May 29, 2022 Sunday
Meeting
5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings
Time
Discord: Valar
Guild/meeting_place
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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for
Eastern.]
Attending (and typed): (5)
Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Sandalf13, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
World of
Warcraft, Overwatch,
Hearthstone, Diablo Immortal,
Lord
of the Rings Online
Tolkien:
Topic: Tolkien Moment concerning the
creation of Ardas 1 and 2.
Topic: Timelines for sailing
ships.
After-meeting:
(non)Flashgaming
Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.
Links to the place showing why the link is
in the chat:
Link: supposed Neanderthal
village
Link: first link to the
stilt village
Link: second link
to the stilt village on Lake Constance
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Before-meeting
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
Hallo All! Aiya~!
Varda — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
Aiya Sandalf : )
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
Was ist neu? Otherwise, what is new?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
Aiya Varda and Sandalf!
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
Aiya Ar!
Varda — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
That's pretty much the meeting subject, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
What is mew? :3
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 3:57 PM
New?
Varda — Yesterday at 3:58 PM
Where are you now? Not at home, I assume?
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
aIYA
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Aiya!
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
I am still in Lincoln. Strange weather, as usual. Expecting some
strong T-Storms later. I leave for NY and my 50th College Reunion
on 8 June.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
@Bounder It's that time! Come say hi, chat gaming and Tolkien!
Lurk and jump out to surprise us!
Nice : )
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
Happy (Sad?) Memorial Day!
Varda — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
If strange is usual, is it still strange?
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
You are right, of course.
[4:03 PM]
Aiya Arien!
Varda — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Pre-Memorial day here, but aye.
[4:03 PM]
Time to get this caravan down the road.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Well. it is sort of the whole weekend, is it not?
Varda — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
It's supposed to be a day, but most big deals tend to cast a wide
penumbra if only due to travel.
[4:04 PM]
So yes. : )
[4:04 PM]
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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:04 PM]
Membership:
[4:04 PM]
Glad to see Arien, Phar, and Sandalf. : )
[4:05 PM]
I haven't been home most of the week, but glad to be back. Gimli
and wife kindly house-sat for us.
[4:05 PM]
Any other membership news?
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Heya
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Aiya Eonwe!
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Aiya Eonwe?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Fladrif spotted on Hearthstone.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
:)
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Also I had a spectator quest for which I watched Fladrif work his
way through some Battlegrounds, and apparently third place is
enough to count as a win for the quest
[4:06 PM]
And after that we hung out in the game a bit more.
[4:06 PM]
Also, aiya Eonwe
Varda — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Aiya Eonwe : )
[4:07 PM]
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Web:
[4:08 PM]
I need to get on that more like in the old days. Hope to be
home this week, so it should be easier!
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Gaming:
[4:09 PM]
Eonwe is gathering it up for us. Be sure to remember to add your
own gaming news either as he goes or at the end of his report.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
World of Warcraft:
This week's Bonus Event: Wrath of the Lich King Timewalking.
The PvP Brawl: Temple of Hotmogu runs through Tuesday, May 31st.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
tosses the shiny gavel to Fionwe
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Catches gavel mid-word :}
Varda — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
yay!
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Check out the following links:
Shadowlands: 9.2.5 Content Update Arrives May 31 ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23801631/shadowlands-925-content-update-arrives-may-31
World of Warcraft
Shadowlands: 9.2.5 Content Update Arrives May
31 - WoW
Get a sneak peek at some of the Shadowlands
9.2.5 content update features.
[4:10 PM]
Shadowlands: A Look at Cross-Faction Instances ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23796742/shadowlands-a-look-at-cross-faction-instances
World of Warcraft
Shadowlands: A Look at Cross-Faction Instances
- WoW
Group up with members of the opposing faction
in the Shadowlands 9.2.5 content update.
[4:11 PM]
Shadowlands 9.2.5 Content Update Notes ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23789456/shadowlands-925-content-update-notes
World of Warcraft
Shadowlands 9.2.5 Content Update Notes - WoW
The Shadowlands 9.2.5 content update arrives to
World of Warcraft on May 31!
[4:11 PM]
An Eye on Player Behavior and Reporting Improvements ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23797208/an-eye-on-player-behavior-and-reporting-improvements
World of Warcraft
An Eye on Player Behavior and Reporting
Improvements - WoW
As a part of our ongoing efforts to foster a
fun, fair, and safe game environment for our community, we’re
implementing some improvements to the system with the 9.2.5
update.
[4:11 PM]
Overwatch:
There's a new blog: Overwatch 2 PvP Beta Analysis: How Data and
Community Feeback Inform Game Balance. ---
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23787377/overwatch-2-pvp-beta-analysis-how-data-and-community-feedback-inform-game-balance/
Overwatch
Overwatch 2 PvP Beta Analysis: How Data and
Community Feedback Info...
Heroes of Overwatch, let's talk data!
[4:11 PM]
Hearthstone:
Check out the blog: Prepare to dive into the Throne of the Tides
Mini-Set! ---
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23797161/prepare-to-dive-into-the-throne-of-the-tides-mini-set
Prepare to dive into the Throne of the Tides Mini-Set!
Fight for the Throne of the Tides in Hearthstone’s all new,
35-card Mini-Set!
Diablo Immortal:
Two blogs are out:
[4:11 PM]
Diablo Immortal - Your Roadmap to Hell ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23788298/diablo-immortal-your-roadmap-to-hell
Diablo® Immortal™—Your Roadmap to Hell
Are you ready for Hell? Diablo Immortal will
soon launch—browse our handy roadmap to Hell to get the latest
knowledge on launch times for your region, PC pre-load
information, and more.
[4:11 PM]
Making a Game for Anyone - Diablo Immortal's Accessibility
Features ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23805083/making-a-game-for-everyone-diablo-immortal-s-accessibility-features
Making a Game For Everyone—Diablo Immortal’s
Accessibility Features
We want Hell to be accessible to everyone—gaze
into the flames to see how Diablo Immortal’s accessibility
features aid this effort.
[4:12 PM]
Lord of the Rings
Online:
Update 33.0.5 came out this week. ---
https://www.lotro.com/update-notes/lotro-update-33-0-5-release-notes-en
The Lord of the Rings Online
Update 33.0.5 Release Notes
Here are the Release Notes for Update 33.0.5,
released on Wednesday, May 25th, 2022.
Support for MacOS is coming to an end. ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-macos-deprecation-en
The Lord of the Rings Online
MacOS Client Deprecation
For several years players have been able to
play The Lord of the Rings Online in pre-Catalina versions of
MacOS with limited support from Standing Stone Games, but we will
soon be formally deprecating the MacOS client.
Players who wish to play LOTRO in MacOS can use
a dual boot solution through Windows. After August 25th, 2022, no
further suppor...
[4:12 PM]
That's it for my gaming news :}
Varda — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
Thank you, Eonwe. That was fast!
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
9.2.5 is coming out on Wednesday
[4:12 PM]
you forgot that in wow news
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
Nope, it's up there as the first link in the list of links to
check out :}
[4:13 PM]
It's Tuesday, May 31st for us :}
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
oh right .. anyway we are looking forward tro that as it will
bring a new heritage questline set in Ghostlands for Horde which
we want to integrate in our rp
[4:14 PM]
since we are home there
Varda — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
Also in LotRO: The Buried Treasure event begins today and runs
through May 30.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
Ah yes. And the Dark Iron were getting one for Alliance, right?
Varda — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
LotRO: Bridles! The new bridles are not the old Legendary Items
but come with stats already. Barter for them from the Eastemnet
Miscellany Quartermasters in various Rohan hubs.
[4:15 PM]
(I grabbed some on two characters in Snowbourn - quartermaster is
in blue kind of northerly in town.)
Problems with the 64 bit game client? "Fixed an issue with the
user preferences that was preventing many people from launching
the 64-bit game client. The 32-bit and 64-bit game client will now
share a single UserPreferences.ini file."
Fixes for RK and LM classes.
The Landroval kin house now has both types of crafting ingredient
crates: one for non VIP and one for VIP. (VIP can use both.)
LotRO players present in the kin branches this past week:
Landroval server:
Dis
Elwing
Eonwe
Fangorn
Ioreth
Irmo
Lenwe
Nar
Thranduil
Varda
Anor server:
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda
Shadowfax server:
Arien
Varda
Treebeard server:
Varda
[4:16 PM]
Ok, giving a space here for other games, news, requests. Fire
away!
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
My captain is 30 now for the title on Shadowfax
[4:17 PM]
so hope to get there by the next fortnight or trying to
Varda — Yesterday at 4:18 PM
Nice!
[4:18 PM]
On to...
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Tolkien!
[4:18 PM]
I have a Tolkien Moment for you that
is near and dear to my heart. : )
[4:19 PM]
Afterwards, Arien has a research question for the group, so don't
let me forget to call on you!
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
Reeeeesearch!
Varda — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
This is only 3 sentences, but when JRRT writes 3 sentences...
[4:19 PM]
The Silmarillion, "Ainulindale", 4th paragraph:
[4:20 PM]
"Then the voices of the
Ainur, like unto harps and lutes, and pipes and trumpets, and
viols and organs, and like unto countless choirs singing with
words, began to fashion the theme of Iluvatar to a great music;
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:20
PM
He manages to write longer sentences than i do
Varda — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
and a sound arose of
endless interchanging melodies woven in harmony that passed
beyond hearing into the depths and into the heights,
and the places of the dwelling of
Iluvatar were filled to overflowing, and the music and the echo
of the music went out into the Void, and it was not void.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
So does William Faulkner...he had one sentence that was a full,
several line paragraph in length...
Varda — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
"Never since have the Ainur
made any music like to this music, though it has been said that
a greater still shall be made before Iluvatar by the choirs of
the Ainur and the Children of Iluvatar after the end of days.
"Then the themes of Iluvatar shall be
played aright, and take Being in the moment of their utterance,
for all shall then understand fully
his intent in their part, and each shall know the comprehension
of each,
and Iluvatar shall give to their
thoughts the secret fire, being well pleased."
End quote.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:21 PM
So this is just a practice run, really.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:22 PM
It's a teaching time. : )
This spot tells the theme of hope, and the reason music is so
powerful in the stories.
And what Phar said. : )
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
I think that your quote, Varda, goes to the heart of many
questions that people have about the fate of the Men and the Elves
after the end of Arda....I think it is clearly stated here that
the Elves and the Men and the Dwarves, as well as all "Children of
Iluvatar" will have a great mingling at the end. Elves and Men
will not be separated forever, beyond the end of Arda.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
Aye.
[4:23 PM]
Assuming all goes well.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
So tell me....why do so many people say that the separation of Men
and Elves is permanent?
Varda — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
Two reasons.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
I think they forgot about the beautiful quote you gave us above!
Varda — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
There is another area where the elves will not return if Men mess
it up. Have to go find that one for you sometime.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
I wonder whether the orcs , if they are corrupted Elves, will be
restored then to their original selves and be able to return to
their people?
Varda — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
And the other reason is they separate after the loss of bodies for
a time, the elves remaining in Valinor (or as shades on Arda), and
the humans leaving the circles of the world. But later all will
return for the final song creating the new Arda.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
or whether it is goiing to be like humans and forsaken
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Not sure about being restored per se, Arien, but I don't think any
amount of Melkor-made corruption is enough to truly change the
fate Illuvatar has in mind for them.
[4:26 PM]
So I assume they will rejoin at the end.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Please do. But as Finrod Felagund points out in his conversation
with Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, he, for one, certainly believed
that Men would not screw it up. Also, Legolas points out to Gimlie
in the RK, that the seed of Luthien shall never fail, suggesting
that there will always be some good men I(and women) around to
pull all the chestnuts out of the first.
[4:27 PM]
No! Tolkien is emphatic about that. Melkor cannot completely
destroy anything good that Eru made...it is simply beyond his
ability, and his attempts to do so will only redound to his
undoing at the end.
[4:28 PM]
That is why the Orcs are such a metaphysical problem for everyone.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
to the patterns of Eru in the music.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Which is why I think they'll join the other Children at the end.
Just because they're corrupted in this world doesn't mean they
won't know "their part" in the final song.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Thus cold gives rain and air the chance to make snowflakes and
increase the friendship of Manwe and Ulmo.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Absolutely!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Though their part might surprise them
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Indeed...as all our deeds, in the long run, surprise us.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Orc and elf and man and dwarf singing hand in hand
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:30 PM
If there is estel for Orcs, there is estel for all of us, as
well...despite our numerous failings
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:30 PM
As I recall, in some later parts of HoME it's said that while
Elves will actually live in the new Arda, Men will be visitors.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:30 PM
Don't forget the Hobbits! They will be there too.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:31 PM
well it is said they are descendants of some humans . was it of
the House of Beaor?
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:32 PM
Maybe Haleth?
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:32 PM
Haleth yes that was it
[4:32 PM]
house of Haleth
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:32 PM
Like the pukelmen?
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:32 PM
Yup...they are supposedly descendants of Haleth as well.
[4:33 PM]
And the Dunlendings, and the Dead Men...
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:33 PM
poor Haleth .. all the people that are seemingly deformed come
from her ..
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
I think that the fact that so many of her household survived into
the Third Age is a testament to some of that House's redeeming
qualities. They are a hardy bunch, to be sure.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Simple and friendly is not a bad thing
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
aye
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
The Hobbits are not simple, in most senses of the term, but they
are certainly friendly.
[4:36 PM]
As a matter of fact, if you think about it, unlike most men, I do
not believe that any of Haleth's descendants ever turned to evil.
???
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:36 PM
Don't recall anything suggesting Hobbits or pukel-men coming from
the House of Haleth.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:36 PM
I need to do some research on that to find out where I saw it.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:36 PM
I don't remember the Hobbits, but pretty sure the Druedain were
confirmed somewhere.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
The Druedain were around in the First Age, and friendly with the
the houses of the Edain that were considered Numenoreans.
[4:38 PM]
UT has a section on the Druedain, I just can't get to my book
right now.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:38 PM
Fair enough. They likely mingled though.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:38 PM
Unfinished Tales...Chapter on the Druedain. It specifically
states that they are descended from the House of Haleth.
Any Merry thought that the Druedain in the forest reminded him of
the Pukel men...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:38 PM
I want to compare it to Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals but that
feels offensive to the Druedain.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:39 PM
I think they deserve better than that...AS Ghan-buri-Ghan says,
"We are not children."
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:39 PM
Well, neither were the Neanderthals
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
Wait one moment! Do not the Lake Town men live on stilts in the
lake, just as the Neanderthals supposedly did?
Varda — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
Ok, on to Arien's topic.
While she can still be here.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
From UT on the Druedain:
"The Strangest of all the
customs of the Folk of Haleth was the presence among them of a
people of a wholly different kind... They were not many, a few
hundred maybe, living apart in families or small tribes, but in
friendship, as members of the same community."
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
and the lake forms a neat link in fact
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
So with the folk of Haleth, but not really of the Folk of Haleth.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:43 PM
Thank you Eonwe , and Varda and Sandalf and Phari .. that was
interesting
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:44 PM
(I fought to get my book off my shelf, so there you go :})
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:44 PM
yay for winners !
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at
4:45 PM
There is a supposed Neanderthal village for you..
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/980587722559336458/th-3729345638.jpg
Arien Valar — Yesterday at
4:46 PM
Right my question is .. a chronological order of points where
ships were crucial for the history of Middleearth .. and sandalf
that does not look simple to me . in fact it looks a lot like
Esgaroth
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
At first glance, building over the water seems a good use of
space, but I wonder at the longevity of wooden poles in water.
[4:46 PM]
but now switching over to Arien's topic
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:47 PM
I do not think that the Neanderthals were in any way simple...did
you know that their cranial capacity, especially in the frontal
lobes, was greater than that of modern men and women?
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:47 PM
as for that .. the poles is what survives Phari .. the remains of
such a village have been found in Lake Constance
Varda — Yesterday at 4:47 PM
dipped in La Brea tarpits
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:47 PM
Right. Tar should help.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:47 PM
They really got around, then...
Arien Valar — Yesterday
at 4:48 PM
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Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:48 PM
I traveled right by Lake Constance on my way to Oberstdorf in
1970...beautiful.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
Sorry, gotta quote this real quick on the Druedain:
"Sometimes these images
were strange and fantastic, or even fearful: among the grim
jests to which they put their skill was the making of
Orc-figures which they set at the borders of the land, shaped as
if fleeing from it, shrieking in terror."
Auros approves of their sense of humor
:}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:50 PM
Certainly creative :)
Arien Valar —
Yesterday at 4:52 PM
https://www.pfahlbauten.com/
Lake dwelling museum at lake of constance
Lake dwelling museum at lake of constance
[4:52 PM]
i wanted this
[4:52 PM]
an english webssite
[4:53 PM]
Now then .. folks sltill up for
the ship listing or is it too late for that :)?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
Right, what was it, chronological list of ship-related history?
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
chronological list
[4:54 PM]
but the second works as well
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
I said of, not or
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:55 PM
oh yes hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:55 PM
Well, the Valar didn't really use boats... so the exodus of Elves
from Middle-earth to Valinor was probably the first time such
vessels were involved.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:56 PM
Aye
[4:56 PM]
the next thing would be the burning ships at Alqualonde i think
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:57 PM
And the taking of what remained, only to be burned on the other
side of the ocean.
[4:58 PM]
I don't think they were particularly important throughout most of
the war in Beleriand, though the refugees making their way to
Balar would send boats from there to find Valinor.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:59 PM
Okay we keep that in mind though.
Varda — Yesterday at 4:59 PM
Stars were sailboats.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Morgoth didn't seem particularly interested in waging naval
battles. Probably afraid Ulmo was ready to sink his ships if he
tried.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Ah of course! And the sun and moon had vessels of their o wn.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Then we put them after the Exodus of the Elves before the burning
of the shjips
or before actually
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
Although, he didn't really need a blockade since the Valar had
shut the Noldor out anyway, and "in the scales of his malice"
couldn't imagine any form of mercy coming from them.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
since the stars were created as guiding lightsx for the Elves
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
The sun went up after the burning, right? When the Noldor were
already marching on Thangorodrim.
onwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
The sun came up as Fingolfin and his people arrived into Beleriand
after crossing the Helcaraxë.
[5:04 PM]
Fingolfin beat on Morgoth's door for a few minutes, realized no
one was home, and went about his business. No sale of the Noldor's
patented home alarm system that day.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
"Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, Eru?"
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Morgoth: "I met him, and he won't let me do what I want!"
[5:06 PM]
But aye, some new stars made for the awakening of the Elves, also
some older ones brought together into constellations. Valacirca
for one.
[5:07 PM]
Then the Exodus aka "The Great March". A giant island used as a
ship until the Valar got tired of ferrying Elves to Aman.
Then anyone who still wanted to get there had to use a ship.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
They made swan-ships, as I recall.
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
The Falmari <= Teleri under Olwë
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
Solosimpi
[5:09 PM]
I will never forget that name.
Varda — Yesterday at 5:09 PM
You guys are fun, heh, but I need to skeedaddle*
confused gavel tries to figure whether to run to Eonwe or the
hammerpad
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
places Eonwe on the hammerpad
Varda — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
the hammerpad slips up next to it and it falls
but Eonwe can stop anything
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
stops because he's been informed it's hammertime
Varda — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
Annnnnd
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
can't touch this
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Varda — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
After-meeting!
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
There you go, a bad joke. It's y'all's own fault :}
Varda — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
Free chat, with Eonwe obviously worthy to wield the hammer.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Sandalf13 is still here!
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
a team gavel
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Is the hammer like thor's hammer?
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
:}
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
a very funny team gavel hehe
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
It would take a team to lift that, it would.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
:)
Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
One needs only to be worthy. : )
Namarie for now!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
namarie!
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Namarie, Varda!
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Namarie Varda !
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Take care Varda :}
Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
blaze of joyous light flares up and is gone
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
lifts up Eonwe I can't carry the gavel for you, but I can
carry you!
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Oy.
*rolling eyes*
[5:13 PM]
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
:}
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
ooops that was Sam and Frodo wan ' t it ?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
It was
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:14 PM
Indeed.
[5:15 PM]
I doubt that Eonwe would feel as light to Ar as Frodo did to
SAm...after all, Sam wondered about whether it was Frodo's long
wanderings in the wild, or the Ring eating at this fea and hroar,
but he found Frodo as light as a Hobbit child.
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:17 PM
shall we call it the Hand of the Valar? I can t imagine that Frodo
lost such a lot of weight , all though he did not eat while
at the orcs' tower
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:17 PM
I agree with you, Arien. I seem to remember that Sam also thought
it was a final gift to him from the Valar...to have the strength
to get frodo where he needed to go...
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:18 PM
indeed aye
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:19 PM
Could be both: Frodo lost alot of weight, but Sam wouldn't have
been in much better condition. Then again, the lembas really shine
when that's what you're relying on.
[5:20 PM]
The lembas themselves were a gift from the Valar: the fact that
the corn used to make them was still potent throughout the
Noldorin exile was said to be a mercy.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:21 PM
Also Sam did not have the weight of the Ring hanging on
him...except for the few brief minutes when he took the Ring to
fulfill the Quest...before he knew that Frodo was still alive. Not
a very long tine.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:23 PM
Well, I suppose we'll continue Arien's chronology next week?
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:23 PM
I should think so
[5:23 PM]
My brain is not that awake anymore hehe
[5:24 PM]
but it was already useful
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:24 PM
I need to turn my attention elsewhere anyway.
[5:24 PM]
Ar and Phar, don't forget the R(P) :}
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:24 PM
oki
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:24 PM
Namarie, Eonwe! Good luck with your attention elsewhere.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:25 PM
I couldn't! I visit the forum every day to see if there's anything
new
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:25 PM
:}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:25 PM
Though I suppose you mean we shouldn't forget to contribute
Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:25 PM
Both :}
[5:25 PM]
Auros will be involved in the story again soon. :}
[5:26 PM]
Take care, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:26 PM
right back at you.
[5:27 PM]
Sei gesund!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:27 PM
Namarie!
Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:27 PM
Namarie all! Stay safe !
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:27 PM
Namarie Arien
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:27 PM
Namarie, Arien!
[5:29 PM]
Are you still here, Ar? How are you doing?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
Pretty good, playing a level in a Flashgame before I open up
Hearthstone.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
Everyone is healthy out your way?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
As far as I know, yes!
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
Wonderful!
[5:31 PM]
I am still struggling to learn how to play LoTRO. It is not easy
for me.
[5:32 PM]
I played on the Landroval server the week before last, but I was
pretty busy with work this past week.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:32 PM
Well, at least you're getting started Enjoying it, at least?
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:33 PM
Yes...when I can figure out what I am doing!
[5:34 PM]
I told Varda that I really think that I need to find
someone who plays this game in the local area, so I can perhaps
treat them to some coffee/dessert for some on-hand lessons. I wish
there was some way I could figure out if there are any players in
my local area.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:37 PM
Don't know about that. You could ask around on a forum perhaps.
But I'm sure online help can also be found
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:37 PM
I left a message for the LoTRO support desk, asking them if they
had any references for teaching tools on how to use the game. I
left my E-Mail address, but have not heard back as of yet.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:41 PM
Might work, but I suggest focusing on official forums, to maybe
get player advice. I know for World of Warcraft there are
comprehensive websites, but I don't know if anything of similar
scale is available for LotRO.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:42 PM
I shall keep trying, in the meantime. It is Memorial Day weekend
here, and tomorrow is the actual holiday....so a free Monday. I
will be on LoTRO again tomorrow...Now that have gotten
Chapter 3 (Geology of Middle-earth) to Varda, I can proceed a bit
slower on Chapters 7 and 8. I am still waiting to hear back from
one of my geologic reviews....wo have already responded.
[5:43 PM]
that is to say, "two" of my geologic reviewers...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:43 PM
good results so far?
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:44 PM
Yes. I am encouraged. I hope I do not have to make too many
changes, so Varda can go ahead and upload the whole damn
thing...then I can finally break into some new territory.
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 6:04 PM
Well... I need to move on to my next project...studying German
irregular verbs....you know the bit. Hope you are healthy and
enjoying a wonderful weekend. Sei gesund!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 6:04 PM
good luck! and namarie
Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 6:05 PM
Vielen Danke! Ich bin jetzt auf zu meiner Liste von deutsche
irregelmäsigen Verben! Tschüßi und Namarie!
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Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 6:10 PM
Personal gaming report:
[6:10 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, this week you can have
https://www.kongregate.com/games/toweld/four-color-theorem-coloring-puzzle-game
Kongregate
Four Color Theorem - Coloring Puzzle Game
In mathematics, the four color theorem, or the
four color map theorem, states that, given any separation of a
plane into contiguous regions, producing a figure...
[6:11 PM]
Based on the theorem that within any configuration of regions on a
map, you'll never need more than 4 colors to have all adjacing
regions in diffrent colors.
[6:12 PM]
If that doesn't explain it, just try it A whole bunch of
levels for you to color, making sure each color doesn't touch the
same color. And there's randomly generated daily levels as well to
drive the point of the theorem home even more!
[6:14 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
[6:15 PM]
Hearthstone:
Level 77 on the reward track. Still going strong.
[6:16 PM]
Saving up gold, but there's a 2000 gold miniset coming up in a few
days, so I'll be able to buy that when I hit 2k
[6:17 PM]
Both the rogue and the warrior have reached 300 wins now, once
again at the bottom of the matchmaking rating. But that's fine!
[6:18 PM]
Oh, and as mentioned, I had a quest to spectate a friend's
victory, and apparently Fladrif getting third place in
battlegrounds was enough Looked quite impressive, too!
[6:19 PM]
Brawl is a heroic arena, which I always skip, so instead I
completed a few duels for the weekly quest. Had some nice success
with a secret-hunter.
[6:21 PM]
For mercenaries, some more leveling, including getting Jaina her
first bunch of levels. Also got a pack from one merc's Task 16,
which got me a new one unlocked, Xuen, the white tiger
[6:22 PM]
WoW:
[6:24 PM]
In heroic raiding, Halondrus down! Opening the path to the last
boss of this first section, Anduin Wrynn himself. Not much more
complicated than his normal version, but everything hits harder
and given how difficult he already was on normal, we might take a
while to take him down. We're having more trouble getting the adds
down on time, but phase-wise his own health seems to go down fast
enough. Hopefully shouldn't take very long.
[6:25 PM]
With 9.2.5 coming we're not sure how much longer we've got to take
down the Jailer, but season 4 should launch later in the summer,
so we've got time still.
[6:26 PM]
Weekly is timewalks, which are always fun, especially since I got
Azjol-Nerub twice, which is short-ish and quite interesting
[6:27 PM]
Also yet another shoulder appearance from a Torghast boss, the
Veiled Tormentor's Mantle. Gotta collect em all!
[6:29 PM]
And more alting time! Had good fun on the mage, sending her into
the Maw where she hit level 49, and then onwards to Oribos. She's
currently exploring the place through that short questline, but
should be ready for Bastion soon. When she reaches that place,
though, I think I'll switch to the paladin and play through all 4
main zones.
And that's my report for the week!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 8:08 PM
namarie
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