Valar Guild

May 7, 2023 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Time
Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern, which is Valar time and LotRO /servertime.]

Attending (and typed): (7)

rien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Eowyn, Pallando, Sandalf, Varda (presiding)
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    Phar's birthday was yesterday

    Lord of the Rings Online, World of Warcraft, Overwatch 2, Diablo 4, Diablo 2 Resurrected, Diablo Immortal, Hearthstone, EVE Online
    Topic: What kind of a place do you think of when you think of Middle-earth? First one in your head?
    (non) Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.



Varda — Yesterday at 4:00 PM

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:01 PM

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:01 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:01 PM

Varda — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
Good to see you all! : )
[4:02 PM]
@Bounder Valar Guild meeting and lurking time! Feel free to say hi, chat gaming and Tolkien!
[4:03 PM]
@Guild-friend Valar Guild meeting (and lurking) time! Come on in and say hi, chat gaming and Tolkien!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
You can ping both groups at once, you know.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Aiya Pallando
I did not know. Thanks!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Aiya Pallando!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
aiya Pallando

Varda — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
@Bounder @Guild-friend Testing double ping
[4:05 PM]
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Aiya all!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:06 PM


[4:06 PM]
Aiya Sandalf! Aiya Arien, Eonwe, Phar, and Pallando!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Aiya Sandalf!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
[4:07 PM]
See above and see me deleting the second Membership from the transcript.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
But then this statement won't make sense, nor will mine!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Ok, guess it can be left in. : )
[4:09 PM]
Make someone chuckle!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
aiya sandalf

Varda — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
Any other news? Getting the boxes fought into submission after moving? Other?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Pharazon's birthday yesterday!
That is, mine.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Happy Birthday (belatedly) Ar!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Huzzah! Happppy Birthday!!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:10 PM

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Yes. I am making progress with my boxes. Slow (very slow) but steady.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
Take that, boxes! Sandalf is winning!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
Little boxes, on the hillside ♪

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
I wish.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
If you're making progress and boxes aren't increasing, you are winning the Battle of the Boxes. : )



[4:12 PM]
No new News from me.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
I will get a picture for next week.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
I'd be happy to post news you email for the News page, so don't be shy!
[4:13 PM]
Cool. Maybe use a Sharpie to make a face on a box? ; )



[4:13 PM]
Eonwe has a report for us! Go go Eonwe!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
[4:15 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online:
Update 35.1.2 came out this week. ---
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Update 35.1.2 Release Notes
    Here are the release notes for Update 35.1.2, released on Wednesday, May 3rd, 2023.

[4:15 PM]

World of Warcraft:
This week's bonus event: Dragonflight Dungeons.

The Darkmoon Faire runs through Saturday, May 13th.

The PvP Brawl: Southshore vs. Tarren Mill is running through Tuesday, May 9th.

Turbulent Timeways: Wrath of the Lich King Timewalking is going.
[4:16 PM]
Embers of Neltharion is live. Check out the update notes and also this blog on all the fun stuff to collect. ---
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight: Embers of Neltharion Content Update Notes—Now Live! -...
    Dragonflight: Embers of Neltharion is live!
    World of Warcraft
    Embers of Neltharion Now Live! - WoW
    New mysteries wait to be unraveled within the mysterious underground of Zaralek Cavern, where you’ll explore, undertake new quests, meet intriguing new denizens, experience new Dragonriding updates, and more.
    World of Warcraft
    Embers of Neltharion Mounts, Pets, and More! - WoW
    There are many new pets, mounts, and toys to discover and add to your collection as you explore all that Embers of Neltharion has to offer.

[4:16 PM]
Check out Blues News. ---
    World of Warcraft
    Blues News: May 5, 2023 - WoW
    Stay up to date with World of Warcraft when you join us each week as we round up some of the latest top blue posts and discussions.

[4:16 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes. ---
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: May 5, 2023 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Dragonflight, Wrath of the Lich King Classic, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

[4:17 PM]

Overwatch 2:
New blog up: Director's Take - A Continued Look at Lifeweaver. ---
    Director's Take - A continued look at Lifeweaver:23948540
    Aaron Keller continues to explore into the development of Lifeweaver and how he grows in the Overwatch 2 metagame

[4:17 PM]

Diablo 4:
A Dev Livestream is coming May 10th. ---
    Tune in to the Next Diablo IV Developer Update Livestream
    Our next Developer Update Livestream detailing Diablo IV’s Post-Launch experience debuts on May 10 at 11 a.m. PDT. Save the date so you don’t miss out.

[4:17 PM]

Diablo 2 Resurrected:
Ladder Season 4 has begun. ---
    Diablo II: Resurrected Ladder Season 4 Now Live
    The fourth Ladder Season of Diablo II: Resurrected starts soon. Take in a plethora of quality-of-life updates and bug fixes and get ready to climb your way to Level 99.

[4:17 PM]

Diablo Immortal:
Check out the latest bug fixes. ---
    Diablo Immortal Bug Fixes and Patch Notes for All Platforms
    We will continually update this blog with all bug fixes and patches the team implements for Diablo Immortal on all platforms.

[4:17 PM]

Battlegrounds Season 4 starts May 9th. ---
    Announcing Battlegrounds Season 4!
    Battlegrounds Season 4 brings a new Hero, new mechanics, and over 55 new minions in a massive shakeup for the entire Battlegrounds mode!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:18 PM
For those interested, Diablo 4's final open beta/stresstest thingy is next weekend.
Last chance to get some unique rewards.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:18 PM
Also in LotRO news: Some Auros guy is now lvl 133 and snooping around in Beorning lands.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:19 PM

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
That's it from me. Gavel back to Varda.
    Vision Lifts Thor's Hammer Scene - Avengers: Age of Ultron - Movie ...

Varda — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
: )
[4:20 PM]
Pallando has some news for us about

Eve Online!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:21 PM
The Caldari and Gallente have now both completed their Stellar Transmuter Research, and the Caldari have completed construction of their Shipcaster.
    EVE Online
    The Scope | Caldari State Completes Interstellar Shipcaster Project

[4:21 PM]
Unfortunately it's a bit naff and most people are pretty disappointed in it.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:22 PM
Any chance of improvement?

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:22 PM
We'll see.

cenedra — Yesterday at 4:22 PM
Hi, Varda reminded me it was time to pop in here.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:23 PM

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
The relay tech race continues with both faction loyalists and neutral third-parties contributing. Minmatar remain in the lead but the Amarr have been making gains.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
Aiya Cenedra!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
aiya cenedra

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
In other news, EVE's 20th anniversary celebrations are continuing, and there was a big party in Jita yesterday. Unfortunately the time has passed to get your name on the Eve monument, so if you missed it you'll have to settle for waiting for the 30th anniversary.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
Aiya Eowyn : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
What's another decade?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
It should have Sauron's name on it. : )

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
just an elvish second pHARI

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
With the celebrations yesterday was a stream that revealed some details of the upcoming expansion in June, but nothing very definite yet, so we're still waiting on devblog details for things. We do know there will be t2 Dreads.
[4:26 PM]
If he reminds me in September, I'll find @Sauron's name when I go for FF.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Dreadnaughts, I assume. Dread in LotRO is something different. : )

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Dreadnoughts indeed.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
I dread t6he day I run into Dreads.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:27 PM
That would be amazing! And we'd love to see your name on there. Photo!
No worries. Fight with Hope!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:27 PM
Huh, I thought you were getting dreadlocks.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
We had a human character avatar update. Be interesting to see if they got those.

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
I think that covers all of the interesting stuff. The FRT war continue sin the north. Goons have pulled back for now, last I knew but I haven't been keeping a close eye on it.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
See? It could've been :)

Varda — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Get to look like Tank from the Matrix.
Goons pulled back. But sounds like you're ready in case!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
I'll be out next weekend at an EVE meetup, so I'm sure all the good news will release while I'm camping in the woods.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Was more thinking myself
    The New Systems Commonwealth Wiki
    Tyr Anasazi
    This article is about the character Tyr Anasazi. To view the article about the song, go here. "I am Tyr ... Anasazi of Kodiak Pride! Out of Victoria by Barborosa! And I ... will never ...

Varda — Yesterday at 4:29 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Gives you something to read when you get back

Varda — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Camping in the woods sounds wonderful!
[4:30 PM]
You're going to sneak a peek on your phone, aren't you? ; )

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 4:31 PM
I will be going into town at least once, so yes.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:31 PM
Jacket and vambraces I'll take, Phar.
hehe Pallando!

[4:35 PM]
A bit more on Lord of the Rings Online (you knew it was coming!):





[4:35 PM]
Falco is really barreling along on Crickhollow, leveling fast with his new Beorning.
[4:36 PM]
The LotRO Launcher news has not been showing. Trouble is not on your end, but in the upgrades. Related to that, they have rebuilt LotRO's Forum.
Need to re-register, same way as before.
Those of you with human characters, have you checked any of the character appearance changes?

For Shadowfax server folk: free transfers are available that can take your characters to any other servers whether EU or US, except Treebeard. Your characters are welcome in our kin branches on Landroval (main) or Crickhollow.
[4:37 PM]
After updates, to use our Valar friend channel, type /joinchannel Valar
Yes, that's one word.

Any other gaming news? Requests? Invitations needed?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:39 PM
That's any game. You have a batch of officers handy. This includes you lurkers!
[4:41 PM]



[4:42 PM]
What kind of a place do you think of when you think of Middle-earth? First one in your head?
[4:44 PM]
Hey, you're taking too long for it to be the first thought!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:44 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:44 PM
Oof, I really just picture the map as a whole... it takes effort to single out a single environment.
[4:45 PM]
But yeah, I suppose the forests of Eriador come to mind?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:45 PM
That works too. The whole map.
[4:46 PM]
Interesting. We have similar thoughts so far. The woods is what I thought of and realized they were in Eriador, Shire area.
[4:47 PM]
It was not Rivendell, or Moria, or Lorien popping up first for me, but Hobbit country!
Any other folks like to chime in? Same? Other?

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:48 PM
The North Downs

Varda — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
Wight country?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:50 PM
There might be a temporal element for me too. Third Age middle-earth isn't just middle-earth, but more a mishmash of several separate locations and environments. But if I have to put middle-earth itself in one picture, I'm forced to go back to the second age when it was mostly the same: humans living in shadow, and lots and lots more forest.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:52 PM
That's interesting. Second Age for you. Could have been an island... : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:52 PM
Ah, but I don't count Numenor as Middle-Earth

Varda — Yesterday at 4:52 PM
You have a point.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:53 PM
No...I like the loneliness and solitude of the northern reaches of Middle-earth. The North Downs always vaguely reminded me of the northlands of Dor-Lomin in the First Age. Snow-covered pine trees, and all that.
[4:54 PM]
And quiet. Lots of quiet. One can hear the snowflakes fall.
Even without elven hearing.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
ahh, nice!
Slightly iced snowflakes, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
Hmm, a bit like the environments in
    The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of ...
    The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king is a real-time strategy video game published by Electronic Arts, based on the Lord of the Rings film series based on the book, directed by Peter Jackson. The Rise of the Witch-king is the expansion to The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II, which was...

[4:54 PM]
I  like it.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:55 PM
You might like LotRO north of Rivendell then!
[4:56 PM]
Or around Thorin's Hall

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:56 PM
That would be nice too...The Blue Mountains are also intriguing.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:57 PM
LotRO researched biomes hard for their settings. The biologist and Tolkien fan in me appreciates that. Love to hear your take on the geology though.
Someday : )
[5:03 PM]
We have reached the hour!

gavels stealth through the woods
a long line, single track, follows them
the hammerpad races out, rolling on its side, down the line!
gavels jump and quickly tap!
tap tappity tap tap tap tap tap!



Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
If you go down in the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise ♪

Varda — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Feel free to continue chatting. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
today's the day that hammerpads have their picnic!

Varda — Yesterday at 5:06 PM

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
I must be off now. Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:08 PM

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
Namarie eonwe

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
NAmarie Eonwe!

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Planning on working on Sandalf's Chapter on Geopolitics soon.
[5:12 PM]
Will that be just over the Hobbit and LotR?

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Middle-earth as described in Chapter 3.
[5:13 PM]
No Beleriand. Gone. Sunk. Das ist gesunken.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Giant sink hole nods

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:20 PM
more like a giant twirl in fact dry or better wet because  there is sea where beleriand has been
[5:21 PM]
or just normal calm deep sea with an interesting sea ground
[5:22 PM]
if you think over the sunken coastland of britain   ever heard of Dodgerland , Sandalf?
[5:24 PM]
eerrr Doggerlands i mean
well  close enough dry

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:24 PM
Yes. The Dogger Banks. Very well-known geologically.
[5:25 PM]
I steamed over them several times, although one wouldn't notice them from the sea surface!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:25 PM
    Doggerland - The Europe That Was
    A map showing Doggerland, a region of northwest Europe that was home to Mesolithic people before rising sea levels inundated the area and created a Europe better resembling today's.

[5:26 PM]
[5:27 PM]
but there can be found the remains of villages and settlements on the old surface which now would be under water of course
archeologists have  been there

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:27 PM
That's where Atlantis was all along!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:28 PM
well these legends have to come from somewhere Phari

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:28 PM
Those sites are very close to the current shoreline. Glacial melting as increased sea-level along North Atlantic coastal areas by up to 600 feet!!! Since about 15,000 years ago.
[5:29 PM]
Tell me about it. Long Island, ,where I grew up, is a remnant terminal morraine of the Wisconsin Glaciation....It once formed a continuous landmass that included L.I., Block Island, all of Cape Cod, and Nantucket Island. Take a loot at your map of the east coast of North America, and you can see the connection.
[5:31 PM]
We used to play ice hockey on the frozen ponds of the glacial "kettle holes."

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:31 PM
Now that's playing with history.
[5:32 PM]
Or well, prehistory.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:33 PM
My current history requires me to go to Planet Fitness before they close, and then on to Costco for some dinner supplies before they close. I will return for Ar's report later. Please allow me to wish everyone a wonderful week to come! Namarie, all!
[5:34 PM]
I think I will rename my Chapter 4 as "The Geopolitics of Middle-earth in the Third Age, or Sauron as Otto von Bismarck."

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:35 PM

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:35 PM
Later, Digger!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:36 PM
Namarie 1
[5:42 PM]
Namarie !

cenedra — Yesterday at 5:55 PM

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 7:10 PM
Back!! Was ist neu?


Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:20 PM
Personal gaming report:
For (non)flashgaming, here's
    Soul Mirror
    Enter a mystical mirror realm and prove yourself worthy by facing the many platforming challenges and puzzles lying ahead.
    It is said that somewhere in the wo...

[7:22 PM]
A platformer with a simple premise: You've been sucked into a mirror, and have to platform with yourself and an intangible mirror version of yourself, switching places when needed. Eventually more mechanics show up that require either specific form to touch it, and timing becomes quite important
[7:24 PM]
But there's infinite lives and checkpoints at useful places, so with reflexes, memory, a lot of time and a bit of luck, you should eventually get it!
[7:25 PM]

Blizzard gaming:
[7:26 PM]
Level 57 on the reward track reached. Experience needed per level has gone up again, so it'll be a bit slow from this point.
[7:27 PM]
I did, however, get the Death Knight class to level 29.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:28 PM
Brawl is Yellow-Brick Brawl. Based on the Wizard of Oz, each player gets a Dorothee in the middle of the board, granting charge to minions on the left side and taunt to the minions on the right. Choose 10 cards, get 3 of each in your deck.
[7:29 PM]
I went with a death knight deck akin to my normal unholy deck, but making use of the taunt and charge to protect, but also do heavy burst damage. And many corpses to use!
[7:30 PM]
Last reset without raiding, we're heading into Aberrus for the first time next sunday.
[7:32 PM]
Two weekly quests again, mythic dungeons and timewalking dungeons. Did both quests, but no heroic upgrades for me. But it was fun to work with the new animations for the bearform I've chosen for this season, as they were added with this week's patch

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 7:33 PM
Wow! An Ar-bear! (or Arbor)

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:33 PM
What's the Beorning in LotRO is the tankform for druids in WoW
[7:35 PM]
For trading post tender, I've at least gotten the 30 quests done through alting, as my main has not gone down into Zaralek Caverns yet. And as long as I can be summoned to the raid, I think I'll continue leaving that to the side and focus on alt questing some more.
[7:38 PM]
And it's not only with my fire mage, who has continued into Ardenweald, preparing Tirna Vaal for the Winter Queen's arrival, and helping out Heartwood Grove. But that's not finished yet, as she'll try to save the Heart of the Grove next week.
No, there's other alts too! With this patch came cross-faction guilds, prompting me to initiate my horde alt project
[7:40 PM]
Starting with transferring from Sha'tar to Argent Dawn to join my raidgroup's guild. He was made during the Draenor expansion to serve as my main horde alt, and that's what he'll be, even though he's dropped 19 levels in the squish
    World of Warcraft
    Calkin - Character - WoW
    Calkin (Argent Dawn) ❮Innovation❯ - 14 Troll Balance Druid, 32 ilvl

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:41 PM
And as the second horde alt on the list, I created my undead frostmage Calthazar - or rather, recreated him from Classic - and got him halfway through the undead starting experience, reaching level 4 in the process. At level 10 I'll be able to link him in the armory, and move to horde number 3
[7:44 PM]
Doing these starting quests does remind me, however, that I still need to do the classic horde experience, as there are some references. But retail is more important right now, at least until I finish project horde as well as catch up on all Shadowlands and Dragonflight quests currently available, mostly with my main.
[7:45 PM]
And that's what we'll continue next week!
And that's my report for this week :0
* :)

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 7:50 PM
Yay! Thanks for your outstanding effort! Hope you have a wonderful, healthy week ahead!!!!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:50 PM
You too!

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 7:50 PM
I am carrying on a conversation with Varda on the private message side.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:51 PM

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 7:55 PM
Yes. And the status of my chapters that are currently up online on our site.
[7:56 PM]
I am working hard to get Chp 6 done, and I now need to revise and updaate Chp 4. I was talking with Varda earlier, and the new title for my Chapter 4 will be "The History and Geopolitics of the Third Age of Middle-earth, or Sauron and Otto von Bismarck."

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:02 PM
from -logy to -politics
[8:02 PM]
Anyway, good luck with that, and namarie

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 8:02 PM
Not a hard jump to make....and Namarie. Again, sei gesund!

Varda — Yesterday at 9:18 PM