Valar Guild

January 22, 2022 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Time
Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]

Attending (and typed): (5)

rien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Sandalf, Varda (presiding)
Meeting begins
Membership news:

  World of Warcraft, Overwatch 2, Hearthstone, Warcraft 3: Reforged, Diablo Immortal, Lord of the Rings Online
    Topic: Gandalf showing his true colors. Various times.
        Tolkien Moment (quote): Gandalf on top of the hill.
        RP posting by Phar (Calion).
        RP comments on the recent postings.
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.



Eonw๋ Valar — 01/16/2023 7:39 PM
Heya. Sorry I missed the meeting. Life is like that sometimes.

Varda — 01/16/2023 7:53 PM
Way it goes. RL
Glad we can have a transcript for you.

Eonw๋ Valar — 01/16/2023 8:06 PM
[8:06 PM]
Anyone notice the small blurb on the RP? :}

January 17, 2023

Varda — 01/17/2023 7:19 PM
Thanks for letting us know,  and well done. Reply made.

January 18, 2023

Eonw๋ Valar — 01/18/2023 7:51 PM
Thanks. I'll give until Sunday for everyone to get a chance to read and decide if they want to give a little reaction blurb :}

January 22, 2023

Varda — Today at 3:52 PM
Arien posted after I did. Maybe we can get a comment from Phar!

Arien  Valar — Today at 3:54 PM
Dwarfish enough ::?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 3:59 PM
Hmm, will see if I can post something short tonight, akin to your posts  Also, Aiya!

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:00 PM

Varda — Today at 4:00 PM
Aiya Arien, Phar, and Sandalf : )
[4:01 PM]
Might have a reaction to that dwarven reaction : )
Pardon, require a quick break and brb
[4:06 PM]
Back : )
[4:07 PM]
@Bounder Huzzah! Time to say hi to old friends, chat about gaming and Tolkien, and make suggestions, request invites, etc. Come on in! The Lurking's fine!

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:07 PM]


[4:07 PM]
We have Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Sandalf and myself so far.
[4:08 PM]
Eonwe might not be able to make it in time
Hurin was typing!
Go ahead, Hurin. Great to hear from you. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:09 PM
Possibly cat on keyboard?

Varda — Today at 4:09 PM
Maybe so, heh, but it was nice to see the cat making the attempt. : )
[4:10 PM]


[4:10 PM]
Nothing interesting for the group to report at this time.
Feel free to toss in your comments as we hit each game section, or whenever you can.
[4:11 PM]
We are small enough to be pretty informal.
oh, for web, could mention that more pics were added to the index image rotator.



[4:12 PM]
World of Warcraft:
Discord claims Arien is in there right now, but it tends to have a lot of lag about that.
From Eonwe:
This week's bonus event: World Quests.
[4:13 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Warsong Scramble is going until Tuesday, January 24th.
Check out the 10.0.5 Patch Notes.
[4:14 PM]
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight: 10.0.5 Content Update Notes - WoW
    The Dragonflight 10.0.5 content update arrives to World of Warcraft on January 24!

[4:14 PM]
Thank you to Fangorn for bringing a snack!

Vault of the Incarnates Raid Finder Wing 3 opened this week.
[4:15 PM]
    World of Warcraft
    Vault of the Incarnates Raid Finder Wing 3 Now Live! - WoW
    End Raszageth the Storm-Eater’s plans of freeing her fellow incarnates within the Vault of the Incarnates beginning December 12 with Dragonflight Season 1!

Ulduar is open in WoW Classic.
[4:16 PM]
    World of Warcraft
    Wrath of the Lich King Classic: Ulduar Now Live! - WoW
    Join Brann Bronzebeard’s expedition and explore Ulduar in the next content phase of Wrath of the Lich King Classic.

Check out this week's hotfixes.
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: January 19, 2023 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Dragonflight, Wrath of the Lich King Classic, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

Arien  Valar — Today at 4:17 PM

Varda — Today at 4:17 PM
Aiya Sunshine : )
Any other commnets on WoW?

Overwatch 2:
The Season of the Rabbit Seasonal Event is now going.
[4:18 PM]
    Good fortune and fun await in the Year of the Rabbit seasonal event!
    This year’s Lunar New Year event has begun with fan-favorite modes returning and fun surprises in Overwatch 2!

Patch 25.2 is out.
    25.2 Patch Notes
    Patch 25.2 kicks off Battlegrounds Season 3, featuring a new Hero, Undead and dual-type minions, and more!

[4:19 PM]
Warcraft 3: Reforged:
Patch 1.35.0 came out this week.
    Warcraft IIIฎ: Reforged Patch 1.35.0 Now Live
    The latest patch is now live and includes Custom Campaigns, Balance Updates, Map Pool Updates, and more.

Diablo Immortal:
[4:20 PM]
See the answers to the January 19th Q&A.
    Diablo Immortal Developer Q&A Series
    Welcome to our official Diablo Immortal Q&A series.

Check out the latest bug fixes.
    Diablo Immortal Bug Fixes and Patch Notes for All Platforms
    We will continually update this blog with all bug fixes and patches the team implements for Diablo Immortal on all platforms.

[4:21 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online:
Don't miss what's coming in 2023 with this letter from Lead Systems Designer Orion.
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    A Look at LOTRO’s 2023!
    Read more about the year ahead in The Lord of the Rings Online in a new Letter to the Players by Lead Systems Designer Orion!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:21 PM
Orion? Was that Menelvagor?

Varda — Today at 4:22 PM
heh, no
+Orion is the Lead Systems Designer for Lord of the Rings Online.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:22 PM
No, I mean constellation-wise

Varda — Today at 4:22 PM
Yes : )
[4:23 PM]
Orion, +Orion, very similar!
[4:24 PM]
This past week in our kin branches in LotRO (others not in the kin branches were also active, such as Tulkas):
[4:25 PM]
Landroval branch (main):

Crickhollow branch:

Shadowfax branch:

Treebeard branch:
[4:25 PM]
Starcraft 2 had Fangorn, Eowyn, Faramir, and RealFloppa : )
Any other Valarite settings? [sightings]

[4:28 PM]
    Articles on the Stars in the sky of Tolkien's Middle-earth

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:28 PM
I do remember there being activity in the valarguild community channel on bnet, but I don't recall the name :)

Varda — Today at 4:28 PM
Thanks for mentioning
[4:29 PM]
Sauron shows up pretty often in the Eve Online Valar Guild group
[4:30 PM]
Any other news or suggestions or requests for Membership or Gaming? Or just comments?
We almost had a Sandalf typing : )

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:31 PM
One third of my three-car garage is serving as a storage locker. So many boxes that I have not seen in over 13 years or so. So much to do! But as I said to Varda the other day, one bite at a time, I guess!
[4:32 PM]
I alrady got Colorado tags on my truck and car. I feel like a resident again, after 34 years...I last lived in Colorado in 1989...back in the Dark Ages...but they were the best years of my life.

Varda — Today at 4:32 PM
May they be great years for you again!
[4:33 PM]
The Melkorrim lived in Colorado, probably still do. : )

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:33 PM
My house is so far out still that we have no pizza delivery or any other fast food delivery service. HAve to drive for everything. The running and bike trails in my immediate neighborhood all sort of dead-end without going anywhere.
But  there is a Costco only 4 miles away! Closer than it was for me in Lincoln!

Varda — Today at 4:33 PM
You're about to have lots of yummy cooking smells coming from your new house.
[4:34 PM]
4 miles. Yay?

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:34 PM
Ya sure ya betcha!

Varda — Today at 4:34 PM
On to



[4:35 PM]
Gandalf tends to seem like just the wise old man most of the time when traveling with the Companions of the Fellowship.
not always.
[4:36 PM]
Can you think of a time when his true origin came through?

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:36 PM
Facing the Balrog in Moria...

Varda — Today at 4:36 PM
That's definitely one!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:37 PM
Scaring Bilbo back at Bag End

Varda — Today at 4:37 PM
heh, yep

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:37 PM
Or, you mean during the Fellowship's journey?

Varda — Today at 4:37 PM
I did, yes. But that was good too.

Arien  Valar — Today at 4:37 PM
at Frodo s place at the beginning when he was talking with bilbo

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:37 PM
Perhaps his comments to the Three Hunters when they finally discovered who that old guy in white was...

Arien  Valar — Today at 4:38 PM
at bag end

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:38 PM
Myes, after Moria he was less subtle about it

Varda — Today at 4:38 PM
True. He was no longer the Grey but the White. Different job.
[4:39 PM]
The colors seemed to be job-related.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:39 PM
"What do you mean? My robes were always white. They were just... dusty."

Varda — Today at 4:39 PM
White, grey, blue and blue, brown

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:40 PM
(Ah, the bnet community activity was Gimli's and Eonwe's)

Varda — Today at 4:40 PM

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:40 PM
One of the blue wizards should have been black, then we would have had black and blue.

Varda — Today at 4:41 PM
[4:42 PM]
I typed up a Tolkien Moment for you. Wondered if anyone might pick it.
Give you all a last chance to put in a word edgewise!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:43 PM
Just wanted to mention Saruman's red robes in that one movie

Varda — Today at 4:43 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:43 PM
    The Lord of the Rings 1978 Wiki
    "We can deal with Sauron ourselves, Gandalf. You and I, one way or another. [...] It is time for us to choose. A new age is upon us. A new Power is rising. Nothing that Men or Elves or Wizards can do will avail against it. Its enemies are utterly doomed! But its friends..." ― Saruman, to GandalfSaruman was one of the Wizards, guardians of Middle...

[4:44 PM] for a better look
    Kjell Axel ึstman Nostalgic inc.
    Saruman's war speech - Lord of the Rings 1978 - Nostalgic animation.

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:44 PM
Have you ever walked around in a robe? They are the most ungainly clothes to wear imaginable. I wonder why so many wizards (and apparently many Elves) wear robes: highly impractical garments for the everyday exigencies of like, like walking through Mioddle-earth on a quest!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:45 PM
Ah, but it's part of the mystery! Covering up as much of your shape as possible, not knowing the hidden powers that lie beneath.

Varda — Today at 4:46 PM
I have walked around in a robe. They can be made differently, but they are not action garments!

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:46 PM
Still...not very practical for fighting Orcs, Balrogs, or other assorted creatures of evil.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:47 PM
Tis fine if you're a caster!
Just... make sure you take out the enemy before you have to run.

Varda — Today at 4:47 PM
If one is sending out magic and hiding spell component pouches, it might work. Swords and bows, not so much.
Knowing the magus is [not] going to run might make him more intimidating? He/she has to go all out.
[4:48 PM]
And the old, the cat kills the wizard due to lack of Strength points.

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:48 PM
The last time I wore a robe was at my graduation from the Financial Planning Program at Metro Community College...I really wowed the fans with my PhD robe with the hood from the University of Pittsburgh! Their colors were blue and gold. Very pretty combination.

Varda — Today at 4:48 PM
That would be handsome.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:49 PM
Well, sure, for ceremonial purposes it'll do.

Varda — Today at 4:49 PM
And may be light enough to wear over a tee shirt and bluejeans. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:50 PM
I'm wearing a robe in WoW right now, and watching my character sit on a mount... robe appears to be clipping through.

Varda — Today at 4:50 PM
Tough robe!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:50 PM
The mount is mostly made of slime, though, so I guess it works.

Varda — Today at 4:50 PM
[4:51 PM]
Ok, before it gets too late, you get a Gandalf Tolkien Moment! : )
FotR "A Journey in the Dark"
(The Companions have gone to the top of a hill because it is more defensible against the wargs they can hear. The party appears to be about to be overwhelmed, surrounded by great numbers.)
In the wavering firelight Gandalf seemed suddenly to grow: he rose up, a great menacing shape like the monument of some ancient king of stone set upon a hill.
Stooping like a cloud, he lifted a burning branch and strode to meet the wolves.
They gave back before him.
High in the air he tossed the blazing brand.
It flared with a sudden white radiance like lightning; and his voice rolled like thunder.
"Naur an edraith ammen! Naur dan I ngaurhoth!" he cried.
There was a roar and a crackle, and the tree above him burst into a leaf and bloom of blinding flame.
The fire leapt from tree-top to tree-top.
The whole hill was crowned with dazzling light.
The swords and knives of the defenders shone and flickered.
The last arrow of Legolas kindled in the air as it flew, and plunged burning into the heart of a great wolf-chieftain.
All the others fled.
Slowly the fire died until nothing was left but falling ash and sparks; a bitter smoke curled above the burned tree stumps, and blew darkly from the hill, as the first light of dawn came dimly in the sky.
Their enemies were routed and did not return.
"What did I tell you, Mr. Pippin?" said Sam, sheathing his sword.
"Wolves won't get him.
That was an eye-opener, and no mistake!
Nearly singed the hair off my head!"
[4:55 PM]
End quote.

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:55 PM
Olorin was resident in the gardens of Lorien and Nienna in Aman...exactly where and when did he pick up his ability to be a flame-thrower?

Varda — Today at 4:56 PM
One reason was that Ring he wore.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:56 PM
I was going to mention his Ring, yep

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:56 PM
Did he get some quick lessons from Aule? Still...even with the Ring, he had to have a great deal of knowledge about fire and how to use it.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:57 PM
Also, that would be the second time when an encounter between Gandalf and a bunch of wolves ends up with some trees set on fire, as I recall.

Varda — Today at 4:57 PM
Practice sessions with it in private in the back hills would be a hoot.

Sandalf13 — Today at 4:57 PM
In the Hobbit, yes...
The Black Hills of South Dakota?

Varda — Today at 4:57 PM
Now we know why!
[4:58 PM]
In this incident, there is also lightning and additions to the weapons.
He becomes huge.
[4:59 PM]
There are a lot of incidents with Gandalf using his abilities. This one seemed interesting because it involved the whole group so much.
He is not hiding what he is from them.

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:00 PM
Hey there, hi there, ho there.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:00 PM

Varda — Today at 5:00 PM
One of the warnings from DM's in tabletop games is that if you allow a superpowered member, the rest stand back and let him do all the work, using him like a flamethrower.
Hey dol derry dol! AiyaEonwe : )
[5:01 PM]
Too early! It's not After-meeting quite yet. ; )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:01 PM
And then they complain about him getting all the xp.

Varda — Today at 5:01 PM
We've been adding to the RP
Right, Phar! (same comic)

Sandalf13 — Today at 5:02 PM
Aiya Eonwe!

And then they complain about him getting all the xp.
Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:03 PM
That's why they should be equipping the EXP SHARE as soon as they get it from their Pokemon professor (or whoever gives it to them according to game).
[5:05 PM]
And just because:

Sandalf13 — Today at 5:07 PM
Belay my doesn't work here.

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:07 PM
If you want to delete it, mouse over the post, click on the three dots, and select "delete message."

Varda — Today at 5:08 PM
Click the url above the pic, instead of the one with the picture

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:09 PM
Heh, you don't see tv intros that long anymore.

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:09 PM
Frali getting grabby with fine trinkets, heh.
[5:11 PM]
(Looked at the RP, pardon.)

Varda — Today at 5:11 PM
Aye, that's long. [video]

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:13 PM
And aye, 3 minutes is long. Been a while since I've seen a tv opening, but anime are generally half that. Don't think most US tv openings go more than a minute now.

Varda — Today at 5:13 PM
It's the hour, so maybe we should move into After-meeting

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:14 PM
Roit, I'll go write my post.

Varda — Today at 5:14 PM
True. It looked like a mini-show or advertisement.

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:14 PM

Varda — Today at 5:14 PM
ahh, the Phar post incoming! woot!

the gavels are still watching the Mickey Mouse YouTube
the hammerpad rolls up behind them quietly
whomp whomp whomp whomp whomp...

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:15 PM
The most important par of that intro? the words "Donald Duck!" hehehe

Varda — Today at 5:15 PM
stars came out! [stars circling heads as if in the Disney comic shows]
[5:15 PM]



Sandalf13 — Today at 5:16 PM
Sun is still shining here...have another two hours of daylight in which I can do....wait for it....MORE UNPACKING, SORTING, and STORING!!! I tell you, life is falling (temporarily) into a boring routine!
[5:17 PM]
I just discovered I need to go back to the store and buy some more containers for storing stuff in my roll top desk. Will these store visits ever cease?

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:18 PM
Hopefully not completely, unless you intend to grow or make everything you need at home, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:19 PM
Certainly if you're out of range for home delivery

Sandalf13 — Today at 5:19 PM
You are right...I just hope my twice or three times daily visits will soon come to an end.

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:19 PM
2-3 times a day might be a tiny bit excessive, hehehe.

Sandalf13 — Today at 5:20 PM
So I shall bid you all a fond Namarie. I will check on Ar's report later, and I hope that next week I will be more-or-less finished with moving in!!! NAmarie all!

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:20 PM
Good luck Sandalf. Take care and drive safe.

Sandalf13 — Today at 5:20 PM
Thank you again. Sei gesund!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:20 PM
Namarie, and good luck with the unpacking!

Varda — Today at 5:20 PM

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:22 PM
Right, small post made.

Varda — Today at 5:23 PM
Thank you!

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:26 PM
I will ruminate a bit before my next post(s), but I have a pretty good idea what it's going to be :}
[5:33 PM]
Smacks Frali's hand "No! No! Bad Dwarf!" :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:33 PM

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:33 PM
That won't be the post, hehehe.

Varda — Today at 5:34 PM
So he says...

Eonw๋ Valar — Today at 5:36 PM
I must go now. Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:38 PM

Varda — Today at 5:41 PM
[5:42 PM]
We have a Spock eyebrow!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:43 PM
Something like that, yes, though I'm familiar with elves having huge eyebrows

Varda — Today at 5:47 PM
WoW night elf eyebrows!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:47 PM

Arien  Valar — Today at 5:56 PM
Namarie all

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:56 PM


Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:06 PM
Personal gaming report:

Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:25 PM
For (non)flashgaming, it's hard to resist a bontegame, especially one of the color ones, when it comes up is a puzzle game where you have to turn every level green by figuring out the requirements/mechanics in each level! Not too difficult, though a few can be tedious even after figuring it out.
    Green, another puzzle game for you!
    Can you make the screen green in all 25 levels? Each level has its own logic.
    You can also get the FREE mobile version wi...

[6:27 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
[6:29 PM]
Level 77 on the reward track, a few more weeks to go for 100 I'm sure!
[6:30 PM]
There's a new quest event, Lunar New Year, Silvermoon-themed, though all the quests are for Battlegrounds.
[6:31 PM]
Still not a fan of those, nor am I getting very good at them, but I did complete all the quests to get all the rewards on the event track, and even got my first first place!
[6:32 PM]
Brawl is half and half. Create a deck of 15 cards, each player has the same deck of both halfdecks combined.
[6:34 PM]
Built myself a rogue deck of weapon-enhancing cards to fit the rogue class ability of summoning a weapon, with the cards being useless to any class that's not rogue or has no weapons. A bit sneaky, but it works, especially when the opponent's hand fills up with cards they can't use
[6:36 PM]
Not raiding yet, though I made it to level 69 on the druid, so not far to go.
[6:37 PM]
For the oldschool Siege of Orgrimmar weekly raid, I've now gotten every appearance for my paladin except an axe, so I'll be switching her in for my Drac'thyr, who can also get said axe and all the mail appearances. Taking stock, it seems I only miss the axe, a wand, and the mail and cloth appearances, so after the Dracthyr is done I can finish up with the mage.
[6:38 PM]
Oh, also missing the plate Tusks shoulders from Garrosh, but those are quite rare. I might go back to the paladin for those after I've got everything else.
[6:42 PM]
For questing, made good progress! The druid completed the main and side questlines in Ohn'ahran Plains, helping out green dragons, fighting off a primalist and centaur attack on the Ancient Bough, a green dragon island with a Dream portal, before heading into the Nokhud dungeon to end the centaur threat and free Ohn'ahra the wind spirit.
[6:43 PM]
While questing with the green dragons, I also got a pet duckling, Pilot, and the second dragonriding mount, the Velocidrake. Might be my favorite of the 4 drakes, with weird snout-customizations and a sleek appearance, certainly more interesting than the protodrake.
[6:44 PM]
With it I also unlocked Winds of the Isles, the ability to find and use vertical gales around the landscape on my drake, for a nice boost.
[6:46 PM]
One of the side questlines I completed involved Taivan, a huge but friendly Bakar dog, as we struggled to find him a purpose that didn't involve hunting wildlife or herding sheep. Very nice questline, giving a toy at the end that allows you to summon Taivan to cuddle up against
[6:48 PM]
After finishing the questlines for the Plains, I visited all the race tracks in the zone for a dragonriding quest. I didn't even realize that doing the races (the first time, at least) gave me experience per race, until I hit level 69 doing them
[6:50 PM]
And after that, I started the Azure Span quests! It actually starts outside the zone first, with a centaur camp including some Kirin Tor npcs along the way, but there's also some sidequests to be done there around crafting orders and flying around to visit some npcs.
But then I went into the Azure Span itself, visiting a Tuskarr fishing spot and picking up some quests there.
[6:51 PM]
Next week I'll travel further in and see about the main questline, involving the Kirin Tor and the blue Oathstone. And hopefully hit 70 as we go!
And that's my report for the week
[6:52 PM]

Varda — Today at 7:06 PM
Thank you, Phar

Sandalf13 — Today at 7:06 PM
An excellent report, as always!

Varda — Today at 7:22 PM
Hi Sandalf and welcome back. : )