Sunday, March 9, 2025
5:00pm Eastern Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place
Attending: Arien, Eonwe, Sandalf, Varda (presiding), Xavier
Topic: JRRT loved to hike. Is there any indication of that in his writing?
[March 9, 2025
[12:06 PM]Varda: Daylight Savings Time hits Eastern today. It is right now 1:06 PM EDT.
[12:06 PM]Sandalf13: It is 1106 here.
[12:18 PM]Varda: Yes, check your time and then figure what it is in Eastern. 5pm Eastern is meeting time.
[3:42 PM]Varda: Meeting in about 20 minutes.
[3:59 PM]Sandalf13: Aiya! Aiya! Aiya! Hello.
[4:01 PM]Varda: Aiya Sandalf : )
[4:02 PM]Varda: @Bounder @Guild-friend Valar Guild meeting time! Come on over to meeting_place and say hi!
[4:02 PM]Varda: Elen sila lumen' omentielvo!
[4:02 PM]Varda: A star shines on the hour of our meeting.
[4:02 PM]Varda: Membership:
[4:02 PM]Eönwë Valar: Heya.
[4:02 PM]Varda: Aiya Sandalf and Eonwe : )
[4:03 PM]Sandalf13: Aiya Eonwe!
[4:03 PM]Varda: Today is Daylight Savings Time for Eastern time, which happens to be Valar time, so congratulations for being here!
[4:04 PM]Sandalf13: Set all the clocks forward last night before retiring.
[4:04 PM]Varda: Very good.
[4:05 PM]Varda: Web News:
[4:05 PM]Varda: New! March 3: Game Review of "Yars Rising", by Eonwe.
[4:06 PM]Varda: That could also go in Gaming news, but it's crowded enough. ; )
[4:06 PM]Varda: Thank you, Eonwe, for a lot of effort there.
[4:06 PM]Eönwë Valar: MP.
[4:07 PM]Eönwë Valar: Short version: it's a fun game. If you want to know how fun, you'll have to read the review :}
[4:08 PM]Varda: Pardon, go ahead. : )
[4:08 PM]Eönwë Valar: That was pretty much it :}
[4:10 PM]Varda: Gaming News:
[4:10 PM]Varda: Just got a message from Falco:
[4:10 PM]Varda: 4:06 PM]ICT3D: I'm at Disney on Ice with the grandkids. I've got 1 transfer complete to peregrine and 1 pending. Once those are done I will start moving the rest to the other server. All my mains are on peregrine
[4:11 PM]Varda: He's talking about the LotRO transfer there. We can talk more about that later.
[4:11 PM]Varda: Eonwe, would you like this finely crafted gavel for Gaming?
[4:12 PM]Sandalf13: Ah...The LOTRo transfer.
[4:12 PM]Varda: No worries, Sandalf. Doesn't affect you. : )
[4:12 PM]Sandalf13: No doubt.
[4:12 PM]Eönwë Valar: Sure.
[4:13 PM]Varda: gavel spins into the air, releasing multi-colored sparks, then lands before Eonwe
[4:14 PM]Eönwë Valar: World of Warcraft:
[4:14 PM]Eönwë Valar: This week's bonus events: Pet Battles and Battlegrounds.
[This week's PvP Brawl: Cooking Impossible.
[4:14 PM]Eönwë Valar: Season 2 has begun.
[4:15 PM]Eönwë Valar: Check out the raid schedule for Liberation of Undermine.
[4:16 PM]Eönwë Valar: Update 11.1 just came out two weeks ago, and Season 2 just started this week, but we already have Update 11.1.5 coming to the PTR.
[4:16 PM]Eönwë Valar: Could've given us a couple of weeks to breathe in the Season 2 air before announcing that, but there we are :}
[4:17 PM]Varda: heh, breathing is overrated?
[4:17 PM]Eönwë Valar: hehe
[4:17 PM]Sandalf13: The first thing we do on Earth, and the last...
[4:18 PM]Varda: (Rating just went up.)
[4:18 PM]Eönwë Valar: I'll say there's some interesting things in there, like the return of Horrific Visions (the system precursor to Delves).
[4:19 PM]Eönwë Valar: I'm interested to see how they're implemented this time around.
[4:20 PM]Eönwë Valar: Phase 3 on WoW's 20th Anniversary Edition servers begins March 20th.
[4:21 PM]Eönwë Valar: Check out WoW Weekly for anything not mentioned above.
[4:21 PM]Eönwë Valar: Check out this week's hotfixes.
[4:21 PM]Eönwë Valar: Diablo 4:
[4:23 PM]Eönwë Valar: Looks like I had a typo on the campfire chat mentioned last week. It was March 7th, so you can check out what was mentioned here.
[4:24 PM]Eönwë Valar: Since it was about the 2.2.0 Update, you can also see what you need to know here.
[4:25 PM]Eönwë Valar: Check out the patch notes for info on this week's updates.
[4:25 PM]Eönwë Valar: Diablo Immortal: Check out the recent bug fixes.
[4:25 PM]Eönwë Valar: Diablo 2: Ladder Season 10 has begun.
[4:25 PM]Eönwë Valar: Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:26 PM]Eönwë Valar: Update 43.0.1 is out this week.
[4:28 PM]Eönwë Valar: And of course the journey to the 64-bit realm is ongoing :} Varda's been keeping us up-to-date all week in Harbor, so I won't belabor anything here :}
[4:29 PM]Eönwë Valar: And with my Yars Rising Review already mentioned, that's it for gaming news from me :}
[4:30 PM]Varda: Thank you!
[4:30 PM]Sandalf13: Thanks!
[4:30 PM]Varda: Starcraft 2:
[4:30 PM]Varda: Gaming this past week: Eowyn, Fangorn, Floppa, and Varda.
[4:31 PM]Varda: Back to belaboring LotRO: : )
[4:31 PM]Varda: Aiya Xavier! Go ahead.
[4:32 PM]Xavier: Hi everyone
[4:32 PM]Varda: Aiya Xavier : )
[4:33 PM]Varda: To the kin, Fainan has not yet completed a transfer. Still working on it.
[4:34 PM]Sandalf13: Aiya Xavier
[4:34 PM]Varda: Be sure to bring in all your characters to refresh them before the transfer, just to help. Not required.
[4:36 PM]Varda: I keep seeing Xavier typing, but then nothing happens. Just go ahead and break in!
[4:37 PM]Xavier: I have my kin on Peregrin now so I'll help any that asks or if I don't know what to do I'll find someone that can if issues come up for transfer
[4:37 PM]Varda: Thank you! Very kind. : )
[4:38 PM]Varda: Tough typing on a phone into Discord.
[4:40 PM]Varda: It's ok for those of you who have not transferred yet to play on Landroval or whatever old server, even a good idea. I've been asked about that.
[4:41 PM]Varda: Until a kin leader transfers successfully, the kin apparatus for auto-kinning all members (including time in kin) is not yet set up. If this happens to you, once the kin does appear, request an invitation from an officer.
[4:41 PM]Varda: Oh, that mass of stuff about LotRO in our Harbor channel is my fault for putting the official announcements on Follow.
[4:42 PM]Varda: Once we transfer, that will be stopped. : )
[4:42 PM]Varda: Any other questions, requests, comments?
[4:43 PM]Varda: On to
[4:43 PM]Varda: Tolkien!
[4:44 PM]Varda: JRRT loved to hike. Is there any indication of that in his writing? : )
[4:44 PM]Varda: mounds of paper fall into the channel
[4:47 PM]Eönwë Valar: Bilbo's walking song, what Bilbo told Frodo about leaving his front door...
[4:48 PM]Varda: Aye. And it changed all through the LotR books, as the situation changed.
[4:49 PM]Sandalf13: Frodo's thoughts while walking through the Shire on the way to Crickhollow...before running into the Black Riders.
[4:50 PM]Varda: The very detailed descriptions of the hobbits leaving the Shire going through the back ways.
[4:50 PM]Sandalf13: Tom Bombadil striding through the Old Forest.
[4:51 PM]Arien Valar: hides behind glittering stars
[4:51 PM]Sandalf13: Arien walking through the Highlands...ooops, wait a minute...
[4:51 PM]Varda: Aiya Sunshine : )
[4:52 PM]Sandalf13: Aiya Arien!
[4:52 PM]Varda: The race of Ents.
[4:52 PM]Arien Valar: aiya
[4:52 PM]Varda: JRRT really loved trees. : )
[4:52 PM]Arien Valar: oh i understand that completely
[4:53 PM]Varda: ☼
[4:53 PM]Sandalf13: There is a legend about his writing letters bemoaning the removal of a tree in his neighborhood that gave so much pleasure to so many over so many years...all for "improvements." Sounds a bit like Sharkey, heh?
[4:53 PM]Varda: "Leaf by Niggle"
[4:54 PM]Eönwë Valar: Tom Bombadil striding through the Old Forest.... And Aragorn bombadilling through Lothlorien?
[4:54 PM]Arien Valar: which is why he introduced the ents fighting back in part two of Lotr btw ... He and his brother used to play in a forest with beautiful willows and other kinds which was felled down and lieing left to rot
[4:54 PM]Varda: Ugh
[4:54 PM]Sandalf13: Ha ha
[4:54 PM]Arien Valar: sounds familiar doesn t it?
[4:54 PM]Sandalf13: I would like to bombadil sometime...sounds like great fun.
[4:55 PM]Varda: Being left to rot doesn't. At least Saruman used them for fuel.
[4:55 PM]Varda: (Bombadil is a quest-giver in LotRO.)
[4:55 PM]Arien Valar: or was it felled for industrial mprovements .. cant remember exactly
[4:56 PM]Sandalf13: Neither can I...will have to try and find it this week ahead...
[4:57 PM]Varda: It's expensive and a lot of work to take down trees. Generally need a strong reason. Will it come knock down the tower where you live, for instance?
[4:57 PM]Arien Valar: apparently that childhood area was transformed from a forested area for young boys into industrial area with factories which became known as "Blackland*, an area on the outskirts of Birmingham
[4:58 PM]Varda: Ohh, Blackland. Much like the Brown Lands where the Entwives used to be.
[4:59 PM]Arien Valar: uh aye and it was suggested that it was no coincidence that the main quarters and sort of homeland of Sauron , the enemy , became Mor dor
[4:59 PM]Arien Valar: which as we know is translated black land
[5:02 PM]Varda: Black Land, Land of Shadow
[5:02 PM]Varda: Sindarin, Quenya
[5:02 PM]Varda: Aye.
[5:03 PM]Sandalf13: Speaking of etymology....and I apologize if this bores all of you who probably already know this, but I am hoping Arien will get a kick out of it, since she lives in Scotland. I enjoy reading the books by Alexander McCall Smith, who lives in Edinburgh (I believe). In his series of Inspector Varg novels (a detective in the Sensitive Crimes Unit of the Stockholm (?) Police Force), there is frequent allusion to the word VARG, that means "wolf" in Swedish (and Norwegian and Danish). There is NO "warg" in German, that I am aware of, so I wonder if Tolkien, who knew a lot about Scandanavian literature, based his Wargs (which would be pronounced Vargs in German) from the Swedish word Varg. After all, Vargs are wolves...
[5:04 PM]Arien Valar: Probably
[5:04 PM]Sandalf13: And Wargs are sort of wolfy.
[5:05 PM]Arien Valar: i suspect so yes, Sandalf
[5:05 PM]Eönwë Valar: For fun: Wiktionary - wearg
[5:06 PM]Sandalf13: There you go....thanks, Eonwe!
[5:06 PM]Eönwë Valar: Found that from googling "warg meaning in german." Because questions need answers :}
[5:06 PM]Sandalf13: Yes...but that word got lost in German and was replaced with Wolf, as it was in English, a daughter-language of West Germanic proto-German.
[5:07 PM]Varda: We have reached the hour.
[5:09 PM]Eönwë Valar: Ah, but has the hour reached us?
[5:09 PM]Sandalf13: I think we sprang ahead of the hour.
[5:10 PM]Varda: Hey, Valar of Time!
[5:11 PM]Varda: gavel pogo-sticks very quickly to the hammerpad... Spwop! Hops very fast back to the shelf.
Thus ends this week's meeting. Come back and see us next week!
[5:11 PM]Varda: After-meeting!
[5:12 PM]Varda: Um, Vala of Seconds, I didn't mean speed up the hammer. Fine though.
[5:14 PM]Sandalf13: Neat word, sprang....English: I spring, I sprang, I have sprung....German: Ich springe, Ich sprang, Ich bin gesprungen.
[5:14 PM]Sandalf13: Those crazy irregular English verbs,
[5:15 PM]Eönwë Valar: Spring's spranging sprung.
[5:15 PM]Sandalf13: And springing we go....
[5:16 PM]Sandalf13: Tom Bombadil springing through the Old Forest?
[5:16 PM]Sandalf13: Although Aragorn bombadilling through Lothlorien takes the cake...
[5:19 PM]Eönwë Valar: :}
[5:20 PM]Sandalf13:
[5:22 PM]Eönwë Valar: Since we're in Aftermeeting, remember you have one week to dig out something green to wear.
[5:22 PM]Sandalf13: So Eonwe...if "to bombadil" becomes a verb, would be spell the present participle as 'bombadiling" or "bombadilling," because English occasionally addes the second consonant in front of the "ing" sufficx.
[5:22 PM]Varda: digs through wardrobe
[5:23 PM]Eönwë Valar: Then it's off to the Green Dragon YouTube - ZenSonia - Irish tavern lively music. St Patrick Day
[5:24 PM]Eönwë Valar: (Youtube threw that on my front page. Brand new computer so nothing to base anything on yet, heh.)
[5:25 PM]Varda: Bombadile would have one L. Bombadil would likely have two for the -ing.
[5:25 PM]Eönwë Valar: I would say "bombadilling", yes.
[5:26 PM]Sandalf13: In “The Adventure of Shoscombe Old Place” (Case Book), the name of the inn near Sir Robert Norberton's home is “The Green Dragon.” Without knowing how many “Green Dragon” Inns may have existed or still exist in the U.K., is it also a coincidence that the name of one of the local inns in Bywater, the Shire, is “The Green Dragon?" Taken from my Chapter One, Aragorn as Sherlock Holmes...
[5:26 PM]Eönwë Valar: Needs the extra "l" so you know we're not talking about the vicious bombadile.
[5:27 PM]Eönwë Valar: Also an extra "l" in the past tense "bombadilled".
[5:28 PM]Sandalf13: Very true.
[5:28 PM]Eönwë Valar: Has/have/had bombadilled. Has/have/had been bombadilling.
[5:31 PM]Sandalf13:
[A Poem by Sandalf:
[I've bombadilled and bombadilled through forests uncounted, Too many leaves unencumbered miscounted, Perhaps I ought to end this here, In case you closed my lines discounted.
[5:33 PM]Sandalf13: Hah. Take that, Tom.
[5:34 PM]Eönwë Valar: Heh.
[5:34 PM]Eönwë Valar: Well, my time to go has come. Take care all, good night, sleep well, have fun.
[5:35 PM]Sandalf13: Right back at you. Namarie, Eonwe!!
[5:35 PM]Eönwë Valar: Give the Peregrin server a good kick and let them know to let us in, heh.
[5:35 PM]Varda: considers the proper shoe or boot for the kick
[5:36 PM]Varda: Yay Sandalf poem!
[5:36 PM]Sandalf13: Make sure it has a pointy toe...I can lend you a pair of my old boots, if you need then, Varda...
[5:36 PM]Varda: Bombadillo gives us a clue.
[5:36 PM]Varda: Plenty of cowboy boots, no worries.
[5:37 PM]Eönwë Valar: Contemplate no longer Nintendo - Goomba's Shoe - A Goomba's Shoe, also known as the Kuribo's Shoe or Shoe, is a large, green-colored boot with a wind-up key sticking out of the back of it. It is worn by a Shoe Goomba. It is one of the most...
[5:39 PM]Eönwë Valar: And now I'm off.
[5:39 PM]Sandalf13: I too shall abscond, and bombadil over to Costco for some dinner...maybe i will drive.
[5:39 PM]Varda: Dancing and singing pickup truck!
[5:39 PM]Sandalf13: I have bombadilled enough outside for today. Namarie for now!
[5:40 PM]Varda: Enjoy dinner. : )
[5:40 PM]Sandalf13: Thanks! Until later!
[5:41 PM]Varda: Oops. Report for LotRO:
[5:41 PM]Varda: Players showing up in kin branches this past week by server:
Landroval branch
Crickhollow branch:
Treebeard branch:
Angmar branch:
Mordor branch:
[5:42 PM]Varda: As far as Peregrin goes, Arien is playing her placeholder character there. : )
[5:42 PM]Varda: Don't forget /joinchannel Valar
[6:01 PM]Arien Valar: Enjoy and Namarie
[6:06 PM]Varda: Namarie ☼
[6:58 PM]Varda: Regeneration Food x5 through March 13 Code: ELEVENSIES
Non-Flash-gaming by Ar-Pharazon coming later?