Sandalf13 — Today at
3:38 PM
Hallo All! We had snow on Thursday morning, and today is almost
70 degrees F. We expect rain starting Tuesday, ending with snow
on Thursday. Life is interesting, shall we say. I am at the
Telegraph Mill, enjoying a cooling cup of Granita...sort of like
a frozen slush, but flavored with slightly sweetened coffee and
espresso. Very tasty!
Varda — Today at 3:39 PM
yay sort of coffe!!
[3:39 PM]
Weather's been up and down here too, temp and rain
Sandalf13 — Today at 3:40 PM
As we wait for the meeting to begin, I am continuing my work on
the Geology of Middle-earth, and am busy writing up the location
of Dwarven mining projects as mentioned in The Hobbit and the
LoTR as a reference point for establishing the locations of iron
mining districts within Arda.
Sandalf13 — Today at 3:55 PM
Are you waiting too, Arien?
Varda — Today at 4:01 PM
Aiya
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:01 PM
Aiya!!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:01 PM
Aiya!
Varda — Today at 4:01 PM
The gang tends to wait by gaming. : )
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:01 PM
Not me...I wait by writing.
Varda — Today at 4:01 PM
Sandalf and Phar, aiya : )
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:01 PM
Yup, we've been fighting Anduin himself :)
[4:02 PM]
(not the river)
Varda — Today at 4:02
PM
joke falls in the drink
[4:02 PM]
I tend to get meeting notes ready if not done yet.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:02 PM
Heya.
Varda — Today at 4:02 PM
Eonwe!
[4:03 PM]
gavel leaps happily to Eonwe's very polished side of the
table
[4:03 PM]
I shall go flop back down again but will come back and forth to
see Discord. : )
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:03 PM
One moment then I'll begin.
[4:04 PM]
Going to make this a quick one, heh.
[4:06 PM]
Ok here we go.
[4:06 PM]
@Bounder Meeting Begins!
[4:06 PM]
Elen
Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
[4:06 PM]
[4:07 PM]
Everyone here, with the exception of Varda, say Romendacil and
be counted :}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:08 PM
Romendacil
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:08 PM
Romendacil.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:08 PM
For member news, I spent one more covid week at home, but I
think it's over now
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:08 PM
Are you feeling better?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:09 PM
Yep. Had some throat and nose issues still throughout the week
but feeling a lot better today.
[4:09 PM]
Guess it's back to work on tuesday
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:09 PM
Wunderbar!
[4:09 PM]
:)
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:10 PM
Glad you're doing better Phar, and aye, guess that means work is
near... watches out for flying tomatoes
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:11 PM
Not sure where you work, but for me flying tomatoes are not a
common hazard.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:11 PM
What about the flying tomato fight held in Spain annually?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:12 PM
(Referring to [Ph]ar and near :} I assumed the joke was Phar
from funny :})
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:12 PM
...totally missed that one
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:13 PM
Doing better by Phar? :}
Sandalf13 — Today at
4:13 PM
It is NOT tomato season in Nebraska...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:13 PM
hehe
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:14 PM
It's the rain in Spain that stays mainly on the plain. I think
the flying tomatoes stay mainly in Italy.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:14 PM
Roma Tomatoes make the BEST tomato paste...
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:15 PM
Anyway, Any other Membership news? :}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:16 PM
Fladrif spotted in Hearthstone, and observed for a quest
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:16 PM
A walking tree sighting :}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:16 PM
He also told me he hit platinum rank there for the first time
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:17 PM
Cool :}
[4:18 PM]
[4:18 PM]
Nothing, yet :}
[4:19 PM]
World of Warcraft:
This week's Bonus Event: Pet Battles.
The PvP Brawl: Classic Ashran runs through Tuesday, March 22nd.
[4:19 PM]
Burning Crusade Classic: The Gods of Zul'Aman Arrive March 22.
---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23783585/burning-crusade-classic-the-gods-of-zulaman-arrive-march-22
World of Warcraft
Burning Crusade Classic: The Gods of Zul'Aman Arrive March 22 -
WoW
Learn everything you need to know about the next content phase
of Burning Crusade Classic, arriving March 22
[4:19 PM]
The Trial of Style is going through March 24th. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22327256/the-trial-of-style-has-begun-hows-your-strut
World of Warcraft
The Trial of Style Has Begun: How's Your Strut? - WoW
Styles from all around the Shadowlands are all the rage, but is
your transmog the flavor of the moment? Or is it a timeless
couture classic? You’ll be able to find out during the Trial of
Style, taking place March 20–24! Prepare to strut your stuff in
a head-to-head fashion face-off and see who can put it all
together—for the win!
[4:19 PM]
Check out the latest hotfixes. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23770463/hotfixes-march-18-2022
World of Warcraft
Hotfixes: March 18, 2022 - WoW
Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various
issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Burning
Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.
[4:20 PM]
Lord of the Rings
Online:
The Spring Festival is going. --- https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-guides-spring-festival-en
The Lord of the Rings Online
Celebrate Spring in The Lord of the Rings Online!
The Spring Festival ushers in warmer days and the start of the
planting season, and players throughout Middle-earth can
celebrate with rewards, quests, and more! This guide will get
you started earning Festivity Tokens, Spring Leaves, and other
rewards.
A new Producer's
Letter from Raninia came out this week. ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-producer-letter-march-2022-en
The Lord of the Rings Online
A Letter from Producer Raninia – March 2022
Hello again! It’s time to update y’all again on what we have
going on!
[4:20 PM]
Overwatch:
Check out the Overwatch 2 PvP Beta FAQ. ---
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23788534/overwatch-2-pvp-beta-frequently-asked-questions/
Overwatch
Overwatch 2 PvP Beta – Frequently Asked Questions
Learn more information about the Overwatch 2 Closed PvP Beta!
[4:20 PM]
Hearthstone:
Patch 22.6 is out. --- https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23765275/22-6-patch-notes
22.6 Patch Notes
Prepare for Hearthstone’s next expansion: Voyage to the Sunken
City!
[4:20 PM]
Hearthstone's next expansion, Sunken City is announced to launch
April 12th. ---
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23765277/announcing-voyage-to-the-sunken-city-hearthstone-s-next-expansion
Announcing Voyage to the Sunken City, Hearthstone’s Next
Expansion!
Dive into the watery unknown in search of sunken treasures and
Colossal adventures.
[4:21 PM]
Pardon, my mistake: LotRO report from Varda:
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:21 PM
I recommend the intro video for the hearthstone expansion, btw.
It's one of their best.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:21 PM
(Players popping to their kin characters this week:)
Ioreth — Today at 4:23 PMLandroval server:
Eonwe
Fangorn
Ioreth
Lenwe
Nar
Thranduil
Varda
Anor server:
Eonwe
Varda
Shadowfax server:
Varda
Treebeard server:
Varda
Eonwë Valar — Today at
4:24 PM
Heya Ioreth :}
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:24 PM
Or should I say, "Aiya, wise-woman of Gondor?"
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:26 PM
Before moving to Tolkien, I'll note the
the greatest hero of all time has his new game coming out this
Friday.
[4:26 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3LAkr0ANgw
YouTube
Nintendo
Kirby and the Forgotten Land – Announcement Trailer – Nintendo
Swit...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:27 PM
Ah, that one
[4:29 PM]
Looks neat!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:30 PM
I tried the demo. A little disappointed that the camera is
locked into one angle with very little wiggle room (literally
just a bit of wiggle to left or right) but the gameplay itself
is fun.
[4:32 PM]
Anyway...
[4:32 PM]
[4:32 PM]
Any Tolkien topics anyone has, or shall I make up something on
the spot?
[4:34 PM]
Ok, you asked for it. Here's mine then, with no wind-up or
context :}
Shelob — Today at 4:34 PM
Oh right. DST and stuff.
[4:34 PM]
Aiya!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:34 PM
Aiya
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:34 PM
Heya Shelob.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:34 PM
Next week it'll be normal again, Shel!
Sandalf13 — Today at
4:34 PM
Aiya Shelob!
[4:35 PM]
My youngest daughter has the actual name of "Shira," and one of
her nicknames is "She." Thought you might like to know, Shelob.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:36 PM
I'm staying a breath away from "Shelly".
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:36 PM
Did you know that the "Small Shelly Period" was a real period of
time before the explosion of life in the Cambrian, in which the
only recovered fossils are "small, shelly critters."
Shelob — Today at 4:37 PM
I might be a female version of a mix between Leonard and
Sheldon, but don't call me shelly.
[4:38 PM]
Besides, I'm a spider, not a turtle.
Ioreth — Today at 4:38 PM
There is a nice little in-game meeting on the Simm on Saturdays
on Landroval. Since it has been a long time since I read it and
I no longer have a copy I just sit and listen. I'm learning
some, wish my memory worked better.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:38 PM
So Trotter, before he woke up one day and realized he was a
Dunadan and not a Hobbit with wooden feet, still sounded pretty
enthused when he was telling the story of Beren and Luthien.
@Sandalf13
My youngest daughter has the actual name of "Shira," and
one of her nicknames is "She." Thought you might like to know,
Shelob.
Shelob — Today at 4:38 PM
That's a beautiful name Sandalf!
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:39 PM
Yes...but the spiders are members of the Chelicerata, one of the
four great groups of the Arthropods, the others being the
Crustaceans and the Insectivora. The Trilobites are,
unfortunately, extinct. So spiders (sort of) are related to the
small shelly creatures, as they are directly descended from
(some) of them.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:40 PM
I could call you Lobby if you insist on lobbying against Shelly!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:40 PM
That sounds like a lobster.
Arien Valar — Today at 4:41 PM
aiya all
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 4:41 PM
Aiya!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:42 PM
Heya Arien.
Shelob — Today at 4:42 PM
I'm neither lobster nor a crustacean. I'm an Arachnid. And on
the top of the Arachnid food chain I might add.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:42 PM
Spidey?
Arien Valar — Today at 4:42 PM
sorry forgot daylight saving again
Shelob — Today at 4:42 PM
Spidey is fine.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:43 PM
That'll work
Ioreth — Today at 4:44 PM
Here's the announcement for that meeting: (I'm looking for
their website so you can see the weekly homework assignments)
<quote>Leaves of Laurelin kinship is sponsoring a book
club to read and discuss The Silmarillion. We meet on Saturdays
at 8 pm server time (EST), in the Hall of Fire in Elrond's
house.</quote>
Arien Valar —
Today at 4:44 PM
is that on Lothar?
Ioreth — Today at 4:44 PM
Just found this as a link from their announcement:
https://youtu.be/gy7a6yUc8zo
YouTube
Willow Productions
Ainulindalë (J.R.R Tolkien Short Animation)
[4:45 PM]
It's the creation story.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:46 PM
Landroval, Arien. LotRO.
Arien Valar — Today at 4:46 PM
thats what i me;ant
Ioreth — Today at 4:48 PM
Varda came to it about a week ago. She liked it and thanked me
for mentioning it. How is she doing? When is she coming back?
Eonwë Valar — Today at
4:49 PM
She was here at the beginning of the meeting.
Ioreth — Today at 4:50 PM
aw, sorry I missed her. I was trying to take a picture of a
chicken when the alarm went off for the meeting.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/98425690877104128/955221877775806544/276220144_10224711423346263_6768699449095863614_n.png
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:51 PM
She may drop back in, just can't sit at the computer for too
long right now it would seem.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:51 PM
I am watching the video that Ioreth put up...wow.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 4:51 PM
Chickpics come first!
Arien Valar — Today at 4:52 PM
what happenened to Varda?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:53 PM
She mentioned last week she was having a surgery this past
Friday. She's recovering :}
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:53 PM
OMG! I did not know...I hope she recovers swiftly and surely.
Please send her my regards if you see her gaming, I shall try to
leave a message.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:54 PM
From last week:
I may be unable to attend next Sunday, but don't know yet.
Surgery Friday.
And I need to go take care of five hungry people now. : )
Sandalf13 — 03/13/2022
Hope it is just routie.
Ar-Pharazon-V — 03/13/2022
oh, good luck!
Varda — 03/13/2022
Thanks
Sandalf13 — 03/13/2022
routine. Sorry.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:54 PM
She's home, but can't sit at the pc too long because of it.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:55 PM
She was here long enough to say hi pass the gavel to me, so she
seems to be doing fine for the most part :}
Ioreth — Today at 4:56 PM
Sounds like what I had. I'm looking at one more surgery but I
seem to have a chair I can sit in just fine.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:56 PM
Thank you for the reminder. I did not realize that it would be
such a painful recovery.
Arien Valar — Today at 4:57 PM
I hope she ll get well soon or heal up soon .. but from
experience I know ithe recovery can be more painful than the
actual surgery or injury
[4:57 PM]
so all the best from here
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:58 PM
:}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:58 PM
Speaking of, appointment's been made for the wisdom teeth,
mid-july
[4:58 PM]
I'm trying not to think about it
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:58 PM
Good luck.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:58 PM
Wisdom teeth are not too bad...do one at a time, maybe?
@Arien Valar
— Today at 4:57 PM
I hope she ll get well soon or heal up soon .. but
from experience I know ithe recovery can be more painful than
the actual surgery or injury
Ioreth — Today at 4:58 PM
Definately
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 4:59 PM
Yes, that's what you suggested the first time I brought it up,
Sandalf, but I'd rather just get it over with
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:59 PM
Make sure that they give you a good supply of pain pills...
Ioreth — Today at 4:59 PM
I'm on a colonoscopy trip. If you are older than 45 or
black, get one.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 4:59 PM
Hmm, pain pills would be nice.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:00 PM
I have had two..one at age 58 and one at age 68. I did both
without a sedative. I got to see the pictures! I will never
forget the doctor saying to me..."Hey look! There is your
appendix!" Never thought I would see that from the inside.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:00 PM
I had one of those about 8 years ago, Ioreth, because of my
troubles. But they couldn't find anything. Pretty sure it's a
mechanical problem.
[5:00 PM]
And I did it with sedative
[5:01 PM]
Can't even remember it. Woke up on a temporary bed.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:01 PM
Good for you, Ar! I am glad that the results were
negative.
Ioreth — Today at 5:01 PM
I got to stay awake for my last one. I got it at a university
hospital so the doctor was more than happy to give a guided
tour!
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:01 PM
Exciting, isn't it?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:01 PM
Well, negative's not always a good thing (hah!), as it didn't
find any cause for my problems.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:02 PM
Well I think it's safe to declare Aftermeeting at this point :}
Ioreth — Today at 5:02 PM
well, kinda. But I'd rather that then sedative.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:02 PM
...I was still waiting for you to continue on the topic, Eonwe
Ioreth — Today at 5:02 PM
yeh, did you decide where we were going?
Sandalf13 — Today at
5:02 PM
Yes...but don't forget that the primary purpose of a colonoscopy
is to look for cancer....if you get a negative result for that,
wonderful...
Varda — Today at 5:03 PM
Hiya
[5:03 PM]
No topic?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:03 PM
Well, yes, okay, but in my case it was really about trying to
find out what was wrong, so if we'd found some blockage at least
it'd have been for something.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:03 PM
Hope that you feek better soon, Varda!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:04 PM
That was my topic, "without windup or context", hehe.
Varda — Today at 5:04 PM
Sounds like everyone has troubles. Mine is just one among the
many. : )
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:04 PM
Is that not part of life, in general?
Varda — Today at 5:04 PM
yep : )
[5:04 PM]
How about flying as a topic?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:04 PM
And since the conversation went to other matters, I figured
everyone was caught up with rightfully bigger discussions, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:05 PM
thinks about flying and holds back balrog wings
Varda — Today at 5:05 PM
The Ainur on Arda could fly at first.
[5:05 PM]
but then something big happened.
[5:06 PM]
And only the Valar Manwe and Varda and their Maiar could fly.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:06 PM
For those who missed it, my topic
was: "So Trotter, before he woke up one day and realized he was
a Dunadan and not a Hobbit with wooden feet, still sounded
pretty enthused when he was telling the story of Beren and
Luthien."
But please, feel free to pick a more engaging topic :}
Varda — Today at 5:06 PM
Balrogs were Maiar too, so they could have been able to fly at
first.
[5:06 PM]
Ahh, thanks : )
Ioreth — Today at 5:06 PM
(so there is a lore that we could have flying mounts in game!)
Varda — Today at 5:06 PM
Trotter, the early Aragorn, heh.
[5:06 PM]
Not really, since the game is during the War of the Ring.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:06 PM
Yes, Good thing Tolkien changed him into Aragorn.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:07 PM
Well, unless we're talking eagles or other birds, are you
suggesting training Ainur as mounts?
Varda — Today at 5:07 PM
However, they do have a few spots with eagles that fly you for a
special mission. : )
[5:07 PM]
Like Gwaihir, I refuse. : )
Ioreth — Today at 5:07 PM
just something. I have flying in my other games and miss it -
and I'm always getting lost
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:07 PM
Pch. In Guild Wars you can't even jump.
Varda — Today at 5:07 PM
We have lots of stables though. A few of them are eagle stables.
[5:08 PM]
heh, no jumping? gak
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:08 PM
Nope, gotta run along paths to get up ridges etc
Varda — Today at 5:08 PM
Anyway, does anyone remember why a lot of Ainur lost the
flying ability?
[5:08 PM]
You need a zip line or grappling hook, Phar.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:08 PM
Probably by linking themselves to Arda and focusing on non-airy
elements, I'd guess.
Varda — Today at 5:09 PM
Manwe and Varda linked to Arda, but kept flying.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:09 PM
As for Trotter.... I wonder what the tale would have looked like
if he remained Trotter.
Varda — Today at 5:09 PM
I see your point about airy topics.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:09 PM
I bet Boromir would've listened even less!
Varda — Today at 5:09 PM
Trotter woudl have been a hobbit, so a huge chunk of story
would disappear.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:09 PM
I do not think that Trotter's wooden feet would have sounded
good treading the rock floors of Gondor...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:10 PM
"Gandalf, is this the one you've brought to supplant me? He
can't even reach the seat of the throne!"
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:10 PM
After all, according to Ghan-buri-ghan, the Numernoreans ate
stone for food
Eonwë Valar — Today at
5:11 PM
I'm pretty sure the subject of losing the ability to fly didn't
come up in the Sil, just in versions of the tales in HoME.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:12 PM
I think you are right, Eonwe. When the topic first came up, I
was trying to recall my reading of the Sil, and could not
remember any references to the Valar and the Maiar flying...
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:12 PM
There's part of the tale at least as far as Eregion (that I've
read) where Trotter was still Trotter.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:12 PM
\
Varda — Today at 5:12 PM
Anyway, since Olorin worked for several Valar as a Maia, wasn't
one Varda? He may have been able to fly.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:12 PM
Isn't that in the History of Middle-earth, and NOT the Sil, UT,
or LoTR?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:13 PM
Now I'm thinking of making a gnome survival hunter called
Trotter...
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:13 PM
The Trotter stuff is from HoME VI: Return of the Shadow. That's
where I'm perusing right now, soon to move on to HoME VII.
Varda — Today at 5:13
PM
One part of the reason for flying loss was for those that used
their power for harm. Morgoth's folk lost flying for that
reason.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:13 PM
I have always thought that when Tolkien replaced Trotter with
Aragorn (nee Estel), he began to think how he could use Aragorn
and his life to express some of his deeply-held beliefs.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:16 PM
On flight: BoLT, if memory serves as well as it should, says
that the Ainur were bound to go no higher than the Second Air.
Manwë alone was permitted into the higher edges of the Second
Air/lower edges of the Third.
[5:17 PM]
Some of his spirits were allowed almost as high. Again, going by
memory here.
Varda — Today at 5:18 PM
back later, I hope
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:18 PM
Take care Varda.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:18 PM
take care hugs]
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:18 PM
I can't get to my books without a bit of a struggle right now.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:18 PM
Feel better, Varda!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:21 PM
Namarie Varda!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:21 PM
I need to call the meeting here, but before I do, I will leave
you all with this:
1
[5:22 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWxnHuVEwUg
YouTube
Sîdh Aníron
Tolkien narrates the Ride of the Rohirrim
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:22 PM
Where does that leave sun and moon, Eonwe? I don't recall if
they were spirits of Manwe, nor how high they sailed.
Sandalf13 — Today at
5:23 PM
I hope all of you have a wonderful week ahead! Namarie, all. I
will check in again after I get back online after dinner.
Time to bike home while the day is still so bright and
pleasant...
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:23 PM
They were in the Second Air, Ilmen, in the lower regions.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:23 PM
Ah.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:24 PM
Ride now! Ride now! Ride to Gondor!
[5:25 PM]
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 5:25 PM
A sword day, a red day, ere the sun rises
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:26 PM
:}
[5:29 PM]
Tilion in the Sil was a Maia of Oromë. Arien doesn't seem to say
who she served, but she tended to gardens of Vana, so probably a
Maia of Vana.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:30 PM
dramatic
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:30 PM
I suppose they would have needed to the ability to fly on their
own, as long as their vessels were capable of it.
Arien Valar —
Today at 5:30 PM
i ve got to translate Rohirrim from Feuerschwanz and post it to
you
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:30 PM
Still, it prevents the risk of falling off...
[5:30 PM]
*would not have
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:34 PM
Well, "fly" might be relative for spirits.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:36 PM
we know of Arien that "she was a maiden who in the days of the
Trees tended the Golden Flowers in the ganrden of Vana"
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:36 PM
Balrogs are very much putting their power in their physical
forms, like Morgoth. More bound to the rules of the natural
world. Sauron had no problem coming away from Numenor's wrack
all the way back to Mordor.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:36 PM
and that" she was mightier than Tilpion*
[5:37 PM]
err Tilion sorry there
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:37 PM
She was "in the beginning a spirit of fire."
Arien Valar — Today at 5:37 PM
aye mayabe one of Tulkas lot?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:39 PM
The implication I drew is that whatever lot the Balrogs came
from before their corruption, that's where she also came from.
She didn't fall for Melkor's lies.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:39 PM
aye
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 5:41 PM
So Arien is an uncorrupted Balrog. I like it
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:41 PM
lol
[5:42 PM]
Sadly, unless I'm missing something in HoME I - V, it doesn't
seem she was interested in either Tilion (when his interest was
deemed romantic rather than rivalry)(In the Sil it doesn't seem
to mention either way) or Fionwë. Never really thought about all
the unrequitted love in these stories until LotRO piled a bunch
of it all in one place and made me play through it, hehehehe.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:44 PM
Must be even worse for Ainur than for humans, if it can last for
countless millennia.
Varda — Today at 5:44 PM
Beats Poe who thought the most beautiful and sad topic was the
death of a beautiful woman. Unrequited means at least still
living.
[5:44 PM]
Good point, Phar
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:45 PM
Maybe once I get past the LotR books, there's something there
I've missed in the past, but I don't think I missed anything in
the prior books.
Varda — Today at 5:46 PM
Sorry, missed what?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:46 PM
Missed Arien expressing interest in either Tilion or Fionwë.
Varda — Today at 5:46 PM
Oh, no. Arien never seemed interested in Tilion or Fionwe or any
guy.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:46 PM
Talking about HoME.
Varda — Today at 5:46 PM
Guess she was more into her work.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:47 PM
That's what happens when you focus on your career.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:47 PM
Pretty much. Sad fate for anyone though, but such is real life
too. Doesn't mean I have to like it, heh.
Varda — Today at 5:49 PM
The dwarves had a similar problem.
The women were few, would fixate on just one male and none other
if he were unavailable, and quite a few were into just work.
Good way for a species to die out.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:50 PM
And yet they did multiply for a good while.
[5:50 PM]
Large litters perhaps?
Varda — Today at 5:51 PM
Hmm, don't know. Would be interesting. How many siblings did
Gimli have? : )
[5:52 PM]
We only hear about ones that affect the story line.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:52 PM
The family tree we have does not mention large amounts of
siblings, but it might just be the notable ones.
[5:53 PM]
Or families grew smaller in later ages, which would lead to a
decline.
[5:54 PM]
Heh, such things always remind me of two tribes mentioned in the
manual to Total Annihilation: Kingdoms.
[5:55 PM]
Two tribes that hated each other so much, the only way to be
considered a man would be to bring home a head from the other
tribe.
It said that only their women's exceptional fertility kept the
two tribes from dying out.
[5:58 PM]
There was some very nice lore in that manual, most of it
completely irrelevant to the game
Varda — Today at 5:58 PM
They'd need it.
[5:58 PM]
hah : )
Arien Valar — Today at 6:02 PM
Gimli Gloin s son .. none mentioned I think but that doesn t
mean he didn' t have any
Varda — Today at 6:02 PM
Aye
Ioreth — Today at 6:07
PM
There was one of the Dwarf rulers in game that I always thought
was a "him" and lately I heard someone call a "her". But the
game text says "he", I'm confused
Varda — Today at 6:13 PM
Dis is the only female they mentioned in the book
Eonwë Valar — Today at 6:13 PM
I would go by game text unless given extremely good reason to do
otherwise.
Varda — Today at 6:13 PM
In game, they recently started doing more female dwarves, you
can hear the voice.
[6:13 PM]
Aye, game text trumps.
Ioreth — Today at 6:16 PM
I notice that you can choose a gender in a stout axe, unless I
read that wrong
Varda — Today at 6:16 PM
I need to leave a it
[6:16 PM]
and that's right, Ioreth. Only Longbeards the originals are no
gender mentioned because can't tell apart.
[6:17 PM]
People griped so they got it.
Ioreth — Today at 6:18 PM
I like having the gender, it bothers me that I know someone is
playing a female dwarf and the game emotes and other
announcement call it a "he". With the stout axes at least it
should get the gender correct in the text
[6:19 PM]
It helps when the players dress typical of the gender, right now
I am looking at a Dwarf named, "Gerdetta" - sure sounds like it
should be a girl
[6:20 PM]
But s/he is wearing the starter clothes which is bigender
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:21
PM
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/calmoria
my female dwarf!
World of Warcraft
Calmoria - Character - WoW
Calmoria (Argent Dawn) ❮The High Guard❯ - 11 Dark Iron Dwarf
Elemental Shaman, 8 ilvl
Ioreth — Today at 6:21 PM
I think that female Dwarves should look a little like female
Knomes.
[6:22 PM]
I got excited when they released the Dark Irons and I saw their
hair, it is cool.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:23 PM
glowy at the tips
Sandalf13 — Today at 6:23 PM
Hallo! May I rejoin the Group?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 6:23 PM
Funnily enough, sure, for languages where an "a" ending
indicates female. As I recall, Tolkien actually says he adjusted
some Hobbit names to be -o endings for that reason, i.e.,
"Frodo" should be "Froda" in the actual Hobbit spelling.
Female Dwarves are supposed to be so like to male Dwarves that
they've virtually impossible to tell apart for anyone but other
Dwarves.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:23 PM
Frodo was called Maura in the "original" Westron.
Varda — Today at 6:23 PM
Sure Sandalf : )
Sandalf13 — Today at 6:23 PM
Thanks!
Varda — Today at 6:24 PM
Froda was correct as the actual peaceful ruler in real life
Eonwë Valar — Today at
6:24 PM
Thanks Phar :} Point still stands :}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:24 PM
Indeed
Varda — Today at 6:24 PM
and aye, Phar. Fun with name.s
[6:24 PM]
and my copy of Nature of Middle-earth came in!
[6:25 PM]
Going back and forth
Eonwë Valar — Today at 6:25 PM
That's what happens when my books are trapped where I can't get
them, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:25 PM
Grats Varda!
Varda — Today at 6:25 PM
Eowyn on the side chat reminds me that Discord can be used on
the phone : )
[6:25 PM]
Cenedra, thanks. : )
[6:26 PM]
Guess I'd better figure how to download it heh
Eonwë Valar — Today at 6:26 PM
Because we all need Melkor's Theme on our phones, heh.
Varda — Today at 6:26
PM
Don't let your books be trapped! I dragged mine down here when
making a new office ahead of surgery. Books can't get away!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:26 PM
I remember Maura because I named my 3 Marsuul pets from Legion
after Westron hobbits. Maura, Razanur and Kalimac.
Varda — Today at 6:26 PM
Melkor would like that, Eonwe
[6:26 PM]
Well done : )
Eonwë Valar — Today at 6:27 PM
Indeed he would and does.... ;}
[6:31 PM]
Re: Female Dwarves comment above -- I should probably say to be
clear, so alike to male Dwarves in clothing, voice, and the
phyisical appearance the average person is going to see.
As I recall, the quote from LotR mentions specifically clothing
when travelling, so the implication is they dress differently
inside their own mountain homes.
Ioreth — Today at 6:34 PM
ah, I didn't think of that.
[6:34 PM]
women in the old days pretended to be guys to ward off problems
- they still do in some situatons
[6:34 PM]
easier to be treated as equal if you dress as an equal
Arien Valar — Today at 6:50 PM
sure it is also a trick in mmos or well a safety measure for
some
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:55 PM
Even Shakespeare used it in Twelfth Night
Sandalf13 — Today at 6:58 PM
And Eowyn rode to the Battle of the Pelennor Fields dressed as a
man.
Arien Valar — Today at 6:58 PM
right .. bed time for me i fear
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 6:58 PM
Aw, namarie
Sandalf13 — Today at 6:58 PM
Namarie, Arien!
Arien Valar — Today at 6:58 PM
Take it slowly Varda and speedy recovery
[6:59 PM]
Namarie , Sandalf, Phari, Shelob , Ioreth , Eonwe and
Varda
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:27 PM
Are we still here?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:27 PM
I am.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:28 PM
Hello Ar! How are you?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:28 PM
Good
[7:28 PM]
You?
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:28 PM
I am glad to hear that.
[7:29 PM]
I am well, thanks... not bad for an old guy. I got my four mile
run in today, and rode my bike in the morning and afternoon. It
was nearly 70 degrees F here today. We had snow Thursday
morning, now it is 70, and we will have snow again later this
week. March on the Great Plains is always an adventure.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:29 PM
Indeed! But keeping busy I see.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:30 PM
As usual. Please forgive me, but I forgot...when is your
upcoming wisdom tooth (teeth) extravaganza?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:30 PM
Mid-July.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:31 PM
so you have time to mentally (and physically!) prepare
yourself....very good.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:31 PM
Eheh, or stress myself out.
Ioreth — Today at 7:31 PM
Namarie
Sandalf13 — Today at
7:31 PM
Don't do that! Wisdom tooth removal is fairly routine!
[7:31 PM]
Namarie, Ioreth! Nice to finally meet (sort of) you!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:31 PM
Not for me
[7:31 PM]
Namarie Ioreth!
[7:32 PM]
Really, I try not to think about it, which usually works
Ioreth — Today at 7:33 PM
I had 4 done at once and two of them were coming in from the
back of my jaw and two were trying to go under the teeth ahead
of them. I lived! My only complaint was my mom didn't know what
PRN meant and she was forcing me to take the pain pills whether
I wanted to or not. Boyfriend the EMT convinced her to leave me
alone and let me sleep it off.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:34 PM
You know yourself best, Ar, so I apologize for making
suggestions...you do what you need to do.
[7:34 PM]
Four at once? My two lower wisdom teeth were pulled one at a
time, but that was back in the very early 1970s.....no doubt the
procedures have improved since then.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:35 PM
Would be nice
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:37 PM
Do you have the chance to enjoy some good local coffee shops in
the NL, Ar?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 7:37 PM
I don't drink coffee, actually.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:37 PM
Tea?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:37 PM
Yep. But in my town it's usually just drinking tea at home
[7:37 PM]
I know in Amsterdam there's a lot of that stuff, though.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:37 PM
Do you have a preferred variety of tea?/
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:38 PM
Hard to say. I tend to try out every tea I come across, and I
love to switch things up. I suppose Earl Grey stands out a bit.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:38 PM
That is indeed a great standard...I like it too.
[7:39 PM]
I also enjoy English Breakfast Tea.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:39 PM
Hmm, that's our default standard. I usually have that with milk.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:40 PM
Good for you. BTW - Earl Grey tea...what a wonderful English
name. the modern "Earl" is descended from the Old English
"Eorl," which is also the name of "Eorl the Young," former
leader of Rohan.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:40 PM
Well, it was named after a British Earl
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:41 PM
Indeed. I wonder if there are any Greys left...
Varda — Today at 7:41 PM
Jean Grey? ; ) Pardon, heh
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:41 PM
he he.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:41 PM
I'd assume so. Descendants here and there.
Varda — Today at 7:42 PM
Slipped past the computer just now. Good to see you still having
fun chat. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:42 PM
Aiyata
Varda — Today at 7:42 PM
Yo : )
[7:42 PM]
Hantal
[7:43 PM]
skipping out again, but you know I'll read up!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:43 PM
Of course!
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:43 PM
Yes we are. Hope you are well! I Am working VERY hard on
Chp 3, but had a setback this past week. My BRAND NEW LAPTOP had
some issues and required a factory reset by Lenovo. I THOUGHT
that I had saved about 8 hours of work on Chp 3, but failed to
realize that I had not saved the additions...so they were lost.
I am just finishing up recreating the losses and getting on to
the final recapitulation.
Ioreth: cry emote
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:44 PM
Oof.
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:44 PM
You betcha, Digger!
Varda — Today at 7:44
PM
ack!
[7:44 PM]
8 hours. /headdesk
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:44 PM
Anyway...if that is the worst thing to happen this month, then I
got off easy.
Varda — Today at 7:44 PM
Goood point
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:45 PM
I think that you folks will enjoy my discussion of geology...it
is written for non-geologists, so I simplify some things, but I
am asking my geological reviewers to take that into account.
[7:49 PM]
OOPS! They are blinking the lights in the Eiseley Branch
Library! BTW - the library is named for Loren Eiseley, a
biologist and early ecologist...a native of Lincoln. I have
about 10 minutes left.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:49 PM
Better wrap up your work then before they pull the plug ;)
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:50 PM
Yes. Please let me wish you and Varda a wonderful week. Stay in
touch! II look forward to "seeing" you again next Sunday!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:50 PM
Same, namarie :)
Sandalf13 — Today at 7:50 PM
NAmarie!!! :)
@Sandalf13
Yes we are. Hope you are well! I Am working VERY
hard on Chp 3, but had a setback this past week. My BRAND NEW
LAPTOP had some issues and required a factory reset by Lenovo.
I THOUGHT that I had saved about 8 hours of work on Chp 3, but
failed to realize that I had not saved the additions...so they
were lost. I am just finishing up recreating the losses and
getting on to the final recapitulation.
Ioreth — Today at 7:51 PM
Ouch. I think I have my books backed up in four places, but I
haven't touched them in years.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 8:06 PM
Perrrrrsonal gaming report!
[8:07 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, here's https://www.kongregate.com/games/KekGames/unpuzzle
Kongregate
Unpuzzle
Clear levels piece by piece.
[8:08 PM]
One of my favorite puzzle series on the site, which I'll
probably link many times more, the unpuzzle series of which this
is the first has you disassembling a jigsaw puzzle one piece at
a time. Additional mechanics like links and directional arrows
are introduced as you go!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 8:22 PM
Blizzard gaming:
[8:24 PM]
Hearthstone:
Made it to rank 148 on the reward track :) Got me enough
gold to buy a new card back too, and chose the Grand Tournament
card back previously granted for pre-purchasing that expansion
some years ago.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 8:42 PM
Expansion has been announced, but the honor grind is still going
a little bit longer, and I completed it this week! Made it to
Grand Marshal, getting me the golden Drek'thar legendary card,
as well as an achievement which allowed me to choose another
tier 1 reward track hero skin. For which I chose Thrall's
Earthfury skin.
[8:43 PM]
So from now on I can take it easy again, no longer spending 2
hours a night trying to get honor :P
[8:44 PM]
There's a legendary questline going on around Brann, for which
you need to bounce around the many game modes, including
battlegrounds and duels which I usually never do, but for these
portrait rewards it's worth it :) So did that battleground
today, and the duels will be next week.
[8:50 PM]
Oh and I indeed got the Demon Hunter from 55 to 57, as expected.
But since I can play less now, the last 3 levels will take a
while longer :)
[8:51 PM]
Oh, and got another legendary, Blademaster Okami, free for
logging in after the expansion announcement. WoW players might
recognize him from the Nazjatar zone in the previous expansion
:)
[8:53 PM]
Brawl is Party Portals, taking place in Karazhan where everybody
gets a deck full of various minion-summoning portals. Randomness
abound, but got lucky
[8:54 PM]
For mercenaries, plenty more tasks and levels gained! Leveled a
variety of mercs, including Cairne Bloodhoof for whom I had
enough coins this week, and Trigore the hydra which hit level
30!
[8:56 PM]
WoW:
[8:58 PM]
Raiding continues! Two more bosses down on normal, Lihuvim and
Halondrus, the endbosses of each of the two sidewings, and
therewith unlocking the teleport to the last boss of this first
phase of the raid, Anduin. We've fought him a couple of times,
but it looks like a complicated fights, with hints of the Lich
King fight back in Northrend as well.
[8:59 PM]
Seems fun though!
[8:59 PM]
Weekly this week was pet battles, which actually went quite
smoothly for a change :)
[9:01 PM]
Oh, and I managed to get enough cosmic flux together from the
raid to upgrade both my legendary items to max level, the feral
pants as well as the guardian hat :)
[9:01 PM]
Torghast adamant vaults paid off! Got a new cloak appearance,
the Blackflame Skull Crescent, as well as the pet, Gilded
Darknight!
[9:04 PM]
And finally, alts! Had a bit of time again for that, and went
for the mage, getting her from level 43 to 45 in Azsuna and
Stormheim, and to 46 through a bit of class campaign.
[9:05 PM]
With a friend's help I got her dungeon quests done in Eye of
Azshara and two other dungeons of our choosing, continuing
through the mage campaign and getting two followers as rewards.
An Arcane Destroyer, and the famous Millhouse Manastorm!
[9:07 PM]
That little gnome really does get everywhere. I think you can
have him as a garrison follower, a brawl battle, a mage
champion, a hearthstone legendary and a hearthstone mercenary,
and I've probably missed him in a few other collectable places.
[9:08 PM]
Anyway, a few more quests remaining in the main class campaign,
including board missions and world quests which I'm currently
working on, and then I can start working towards the class
mount, though I suspect she'll hit 48 before then.
[9:09 PM]
And then it's off to the Shadowlands with her as my third
covenant alt!
[9:09 PM]
And that's my report for the week :)
Varda — Today at 9:46 PM
Thanks, Phar : )
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today
at 9:46 PM
Right :)
[9:46 PM]
Namarie!
Varda — Today at 9:49 PM
Namarie : )
