript!
Varda Valar (00:43:08):    Happy 20th!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:43:15):    Is that in Discworld - I mean Discord - too?
Arien V (00:43:34):    *giggles*
Arien V (00:44:52):    yes indeed you can .. i mean you can try to iron it up of course but you might end up with a flat cord instead of a Diskord :)
Varda Valar (00:45:15):    :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:46:12):    Right, here's my second one. Not too long after the first one, but a nice confirmation of something we already knew, but a lot more concrete than I knew was available.
Varda Valar (00:46:31):    Sounds good.

Ar-Pharazon-V (00:46:31):    "'Will you really break the doors of Isengard?' asked Merry.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:46:40):    'Ho, hm, well, we could, you know! You do not know, perhaps, how strong we are. Maybe you have heard of Trolls? They are mighty strong. But Trolls are only counterfeits, made by the Enemy in the Great Darkness, in mockery of Ents, as Orcs were of Elves.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:46:53):    We are stronger than Trolls. We are made of the bones of the earth. We can split stone like the roots of trees, only quicker, far quicker, if our minds are roused! If we are not hewn down, or destroyed by fire or blast of sorcery, we could split Isengard into splinters and crack its walls into rubble.'"
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:47:10):    end quote!

Varda Valar (00:48:08):    Very good!
Varda Valar (00:49:59):    You have a lot of good items there. The power of the Ents, for one.
Varda Valar (00:50:02):    But Trolls are only counterfeits, made by the Enemy in the Great Darkness, in mockery of Ents, as Orcs were of Elves.
Varda Valar (00:50:10):    and that. Much to consider there.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:50:19):    Yes. That was the bit I referred to at the start.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:50:50):    Interesting to think how a tree is so much stronger than a rock :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:51:09):    I guess paper beats rock after all!
Varda Valar (00:51:13):    True. Maybe we should keep this from the dwarves?
Varda Valar (00:51:16):    hah!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:51:18):    hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:51:31):    Soon they'll want treehouses like the elves.
Varda Valar (00:53:46):    Stone platforms that look like them, up on stalagmites?
Varda Valar (00:54:24):    Here's a quote along the lines of our anniversary theme, perseverance or triumph over adversity:

Varda Valar (00:54:58):    Silmarillion "Of the Flight of the Noldor" last paragraph.
Varda Valar (00:55:08):    Then Fingolfin seeing that Feanor had left him to perish in Araman or return in shame to Valinor was filled with bitterness; but he desired now as never before to come by some way to Middle-earth, and meet Feanor again.
Varda Valar (00:55:18):    And he and his host wandered long in misery, but their valour and endurance grew with hardship; for they were a mighty people, the elder children undying of Eru Iluvatar, but new-come from the Blessed Realm, and not yet weary with the weariness of Earth.
Varda Valar (00:55:28):    The fire of their hearts was young, and led by Fingolfin and his sons, and by Finrod and Galadriel, they dared to pass into the bitterest North; and finding no other way they endured at last the terror of the Helcaraxe and the cruel hills of ice.
Varda Valar (00:55:37):    Few of the deeds of the Noldor thereafter surpassed that desperate crossing in hardihood or woe.
Varda Valar (00:55:47):    There Elenwe the wife of Turgon was lost, and many others perished also; and it was with a lessened host that Fingolfin set foot at last upon the Outer Lands.
Varda Valar (00:55:56):    Small love for Feanor or his sons had those that marched at last behind him, and blew their trumpets in Middle-earth at the first rising of the Moon.
Varda Valar (00:56:02):    ./endquote

Varda Valar (00:56:24):    That has a lot of the Viking courage and cold lands of JRRT's interests, too.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:57:08):    I imagine Fingolfin would've punched his half-brother in the face if he'd had the chance.
Varda Valar (00:57:19):    For sure.
Varda Valar (00:57:42):    Eonwe left us a quote for our ending time.
Varda Valar (00:58:11):    Speaking of the Valar Guild as well as the books:

Varda Valar (00:58:16):    "There Iluvatar permitted the Valar to maintain upon the Earth an abiding place, a memorial of that which might have been if Morgoth had not cast his shadow upon the world."
Varda Valar (00:58:19):    /endquote

Varda Valar (01:06:27):    Does anyone have any further comment, suggestion, business?
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:06:42):    just glad I made up for last week by giving 2 ;)
Varda Valar (01:06:50):    Yay!
Varda Valar (01:07:13):    *a long line of hammers troops ups solemenly from the conveyor shelf*
Varda Valar (01:07:27):    *one presents itself to the chairperson*
Varda Valar (01:07:38):    *kabooooom!*
Varda Valar (01:07:51):    *the hammer is let down on the table*
Varda Valar (01:08:18):    *all the hammers pop out tiny arms and hands and salute the Valar Guild and the hammerpad*
Varda Valar (01:08:32):    *they march back to the conveyor pad and away*

Varda Valar (01:08:37):    After-meeting!
Arien V (01:08:39):    look! they form a 20 in the sky!
Varda Valar (01:08:40):    Free chat.
Varda Valar (01:08:42):    ahhhh
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:08:45):    So they've got legs as well?
Arien V (01:09:11):    Happy anniversary :D#
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:09:41):    Happy anniversary! *salutes hammers*
Varda Valar (01:09:49):    They do. Or they can pogo-stick solemnly. I'll go with legs.
Varda Valar (01:10:04):    ./salute hammers, hammerpad
Varda Valar (01:10:10):    ./salute Valar Guild
Arien V (01:10:26):    for me it has to be pogo sticks *boing boing boing * twenty times
Arien V (01:10:59):    to the next twenty :)
Varda Valar (01:11:51):    Huzzah!
Varda Valar (01:11:59):    ./toast
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:12:05):    Yes, 20 more!
Varda Valar (01:12:17):    More cheerful, aye, Arien. :)
Varda Valar (01:12:54):    We have a lot of people in Discord, although not as active chatting for meetings. Maybe with you all there, it will improve.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:14:06):    With us there, it'd better!
Varda Valar (01:14:23):    Quite right. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:21:03):    Right, let's get a start on the gaming report.

Ar-Pharazon-V (01:21:57):    Flashgames:
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:27:18): is the first, a rather interesting looking simulation game where you can play one of various zoo animals, broken loose in a highly destructible 3d environment. Quite a bit of graphic effort has gone into it, and it seems quite funny so far :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:29:42): is a puzzle game that I myself can't quite get the hang of. You need to place pairs of numbers on a sort of wheel, making sure to get 3 of the same number in a row that will then fuse, to complete the levels.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:29:59):    or well, get the most points :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:34:10): is the third! An aiming and upgrade game where you have to take down series of tanks on towers to get gold, and use the gold to get more powerful, before they take you down in their turns.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:35:58):    Though it seems the upgrades might only be temporary? That gives a bit more of a tactical feel to it if you get far enough.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:36:04):    Try it and find out for yourself!
Arien V (01:49:13):    another time :)
Arien V (01:49:47):    for me it is time to move to bed i think :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:49:52):    Namarie!
Arien V (01:51:17):    Namarie
Varda Valar (01:57:11):    Namarie, Sunshine

Ar-Pharazon-V (02:02:42):    Blizzard gaming:
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:04:23):    Level 222 in Heroes of the Storm now, with a few new items from chests. Continuing on the Pachimari event: on the last quest for 10 golden pachimaris now, with 5 to go and just over a week before event ends. A bit of a close call, perhaps, but we usually get 2 a day so it'll be fine.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:05:44):    This week's brawl was the Mage War again, with me able to choose one of my favorite casters in both games, Li-Ming, and switching one talent that benefits me particulary well in a player vs player game versus other mages, so it was perfect for that brawl.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:07:15):    Hearthstone: Still slowly pushing my classes to 51. Still a few further behind than I'd like, but it always works out with some liberal quest-choosing.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:09:55):    This week's brawl was an interesting one, build a deck for a class that only uses basic cards and common/rare cards from the classic set. Back to some old-school strategies! I also had a priest class card quest at the time I made my deck, so I built a rather random one made of nothing but priest cards, no neutrals. It actually did rather well, and when I got a quest to win 5 brawl games it did enough to complete it without any revision necessary.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:10:06):    Occasionally, I can make a decent deck without having to look it up ;)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:10:46):    WoW:
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:12:18):    Got heroic Kil'jaeden down in 3 attempts this week, very nice. Our raid's dps seems to have increased by quite a bit, possibly due to the Crucible thing I don't personally have access to yet, actually. So I'm not actually sure how that mechanic works.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:14:13):    Also got a few good pieces of loot upgrades, but not all of those from the raid.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:15:39):    Cataclysm raid pet hunt still continuing, got myself a faceless minion from Dragon Soul, and now have all pets from that raid.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:19:45):    Falcosaur quests continuing as well, now one quest away from finishing the first pet's quests. After that's done I'll also be able to unlock a new faction for which some pvping is necessary. That'll be interesting. And annoying.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:21:24):    But with another mount at the end of it.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:24:56):    And along the questline I also get a few new rare pets I caught while battling, and that's always nice :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:27:35):    Finished up with Darkmoon Faire for this month, 2 to go for the zeppelin mount, as I'm now over 500 tickets.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:36:52):    Did Trial of Valor one more time, and got the last Valarjar souls I needed for the quest. So I'm done there now, with a new transmog set as reward!
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:38:42):    Also poked Mythic Highmaul back in Draenor, and got the belt I wanted for my dps transmog set. So I can leave that place behind for now as well.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:41:50):    Went to the Wailing Caverns for the challenge mode for the pet dungeon for the first time. Took a while, but doable, but alas, no pet from the reward bag. Looks like I'll be going there a while longer.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:42:07):    Did get a new one from merely finishing it though!
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:43:08):    And then there's the Broken Shore.
(Varda Valar (02:45:29):    New fireworks added to the Anniversary page. From Miriel and Lenwe.)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:45:49):    Did 2 more invasions through the Broken Shore questline, completing all but Stormheim. Waiting for that next.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:48:17):    On the Broken Shore itself I witnessed the Nether Disruptor going active (for me), but there doesn't seem to be a great advantage to be had from that one. No achievements or appearances.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:48:38):    Except for a world boss going up, but no further effort required to access that.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:53:50):    Did a bunch more quests there, world quests but also normal ones, visiting the flightpoints, learning more about the area, and starting a smaller questline by a goblin who gives one quest every day that will eventually lead to a cave full of treasure.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:54:43):    Also completed the quest that took me into the Broken Shore 5-man instance, the cathedral. Interesting place, takes place on top of the raid instance, as you can see the staging area for that down below the balcony.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:56:02):    And, also in the Broken Shore questline, I had a new chapter of class quests, which got me a new class hall champion, opened up new order advancement options, and got me exalted with the faction!
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:56:35):    From here on any reputation I get with them will go to paragon supply rewards, which can contain a new pet.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:56:53):    Hmm, what else...
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:57:51):    Ah yes, got a few missions sent out for the 500 supplies, that'll really help me with the overall goal of 15000. Getting the new champion, and indeed a seventh champion slot through the order advancement, will help a lot with those kinds of missions, and others too, since the new champion will also need to be leveled and geared up :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:59:23):    And finally there was the weekly quest to do 4 mythics. Got a new upgrade from the reward for that, but the mythic instances I chose were the ones I need patterns from still, but didn't get any of those. Oh well!
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:00:49):    And I think that's the end of my report!
Ar-Pharazon-V (04:10:10):    namarie, transcript probably coming tomorrow!
Varda Valar (04:10:27):    Thank you, Phar :)