Valar Guild

March 5, 2023 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Time
Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern, which is Valar time and LotRO /servertime.]

Attending (and typed): (7)

rien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Pallando, Pengolodh, Sandalf, Varda (presiding)
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    Alatar-(Valar) has passed into the West.
    Sandalf is still moving into a new house.
    Gimli's birthday and health improvement.
    Pengolodh-(V) joined us this week and said his few words. :)

    Alatar was the source for most of the web space and our domain name.
    Pallando gave the guild web space in Alatar's place today, and a new domain name.
    We are in the process of trying to regain the old domain name as well.
     World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Diablo Immortal, Lord of the Rings Online
    Topic: What happened to the Orc bodies after Helm's Deep. There were two batches.
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.



Eonw� Valar � 03/03/2023 3:14 AM
Not sure if anyone needs this, but just an fyi: the little downward-pointing arrow above your character list in LotRO lets you choose how to sort your characters.

@Eonw� Valar
Not sure if anyone needs this, but just an fyi: the little downward-pointing arrow above your character list in LotRO lets you choose how to sort your characters.
Pengolodh � 03/03/2023 7:25 AM
Do you mean in the character selection screen?

March 4, 2023

Eonw� Valar � 03/04/2023 5:45 AM
On the character selection screen, yes.

March 5, 2023

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 1:51 AM
For those who may have noticed the website is down:
Alatar, who was graciously providing that space to us and has done so for many many years, has passed.
More than the space, I regret losing someone I spent many years in D2 and chatting Tolkien with.
This wasn't completely unexpected but it wasn't expected so soon. Varda and I have been considering options for webspace and once we have something definitive we'll make an announcement.

@Eonw� Valar
For those who may have noticed the website is down: Alatar, who was graciously providing that space to us and has done so for many many years, has passed. More than the space, I regret losing someone I spent many years in D2 and chatting Tolkien with. This wasn't completely unexpected but it wasn't expected so soon. Varda and I have been considering options for webspace and once we have something definitive we'll make an announcement.
Pengolodh � 03/05/2023 10:03 AM
Sorry for your loss guys.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 1:21 PM
My condolences as well.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:02 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:02 PM

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:02 PM
[4:03 PM]
This is a big loss for all of us.
[4:04 PM]
Whether you knew him as we did or not. He is why we had so much space for webwork.
So that art you found us with was on his site as well.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:04 PM
I didn't, but he must have been very generous

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:04 PM
A Maia of the Valar Guild for many years. : )
[4:06 PM]
Aye, the site says "This account has been suspended"

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:06 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:06 PM
Feels rather... metaphorical.
[4:07 PM]

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:07 PM
He was very generous, yes. We weren't the only ones he was helping out with webspace. [Note: church groups as well.]

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:08 PM
With as long as you've been around Phar, it's likely you crossed paths with him once or twice, even if you didn't get to game with him. I think he still had time for meetings way back then.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:08 PM
Ah, probably, at least back in the warcraft 3 days.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:10 PM
He joined March 28, 2001 as Full Member Tar-Aldarion-(V).
[4:11 PM]
Ar-Pharazon joined in 2003, so it's possible

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:11 PM
My ancestor
Even got my gnome warrior named after him, Caldarion.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:12 PM
He played Rift, LotRO, and WoW.
Yay for Caldarion. : )
[4:13 PM]
    The Gray Geek
    I write things...and sometimes post them.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:13 PM
I belive he was also in DAoC for a while.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:14 PM
and Elder Scrolls.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:14 PM
(Dark Age of Camelot for those not familiar with the acronym)

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:14 PM
Another site of his is also suspended:
[4:15 PM]
He worked on this as well, but at least not alone so we might find news:
    Into Tomorrow with Dave Graveline
    Dave Graveline

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 4:15 PM
aiya all

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:16 PM
Aiya Arien

Ahh, yes. Here:
[4:16 PM]
    Into Tomorrow with Dave Graveline
    Dave Graveline
    In Memoriam: Mark Lautenschlager
    The "Into Tomorrow" family mourns the passing of former "Into Tomorrow" Co-Host, Mark Lautenschlager.
    Dave, Chris, Marly Q, and Mark recording at the Into Tomorrow Studios
    Mark Lautenschlager was born in Boynton Beach, Florida on November 1, 1960. Mark studied computer science at Palm Beach Ju

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:16 PM

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:17 PM
and my last link for Alatar:
[4:17 PM]
    Computer America
    Computer America
    The nation's longest running talk show about Computers and Technology!

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 4:19 PM
ah sorry for your loss there and i knew him by name sure  i think i once had the joy of meetring him once .at least .

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:21 PM
He had hoped to come by the meeting after he got cancer, but it didn't happen. He must have been in worse shape than we realized by the time he let us know. And it can sneak up on a person.

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 4:21 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:21 PM
Judging by the in memoriam, it was pretty quick, yes.

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 4:23 PM
i know .. we had a young colleauge . he was 21,  and lived a healthy life and hoped to go into the Police force . He recovered pretty well and then .. woosh

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:23 PM
You're right. The in memorium says:
Mark was diagnosed with metastatic kidney cancer in July and entered treatment. Although there were good signs that the treatment was effective in pushing back the cancer, Mark suffered heart failure on December 12.
[4:30 PM]
Pardon, some background chat figuring how to migrate.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:32 PM
Take your time, just spending some time doing time quests in the time zone for the time dragonflight.
[4:33 PM]
You wouldn't believe how many of these quests are named for time puns.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:33 PM
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo
[4:33 PM]


[4:33 PM]
See the above for our loss of Alatar-(Valar).
[4:34 PM]
We will be trying to work out our migration for the website.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:34 PM
Sorry I am late! Gettiing estimates for backyard landscaping, unloading more boxes, getting rid of stuff....whew. Mein Kopf spinnt! My head is spinning....

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:34 PM
Any other membership news?
[4:35 PM]
Oh, and in better news, Gimli-(V)'s birthday was yesterday, and his health is better too.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:35 PM
Glad to hear it.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:35 PM
In the best news,
Pengolodh-(V) joined us this past week. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:36 PM
[4:36 PM]
Fladrif also still around, last online 1 day ago.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:36 PM
Pengolodh, would you like to type a few words of introduction? Maybe how you found us, or whatever you'd like to mention?
Many here don't play LotRO and have not met you yet.
[4:38 PM]
He joined February 28 and has been playing on LotRO Landroval with us. : )
[4:40 PM]
Since he seems to be afk, I can give what you might have seen on our News website before it went down:
ahh, there he is. : )

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:44 PM
I just reviewed the notes from our conversation above. Please pass on my condolences to the family of Mark Lautenschlager. I did not know him, but it is always sad to hear of one's passing, especially a man who was so generous to the Valar Guild.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:45 PM
Alatar was a good man.

Pengolodh � 03/05/2023 4:46 PM
Sure, my name is pengolodh (rl Albert) I found your group / website through a combo of two things.. Searching for tolkien themed art  which I present on my Facebook  silmarillion group and also through the random searches l make about lotro.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:46 PM
Welcome Pengolodh!

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:48 PM
I hope our site helped you.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 4:49 PM

Pengolodh � 03/05/2023 4:50 PM
Yep. Thanks:)

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:50 PM
We hope to put it back online as soon as possible. Parts are still up, that weren't on the same server.
If you have suggestions, we're especially interested since we'll be having a do-over anyway.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:50 PM
Do we need to set up some time of crowd-funding place to get the monies we need to maintain the site?

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:51 PM
I will refer your question to Eonwe. It's tricky.
If it looks as if we are making money off of Tolkien, it can be a problem.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:52 PM
Eonwe is good at tricky, I am must be, to be a successful gamer!
I would think that it would be possible to separate the funding of the site from anything to do with Tolkien, maybe?

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:52 PM
The core of our site is the Tolkien Site.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 4:54 PM
If we did set up some sort of crowd-funding, we would have to look at the legal and financial ramifications for that.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:54 PM
The gaming site alone would be fine
Oh, we still have Discord and our forum.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:55 PM
How did Alatar support the site?

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:55 PM
His own money.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:55 PM
I mean, financially. I think it would cost money to host a server.

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:55 PM
He had a large section of web real estate and subbed it out to a number of different groups, ours included.
[4:56 PM]
It was on Hostgator. We hope to return to that spot as it served us well. But we'll see.
    Home | Valar Guild
    Visit our forum at:

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 4:58 PM
Does anyone know what the actual cost is/would be for our site using Hostgator?

Varda � 03/05/2023 4:59 PM
We are sidechatting on it. Depends on how much space we want to get.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:00 PM
Do we know how much we used?

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 5:00 PM
I would be glad to make a donation to help fund the site, if need be. I don't hink I can carry the whole expense, of course, but I think it would be a good investment  for me to make.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:00 PM
Also, curious... can all the assets and pages easily be moved over, or does it have to be rebuilt from scratch?

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:00 PM
Most can be moved over.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:01 PM
If one is careful enough to have backups, one can move it over.
[5:02 PM]
Short answer: If we lose anything in the process, it's not likely to be much. but if you catch something that's missing once we set everything back up, please mention it so we can see what happened.

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:02 PM
welcome Pengolodh :)P

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:04 PM
Fair enough, Eonwe

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:04 PM
Once we have the issue of "where" resolved, the "what" and "how" should be easier, and I say "should" because I'm accounting for any chance something unexpected starts throwing wrenches like Koopas at us.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:05 PM
Between Eonwe and me, we have the site ready to put back up.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:05 PM

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:07 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:07 PM
I... must not be up to date with mario games, I don't recall one of those

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:07 PM
Arveleg-(V) has been keeping the book review site on his own web space, so it's still up:
    Book List and Reviews for Tolkien Subjects
    The Valar Guild's Collection of Essays and Reviews on Tolkien Subjects

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:07 PM
The guys who throw wrenches on the airship in Super Mario Bros 3.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:08 PM
Ah, yes, airship rings a bell.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:09 PM (Doesn't seem to have anyone talking over it but I can't vouch for it beyond it has the airship battles..)
    Super Mario Bros. 3 - All Airships (No Damage)

[5:10 PM]
Don't go watching it all during the meeting now, hehehe.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:10 PM
I love how these things are literally screwed together
And yes, I remember seeing it, at least.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:12 PM
Kids these days don't understand hard games, heh. They all need to get off my gaming lawn.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:12 PM
So I guess we are covering both Membership and Web in this section of the meeting. : )
Good ol' Pong!

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:12 PM
ponders are these the same king every time, and if not, how do they share the same daughter...
[5:13 PM]
Ah, there's the wrench throwers.
Right, continue

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:13 PM
Different kings, different kingdoms, but Koopa's causing mischief to slow Mario down after kidnapping the Princess of the Mushroom Kingdom.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:14 PM
So when they say they've got messages from the Princess, they're not referring to their own princess. Got ya.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:15 PM

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:17 PM
Just noticed it's after the hour.
[5:18 PM]
Anyone like to see a Tolkien topic or two right quick, (if I'm capable of quick Tolkien, ummm).

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:18 PM
Apparently Princess Peach likes writing and giving gifts, to do it 7 times and find a way to sneak them to the kings to give to Mario.
Here's a quick one: what's the name of that Tolkien guy? :}

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:18 PM
[5:19 PM]
And who's buried in Grant's tomb?

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:19 PM
John Ronald Reuel!

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:19 PM
John Ronald Reul Tolkien

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:19 PM
Nobody knows Reuel.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:19 PM
hey now : )

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:19 PM
Okay, most people don't  ;)

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:19 PM
O well. It was a good movie. "Just Call Me Nobody"
Western comedy

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:20 PM
oh yeah i know that one

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:20 PM
"Trinity", "Trinity is Still my Name"

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:20 PM
Lol, I've seen "My Name is Nobody." Worth the time I wasted on it, lol. Wasted time worth it? Figure out that paradox :}

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:22 PM
Ok, kind of odd the subject I had worked out, considering the news, but here you go.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:22 PM
Sergio Leone, also known for "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly."

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:22 PM
Clint Eastwood, music, Spanish locations. O yeah.
[5:23 PM]
Oh, we might be able to do regular gaming news?
Eonwe, would you like this whistling hammer?

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:23 PM
Do you still have access?

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:23 PM
Does it work like this:

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:23 PM
We have what we were going to put up. : )
[5:24 PM]
Might have to stuff a rag in the whistling.
But I liked the Whistling in the last movie you mentioned. And Fangorn is quite good at it.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:24 PM
[Note: caution to younger viewers for violence]
    Marvel Universe Entertainment
    Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2 - "Super Yaka" | Movie Clip HD

[5:24 PM]
Just don't call me Mary Poppins, y'all.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:25 PM
Not quite as violent. : )

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:25 PM
Good. I'd hate to see a hammer doing that, hehe.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:26 PM
Can't be any more lethal...


Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:26 PM


[5:26 PM]

Darkmoon Faire is going
[5:26 PM]
New month, New Trading Post items.
[5:27 PM]
Pet Battles and World Quests are this week's bonus events.
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: March 3, 2023 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Dragonflight, Wrath of the Lich King Classic, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

[5:28 PM]
Patch 10.0.7 is coming soon:
Lots of stuff that might be fun, so I'll let you read about it.
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight: The 10.0.7 Content Update is Coming Soon - WoW
    Prepare to journey back to the Forbidden Reach for new adventures, collect two new Heritage Armor sets for the orcs and humans, embrace a new journey as a new goblin, Lightforged draenei, or worgen Monk, and more.

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 5:28 PM
Ooops! I must bid everyone a fond Namarie. I need to get some more things done before the day is through...and it is closing down fast...literally. Costco closes at 1800 MST...if I don't get there soon, no dinner for me tonight! So: Namarie and sei gesund! I will check back in later, as always, to read Ar's report and see what else I missed. See you on Mittwoch, Arien! I will get back to you tonight with some Network Solutions costs for my website, Varda!

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:29 PM
can t have you starving
Namarie , sandalf

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 5:29 PM
Routine is everything, at least so says my stomach.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:29 PM

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:29 PM
and see you then

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:29 PM

New Patch 25.4.3 out:
    25.4.3 Patch Notes
    Patch 25.4.3 includes balance changes for Standard, Wild, Battlegrounds, and Duels!

[5:30 PM]
Diablo Immortal:
    Diablo Immortal Bug Fixes and Patch Notes for All Platforms
    We will continually update this blog with all bug fixes and patches the team implements for Diablo Immortal on all platforms.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:30 PM
Later, Sandalf : )

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:31 PM

New blog on the Delvings update:
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Developer Diary � Delving System Update
    Read more about upcoming plans for the Delving system in a new developer diary by Systems Designer Mitth!

[5:32 PM]
Thank you for reading my gaming news, but your Princess is in another castle.
Your lava-floor again, Varda.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:34 PM
The floor is lava!
[5:35 PM]
We have a lava floor in our kin house.
Also a floor of gold coins that jingle when you walk through them.
Fun house.
Thank you, Eonwe.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:35 PM
Kevin wishes he had a lava floor in his house in Home Alone.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:35 PM
Would have been handy!
[5:36 PM]
Landroval branch:

Crickhollow branch:

Shadowfax branch:

Treebeard branch:
[5:36 PM]
Looky, Pengolodh. You're on there.  : )
Also for those that didn't see our now disappeared News blurb for Pengolodh on Feb 28:
[5:37 PM]
Welcome to the Valar Guild, Pengolodh-(V)! He passed his Full Member test today with Bragging Rights of 5/5 with Varda in Lord of the Rings Online. His favorite characters are the Ents because, they took no sides.. they were put their for a reason, to protect the forest and (entwives) to help with the smaller plants.. (by the will of Yavanna)! He also games on Laurelin server in LotRO, and used to play World of Warcraft.
Bragging rights, yay!

On to
[5:37 PM]



[5:38 PM]
Did anyone else have a Tolkien topic before I start in?
[5:39 PM]
I ran across a short bit in the LotR that brought up the question of what happened to the Orc bodies after Helm's Deep, then found the answer a bit farther along.
[5:40 PM]
It also mentioned how they handled the other bodies. They had a good idea that it needed handled right away and there was a lot.
After the battle of Helm's Deep, the dead riders of the Mark were buried under two mounds: on one side of the field before the Hornburg were riders of the East Dales and on the other were those of the Westfold, but Hama had his own separate grave as he had fallen before the Gate. However, men were concerned because the heaps of Orc bodies were too great for burial or burning. Gandalf told them to let the bodies lie, that the morning would bring new counsel.
So what happened to the bodies?
[5:41 PM]
Anyone remember?

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:41 PM
Prrrobably not flung at Isengard...

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:41 PM
I had to look it up, personally.
hmm, that's an idea, Phar.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:41 PM
But I suspect the huorns had something to do with it.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:41 PM
Fertilizer for Ents, there.

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:41 PM
I think the Huorns took care of it .. didn they??

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:42 PM
Two batches of bodies to handle.

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:44 PM
I remember vaguely .. wasn t it mentioned that when the group passed the foresst of huorns in the morning. couldnt they just feel a great anger and wrath? Merry or Pippin is asking "I wonder what happened to the dead orcs?"  and gandalf answers "That , I think, nobody will find out."

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:44 PM
And yes, fertilizer is good... no need to let nutrients go to waste.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:44 PM
Not bad, Arien.
[5:45 PM]
The Two Towers, "The Road to Isengard"
Away south upon the Hornburg, in the middle night men heard a great noise, as a wind in the valley, and the ground trembled; and all were afraid and no one ventured to go forth.
But in the morning they went out and were amazed; for the slain Orcs were gone, and the trees also.
Far down into the valley of the Deep the grass was crushed and trampled brown, as if giant herdsmen had pastured great droves of cattle there; but a mile below the Dike a huge pit had been delved into the earth, and over it stones were piled into a hill.
Men believed that the Orcs whom they had slain were buried there; but whether those who had fled into the wood were with them, none could say, for no man ever set foot upon that hill.
The Death Down it was afterwards called, and no grass would grow there.
But the strange trees were never seen in Deeping Coomb again; they had returned at night, and had gone far away to the dark dales of Fangorn.
Thus they were revenged upon the Orcs.
End quote
[5:46 PM]
One batch of bodies.

To Arien's point:
[5:47 PM]
As Gandalf and Theoden rode to Orthanc after the battle, they went through the woods that had parted in an arch to leave a road.
"It is hot in here," said Legolas to Gandalf. "I feel a great wrath about me. Do you not feel the air throb in your ears?"
"Yes," said Gandalf.
"What has become of the miserable Orcs?" said Legolas.
"That, I think, no one will ever know," said Gandalf.
End quote.
[5:48 PM]

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:48 PM
ah it was Legolas who ased ^^

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:48 PM
I question "no man ever set foot upon that hill". Give it a few centuries, and adolescents will go there for a dare.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:49 PM
I agree with Phar on the footage. : )
We do have a bit of a clue from Old Man Willow, however.

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 5:49 PM
ha ^^ sounds like something some half grown would be adults would do  :)]

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:49 PM
Remember how he attacked the hobbits in the Old Forest?
[5:50 PM]
Aye, Arien. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:50 PM
not to mention future archeologists

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:50 PM
One was pulled into a crack inside the trunk, another dunked by a root underwater, and they were more or less unable to move.
[5:51 PM]
Ah yes. Sandalf and his hammer would be right into that mound.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:51 PM
Ah yes, almost disappeared inside...

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:51 PM
So that gives a clue what full huorns might do, in large numbers.
They also had Ent guidance. Talk about dangerous.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:51 PM
If you hear a knocking coming from a tree, don't knock back.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:52 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:52 PM
Or open it and see who's trapped inside!

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:52 PM
Opening it can be worse...

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:52 PM
You could save a hobbit

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:53 PM
    Razor Shark
    Ernest Scared Stupid (1991)- Trantor is freed

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:53 PM
Oh look. I think it was... an orc. Maybe.
What are the chances.... heh.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:54 PM
Sorry Hobbits, I'm not going to risk being the one person on the one night tapping on the one tree that could free some ancient evil.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:55 PM
I miss the Ernest movies. They used to be on tv here all the time, but haven't seen em in what feels like 20 years.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:56 PM
I've got my two favorites: Ernest Scared Stupid and Ernest Saves Christmas. The others are fun too, but those are the best.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:58 PM
What was the one where he got electrocuted?

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 5:58 PM
Ernest Goes to Jail.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 5:58 PM
Ah, makes sense.

Varda � 03/05/2023 5:59 PM
Oh, before I forget

the gavel hops along the table towards the hammerpad
[6:00 PM]
the table opens up a split and takes in the hammer
and spits it out on the hammerpad



Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:01 PM
Reading back a bit, Merry and Pipping couldn't have asked the question, because they weren't even there
Only major battle they did not take part in, I think.
[6:02 PM]

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:06 PM
They were busy at Isengard

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 6:13 PM
true true
me and my name memory i always mix em up ^^
[6:14 PM]
I was right on the gandalf quote though

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:14 PM
Right  I was just amused by you attributing it to the exact 2 characters who weren't even there

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 6:15 PM
it was a vague memory a very vague one , dint look it up
[6:16 PM]
but yeah it is bed trime ^^ i was wondering why i was so tired hehe

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:16 PM
Ah, sleep well

Arien  Valar � 03/05/2023 6:16 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:16 PM

Pallando-Valar � 03/05/2023 6:19 PM
No ping, I was actually around and just forgot. Womp.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:19 PM

Pallando-Valar � 03/05/2023 6:19 PM
I'm here, reading backscroll... @Eonw� Valar @Varda I can easily host the site if you like.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:20 PM
That is awfully generous.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:20 PM

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:21 PM
Taking up where the other Blue Wizard left off? : )

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:21 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:21 PM
It does seem fitting

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:22 PM
I'd like to talk more about it with you, Pallando, to discuss the details and weigh the options, but my time is at an end for right now.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:23 PM
The nice thing about text and email, is it can be looked at when you have the chance.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:23 PM
The clock's run out, time's up, over, blaow ♪

Pallando-Valar � 03/05/2023 6:25 PM
yeah, just dm me

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:26 PM

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:26 PM
Three-way e-mail between you, me, and Varda might be the best way to do it if that's good for you.

Pallando-Valar � 03/05/2023 6:26 PM
fine by me

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:26 PM
Not sure how appropriate using that is for a rap song, but hey, a song's a song

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:27 PM
Sounds good.
I"m varda.elentari (a t) gmail (d o t) com

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:27 PM
I thought your last name was Valar? :}

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:28 PM
They're all titles. : )
Varda doesn't really have a name.

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:28 PM
Me and my humor, heh.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:28 PM
Why yes, in a way, it is. Varda-(Valar)
So your humor is dead on. : )

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:30 PM
Anyway, I need to get going.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:30 PM
Eonwe, when you get a chance, how big was our website in
Namarie Eonwe!

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:31 PM
My e-mail is
My e-mail is a spoiler :} [Note: run mouse over where it should be.]

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:31 PM
[6:31 PM]
hard to look us up on the website right now : )

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:31 PM
If no one has started the e-mail by the time I get a few moments to sit in front of the computer again, I'll do so.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:32 PM
He needs the GB ballpark figure
I don't know

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:32 PM
My last full backup suggests at the time it was around 800MB, so I would say right now probably in the 1GB area, give or take.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:33 PM
Thank you. Don't be late : )

Eonw� Valar � 03/05/2023 6:33 PM
Sorry, I really need to pull away from the computer. I don't have a time for more detailed analyses.
[6:34 PM]
Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:35 PM
I'll be back later for report!

Pallando-Valar � 03/05/2023 6:36 PM
I can say with confidence I wouldn't notice 1GB.
[6:37 PM]
You could literally send the entire website as an uncompressed tar to every visitor and I wouldn't care.

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:37 PM
Email sent.
That is fantastic, Pallando. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 6:38 PM
Blue wizards, who knew, eh?

Varda � 03/05/2023 6:39 PM
To me tar is something to put on a roof or road. : )
Later, Phar : )

Varda � 03/05/2023 7:22 PM
I am always being stunned by the generosity of folk in the Valar Guild.

Varda � 03/05/2023 8:34 PM
    Obituary for Mark Russell Lautenschlager at Fred Hunter's - Davie-C...
    Mark Russell Lautenschlager November 1, 1960 December 12, 2022 Mark Russell Lautenschlager was born in Boynton Beach, Florida, to parents, Alvin and Sandra Lautenschlager on November 1, 1960.
    He was one of the first babies born at Bethesda Memorial Hospital, where his grandfather, Russell Sullivan, served as the purchasing director.


Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 8:49 PM
Perrrrsonal gaming report!
[8:50 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, once again a week full of badges I already had, and I'll give you
    Trader of Stories - Chapter 2
    The story continues, as our protagonist, Little Willow arrives in the city of Bark. Will she find there the answers she seeks, or will the troubles find her fi...

[8:52 PM]
A sort of point and click visual novel game, part of a series that involves solving mysteries and picking up clues to gather a story together.
[8:53 PM]
This is the second installment about Little Willow, but you don't have to have played the first one, as they're only loosely connected, and in any case, the first one's quickly summarized at the start of this one.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 8:58 PM
In this one, figure out the mysteries of a city and what happens to its dreams. Plot can be a bit complicated, as well as the more literal puzzles near the end, but the graphics and music are nice, so enjoy
[8:58 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
[9:01 PM]
Level 118 on the reward track now, getting some gold as we go.
Also, death knight class to 26!

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 9:02 PM
Hallo All! Aiya!

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 9:03 PM
Tavern brawl is Valeera's Bag of Burgled Spells: Each side plays Valeera the rogue class, with 30 random spells taken from all classes. Each spell also summons a random minion of the same cost. Randomness all around! Takes a bit of luck, but also knowing when to play what, and even when a spell doesn't do much at the time, it might still be useful for the summon.
[9:04 PM]
Raiding continuing, as we focus on the last 2 heroic bosses. Had some progress today, getting well into phase 2 on Diurna, but ideally we still want her at lower health before then, so maybe we need to balance a bit better between boss and adds.
[9:06 PM]
Weekly quest is pet battles, and I did my 5 pvp battles in the garrison as always, and am now over 1000 battles in the WoD expansion continent, so it's moving very... very slowly
As Eonwe said earlier, the new month comes with new trading post items, and I bought a bunch of those.
[9:07 PM]
Starting with the Pandaren Monk pet, the old shop pet, which was now available at the trading post, so that's a new pet for me  Named him after my own panda monk character.

Varda � 03/05/2023 9:07 PM
(Aiya Sandalf   )

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 9:08 PM
I also bought a unique offhand appearance, the Gnomish Liquid Transfer Apparatus.
In other words.. a bucket
Seemed special enough to go for, and it was cheap, as well.

Varda � 03/05/2023 9:08 PM
yay bucket!

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 9:09 PM bucket
    Gnomish Liquid Transfer Apparatus
    Gnomish Liquid Transfer Apparatus is available for purchase from the Trading Post during March for 75 [Trader's Tender].

[9:10 PM]
And finally I bought 2 smaller appearance sets, the Wanderer's Midnight Trappings and the Vagabond's Midnight Trappings, which are cloaks with a hood, and a scarf around the neck. Not very remarkable, but I liked the scarf around my void elf's neck, so went for it.
[9:11 PM]
So that's the trading post for me this month. I do have several more objectives to complete to get all the currency available this month, but that should come naturally, and the upcoming Trial of Style event should help as well.
[9:13 PM]
Speaking of mogs, trying to find a decent headpiece for my red-haired fire mage, a friend pointed me to a certain candle headpiece, apparently created by alchemists through a recipe from Revendreth. So I set my alchemist to work there, unlocking Shadowlands versions of herbalism and alchemy, but the recipe itself is pretty rare to get.
It requires crypt keys from the Halls of Atonement, at a really low droprate even with the droprate buff of a local spirit, and from the crypts a rare chance to get the vendor.
[9:14 PM]
I spent about an hour farming and didn't even get one key... I might come back to it later, maybe after I level the rogue/alchemist a bit more and maybe am able to clear the entire dungeon there easily in mass pulls.
[9:15 PM]
Finally, questing!

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 9:16 PM
Sent the druid into Thaldraszus, starting with the capital Valdrakken, where I spied on a rebellious intrusion which ultimately sent me to the South Hold outpost to clean out an invasion of primalists, only to find out that the commander was a traitor and went off to become the first boss of the raid.
After that I visited the mage again in Bastion, dealing with the Maldraxxus invasion at the Temple of Courage.
[9:18 PM]
And finally back to the druid, where I skipped - though noted for the future - some side quests unlocking in Valdrakken, instead going straight for Nozdormu's questline to help out Chromie and the other Timewalkers at the Bronze Oathstone, collecting some temporal energy and clearing out some time anomalies to stabilize the timeline.
[9:20 PM]
Next up I'll be aiding Chromie some more, before visiting the mage for a shorter questline, and then finishing up the main quests in Thaldraszus.... I'm aiming to complete it and unlock the Engine of Innovation in the next reset, so I can start working on 2 good gear upgrades that need it.
And that's my report for the week!

Varda � 03/05/2023 9:22 PM
Thank you, Phar : )
And thanks for the bucket picture.

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 9:22 PM
you're welcome

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 9:22 PM
Thank you for a lovely report (at least all that I have read so far!) Have a wonderful week ahead, and sleep well. Sei gesund an d Namarie!

Ar-Pharazon-V � 03/05/2023 9:22 PM

Sandalf13 � 03/05/2023 9:23 PM
Namarie, Varda! Much to think about and work on now...later!

Varda � 03/05/2023 9:23 PM
Namarie Phar
[9:24 PM]
Namarie Sandalf

March 6, 2023

@Eonw� Valar (Doesn't seem to have anyone talking over it but I can't vouch for it beyond it has the airship battles..)
Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 1:29 AM
Gosh.. your giving me flashbacks and feelings of panic   that level was really hard!

@Eonw� Valar
Kids these days don't understand hard games, heh. They all need to get off my gaming lawn.
Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 1:31 AM
Games cant be hard anymore.  Apparently kids wont play them if they are.

@Eonw� Valar
Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 1:42 AM
LOL i forgot about Ernest. He is one of the characters that just sticks in your head from childhood. Great performer.

Looky, Pengolodh. You're on there. : )
Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 1:43 AM
I noticed  I am honored !

Varda � 03/06/2023 1:43 AM
: )

@Eonw� Valar
Patch 10.0.7 is coming soon: Lots of stuff that might be fun, so I'll let you read about it.
Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 1:48 AM
This makes me want to get back into WOW lol XD

Varda � 03/06/2023 1:49 AM
hides the message

The Death Down it was afterwards called, and no grass would grow there.
Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 1:51 AM
Such an interesting / recurring theme in tolkiens work... the Mounds! He always loved weaving Norse traditions into it.

Varda � 03/06/2023 1:51 AM
Agreed. The heroism of the Norse vs impossible odds appeals to him (and us).

Pengolodh � 03/06/2023 6:26 AM
I should make a report.
Currently in  minas tirth (lotro laurelin server). Spent last week working on my legendary weapon. I had neglected it alot since system changed. Picked up some housing items for the house I have in bree homestead.
On (landroval) currently questing in yondershire with my runekeeper. Although I went in under leveled, so all the stables are inactive lol bad choice on my part.

March 8, 2023
Varda � Today at 2:09 PM
You are now ahead of me. I have not yet finished the new Yondershire, although started in. Some very interesting book characters pop up there!