Valar Guild

May 28 2023 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place
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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern, which is Valar time and LotRO /servertime.]
Attending (and typed): (4)
    Discord:  Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Sandalf
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
    Lord of the Rings Online, World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Diablo 4, Diablo Immortal, LotR: Gollum, more LotRO
 Tolkien:
    Topic: Food and plants.
 After-meeting:
    (non) Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.
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Before-meeting

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 3:58 PM
Hallo all! Aiya~

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 3:59 PM
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 3:59 PM
Hallo Ar!
[4:00 PM]
Is it 2100 by you?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:00 PM
2300, actually

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:00 PM
Oy Gewald!4

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:00 PM
Or 2023, depending on what you're asking

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:01 PM
He he. I was referri ng to the time. So you are in  November (-1) time?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:02 PM
GMT+2 during summer.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:02 PM
Heya.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:02 PM
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:03 PM
Aiya Eonwe!
[4:03 PM]
Yup. I just checked the Time Zone Map. You are normally ion +1 GMT
[4:04 PM]
I thought it had a letter designation, as well...I am in Tango Time.
[4:04 PM]
That is, "T" zone.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:04 PM
Give me a moment to put my notes together, then if Varda isn't here we'll begin.
@Bounder Sunday Meeting begins shortly.
[4:05 PM]
And if Varda is here we'll begin all the same.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:05 PM
Right now we are in Sierra Time due to daylight savings.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:06 PM
Well, I'm in CET, if that helps?

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:08 PM
Yes it does.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:10 PM
Aiya all

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:10 PM
Heya.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:10 PM
Aiya!

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:10 PM
Aiya Arien!
[4:11 PM]
And Arien is in Z time, unless the U.K. migrates to daylight savings as well.

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Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:11 PM
Ok, notes gathered, let's begin. Feel free to whisper me Tolkien topics, or you're going to end up with something of my own design. mad scientist cackle
@Bounder Meeting begins!

Elen SIla Lumenn Omentielvo!
[4:12 PM]

Membership:

Everyone here say aloud "Fastitocalon". Now type into the channel "Valinor".

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:12 PM
Valinor

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:12 PM
Fastifocation

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:12 PM
Valinor

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:13 PM
Valinoir

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:13 PM
Valinoir eh? Must be in an old Middle-Earth detective movie.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:13 PM
mad cackle

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:13 PM
Along with Hercule, no doubt.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:14 PM
all right all right Valinor

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:14 PM
I'm not even sure what joke to make about what you said before "Valinoir", heh.
[4:15 PM]
Anyway, there we go: Phar, Arien, Sandalf and Eonwë makes four.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:15 PM
I was on fastifocation once in Nova Scotia. It was lovely.
It was a fast vacation.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:16 PM
Looks like Fladrif's still around, online but away right now.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:18 PM
Varda is at Comicpalooza, which was this weekend, so we can either hope she's having fun, or demand that she's having fun. Which do you all want to do? :}

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:18 PM
Demand!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:18 PM
OK, so one vote for demand. Any others?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:19 PM
Hey, if she doesn't want to have fun, that's up to her.
So let's just politely request that she's having fun.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:19 PM
Ok, so one vote for demand, one for request. Arien?
[4:20 PM]
Keep in mind Bilbo, Sauron, and Fangorn went with her, so this applies to them as well. Now wouldn't you want to demand to see the Dark Lord going "wheeeeeee!" ? :}

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:21 PM
we demand that she has fun with hope

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:21 PM
Of course, we can demand or request as much as we would like to, but I think, in the end, Varda will have fun regardless.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:22 PM
So one vote for demand, one for request, one for demand hopefully. Well after these three answers there's only one vote I can make.
I vote "pizza".

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:22 PM
That is the best one yet!

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:22 PM
sounds yummy  we had curry for dinner though ^^

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:23 PM
hehe

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:23 PM
Hmm. Not a massive fan of pizza, as it mostly contains cheese.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:23 PM
From a little Indian take-out place?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:23 PM
Dessert pizza then.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:23 PM
Just give me the crust nods

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:23 PM
Ever have curry pizza?

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:24 PM
no  :o prepared by the Bruce himself of course ^^

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:24 PM
Ok, on to a little more seriousness. Any other member news?

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:24 PM
that is my fiance :)

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:24 PM
Congrats!
:)

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:24 PM
Fiance now? Congrats indeed.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:24 PM
Grats! Funny, I thought you were already married

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:25 PM
I thought for a moment you meant Robert Bruce, and I was wondering if there was a chain in Scotland named after him.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:25 PM
oh we have been engaged for ages haha  well we are married by common law but thats still a  little negotiatary and financial point of discussion hehe
we still love each other

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:25 PM
Yay!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:26 PM
And here I thought we were getting a scoop, darn :}

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:26 PM
grin   @@
[4:27 PM]
Sandalf . very honored

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Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:27 PM

Web:

Nothing to announce at the moment.
[4:28 PM]

Gaming:

LotRO:
[4:29 PM]
Earlier this week the Legendary Item cap went from 485 to 490. It requires a reforge to get it, so don't forget to swing by someone who can reforge. [Note: or use the VIP item.]

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:29 PM
The great forges of the dwarves...
Of course the ultimate forge is Orodruin

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:30 PM
I don't have a list of who was where, but I know in Landroval there was a guy who's name begins with "E" and ends with "ë", and also Varda, Fangorn, and Nar.
[4:31 PM]
Varda's Fainan got herself a new house in LotRO in Erebor.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 4:31 PM
Interesting, basalt has a lower melting point than Granite, because it contains a much larger metal component, that melts at lower temperatures than the silicates. Gold would have no trouble melting in such an environment, however, but simple quartz might.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:31 PM
Frali is wandering around in Moria in Lotro funny enough and found Durin's big forges ^^

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:31 PM
Oh, and Virtues seem to have gone up in cap as well, so check on those.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 4:32 PM
and got lost a dozen times of course dry

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:32 PM
Of course :}
[4:33 PM]
I haven't been back to Moria for any extended time since getting out, but I still remember what that labyrinth is like. Much happier with the sun on my back, heh.

World of Warcraft:
This week's bonus event: Cataclysm Timewalking.

The PvP Brawl: Deep Six is running through Tuesday, May 30th.
[4:33 PM]
Check out Blues News. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23952375/blues-news-may-26-2023
    World of Warcraft
    Blues News: May 26, 2023 - WoW
    Stay up to date with World of Warcraft when you join us each week as we round up some of the latest top blue posts and discussions.

Check out this week's hotfixes. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23948562/hotfixes-may-26-2023
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: May 26, 2023 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Dragonflight, Wrath of the Lich King Classic, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

[4:33 PM]
There's a promotional event going for Diablo 4 until June 14th. Every 30 minutes a treasure goblin spawns. Killing it gives you a chance at many items, including a 36-slot bag and Tyreal's Charger. Check out the announcement for more info. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23952373/world-of-warcraft-pays-homage-to-diablo-with-the-greedy-emissary-event
    World of Warcraft
    World of Warcraft Pays Homage to Diablo with the Greedy Emissary Ev...
    Strange winds blow in from another world, and sightings of odd, bag-holding creatures spot the land. Find them and see what treasure they may hold.

[4:35 PM]
First treasure goblin kill of the day on an account is supposed to have a greater chance of yielding the bag or the charger. So far no luck and I'm probably going to cut down my attempts because 30 minutes is just a crazy timer to try and keep up with on a spawn for a long time, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:36 PM
Hmhm, on the first day I would kill a goblin, then play alt for about 20 minutes, and then take main to the next spot, it's annoying
[4:37 PM]
But after I read about the increased chance... I'm only killing it once a day now.
Got nearly all the other items on the first day anyway.
Oh, and because of the bag, if you have it on your main, I recommend getting the first kill of the day on an alt that lacks it.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:37 PM
It cycles Stormwind/Orgimmar on opposite tops of the hour, and Dragon Isles at the bottom of the hour.
[4:38 PM]
I got the bag on an alt so you can imagine my consternation, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:38 PM
Heh.
Well, still a few weeks to go

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:39 PM
If I got the bag on my main, I would just park alts in different areas and at the top/bottom of the hour flip to the right one to cover where the goblin is. (edited)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:39 PM
So yeah, I'm only killing it once a day now, with an alt who hasn't been to Dragon Isles yet, so she's just doing Stormwind.
Makes for easy timekeeping, since it's SW every even hour

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:39 PM
Aye :}
[4:40 PM]
I've got a Horde alt too, so I get to pop into Orgrimmar on the odd hours.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:40 PM
Well, sure, but make sure your first kill of the day is on a character you want the bag on

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:40 PM
But apparently anyone can tag it, so you could just make a lvl 1 to throw a spell/sword/book at it to get credit.
[4:41 PM]
Of course :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:41 PM
Oh yes. Seen plenty of low levels around in Sw.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:41 PM
Can you guess where the first bag went? :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:41 PM
The horde alt?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:41 PM
Exactly, and it wasn't even first kill of the day, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:42 PM
Heh. I actually got mine on my first kill on the first day with my main, and then by chance on my horde main that same night when it was in Orgrimmar.
But the first alt, level 60 pally, is having trouble getting hers after a few days of SW

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:43 PM
I have at least 3 alts that could sit around in the Dragon Isles if I needed to. Glad that the dragonriding mounts unlock for alts too.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:43 PM
Funny, having a horde "main". Guess it's all that altmaking for 9.1...
Hah, yes.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:44 PM
But yeah, likely to cut back my attempts because it's also not fun having so many people there I can't even see what I'm trying to aim at.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:44 PM
Anyway, I did get Tyrael's Charger yesterday on the pally, so that at least paid off. Just missing one of Wirt's legs in total - which I could always get from the AH if needed - and any bags on alts I can get.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:44 PM
Well congrats Phar. At least one of us got it :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:44 PM
And yes, cutting it down to 1 kill a day is really a lot more manageable
Thanks

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:45 PM
I think I have 2 of Wirt's... four legs total I think?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:45 PM
Well, I guess that's part of my personal report right there, guess I'll refer back in myh actual report
There's 3, I think. 2-h, 1-h, offhand. I've got the first 2.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:45 PM
Not to mention the 2 he has in the games and the one real one, so he had seven legs total, apparently of varying sizes and qualities, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:46 PM
hehe

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:46 PM
Ok, 6 legs total then. He's an arthropod.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:46 PM
I wonder if we'll get any more in D4!
[4:46 PM]
Wirt the centipede.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:47 PM
The Lochaber Axe would've been good if I hadn't already got a much better upgrade like 10 minutes before I got the axe, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:47 PM
Well, there's still the appearance. But then, that was also around in the previous Diablo event.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:48 PM
It's not a unique appearance, so apparently I'd collected it from the original.
Also already have the guitar toy and the town portal.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:48 PM
I'm assuming I got it in the first Diablo event back at the 20th anniversary.
And yes, also got the toys.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:49 PM
Ok, on with gaming.

Hearthstone:
New mini-set coming May 31st: Audiopocalypse. ---
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23957167/encore-encore-it-s-time-for-the-audiopocalypse-mini-set
    Encore, Encore! It’s time for the Audiopocalypse Mini-Set!
    The fate of all music hangs in the balance in this cacophonous Audiopocalypse, featuring dual-class cards, remixed cards, and more!

Diablo 4:
(As if the aforementioned WoW event didn't hint at this)
With Diablo 4 launching soon, Blizzard put out a blog to tell you what they think you need to know. ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23954935/diablo-iv-launches-soon-here-s-what-you-need-to-know
    Diablo IV Launches Soon—Here’s What You Need to Know
    The gates of Hell swing open for everyone on June 6. Browse our launch guide to get informed on Early Access and Launch times, how to download the game in advance, and Twitch Drops!

[4:50 PM]

Diablo Immortal:
Check out the latest bug fixes. ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23826549/diablo-immortal-bug-fixes-and-patch-notes-for-all-platforms
    Diablo Immortal Bug Fixes and Patch Notes for All Platforms
    We will continually update this blog with all bug fixes and patches the team implements for Diablo Immortal on all platforms.

[4:50 PM]
And a couple of events announcements:

Lilith's Disciples Unleash Hatred in Diablo Immortal and Embark ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23954934/lilith-s-disciples-unleash-hatred-in-diablo-immortal
    Lilith’s Disciples Unleash Hatred in Diablo Immortal
    Celebrate the launch of Diablo IV in Diablo Immortal with a new event, Battle Pass, Legendary Gem, and Phantom Market dedicated to Lilith, Blessed Mother.

[4:51 PM]
Embark on a Pilgrimage of Dread Through Sanctuary ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23954933/embark-on-a-pilgrimage-of-dread-through-sanctuary
    Embark on a Pilgrimage of Dread Through Sanctuary
    The fires of Hell continue to burn hot and bright! This content update introduces the new Dread Pilgrimage event and tweaks to existing features.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:51 PM
Eesh, DI season 14 already.
And still unavailable in my country!
Probably for the best :)

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:52 PM
hehe
Any other Gaming News?
[4:53 PM]
Side mention: Apparently the LotR: Gollum game is getting a bad rap due to some issues.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 4:53 PM
Precious?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 4:54 PM
Yeah, I forget the exact issues, latency and/or graphical among them as I recall, but apparently it was enough for the developers to issue an apology.
[4:57 PM]
Ok, if there's no other gaming news.....

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Tolkien:

[4:57 PM]
Does anyone have a topic?
[5:00 PM]
Puts on lab coat.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:00 PM
Back to the lab again, yo ♪

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:00 PM
Puts on goggles.
[5:02 PM]
No one? :}

Frazzles hair.
[5:03 PM]
Ok.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRamB30E9mU
    YouTube
    Michael Jimenez
    Vincent Price Laugh

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:03 PM
Ha ha...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/1112501426158047323/christopher-lloyd-kb-main-211214-572486.jpg

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:03 PM
..that's from Thriller, isn't it?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:03 PM
Probably, Phar. It does sound like it.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:03 PM
And yeah, that character actually came to mind

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:05 PM
Does anyone recognize my post?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:05 PM
Doc Brown, yes, like I said, who came to mind at what Eonwe said
[5:06 PM]
Especially the frazzled hair.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:06 PM
I wouldn't call him "mad", more "affably eccentric" heh.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:06 PM
Ah. now I follow your comment. Actually, that is me in a chem lab clean room, trying to tease out the trace element composition of coals from Nova Scotia,, Canada, back in 1978.
ha ha

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:06 PM
Eonwe blinded me with science...

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:07 PM
Now I want to dig up that Thomas Dolby music video.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:07 PM
Oy! My house is shaking! Heavy thunder with our usual afternoon T-Storm.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:07 PM
Here's the song for now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSx_xK9-CJU
    YouTube
    Song Lyrics HD
    Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science (Lyrics HD)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k for the video
    YouTube
    Thomas Dolby
    Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science (Official Video - HD Rem...

and yes, there's "lol" in there

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:11 PM
OK, so back to Tolkien.
[5:13 PM]
So not terribly long ago I decided, for fun, to make a pass through LoTR with an eye for several things, among them food and plants, just to see how many different items we have named that are sort of an "of course they're there", though we don't think about it. So far, barely coming to Crickhollow, I've picks up about 40 different plants and about 20 different foods.
[5:14 PM]
So here's your science in the form of botany, agriculture, and the culinary arts ("food chemistry", heh)
[5:16 PM]
Name some plants and foods in Middle-earth that are named in Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit, and the Silmarillion, that are named not by an Elvish name, but by an ordinary, "mundane" name that we all would recognize. (i.e., potatoes), and where it can be found (or at least whre it's mentioned as being found from where you're pulling it in the books)
[5:17 PM]
So no athelas, no elanor or niphredil, but sunflowers.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:18 PM
Which seem to grow in or around the Shire, by the way :}

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:19 PM
In "Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbits" Sam finds some native thyme, rosemary, and sage among the fern bracken.
[5:20 PM]
I wonder if Simon and Garfunkel were thinking of that when they wrote "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme" back in the late 1960s...long before either of you were born.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:20 PM
Where was the thyme at the time? Time of day not required, heh.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:21 PM
In the fern bracken.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:21 PM
I've considered going to Scarborough Faire. It's held not terribly far away. A bit of a drive, but still in the state.
[5:22 PM]
I meant what land/region.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jj4s9I-53g&ab_channel=SimonGarfunkelVEVO
    YouTube
    SimonGarfunkelVEVO
    Simon & Garfunkel - Scarborough Fair/Canticle (Audio)

[5:23 PM]
In Ithilien, just before they met up with Faramir and his crew of Rangers.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:23 PM
potatoes
strawberries

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:23 PM
Not the original, but still:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZJP_XLmrQ
    YouTube
    Bollywood-Hollywood
    Scarborough Fair - Celtic Woman live performance HD

[5:24 PM]
Where are those found, Arien?
[5:26 PM]
The Hobbits of the Shire had bacon.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:26 PM
If we are going to count meat, then Sam was cooking coneys (rabbits) for Frodo...and maybe Gollum...but Gollum did not like his food cooked.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:27 PM
Hmm. To participate I'd really need to get my books out and just... leaf through dozens of pages of travel description.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:27 PM
I said "plants and foods" so if it's a food it counts.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:27 PM
Otherwise the best I can do is pipeweed
Well, gollum also liked fish

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:27 PM
Raw. Sushi?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:27 PM
There you go, Phar :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:27 PM
Raw and wrrriggly.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:28 PM
So for the record, Sam was in Ithilien when he found those things.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:28 PM
Yup indeedy...

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:29 PM
Gollum caught a fish at Henneth Annun, I believe?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:29 PM
Oops, you said that. pardon. It snuck in right under my Celtic Woman video and I missed it, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:29 PM
Or was that the movie again...

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:29 PM
No, you're right Phar.
[5:29 PM]
In the pools below at least.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:29 PM
Right.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:30 PM
Don't want fish....
[5:30 PM]
Unless it is cooked, especially pan-fried. Yum!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:30 PM
Blackberry tarts are mentioned in the Shire, so we know they had blackberries and pastries, hehehe.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:31 PM
Which suggests that they also had flour (wheat) and sugar. Now where in Middle-earth did they get sugar? Certainly not native to The Shire!

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:31 PM
in the shire as well Eonwe .. sam mentioned his dad the gaffer is a master of roots including tatters and it is mentioned that after Sam planted the mallorn and strew the Lothlorien earth over his favorite places the strawberries grew especially plentiful and also the grapes brought forth a n excellent vine in the year that sauron was defeated

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:31 PM
Aren't there alternatives for sugar, though?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:32 PM
Might've been able to grow it to some extent during parts of the year. Doesn't have to be large quantities to get the job done. Also they had honey.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:32 PM
Even harder to get in the Shire than sugar, I think.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:32 PM
Honey? Talks about them having honey and honeycomb in the Shire.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:33 PM
Very hard to bake with honey as a sweetening ingredient with flour, I believe...but possible?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:33 PM
But aye, they had wheat.
[5:34 PM]
I feel like but did not write down that flour is mentioned somewhere, but I can't remember where.
And Aye to Arien's big paragraph. I didn't miss it :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:34 PM
Oh, and... lest we forget
mushrooms!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:35 PM
Indeed, don't want to forget those :}

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:35 PM
Tolkien mentions fields of "oast" and "byre." Is the oast a typo? IF not, what in the world is it? And byre? Never heard of that before. Is it European?
In the Return of the King,, describing the homesteads on the Pelennor.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:36 PM
Let me open that part up, one sec.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:36 PM
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Talk:Uncommon_words

    oast - A kiln for drying tobacco, malt and especially hops.

    byre - A barn, especially one used for keeping cattle in.
    Tolkien Gateway
    Talk:Uncommon words
    Whose opinion is expressed in this article with some of the explanations? --Earendilyon 16:12, 5 April 2006 (EDT)

    Hm, not sure. I compiled them from various sources a while ago. Are you disagreeing with the fact that a word is listed or the actual explanation? Feel free to change anything :) --Hyarion 16:19, 5 April 2006 (EDT)
    I was wondering w...


Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:36 PM
oats and barley?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:36 PM
Luckily RotK is not currently one of my books locked away on a shelf, heh.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:36 PM
I always thought that "oast" was a typo for "oats." But Byre remains.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:37 PM
"oast, and garner, fold and byre". yep
[5:37 PM]
"many orchards"

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:37 PM
they would have those in the Shire though as they brewed beer and made pie

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:37 PM
What are they?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:37 PM
points up

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:38 PM
byre .. isn t that an old word for barn?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:38 PM
Oh for - I just gave definitions for both of them :)

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:38 PM
According to google: Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
byre
nounBRITISH
a cowshed.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:39 PM
    Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
    byre
    nounBritish
    noun: byre; plural noun: byres

        a cowshed.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:39 PM
Oops, Phar did indeed.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:39 PM
ah he did yes  :O
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Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:40 PM
So those aren't plants, they're structures of various types and use. They don't count for our list :}

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:40 PM
Garner: Middle-English "granary" from Old French "gernier."

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:40 PM
Indeed

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:42 PM
Oast: Old Germanic, Dutch eest, M.E. äst
Sorry...Old English äst

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:42 PM
Cheat code: You can pick any surname in Bree, and chances are good it's related to a plant, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:42 PM
ponders "Ferny" I don't see it...

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:43 PM
Wow. Those are really archaic terms, huh? I will have to include them in my examples of Tolkien's use of OLD English words in the LoTR to give it historicity.
You folks have made my day! I have added four ancient words to my dictionary.
[5:44 PM]
I will have to tell my friends I am going to bake my bread in my oast.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:44 PM
So.. you're going to boast about your oast?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:44 PM
"Ferny"? obviously it's related to the wildberries that grow in the area.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:44 PM
I will have to first host my oast before I can bake in it.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:45 PM
And let them admire your byre?

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:45 PM
My byre is beautiful, thank you very much.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:45 PM
You're... going to invite your oast over for tea? Wouldn't it be easier to boast that you host a ghost in your oast?
[5:46 PM]
Build it on the coast to get the most.
Serve the ghost roast and toast.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:47 PM
Byre, choir, fire, gyre, hire, ire, lyre, liar, mire, pyre, sire, tire/tyre, wire...wow. A long list. Ought to make a poem about this.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:47 PM
and then we have a larner in the garner and something cold in the fold  or no better old?

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:47 PM
Now you've got it :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:47 PM
My byre was on fire, it was practically a pyre. You can call me a liar but it came down to the wire!

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:47 PM
:)

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:47 PM
Bravo.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:48 PM
great one  :)

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:48 PM
Fantastisch!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:49 PM
We're almost 50 minutes after the hour. I think I should bang the gavel on Phar's and let everyone be about their business.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:49 PM
I must bid a fond Namarie. Tomorrow is Memorial Day in the U.S., and I am going to the JCC in Denver to read a list of deceased Vets who died in the service of their country. Need to get to Costco for sone dinner before they close for the day. I shall check in again later! Namarie!1

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:50 PM
Bangs gavel.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:50 PM
puch!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:50 PM
We are now in

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Aftermeeting:

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:50 PM
Ouch!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:50 PM
Hmm, I will go watch a movie before giving my report later, then.
Namarie Sandalf! I'd say "enjoy" but...

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 5:50 PM
Later, später.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:51 PM
Have fun Sandalf.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:51 PM
Recorded Crazy Rich Asians this evening. I'm not really into romcoms but this is supposed to be quite good.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:52 PM
Enjoy.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:52 PM
Thanks  Back later for report!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:53 PM
I'm going to listen to music and figure out food, heh.

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:53 PM
have all fun in what you do all
[5:54 PM]
i ll just go to bed and prepare for tomorrow yawn

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:54 PM
Gotta make sure you can rise and shine there, Sunny, heh.
Sleep well, Arien :}

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:54 PM
uhu i ll try my best ^^

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 5:54 PM
Namarie Arien

Arien  Valar — 05/28/2023 5:54 PM
Namarie

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 5:56 PM
I guess I should get my first treasure goblin in since it'll be in Stormwind, then gaff it off for a couple of hours while I do something more fun, heh.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 6:07 PM
Arg, the one time the treasure goblin spawns on time I miss it.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 8:36 PM
Hallo again!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 8:44 PM
Aiya! Back from movie-watching.
[8:44 PM]
Personal gaming report!

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 8:44 PM
Aiya! What movie?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 8:44 PM
Crazy Rich Asians. Was quite fun.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 8:45 PM
I have not seen it, but I have heard it is very funny.
[8:46 PM]
The last movie that  was was on Amazon...a very tragic and depressing movie, but, as Linus says, "Happiness is a sad song." The Painted Bird. 2019. Downright depressing. Made by a Czech director, I believe.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 8:46 PM
Definitely some good characters in there
Aha.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 8:46 PM
The last move that I saw....sorry...

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 8:47 PM
Well, there's always a time for depressing stuff too

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[8:50 PM]
Right, report!
[8:51 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, here's a physics game,
https://www.kongregate.com/games/flori9/circloo-2
    Kongregate
    circloO 2
    A colorful physics platformer in a growing circle.
    You#39re a small ball rolling around in a round level. Collect circles to grow the level. As it grows, everyt...

[8:53 PM]
You're in control of a black ball, and have to move around a circular room, collecting circles. When you collect one, the room grows outward, and you can collect the next one, until the level's complete.
You can only move left and right and have to use gravity and momentum to reach the targets.
[8:54 PM]
And for an even bigger challenge you can go for the timed badge, completing all the levels under a total of 24 minutes. Doesn't have to be in one go, as time is counted per level, and you can try to shave off time per individual level.
Oh, and the music's nice too  Good luck!

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:00 PM
Is this a new game for you?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:00 PM
I've played it before, but not in a while, and it came up in this week's badges of the day, so I played it a bit more again, and thought I'd recommend it

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:01 PM
Maybe it will be another one for me to try. I had fun with your other recommendation a few weeks ago.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:02 PM
Great

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:12 PM
Blizzard gaming:
[9:14 PM]
Hearthstone:
Level 76 on the reward track now. Over three quarters of the way to 100!
[9:15 PM]
Completed the event quests as well, in the battlegrounds, by getting a few golden murlocs gathered in them. I'd advise to stay in tier 1, since the pool is smaller and you'll be more likely to collect the same murloc 3 times for the golden version.
[9:16 PM]
Brawl is the heroic tavern brawl, which is basically arena with higher stakes. I never do that one, and got my 5 wins for the weekly quest through battlegrounds and duels instead, using a secrets hunter in the latter.
[9:18 PM]
WoW:
For raiding, we got Sarkareth down on normal difficulty, completing the raid! We're going through normal a few more times for upgrades and shortcuts, and then we'll be moving to heroic.
[9:19 PM]
I've also gotten my 2-piece tier bonus, which is actually kinda nice for guardian, giving a bit of passive healing and increasing rage generation on taking damage.
Not tried it on feral yet, I think.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:21 PM
As we spoke of during the gaming section, I've worked at the Diablo crossover event, getting all the new stuff except one last missing Wirt's Leg. So that means mount (Tyrael's Charger), pet (Baa'lial), the 36-slot bag, the backpack cloak appearance, a banner toy, the Enmity appearance ensemble.
And the other 2 legs.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:22 PM
Ah ha.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:22 PM
But, with May drawing to an end, I also completed the currency collection for this month for the Trading Post, and bought some stuff I wanted there.
[9:23 PM]
Including 2 pets: Egbob, which I'd frozen from last month, Pippin (not a hobbit!), the pet from this month, and the snowy hood/cloak ensemble.
And I also got the Savage Green Battle Turtle, the mount freely gotten for completing the currency collection for this month.
[9:24 PM]
Weekly this week is timewalking, and while the quest reward was a duplicate, I did end up getting a new soulshape from the timewalking dungeons, the Kodo Soul.
[9:25 PM]
Still not done yet collecting those, it seems, but getting a new one now and then is nice
Finally, more alting!
[9:26 PM]
Continued in Ardenweald with the mage, fighting spriggans at a night fae workshop, freeing some Elders, taking down the spriggan leader, and getting out with a bunch of decursed tools.
[9:27 PM]
For project Horde, I started leveling my tauren hunter Caliboes, taking down some quillboar and reaching level 5.
[9:28 PM]
At level 5 I got to tame my first pet, and went slightly north out of the starting area to pick up a praerie wolf, to further the image reference I based my tauren on. You'll see the complete result at around level 10 :)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:30 PM
I also get my first 2-handed melee weapon, which reminded me to send over some farming implements for transmog as well. While I don't actually get any survival/melee skills until I choose Survival spec at level 10, I am liking the challenge to simply use basic melee attacking, combined with my pet, to beat up the enemies rather than shooting them with bow or gun
Survival even before choosing the specialization!
[9:31 PM]
It actually looks rather funny to have my strong tauren smack stuff over the head with a shovel.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:31 PM
Have you also read the George R.R. Martin books? He enjoys writing about melees/

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:31 PM
I've seen Game of Thrones, the tv series, but did not go for the books.

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:31 PM
Among knights, that is. Der Ritter....

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:32 PM
So yeah, next week, onward to 10, and if I make it, it's time for horde alt number 4!

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:32 PM
I always preferred Tolkien....and Martin has made some unkind comments about the LoTR...he seems to be a sort of self-aggrandizing person, but perhaps I am wrong.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 05/28/2023 9:33 PM
His works are a bit too explicit for me. Easier to skip over in a tv show than in a book.
[9:34 PM]
Anyway, that's my report for the week
Now time for bed!
[9:34 PM]
Namarie

Sandalf13 — 05/28/2023 9:56 PM
Namarie!

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 10:06 PM
Yay, finally got the bag, so now I can just park a bunch of characters in different areas and cycle between them for the mount.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 10:48 PM
There, got all my guys spread out so now I just log into whoever is in the area for the goblin and not care about who it is, heh.
[10:50 PM]
Ok, so looks like i'm just missing Wirt's Fightin' Leg and I've got the three we can get.
[10:51 PM]
That and the charger are all I don't have it seems.

Eonwë Valar — 05/28/2023 11:15 PM
For the Record:
On Crickhollow in LotRO this week: Varda, Fangorn, Falco, Eonwë
On Landroval in LotRO this week: Varda, Fangorn, Elwing, Nar, Thranduil, Arien, Pengolodh, Eonwë

May 29, 2023

Eonwë Valar — 05/29/2023 12:37 AM
Lol, now I've got 3 bags in a row starting with my main.

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