January 30, 2022
Sunday Meeting
5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Discord: Valar
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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for
Eastern.]
Attending (and typed): (6)
Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe
(presiding last part), Pallando,
Sandalf13, Varda (presiding first hour)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Travel fun
Web:
Gaming:
World
of Warcraft, Overwatch, Lord of the Rings Online, Eve Online
Tolkien:
Topic:
Magic in Tolkien's legendarium.
1. Galadriel didn't like the term "magic".
Why?
2. Are there other effects that we readers might
consider "magic" by our own understanding of the term?
3. Do we see underlying sources of the magical
effects used?
After-meeting:
More Tolkien chat
(non)Flashgaming
Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.
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Before-meeting
Sandalf13 — Today at 3:57 PM
Aiya all! I am here!
Varda — Today at 4:00 PM
Aiya : )
[4:01 PM]
@Bounder Hurray! Time to join up, say hi to old friends, extol the
virtues of your favorite game, and make your thoughts known on
Tolkien topics!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:01 PM
Salutations
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Varda — Today at 4:01 PM
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:01 PM]
Aiya Sandalf and Eonwe : )
[4:02 PM]
Hello from Fangorn, Elwing, Sauron, Gimli and Mrs. Gimli at our
house, as well. : )
[4:02 PM]
Membership:
[4:02 PM]
(see above)
[4:03 PM]
Anything anyone would like to mention for Membership news? Ski
slopes, crazy weather?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:05 PM
The skiing was great...did some of the best skiing of my life -
despite my age - on Wednesday. 15 runs, 10 black, 5 blue. Thursday
- not so good. Snowy and low visibility. I only got in 6 runs
because my friend crashed and needed to get home...3 blue, 3
black. The trip home Friday was perfect...clear blue sky, cold,
sunny...light traffic. I am thankful, and I could not ask for
more. I am glad to be back, though, and here with you all.
Varda — Today at 4:06 PM
Congratulations on super-skiing! Sounds amazing! Sorry about Del
and hope he's ok?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:07 PM
Yes. It just so happens that our time at the Library coincides
today, and he is sitting a couple of desks away catching up on the
newspapers he missed while he was gone.
Varda — Today at 4:07 PM
Very good. : )
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:07 PM
It is a perfect day to be online with Tolkien...we have a blue sky
again, very few clouds, and a bright, golden sun.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:08 PM
So, you're saying.. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a
beautiful day for a neighbor? :}
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:08 PM
Indeed I am!
Varda — Today at 4:09 PM
Perfect here too, and for the last few days. Cold front should be
coming in tomorrow with rain and freezing temperatures, maybe long
enough to kill the flea and mosquito eggs that hide out during the
"winter".
[4:09 PM]
hehe - really liked him. : )
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:09 PM
How cold will it get?
Varda — Today at 4:09 PM
You would probably call it shirt-sleeve weather, figuring at least
down into 32 F to help us out.
[4:10 PM]
69 F right now.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:10 PM
Yes...that is very warm for January in Lincoln, usually. I ran in
shorts and a light sweatshirt yesterday.
Varda — Today at 4:11 PM
We feel the temperature difference because it's such a change.
Dropping 40 degrees is noticeable. Normal swing in a day is 10.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:11 PM
It will be below zero again F on Thursday and Friday evening
coming up this week....
[4:12 PM]
That sounds about right...a 40 degree change is always noticeable.
Varda — Today at 4:12 PM
Next up:
[4:12 PM]
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Web:
Nothing new up. Yet.
[4:12 PM]
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Gaming:
[4:13 PM]
Eonwe, would you like this convenient gavel for a bit? slides
it along the slippery table
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:13 PM
Sure.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:14 PM
If you slide it along the slippery table, the gavel might get
slippery too! What happens if Eonwe can't grab it?
Varda — Today at 4:14 PM
Eonwe will find a way!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:14 PM
World of Warcraft:
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:14 PM
I am sure you are right....he is VERY capable.
Varda — Today at 4:14 PM
Hah, he got it!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:15 PM
This week's Bonus Events Pet Battles.
The Torghast Event: Beasts of Prodigum is going.
The PvP Brawl: Comp Stomp runs through Tuesday, February 1st.
Burning Crusade Phase 3 is live. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23764312/burning-crusade-classic-phase-3-is-now-live
World of Warcraft
Burning Crusade Classic: Phase 3 is Now Live -
WoW
The Black Temple beckons, hero. The next
content update for Burning Crusade Classic, The Black Temple is
now available!
[4:15 PM]
Check out World of Warcraft News and Development Updates. ---https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23761710/world-of-warcraft-news-and-development-updates
World of Warcraft
World of Warcraft News and Development Updates
- WoW
Catch up on all the latest World of Warcraft
release dates, news, hotfixes, and more in our latest update.
[4:15 PM]
Check out the latest hotfixes. ---https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23739169/hotfixes-january-28-2022
World of Warcraft
Hotfixes: January 28, 2022 - WoW
Here you will find a list of hotfixes that
address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands,
Burning Crusade Classic, WoW Classic Era, and Season of Mastery.
[4:16 PM]
Overwatch:
[4:16 PM]
See check out the blog on some skins for the upcoming Lunar
Festival: A Most Impressive Display: Behind The Latest Lunar New
Year Skins. --- https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23770406/a-most-impressive-display-behind-the-latest-lunar-new-year-skins/
Overwatch
A most impressive display: Behind the latest
Lunar New Year skins
Learn how our concept artists brought Seolbim
Mercy and Nezha Tracer to life in celebration for the Year of the
Tiger!
[4:17 PM]
That's it for my gaming news. Back to you, Varda.
Varda — Today at 4:17 PM
Thank you.
[4:17 PM]
Lord of the Rings
Online:
[4:17 PM]
News for free to play gamers:
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:17 PM
Watch out for the slippery table! Don't shove the gavel too hard!
Varda — Today at 4:17 PM
: )
Pallando-Valar — Today at 4:17 PM
Aiya
Varda — Today at 4:18 PM
February, maybe as soon as the 2nd, a lot of previously locked
abilities will be opening up. Not all, but a surprising number.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:18 PM
Aiya Pallando!
Varda — Today at 4:18 PM
Aiya Blue Wizard : )
[4:18 PM]
One more thing and calling for Pallando's news if any. : )
[4:19 PM]
Landroval server:
Arien
Celebrian
Elwing
Eonwe
Fangorn
Frodo
Ioreth
Nar
Varda
Anor server:
Eonwe
Falco
Fangorn
Varda
Shadowfax server:
Varda
Treebeard server:
Varda
[4:19 PM]
And thinking about not giving the last two server infos unless
more than just me show up, in the future.
Eve Online:
Pallando-Valar — Today at 4:20 PM
Nothing much to report. Dr Who event continues, there's a 2v2
arena this weekend which I'd be happy to assist/fly with folks on,
there were some CCP interviews done recently where they spoke in
generalities about what's coming but little in the way of
specifics.
Varda — Today at 4:20 PM
Thank you for the kindly offer of your help!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:22 PM
Do we have a source on the stuff opening up for F2Pers, Varda? Not
that it affects me personally since I'm a Lifetimer, but curious
what all it is. [Note: LotRO]
Varda — Today at 4:22 PM
We do, but it's still iffy.
Gold cap is a big one.
[4:23 PM]
A wallet, not the premium, but a huge help for inventory.
[4:24 PM]
And a number of others. I'll have to dig around for a written
source, as the one I was hearing from was a very long video.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:24 PM
OK, thanks.
Varda — Today at 4:27 PM
Any other gaming news?
[4:27 PM]
Trying to help Sandalf with his game start-up.
[4:28 PM]
Any other news? Need invitations? Suggestions? Requests?
[4:30 PM]
On to
[4:30 PM]
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Tolkien!
[4:32 PM]
If you have a topic, type it in fast before you get mine. : )
[4:33 PM]
This topic comes in several parts. First part:
[4:33 PM]
Galadriel didn't like the term "magic". Why?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:34 PM
Because Elves have a better innate sense of the connectedness of
fea and hroar, and each with the natural world
[4:34 PM]
To them, what we call magic is really our lack of understanding of
the above.
Varda — Today at 4:35 PM
To us modern types, that would be the spirit and the body (more or
less).
Arien Valar — Today at 4:35 PM
Aiya all
Varda — Today at 4:35 PM
Aiya Arien : )
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:36 PM
Well, she probably wouldn't mind the word "magic" in and of itself
as a way for mortals to try and understand it, if it wasn't
equally used to describe the "arts" of Sauron.
[4:38 PM]
Elves clearly see a difference between what they do and what
Sauron does.
Varda — Today at 4:38 PM
That's what the book was commenting on. The confusion between what
she did and what Sauron did
[4:40 PM]
Can we see a difference?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:42 PM
Being distantly part-Elf himself, and having been raised in
Imladris, I believe that Aragorn clearly sees and understands what
the Elves are doing that the rest of us call "magic."
[4:42 PM]
could be. I never thought of that. I can try again when I get
homet.
[4:43 PM]
Sorry! Wrong screen! That was for Varda!
Varda — Today at 4:43 PM
(the joys of multiple conversations!)
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:44 PM
I think I had jjust better stick with Discord for now. I am
appreciating the conversation going on and don't want to miss too
much of it.
Varda — Today at 4:44 PM
Sure, just when you get a moment. : )
What did Aragorn clearly see that others didn't?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:44 PM
Tolkien did define "magic" once or twice. At least one of those
described it as essentially a shortcut to desired results without
putting in work.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:45 PM
What the Elves were doing...for example, Galadriel and her Mirror.
I am sure that Aragorn had seen her use her Mirror before, and he
knew what she was doing...plus, Aragorn had his own store of
foresight.
[4:46 PM]
Furthermore, as a Healer, did not Aragorn himself use "magic" when
he breathed on the leaves of Athelas, and a living scent
discernible to all entered the room?
I think Tolkien called it a "living freshness."
Varda — Today at 4:48 PM
So are you saying that the idea of living freshness is the
difference between what Galadriel did and what Sauron did? [Note:
no, the reference was to the effect that the king's use of athelas
gives.]
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:48 PM
In the case we're dealing with, it seems mostly a matter of
motive. Sauron's "magic" is used to deceive and delude. Elves
"magic" to teach, inform, entertain, restore.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:49 PM
You have it exactly, Eonwe.
[4:50 PM]
Yes. What the Elves (and a few Numenoreans) could do with elements
of the natural world is the opposite of what Sauron would do. I
say would, because perhaps at one point, early in his career, he
could have chosen to do good with his "magic" as well?
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:50 PM
Bah, was going to pull out my Letters and dig out a quote,
but I put my book somewhere and I can't easily get it right now.
Varda — Today at 4:51 PM
Sauron, when he was Annatar and the pupil of Aule, did indeed do
good work. [Note: Annatar wasn't the right name to use here,
trying to refer to pre-Sauron.]
Eonwë Valar — Today at 4:51 PM
Well, I don't know about as "Annatar" :}
[4:51 PM]
Maybe to further the deception.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:52 PM
Yes...but alas, the lure of Melkor was stronger for Sauron than
the lure of Aule et al.
Varda — Today at 4:52 PM
Power.
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:53 PM
I believe that Olorin did NOT want to go to M.E., because he was
afraid of Sauron. Apparently Saurons road to evil started quite
early.
[4:54 PM]
The Tolkien Gateway says that Sauron's original Maia name was
Mairon.
Varda — Today at 4:55 PM
ok
Are there other effects that we readers might
consider "magic" by our own understanding of the term?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:55 PM
I always thought that it was something else, though.
[4:55 PM]
What about the Lamps of the Noldor?
Varda — Today at 4:56 PM
You mean of the Valar?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:56 PM
No...I meant the lamps that Gelmir used to help Tuor start down
the tunnel that led to the sea and Vinyamar.
Varda — Today at 4:57 PM
Do we see underlying sources of the magical
effects used?
Sandalf13 — Today at 4:57 PM
I will go grab the Library Silmarillion and find the
reference.
Varda — Today at 4:59 PM
Runnng out of time and trying to get all the parts of my question
out there. : )
Arien Valar — Today at 4:59 PM
i d call it gifts rather than magic I think that is how I came to
see it.. remember when i wrote Aranwe s story he developed a
healing gift when he needed it to rescue himself and the
other prisoners of the orcs
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:00 PM
If you're talking about Gelmir with Tuor you might be looking for
something from a different book. The two Gelmirs in the Sil don't
seem to have been involed with Tuor, but with Nargothrond.
[5:00 PM]
Or at least a quick glance isn't revealing it. I see Voronwë, son
of Aranwë though.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:01 PM
I think Galadriel s Mirror is working in the same way as a kind of
communication to help Galadriel and give her an idea what to
expect and such
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:01 PM
Ach...was ein Dummkopf! What a dummy I am! The Silmarillion
only includes the SHORT version of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin.
The full tale of his travels and his meeting with Ulmo is
contained in the UT...and I do not have a copy here...but
the lamps that the Noldor made would certainly be considered
"magical" by mere mortals.
Varda — Today at 5:02 PM
(At this point, I must pass the gavel to Eonwe. Have fun with the
subject, and please note that last question!)
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:02 PM
Yes...that is because Gelmir was carrying a message to
Nargothrond, and by chance (?) met Tuor along the road and agreed
to help him. What an interesting turn of fate.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:02 PM
Aiya, catching up!
Varda — Today at 5:02 PM
(I expect to return in a few hours.)
[5:02 PM]
(Aiya Phar!)
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:02 PM
Ok, so to re-iterate Varda's question: Do we see underlying
sources of the magical effects used?
[5:03 PM]
If we did, would it still be magic? ;}
Varda — Today at 5:03 PM
(Even magic has rules of some sort, or boundaries.)
[5:03 PM]
Namarie for now.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:03 PM
Isn't the reason we consider it "magic" because we can't make the
connection between start and finish? :}
[5:03 PM]
Take care Varda :}
Arien Valar — Today at 5:04 PM
Take care Varda
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:04 PM
Namarie, Varda!
Arien Valar — Today at 5:05 PM
I d say the magic that has the source in the valar is to benefit
others while Sauron s magic is to intimidate and even destroy
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:07 PM
But I still don't think it is "magic," I just think that the
Valar, the Maia, the Elves, and a few chosen mortals are better at
manipulating that which is available in the natural world.
We (mortals all) are really pretty dumb about a lot of things.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:07 PM
Aye, it's their innate ability to affect the world around them.
[5:09 PM]
Sauron also made use of Melkor's dispersal of his native power
into the substance of Arda. That could be considered "magic" in
that it's not his own power.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:10 PM
(something about sufficiently advanced technology)
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:10 PM
Aiya Ar!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:10 PM
Aiya
[5:11 PM]
So much things can be seen as magic when they simply use natural
mechanics that we don't know about. In Tolkien as in real life.
*so many
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:11 PM
I agree with you, Ar...
[5:11 PM]
Do we really even understand Quantum Mechanics, and effect at a
distance? No...it might appear magical to us...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:12 PM
The potential powers of the spirit and its relation to the body
can explain a lot of things in Tolkien that can be seen as magic.
But not just for the Valar and Elves.
[5:13 PM]
Morgoth and Sauron's magic also depended in great part of this
"magic" of the fear, in the ways of corruption for example.
*on this
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:14 PM
They (Melkor and Sauron) certainly knew what they were doing, and
who they were dealing with.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:14 PM
In fact, a lot of Morgoth and Sauron's evil can be traced back to
their own feär and the way they extended it over the world.
If feär is still the right word for the existence of the Ainur.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:15 PM
Is not fea and hroar the equivalent of the spirit and the body?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:16 PM
It is. And I imagine that the Ainur have versions of those too,
except their fear are more powerful and therefore give them
greater control over their hroar as well as the physical world
itself.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:17 PM
Well, their Hroar is more like clothing.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:18 PM
Both Melkor and Sauron used part of their "essence", which I
suspect is basically their fear (that sounds really weird without
the umlaut, though) to infect the world with their evil, thus also
reducing their influence on their forms/hroar.
Yes, Eonwe, but losing it and recovering from that still took a
lot of their power.
Sauron, for example, upon losing his form in the Akallabeth, was
unable to take the form of Annatar again, after putting so much
power in the Ring.
[5:19 PM]
And Morgoth put so much power in the world, he too was locked into
a physical appearance, allowing for his eventual thrusting out of
the world.
So their power over their bodies was not unlimited.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:20 PM
The way it's explained in some of the various books is that some
actions in the hroa can bind you more strongly to it. Like, say,
having a child.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:20 PM
Hmm, that's possible.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:21 PM
Luthien's conception and birth bound Melian to her physical body
until Luthien passed.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:21 PM
There is a beautiful fan fiction story by MP Brennan on Stories of
Arda, in which Elrond says to Estel, that he believes that while
Elves may have the stronger hor ar, Men have the stronger fear...
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:22 PM
Sauron and Morgoth through different types of actions and their
desire to act upon the physical world became dependant upon their
bodies, and of course when you see your body as more than a nice
suit you're going to put a little more into it.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:22 PM
That could also have a connection to the fear, though. Did not
Miriel put so much of her spirit in Feanor that it was largely
drained and consumed?
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:23 PM
I think that you are right, Ar.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:23 PM
That's what she says, in accordance with Elvish belief on the
matter of begetting children.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:24 PM
Is it possible that Celebrian put so much effort into bearing
Elladan, Elrohir, and Arwen, that she herself was weakened, and
therefore unable to withstand the torture of the Orcs as well?
After all, Maedhros survived hanging by one hand for a very long
time...
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:25 PM
That makes me wonder if women in Tolkien's works are by nature
disadvantaged after having children.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:26 PM
Maedhros had just come out of Aman and had to make the best of his
time in Middle-Earth anyway. He wasn't going to be getting a free
boat ride back.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:27 PM
I dont think woman in Tokien are pictured really as much
disadvantaged at least not in Lord of the Rings .. thinking of
lots of strong woman he showsz
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:27 PM
Yes, but how many of them still had such spirit and strength after
becoming mothers?
Arien Valar — Today at 5:27 PM
Luthien, Eowyn , Arwen ]
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:27 PM
Galadriel?
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:27 PM
Yes, all of them maidens
[5:27 PM]
Galadriel, fair enough.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:28 PM
even Aragorns mother was quite strong
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:28 PM
Lobelia?
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:28 PM
Yes...Galadriel certainly seems to have kept her strength even
after childbirth.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:28 PM
Alright, I guess things aren't as bleak as I feared
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:29 PM
"I love not the sword for its brightness. ---Faramir" Let's not
mistake standing on a battlefield as the only kind of strength.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:29 PM
But childbirth can affect every woman differently...
[5:29 PM]
You are so right, Eonwe.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:31 PM
Strength comes in many forms, not just physical prowess.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:32 PM
While some women were or may have been a bit more limited by
expending power in childbirth, it's good to see many of them were
at least still strong.
[5:34 PM]
Limited? Let's say "weakened", it sounds nicer.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:35 PM
I don't know about "nicer" :} But childbirth is going to
have a toll on the body. Doesn't lessen the strength of spirit.
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:36 PM
Oops...I need to gather my things and repair to Subway for some
dinner. I shall try to get back online later, and maybe catch
Varda. Thank you all for allowing me to join in your conversation!
Your company is a rare gift.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:36 PM
Glad I could participate a bit, even if later on.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:36 PM
Take care Sandalf :}
Arien Valar — Today at 5:37 PM
Take care Sandalf
Sandalf13 — Today at 5:37 PM
Thank you, and Namarie!
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:37 PM
Anyway, my original point was that Morgoth and Sauron's magic, and
the power they put in the world and other races, also seemed to
draw a lot from their own feär and its relationship to the
physical world, as a power source similar to what the Elves used.
Arien Valar — Today at 5:37 PM
Namarie from me as well as i have to go to bed
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:37 PM
Namarie
[5:37 PM]
to both Sandalf and Arien!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:37 PM
Sleep well Arien :}
Arien Valar — Today at 5:37 PM
:)
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:38 PM
I suppose here's as good a spot as any to declare Aftermeeting.
[5:38 PM]
Bangs gavel
[5:38 PM]
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Aftermeeting:
[5:39 PM]
And aye, Phar. Similar in that it was derived from themselves.
Elvish fëar were similar in nature to the Ainur. Taking a physical
form was the cost of acting on the world.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 5:40 PM
Sounds right, yes
Eonwë Valar — Today at 5:40 PM
I must be afk for a bit.
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Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:07 PM
Personal gaming report!
[7:07 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, I'll give https://www.kongregate.com/games/Mousecity_Apps/faraway-puzzle-escape
Kongregate
Faraway: Puzzle Escape
HTML5 version of Faraway: Puzzle Escape.
Game feature first 6 levels of the game.
For full game please download app version, on
iOS or Android, instead where f...
[7:08 PM]
An atmospheric point and click puzzle game akin to certain escape
rooms, where you travel through various sections of an ancient
ruins, completing puzzles, unlocking stuff, acquiring stuff, and
ultimately finding the keycard to each level (and the door to put
it in).
[7:10 PM]
An additional badge to collect all 18 hidden notes. Each of the
six level has 2 notes you have to find by locking around, and a
third you can unlock using a clue from the keycard of that level.
Full game is bigger, but the 6 levels available are still fun to
play
[7:12 PM]
So good luck
[7:18 PM]
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Blizzard gaming:
[7:20 PM]
Hearthstone:
Up to level 84 on the reward track. Still 30g short for the next
class skin. Slow week, I guess! Gotten some honor too, but not to
the next rank yet.
[7:22 PM]
I hung out with some Valar people one night, first up fighting
Fladrif in a few matches as we both had the friend challenge, and
then Shelob and I played some matches, observed some of each
other's matches, and had a mercenary fight
So yes, some good Valar fun!
Varda — Today at 7:22 PM
Aiya - and that's great! Nice to see you gettting to play with
Valarites. : )
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:23 PM
Congrats, and back, and welcome back.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:23 PM
Almost typed Menelvagor, but as that's still her battle.net name I
guess it would've been fine
Varda — Today at 7:24 PM
There you go.
Hantal!
Joining up with Fangorn and Elwing for a bit in LotRO. : )
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:25 PM
Have fun.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:25 PM
Brawl this week is a mercenary story related one, where you play
Tavish vs Rokara (or other way around) against another player,
with each player being able to choose another of their faction's
mercenaries as a hero power buddy, with preset decks.
[7:25 PM]
Ah, enjoy :)
Varda — Today at 7:25 PM
Always, and will be here too, getting in Phar's typing way. ; )
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:25 PM
Kinda weird brawl, with heroes, powers and cards I'm not used
to... but luckily I won one!
Varda — Today at 7:26 PM
Yay Phar!
[7:27 PM]
(We are in the Phar Zone, at the Phar Side.)
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:27 PM
Oh, and during ranked, got my demon hunter to level 49, as well as
getting to gold rank in wild mode for the first time after
spending many months in bronze and silver. Not sure why, my decks
haven't changed much But still nice to see the gold
portraits for a change.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:29 PM
Annatar: Phar from Home (Phar be it from me to start making
puns. Oh wait, that's exactly like me.)
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:29 PM
I'll Phargive you.
Varda — Today at 7:29 PM
heehe
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:31 PM
For mercenaries, no new mercs at level 30, but got some good
levels on Gruul, Geddon and Saurfang. Also, on the same night I
faced Shelob using King Crush, and saying I didn't have that one
yet... I ended up getting enough coins to unlock him
I know Mukla and Krush can make a powerful combo, must look into
that in the future.
[7:32 PM]
Other than that, got a bunch of high level mercenary tasks done as
well, approaching the end for some. Highest so far is 14 out of
18.
(highest so phar?)
[7:33 PM]
WoW:
Raiding: We got Kel'thuzad down on heroic difficulty! Including
getting me the best heroic level bear pants available.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:34 PM
So you don't have him on Pharm yet.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:35 PM
Next target is Sylvanas. Taking some casualties in phase 1, as
well as running into dps/timing problems in phase 1. Technically
we made it to phase 3 once, but that was just with one death
knight, in purgatory mode I believe, so it doesn't really count
Nope, not on pharm yet :)
Still, we're pushing it.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:36 PM
:}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:37 PM
For old raiding, the week after getting the mount from Ji-Kun, I
also ended up getting the pet from Ji-Kun as well! Just one pet
remaining from that raid.
[7:38 PM]
Weekly quests is pet battles! Did my 5 pvp pet battles again, and
ended up getting the 250 pet battle wins achievement along the
way It's not much, but an achievement is an achievement!
[7:40 PM]
Slowly getting more anima still, buying my first weapon appearance
from the night fae armor vendor for it, a scepter. The grind
continues!
[7:41 PM]
And finally alting!
[7:42 PM]
Had some good fun with the mage. While her main spec is fire, I
did go for the other artifacts in their respective specs. Frosty
seems similar to fire when it comes to certain proc relations, but
arcane is a bit more out of the way, with a lot of actively timed
buffs and effects.
[7:43 PM]
Still, got out with both Ebonchill and Aluneth, getting some good
nexus lore along the way.
[7:44 PM]
I then continued the class campaign, making it to the final quest
available before 45. Along the way I got her from level 34 to 36,
and recruited the first 4 champions.
[7:45 PM]
Now I gotta do some missions while I poke one of the questing
zones, probably Azsuna again. Onward to 45!
[7:45 PM]
And that's my report for the week
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:48 PM
Congrats :}
[7:49 PM]
I finally got around to skilling up my farmer on LotRO. A little
more tedious and alot easier than I expected it to be.
[7:50 PM]
Seems to me someone with enough gold could level up a farmer and a
cook together pretty easily.
And if there's a vocation that has both together (Which I
apparently don't have) then that would just be even quicker for
that one character.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:51 PM
Sounds good
[7:52 PM]
Well, namarie!
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:52 PM
Sleep well Phar. May your dreams be near, heh.
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:52 PM
Thanks
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:52 PM
Last "Phar" pun of the night :}
Ar-Pharazon-V — Today at 7:53 PM
Heh, didn't even notice that one.
Eonwë Valar — Today at 7:54 PM
:}
Varda — Today at 8:37 PM
Phar well.
[8:37 PM]
Yeoman has cook and farmer together.
It takes a lot of space
Eonwë Valar — Today at 8:55 PM
Aha, don't have that one on any characters yet.
Maybe if I ever make a Runekeeper I throw it on him.
[8:56 PM]
Or I guess any character really. No reason to pick a specific
class.
Varda — Today at 9:06 PM
Hunter is great for a yeoman.
[9:07 PM]
Makes a campfire, hops to handy working spots whenever desired.
[9:08 PM]
My Tintalli is a hunter yeoman.
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