January 16, 2022
Sunday Meeting
5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Discord: Valar
Guild/meeting_place
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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for
Eastern.]
Attending (and typed): (7)
Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe,
Pallando, Sandalf13, Shelob, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Eilinel
Web:
Tolkien:
Topic: What exactly is
Ungoliant and what does that make Shelob? Annnnnd tangents.
Gaming
informal start:
Gaming:
World of Warcraft, Lord
of the Rings Online; Eve Online, Gloomhaven, Transport Tycoon Deluxe
After-meeting:
Aiding computer stuff.
Tolkien short chats
TV tropes.
(non)Flashgaming
Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.
Changed to one (non)flash game instead of three for now.
top
Before-meeting
Eonwλ Valar
01/12/2022
Metroid Dread is an awesome Metroid game. Finished it, 100%'d it,
loads of fun except for maybe two items, others I looked at what
it took and I was like "heh, that's cute". 10/10, will play again.
Eonwλ Valar 01/12/2022
Arg, too soon, too soon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiPcRCWzcGo
YouTube
Nintendo
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - Copy Abilities
and Co-op - Nintendo ...
January 16,
2022
Sandalf13 Today at 4:01 PM
Hallo!
Varda Today at 4:01 PM
Aiya!
Arien Valar Today at 4:02 PM
Aiya
Varda Today at 4:02 PM
And in the correct channel, even. : )
[4:02 PM]
@Bounder Huzzah! We can get together to say hi, chat, talk gaming
and Tolkien! Come on into the meeting!
[4:03 PM]
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Membership:
We have Sandalf, Arien, Eonwe, and some Varda person so far. Good
start!
Hi from Fangorn. We were just in LotRO together.
[4:04 PM]
Any membership comments?
Oh, Tuor appeared on the Forum. Didn't post but managed to pop in,
yay! Been a while.
[4:05 PM]
Has anyone seen Helm, Aragorn, Fladrif, or others this fine new
year, to give them credit for being on?
Hard for me to spot a number of our European buddies, so we need
your help there.
[4:06 PM]
Any other membership comments?
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:06 PM
Heya.
Varda Today at 4:06 PM
Aiya! Kirby is taking over the world again. : )
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:07 PM
:}
Varda Today at 4:09 PM
Web:
[4:09 PM]
Sandalf has been sending an impressive amount of articles for the
Tolkien Encyclopedia. We hope to have them in shape for your
perusal one of these fine days. : )
[4:09 PM]
Any other web news?
Sandalf13 Today at 4:10 PM
Thank you for your kind comments. I hope that my work lives up to
your expectations.
Varda Today at 4:10 PM
Tons of good stuff in there.
[4:11 PM]
It will go up eventually!
Sandalf13 Today at 4:11 PM
I did send you an updated Chapter 6 (Who Foretold What, Whenb) and
a Foreword to my book . Via E-Mail.
Varda Today at 4:12 PM
Aye, and replied just at the start of the meeting. Thanks!
Shelob Today at 4:12 PM
You've been busy I see.
Varda Today at 4:12 PM
Will be looking it over for sure.
[4:12 PM]
Aiya Shelob!
Arien Valar Today at 4:12 PM
oh and a member ship; news i nearly forgot
Shelob Today at 4:12 PM
Perhaps it's time to get you fully inducted into the halls of the
Valar?
[4:12 PM]
Also, Aiya.
Arien Valar Today at 4:12 PM
aiya Shelob
[4:13 PM]
:)
Sandalf13 Today at 4:13 PM
:)
Arien Valar Today at 4:13 PM
can i edge that in or should i wait Varda?
Varda Today at 4:14 PM
Arien, go ahead.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:14 PM
Hey...what happens if I do this:
:(
1
[4:14 PM]
Just testing.
Varda Today at 4:14 PM
You get emotes.
Shelob Today at 4:14 PM
You get a frowny face. :)
Varda Today at 4:14 PM
Arien, go ahead.
Arien Valar Today at 4:14 PM
some of you might remember Eilinel?
Varda Today at 4:15 PM
Rings a bell. Europe?
Arien Valar Today at 4:15 PM
the member i ltested some years back she lives in the states in
fact
[4:15 PM]
think her husband is a diplomate
Varda Today at 4:15 PM
I don't remember, really.
[4:15 PM]
Just rings a bell.
[4:16 PM]
In the books, she was Gorlim's wife.
Arien Valar Today at 4:16 PM
Anyway she has published a historic novel in German which
translates as "For Freedom and Life/"
Sandalf13 Today at 4:16 PM
Fόr die Freiheit und das Leben?
Varda Today at 4:17 PM
Please English-ish for the rest of us and our transcript readers,
or at least translate? [Note: oops, he was translating!]
Arien Valar Today at 4:17 PM
and it is apparently doing quite well from what i hear via
facebook . Um Freiheit und Leben is the original title
Sandalf
Sandalf13 Today at 4:17 PM
Ah! I get lost sometimes on when to use/not use the definite
article.
Arien Valar Today at 4:18 PM
For Freedom and life is as close as i gets and it deals around the
1745 and scottish highlands
Varda Today at 4:18 PM
Did the lady pass the test? Not active enough for us to know her.
Arien Valar Today at 4:18 PM
she did yes
[4:19 PM]
but think she has been quite busy to be much activew and i
thoughjt you had once contact with her
[4:19 PM]
anyway it was just a remark and she at least once had been a
member
Varda Today at 4:20 PM
Inactive 2013.
[4:20 PM]
Located.
Arien Valar Today at 4:20 PM
if not you can always leave this out of the member ship news
[4:20 PM]
in the log
Varda Today at 4:20 PM
Didn't get kicked out, just under the Inactives.
But her name is in jeopardy if someone else wants it, from being
listed inactive.
Arien Valar Today at 4:21 PM
sorry then for mentioning it
Varda Today at 4:21 PM
You should mention. She's still a member.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:21 PM
Is it better, perhaps, for a member to formulate their own name?
Varda Today at 4:21 PM
Let's us know she's alive. : )
Arien Valar Today at 4:21 PM
oh she is yes :@) we are in lose facebook contact
Varda Today at 4:22 PM
A Tolkien member can pick all sorts of names.
[4:22 PM]
But a Full Member has restrictions.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:22 PM
How does one simply become a Full Member?
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:23 PM
Fights urge to post Boromir. Fights urge to post
Boromir.....
Varda Today at 4:23 PM
If a person is only interested in the Tolkien aspects, it's best
to be a Tolkien member.
[4:23 PM]
hehe
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:23 PM
:}
Varda Today at 4:23 PM
Full Member games with us and also passes a live test over the
Lord of the Rings books, and is able to also act as a Tolkien
member.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:23 PM
So I assume...probably incorrectly...that people who are active
"gamers" need a name from the LoTR to identify themselves. [Note:
The name can be from any of Tolkien's works, dealing with
Middle-earth and Valinor. This base name helps ID the player among
maybe 60 characters or more spreading across 20 games that may use
totally unrelated names and multiple entries in the Tolkien Site.]
@Varda
Full Member games with us and also passes a live test over
the Lord of the Rings books, and is able to also act as a
Tolkien members.
Shelob Today at 4:24 PM
The books, not the movies.
[4:24 PM]
And there might be a question that differentiates the two.
Varda Today at 4:24 PM
We are a Tolkien and Gaming group. A Full Member, therefore, does
both.
[4:24 PM]
Aye, Shelob.
[4:24 PM]
LotRO is the game, LotR is the book trilogy.
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:24 PM
Choosing a member name to go by from one of Tolkien's works is one
of the rites of passage in becoming a Full Member.
Arien Valar Today at 4:24 PM
it lusually also includes two written pieces which are
posted on the website and does so once a year if you
like
Shelob Today at 4:24 PM
Although we do collectively play other games as well.
Varda Today at 4:25 PM
Arien, no written pieces are required for Full Members.
Shelob Today at 4:25 PM
And being active also includes forum or in meetings. And I am
hardly on meetings, never on forums, and practically non-existent
in games and still listed as active.
Varda Today at 4:25 PM
A Tolkien member doesn't exist until they add to the Tolkien Site
in some fashion, thus the name.
[4:26 PM]
We have a lot of things that let us claim "active", mainly meaning
they keep in contact with the guild in some fashion.
@Arien Valar
it lusually also includes two written pieces which
are posted on the website and does so once a year if
you like
Shelob Today at 4:26 PM
I think Arien was pulling a leg or two on poor Sandalf. Which
would have been not so bad for him if he had been me. wink
Varda Today at 4:26 PM
But they have to have done the entry thing for their type of
membership.
hands roller skates to Shelob
Arien Valar Today at 4:27 PM
nah its cause i remember writing those but i forgot that i joined
first as Tolkien member
its i am getting old
Shelob Today at 4:27 PM
But, let us be honest, the test itself (used to at least) consist
of 5 questions which aren't really hard to begin with. They just
require you to have read LotR to be able to answer them.
Varda Today at 4:27 PM
It's a mixed memory. [Note: answering Arien]
I always attempt to be honest.
@Varda
hands roller skates to Shelob
Shelob Today at 4:27 PM
I'm going to be soooo awesome at roller disco!
Varda Today at 4:28 PM
The questions are intended merely as proof that the person read
the books.
You are!
More than that is needed to go past Tolkien or Full Member. : )
Shelob Today at 4:28 PM
I kind of hope Sam doesn't become active again. He stings.
Varda Today at 4:28 PM
Maia Honor has to pass a harder test on LotR.
[4:29 PM]
I would love for Sam to return. FKA Namo/Mandos.
We lost contact. Hope he's ok, one of my first online friends, and
first close one.
@Varda
Maia Honor has to pass a harder test on LotR.
Shelob Today at 4:29 PM
Speaking of which, am I technically still Maia, or have I
relinquished that title? I cannot remember.
Varda Today at 4:29 PM
Shelob, you never lost Maia.
[4:30 PM]
Vala has to be able to be a Maia, but also has to be very good
with the Silmarillion and help grow the guild, something of a
fanatic for it, in a way.
Lots of people help for one or two things, then drift away. Not
Valar Honor material.
Shelob
Today at 4:30 PM
Ooooh! That raises a fairly interesting question for the Tolkien
section.
Varda Today at 4:31 PM
There is a lot of discussion over what Ungoliant really is.
@Varda
Lots of people help for one or two things, then drift away.
Not Valar Honor material.
Shelob Today at 4:31 PM
I used to go there, and then I kind of drifted of.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:31 PM
Shelob is a descendant of Ungoliant,...
Varda Today at 4:31 PM
Shelob, however, is a child of Ungoliant, and therefore not of the
Ainur or of the suggestion that they came from the void in some
weird way.
Shelob Today at 4:32 PM
Aye, but is Ungoliant of the Ainur?
Varda Today at 4:32 PM
No Ainur is anyone's child, but is made by Eru directly.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:32 PM
Yes...but then one wonders how Shelob was conceived...
Shelob Today at 4:32 PM
Spidey whoopie.
Varda Today at 4:32 PM
The answer on that one is apparently related to Mirkwood spiders.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:32 PM
I believe it is conclusive that Ungoliant was one of the Ainur.
Varda Today at 4:33 PM
There is argument over Ungoliant. I am on the side that she is of
the Ainur, but there are plausible other arguments.
Shelob Today at 4:33 PM
Ungoliant mated with the spiders of Ered |Gorgoroth, which, while
not as great as Ungoliant herself, were still massive.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:33 PM
She fell in with Melkor early.
Shelob Today at 4:33 PM
The Mirkwood spiders are descendants of that mating I believe.
Varda Today at 4:33 PM
Melkor made a good bribe, but it didn't protect him when Ungoliant
wanted the silmarils too.
Shelob, feel free to look that up and make an article. : )
Sandalf13 Today at 4:34 PM
Maybe she originally mated with Melkor?
Varda Today at 4:34 PM
Not likely, Sandalf.
Shelob Today at 4:34 PM
But none was so great or full of malice, or inherited fully the
ability to spin darkness as much as Shelob did.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:34 PM
Just a thought...I know that they did not part friends...
Varda Today at 4:34 PM
Shelob did have sisters, but seems as if she was the strongest.
That does not bode well for the sisters.
Arien Valar Today at 4:35 PM
I think , Sandalf , with Ungoliant and Melkor it was more of a
business deal or purposedriven contract .. at the beginning at
least
Varda Today at 4:35 PM
Screaming a call for help to the Balrogs is not feeling friended
on Morgoth's behalf, aye.
Shelob Today at 4:35 PM
I'm not too worried about Shelob possibly having devoured her
siblings. It's much more likely Ungoliant did.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:35 PM
You are probably correct!
Varda Today at 4:35 PM
Aye, it was a business deal. She wanted to eat the light of the
Two Trees and of the jewels. Morgoth promised much of that.
@Varda
Melkor made a good bribe, but it didn't protect him when
Ungoliant wanted the silmarils too.
Shelob Today at 4:35 PM
Actually, Melkor had promised to give with both hands, but wanted
to reneige on that bargain by withholding the Silmarils, which he
held in his other.
Varda Today at 4:35 PM
He wanted the Two Trees down.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:36 PM
What an appetite.
Varda Today at 4:36 PM
There were a lot of jewels. : )
Shelob Today at 4:36 PM
Yeah, all the jewels from... what's the name of Finrod's
stronghold again in Valinor?
Varda Today at 4:36 PM
Giving with two hands does not necessarily mean givine all.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:36 PM
In Valinor?
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:37 PM
He should've put them in his pocket. I hear that makes for quite a
conundrum when asked about.
Varda Today at 4:37 PM
Finwe's?
Sandalf13 Today at 4:37 PM
IT was Nargothrond in the Silmarillion...
Varda Today at 4:37 PM
He means in Valinor.
Nargothrond was in Middle-earth.
Shelob Today at 4:37 PM
Finwe's, aye.
Where he was slain by Melkor while Feanor was away.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:37 PM
That is my point....I did not think that Finrod had a stronghold
in Valinor...
Shelob Today at 4:38 PM
And for which act he was named Morgoth by Feanor.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:38 PM
Finwe did, yes...a favored hangout.
Shelob Today at 4:38 PM
Formenos.
Varda Today at 4:39 PM
I had to look it up. Shelob is correct, Formenos.
Shelob Today at 4:40 PM
(also looked it up).
Varda Today at 4:40 PM
Yes, we corrected the name to Finwe, he didn't mean Finrod.
Shelob Today at 4:40 PM
By the way. Was it for stealing the Silmarils, or the slaying of
Finwe that Faenor named him Great Enemy? Or both?
Varda Today at 4:41 PM
The big one was killing Finwe, High King of the Noldor and father
of Feanor.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:41 PM
I think it was BOTH.
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:41 PM
Ungoliant found "foul creatures in spider form" in Nan Dungortheb
when she fled there. She mated with them and then devoured them,
because, you know, spider.
Varda Today at 4:41 PM
And no, I'm not wrestling in the diacriticals. Feel free to
imagine umlauts over the final e's. : )
Shelob Today at 4:41 PM
At least that does tell us that Feanor was, even in his folly, of
noble spirit.
Varda Today at 4:42 PM
Thanks, Eonwe.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:42 PM
Yeah...Feanor...noble spitit...but....kinslaying? The Helcaraxe?
@Eonwλ Valar
Ungoliant found "foul creatures in spider form" in Nan
Dungortheb when she fled there. She mated with them and then
devoured them, because, you know, spider.
Shelob Today at 4:42 PM
Not all spiders do that. And yes, after that it was called Ered
Gorgoroth. The Mountains of Dread.
Varda Today at 4:42 PM
Feanor had much to recommend him. Was destroyed by his own hubris
and yet also by his inability to separate his personal worth from
the great works of his hands, the silmarils.
Shelob Today at 4:43 PM
One can have a noble spirit, yet be utterly corrupted in their
actions.
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:43 PM
If any do, that's too many to me, heh. Point is she did though.
Varda Today at 4:43 PM
Melkor was great, once, but fell to Morgoth.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:43 PM
BTW, in my Chapter 6, I note that the Elves (esp. the Noldor)
accounted the Elessar the greatest jewel created by the old
jewel-smiths after the Silmarils.
[4:44 PM]
Yeah...jhe fell, alright.
Varda Today at 4:44 PM
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/articles/e/ElessarStone.htm
The Elessar Stone
Article concerning the origin and use of the
Elessar stone in Tolkien's work. Written for the Vaar Guld Tolkien
Encyclopedia.
Shelob Today at 4:44 PM
Well, wasn't that made by Celebrimbor, son of Curufin?
Son of Feanor.
Varda Today at 4:45 PM
I refer you to the article and the two different versions.
Shelob Today at 4:45 PM
The vaar guild?
Varda Today at 4:45 PM
Egad. a typo. [Note: fixed]
Sandalf13 Today at 4:45 PM
Two legends: First, Olorin brought the ORIGINAL Elessar BACK to
M.E. from Valinor to show Galadriel that the Valar had NOT
forgotten M.E.. Second legend: Celebrimbor created
Galadriel's Elessar for her, even though she gave her heart
to Celeborn, because Celebrimbor loved her.
Varda Today at 4:46 PM
Enerdhil was the earliest said to be the maker, later changed the
story to Celebrimbor.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:46 PM
I can't type fast enough to keep up with you guys.
Varda Today at 4:46 PM
Come in late and don't worry about it. : )
We're fine with that.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:46 PM
The two legends appear in the Unfinished Tales as an appendix to
the tale of Galadriel and Celeborn.
Shelob Today at 4:46 PM
That's because we've had a long, long time of practice with these
kind of discussions my friend.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:47 PM
I sort of like the first legend first...It would be good for the
Valar to let the dwellers on M.E. know that they were NOT
forgotten.
Varda Today at 4:47 PM
Since I wrote the article, it comes to mind rather quickly.
Shelob Today at 4:47 PM
I joined the Valar Guild back in '99 I think. [Note: correct,
joined 1999 as Maedhros.]
Varda Today at 4:47 PM
They truly were not forgotten.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:48 PM
Yes...but they did not always know that, or feel it.
Varda Today at 4:48 PM
The Valar tried not to interfere too much, also.
Arien Valar Today at 4:48 PM
it is the reason i don 't type that much , Sandalf I am just
not fast enough and usually someone sais what I wanted to say
anyway
Varda Today at 4:48 PM
True, Sandalf, most of the time.
Sorry about that, Arien.
Lenwe got tired of trying to keep up too, which makes me sad.
Shelob Today at 4:48 PM
Heh. I just checked my membership page. Seems I used to be Feanor
once. I guess being (sort of) evil was apparent even back then.
Varda Today at 4:49 PM
I typed as a secretary, hard to remember to slow down properly.
Heh, Shelob.
Arien Valar Today at 4:49 PM
ah dont .. i can keep up with reading
Varda Today at 4:49 PM
I liked you as Menelvagor. : )
Shelob Today at 4:49 PM
I remember back in the old B.net days I used to be able to hold 4
or 5 separate conversations while simultaneously being active in
the meeting.
Varda Today at 4:49 PM
We want to hear from the rest of you too. : )
Sandalf13 Today at 4:49 PM
With the shining belt! And Menelvagor is at his best in the night
sky, right now.
Varda Today at 4:49 PM
yep, we do that.
[4:50 PM]
Orion, in his early days.
@Varda
I liked you as Menelvagor. : )
Shelob Today at 4:50 PM
I have not changed. Not since I joined as Maedhros. I only changed
in appearance and well, behaviour I guess. Just like any character
in Tolkien's world does over time.
Varda Today at 4:50 PM
I feel slow now, though. : )
@Varda
I feel slow now, though. : )
Shelob Today at 4:50 PM
Yeah, same here.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:50 PM
There is something special about watching the stars, especially
bright ones like in Menelvagor, on a cold, snowy night....when the
stars twinkle in a cloudless sky...
Varda Today at 4:51 PM
The elves agree with you completely.
Arien Valar Today at 4:51 PM
((ot remark .. in relation ito some of the constellations in the
night sky i highly recommend Clash of the Titans . the original
preferrably but the remake a few years back is okay tooo ))
Sandalf13 Today at 4:51 PM
Yes...and the ground is snowy here right now, at least for a few
days more...until the next cycle of warm then snow...
Shelob Today at 4:52 PM
It's a bit odd that I went from Menelvagor, the belt of Orion,
light of the night, to Shelob, obscurer of said light.
[Note: Menelvagor is the entire hunter, not just the belt.]
Varda Today at 4:52 PM
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/stars.html
Stars
Articles on the Stars in the sky of Tolkien's
Middle-earth
Sandalf13 Today at 4:52 PM
But as Sam notes in Mordor, there is something beautiful and
bright above the darkness of M.E.
That outlasts the gloom...
Shelob Today at 4:52 PM
Twas me.
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:52 PM
On Clash of the Titans: Bah, who would pass up Ray Harryhausen
effects? ;}
Varda Today at 4:52 PM
Arwen at the end symbolized the removal of the fear of night.
[4:53 PM]
hehe Eonwe
Shelob Today at 4:53 PM
Although to be fair, twas Varda who created Menelvagor in the
first place.
Varda Today at 4:54 PM
We kind of smudged it to let the constellations and stars be Maia
Honor, yep. The stars were ships sailed mainly by Maiar, Earendil
excepted.
A whole constellation would have many Maiar in it.
Pallando-Valar Today at 4:54 PM
Aiya. Rumors of my death etc etc
Varda Today at 4:54 PM
Pallando! Huzzah!
Shelob Today at 4:54 PM
Earendil was part Maia though, so exception is not completely
without merit. [Note: this confusion is unwound later.]
[4:54 PM]
Aiya Pallando!
Varda Today at 4:55 PM
Hey, you're a Vala, never truly die. : )
True, we'll give him part Maia, good point. [Note: not Maia]
Sandalf13 Today at 4:55 PM
Yes he certainly was...having Dior for a fathger...
Shelob Today at 4:55 PM
Rumors of my death have also never been confirmed!
Varda Today at 4:56 PM
We speculate that you ate yourself, just got too hungry. Kind of
like Pizza the Hutt in Spaceballs. Sorry, wrong fandom.
Sandalf13 Today at 4:56 PM
Oops...not Dior...he was the father of Elwing. Sorry.
Pallando-Valar Today at 4:56 PM
Remember, if there's not a body in front f you that you personally
confirmed to be the real corpse, you can't really be
sure..
Varda Today at 4:56 PM
Pallando, you are bound to have tons of news!
[4:56 PM]
And then someone comes along and rezzes the body! (guilty)
Pallando-Valar Today at 4:57 PM
Clerics and gods just can't leave well enough alone, can they?
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:57 PM
Sounds like a quote from the Evil Overlord List?
[Note: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilOverlordList
]
@Varda
We speculate that you ate yourself, just got too hungry.
Kind of like Pizza the Hutt in Spaceballs. Sorry, wrong fandom.
Shelob Today at 4:57 PM
Kind of like my dear old mommy, who for some odd reason (possibly
having been smart enough to get away from her sooner rather than
later) did not eat me and then proceeded to eat herself?
Varda Today at 4:57 PM
We try to back off, but yep, just had to resist.
Have to keep Hunger under control.
Eonwλ Valar Today at 4:58 PM
Eat a Snickers instead. (lol)
Shelob Today at 4:58 PM
I'd rather turn into Betty White. There's honour to be had there!
Pallando-Valar
Today at 4:58 PM
I have some news, little of it good, sadly.
Varda Today at 4:59 PM
Pallando, you're alive and able to type here. That is what we are
most happy to see!
Pallando-Valar Today at 4:59 PM
CCP has launched a Doctor Who cross over event in Eve, and it's
just.. I dunno. Kinda the last straw for me.
Varda Today at 4:59 PM
Yikes.
[4:59 PM]
It should pass, eventually, right?
Pallando-Valar Today at 4:59 PM
I have very few nice things to say about it (or much of what CCP
has done recently).
[5:00 PM]
Yes, it'll be over in a couple weeks but it's not good.
Varda Today at 5:00 PM
Change in management doing this?
Maybe you need a few weeks of LotRO til it blows over.
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:00 PM
Maybe. But we're pretty sure it's the same ceo doing dumb things.
Varda Today at 5:00 PM
ugh
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:01 PM
It's been a longstanding.. gossip? Rumor? Whatever. That eve has
pretty much from the start succeeded in spite of the CEO rather
than because of him.
[5:01 PM]
And over the years the people who could gainsay him and push the
right direction have left
Varda Today at 5:02 PM
That sounds like a number of groups/businesses, where the group
can keep the place operating because they love the concept.
[5:02 PM]
Uh oh.
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:02 PM
For awhile he was focused on other side projects and left eve
alone
[5:02 PM]
But those all failed and guess that he came back to..
[5:02 PM]
Anyways
Varda Today at 5:03 PM
o man.
[5:03 PM]
Need to find him a new project again, quick!
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:03 PM
Im alive, even if I'm not enjoying much about Eve.
Varda Today at 5:03 PM
Keeping your side section of the Eve universe as best you can.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:04 PM
Pardon my naivety...is Eve a game?
Varda Today at 5:04 PM
Yes
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:04 PM
Been playing a lot of Gloomhaven
instead. If anyone else has the digital version and wants to do a
campaign I'd love to actually game with some valarites for the
first time in a long time. :)
Varda Today at 5:04 PM
An amazing game in space in the far future.
[5:04 PM]
Ahh interesting. Anyone here play Gloomhaven?
[5:04 PM]
Maybe someone will want to give it a shot.
[5:05 PM]
I'll give an ask to some Valarites downstairs right quick.
Shelob Today at 5:06 PM
Ask me again in a few weeks Pallando. I might be willing to pick
it up. But the coming weeks I have to focus on exams.
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:08 PM
I'll be sure to. :)
[5:10 PM]
To be clear while the Dr who event is somewhat badly done it's not
that bad in and of itself
[5:10 PM]
Very much a straw on a camels back
Sandalf13 Today at 5:11 PM
I am afraid gaming will always be beyond me....I don't even own a
laptop capable of keeping up with gaming, so so I have been told.
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:11 PM
Just depends on what you play. :)
Shelob Today at 5:11 PM
The game still isn't that bad in and of itself. The only problem
is that I can find a lot more games I'd rather spend my time on.
One of those, surprisingly enough, is multiplayer OpenTTD.
Varda Today at 5:11 PM
Aye, depends on the game is all.
[5:11 PM]
What is TTD?
Shelob Today at 5:11 PM
Transport Tycoon Deluxe.
[5:12 PM]
Originally released in 94, later rereleased as freeware.
[5:13 PM]
Anyways. I think I am going to head to bed.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:13 PM
Namarie, Shelob!
Shelob Today at 5:13 PM
I think I may or may not have missed the whack of the gavel, but I
am fairly sure we've long since passed into after-meeting.
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:13 PM
I promise you that your laptop could play, say, diablo 2.
;)
Shelob Today at 5:14 PM
Namarie!
[5:14 PM]
Your laptop could play OpenTTD!
Sandalf13 Today at 5:14 PM
I have a new Lenovo ideapad 5 with an i7 processor that I just
bought in November to replace my five year old Dell laptop that
died...literally.
Varda Today at 5:14 PM
Namarie, Shelob!
Shelob Today at 5:15 PM
Anyways. sidles off into the darkness waving goodbye with a
fair number of legs
Varda Today at 5:15 PM
I have not gaveled, as we have not done Gaming yet.
[5:15 PM]
Bye, Spider-thingy.
[5:15 PM]
Although Pallando's report did put us in that subject. Good job.
Pallando-Valar Today at 5:17 PM
That should run plenty of things, @Sandalf13. I have a whole list
of low-req games..
Sandalf13 Today at 5:18 PM
Please send me a list, if you have some time to do so. I can
try to do some gaming! My E-Mail is: NOSPAMoilinvestor13 (AT)
outlook (dot) com
[5:19 PM]
Any low-req Tolkien games?
Varda Today at 5:19 PM
You can probably do LotRO, just keep the textures down. Try free
to play just to take a look.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:20 PM
How would I even start? Is there a fee for LoTRO?
Varda Today at 5:20 PM
If you do the free to play starter, no cost at all.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:20 PM
Is LoTRO on its own website?
Varda Today at 5:20 PM
Yes
[5:21 PM]
https://www.lotro.com/en?
The Lord of the Rings Online
Official website for The Lord of the Rings
Online with game information, developers diaries, frequently
asked questions and message boards.
[5:21 PM]
It takes a fair bit of space on your computer, but a lot is on
their servers.
[5:23 PM]
You have SSD hard drive? That is super for gaming.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:23 PM
Yes...I made sure that my Lenovo has a SSD.
Varda Today at 5:24 PM
There you go. You may have a better machine than you think.
I use a laptop.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:24 PM
I do not think that I have used up too much of my hard drive yet.
[5:25 PM]
I also back up all my files weekly to a Sandisk SSD.
Varda Today at 5:25 PM
Very good!
Sandalf13 Today at 5:26 PM
My laptop has Windows 11. I am still getting used to it. My old
laptop was windows 10. There was a little picture you could get
under "my computer" that showed how much of your hard drive was
used. Is there a similar picture in Windows 11?
Varda Today at 5:26 PM
Windows 11 is good for gaming.
[5:26 PM]
And yes, you can check your space.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:26 PM
Where?
[5:27 PM]
Settings...
Varda Today at 5:28 PM
We need to move to the Gaming section of the reports and then
shift to After-meeting.
[5:29 PM]
Maybe some side chat will happen. : )
Sandalf13 Today at 5:29 PM
Do you think that Ar-Pharazon may appears?
Varda Today at 5:31 PM
Eonwe, go ahead and catch this lovely gavel to take over for
gaming. : )
[5:31 PM]
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Gaming!
[5:31 PM]
gavel flies gracefully, attached to a small star, over our
table to Fionwe
Eonwλ Valar Today at 5:32 PM
Thanks :}
Arien Valar Today at 5:32 PM
well Valarites and friends , li mean friendly
Valarites .. well you know what i mean i have to fly as well i
fear
Eonwλ Valar Today at 5:32 PM
World of Warcraft:
[5:32 PM]
This week's Bonus Events: Shadowlands Dungeons.
The PvP Brawl: Arathi Blizzard runs through Tuesday, January 18th.
[5:32 PM]
See the blog World of Warcraft News and Development Updates. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23761707/world-of-warcraft-news-and-development-updates
World of Warcraft
World of Warcraft News and Development Updates
- WoW
Catch up on all the latest World of Warcraft
release dates, news, hotfixes, and more in our latest update.
[5:33 PM]
Check out the Burning Crusade Classic Phase 3 Release Schedule.
--- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23764312/burning-crusade-classic-phase-3-release-schedule
[5:33 PM]
Check out the latest hotfixes. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23739169/hotfixes-january-12-2022
World of Warcraft
Hotfixes: January 12, 2022 - WoW
Here you will find a list of hotfixes that
address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands,
Burning Crusade Classic, WoW Classic Era, and Season of Mastery.
[5:33 PM]
Lord of the Rings
Online:
[5:33 PM]
Changes were coming to Embers, Motes, and Figments of Splendour,
and then they decided to hold off. Take a look at the announcement
and its retraction. --- https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?692002-Changes-in-
Update-32-and-Beyond-to-Embers-Motes-and-Figments
Changes in Update 32 and Beyond to Embers,
Motes, and Figments
UPDATE:
Thank you to everyone who has provided us with
extensive feedback over the past couple of days!
We've been discussing things in-house and we've
decided to put these plans on hold for now.
If we do end up moving in a new direction
regarding Embers, Figments, and Motes of Enchantment in the future
we will make sure to incorporate as m...
[5:34 PM]
And that does it for my Gaming News.
[5:34 PM]
Returns gavel to Varda
Varda Today at 5:34 PM
Thank you.
Sleep well, Phar, Shelob, and Arien : )
Arien Valar Today at 5:34 PM
Namarie for now from me i have to fly
Varda Today at 5:34 PM
Flying is your thing! See you another Day!
Eonwλ Valar Today at 5:35 PM
Sleep well Arien.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:35 PM
Namarie, Arien, Shelob...has Phar been here all this time?
Varda Today at 5:35 PM
Thank you, Eonwe, for the report.
Arien Valar Today at 5:35 PM
Namarie :)
Varda Today at 5:35 PM
Phar is gone atm but will read later. : )
[5:35 PM]
Another gaming report addition:
[5:35 PM]
Lord of the Rings players in kin this past week:
Landroval server:
Eonwe
Falco
Fangorn
Ioreth
Nar
Thranduil
Varda
Anor server:
Eonwe
Falco
Fangorn
Varda
Shadowfax server:
Varda
Treebeard server:
Varda
Sandalf13 Today at 5:35 PM
atm?
Varda Today at 5:35 PM
At the moment.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:35 PM
Ah!
Varda Today at 5:35 PM
Pardon, gamer speed typing, not what I should be doing. : )
Sandalf13 Today at 5:36 PM
Maybe I can see if he is on later this evening...I know that he
stays up REAL late.
Varda Today at 5:36 PM
Looks like a unit of pressure, like atmospheres, hehe.
gavel trips over the hammerpad
clonnnk!
Sandalf13 Today at 5:36 PM
Oy Weh.
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Varda Today at 5:36 PM
After-meeting!
[5:37 PM]
Ok, now let's look into that problem of yours, Sandalf.
You wanted to know how to check on the amount of space on your
hard drive?
Sandalf13 Today at 5:37 PM
Sorry I am such a clunker...like my old 1976 Chevy 3/4 ton
pickupp.
Yes.
A simple way...
Varda Today at 5:37 PM
Lot of us out here. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 5:37 PM
Aiya! Catching up.
Varda Today at 5:38 PM
Phar! yep, he's here.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:38 PM
Wow....speaking of the devil!
See my 5:35!
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 5:38 PM
Ah
Now the rest of it!
Varda Today at 5:39 PM
You know how to reach This PC?
Sandalf13 Today at 5:39 PM
No...is that in settings under System?
Varda Today at 5:40 PM
Devices and Drives, shows what you're using and what you have.
[5:40 PM]
Shows probably as Local Disk C
[5:41 PM]
Under System, click Storage
Shows your Local Disk
[5:42 PM]
That will show how much is used and how much is left.
Mine has 120 GB used, 832 GB free.
[5:43 PM]
It's on a bar.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:43 PM
Wow. It says I have already used 134 GB, but I have 334 GB free. I
suppose that is good?
Varda Today at 5:43 PM
More memory is always great news. : )
Your video card will have memory of its own, also.
[5:44 PM]
More memory means more swap space, too, so things move better.
[5:45 PM]
Anyway, now you know what it is. : )
[5:47 PM]
Sandalf is now in the chat area too.
[5:48 PM]
Looks as if he started up a video for a moment.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:48 PM
I was?
Varda Today at 5:48 PM
Yes
You are currently in the chat area.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:48 PM
My camera never showed up!
Varda Today at 5:48 PM
See your name in Harbor?
[5:48 PM]
There are two Harbors. harbor is text, Harbor is chat.
[5:49 PM]
You can and are now in both.
[5:49 PM]
Your video is turned on, but no streaming is happening.
Sandalf13 Today at 5:50 PM
Yes. I see you and Treebeard. Just images
[5:51 PM]
Oops...library is urging me to leave. Dinner awaits. Will Ar-Phar
be on later, as usual? I can try to reconnect once I get home and
sit down with my dinner...
[5:53 PM]
Namarie, all!
Eonwλ Valar Today at 5:54 PM
Take care Sandalf.
Varda Today at 5:54 PM
If you click on the word Harbor, you will see the streaming if any
there, but not see the text chat.
I ran my camera too, for you.
Since you left, I'l cut it back off.
It's like using a form of Zoom.
Namarie!
[5:55 PM]
(typed in the harbor instead of meeting_place, argh, hah)
Libaries. How dare them ever close. ; )
Eonwλ Valar Today at 6:00 PM
hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:03 PM
Right caught up at last.
Interesting Shelob topic
Eonwλ Valar Today at 6:03 PM
Heya Phar
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:04 PM
I'll have to add that since Dior was indeed Elwing's father, I do
not think Earendil was in fact part Maia?
[6:05 PM]
And belated Aiya and Namarie to Sandalf, Arien and Shelob! And
Aiya Pallando who is presumably still here then.
Varda Today at 6:06 PM
Hmm, let's fix that on Earendil.
[6:07 PM]
Father was Tuor, human. Mother was Idril, an elf princess.
[6:09 PM]
Tuor was the son of Huor and Rian. Cousin of Turin.
[6:11 PM]
Earendil and Elwing's sons were Elrond and Elros.
[6:15 PM]
Huor's brother was Hurin who was the father of Turin, that's where
the "cousin" comes in.
[6:19 PM]
Elwing was the daughter of Dior and Nimloth. This is where some of
the confusion comes in when we think of her husband, Earendil.
(as mentioned above)
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:19 PM
'ndeed
Varda Today at 6:20 PM
This is all especially interesting as Aragorn comes from the line
of Elros and Arwen comes from the line of Elros's twin, Elrond.
[6:21 PM]
Dior was the son of Beren and Luthien.
[6:22 PM]
Dior had Edain, Eldar, and Maiar blood that passed to both Aragorn
and Arwen.
[6:25 PM]
Beren gave the Edain part, as he was the son of Barahir the Lord
of the First House. That's why Aragorn eventually received the
Ring of Barahir.
[6:26 PM]
Luthien was the daughter of Thingol and Melian. Ta daa!
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:26 PM
Heirlooms tend to not get lost in fantasy tales unless it's really
important.
Varda Today at 6:27 PM
It wasn't just any heirloom either, but the ring of the Lord of
the First House, so Aragorn was also receiving the title.
[6:27 PM]
It also held a promise attached to it. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:27 PM
You'd think some brigand would have run off with it over the last
thousands of years.
[6:27 PM]
Or it fell down a drain or something.
Varda Today at 6:28 PM
Have to watch those evil drains!
A signet ring tends to be protected, however.
Of course the One Ring went in the drink so you never know.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:29 PM
Right. Who held Barahir's ring at the time?
Varda Today at 6:29 PM
Melian, of course, was a Maia. What was she doing in Middle-earth
anyway? How common was it for Maiar to hang around Middle-earth?
Maybe more than we realize.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:29 PM
Because that one apparently didn't go into the drink.
Varda Today at 6:30 PM
Aye : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:30 PM
Maiar might have been all over the place. In the rivers, the
rocks, sacred hollows in forests....
[6:31 PM]
Melian was an exception mostly because she partnered with a
non-Maia.
Varda Today at 6:31 PM
Barahir, Beren, Dior, Elwing and Earendil, Elrond.
[6:31 PM]
Not that long a chain of holders, just long-lived.
[6:32 PM]
Aye about Melian - no longer just back in the woods.
[6:32 PM]
Ok, we fixed that mess. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:33 PM
Wait, the ring went to Elrond?
[6:33 PM]
Then how'd Aragorn get it again?
Varda Today at 6:34 PM
He [Elrond] was a son of Elwing and Earendil. Well, it could have
gone to Elros, now you're making me look it up. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:34 PM
If Elros, it would've had a lot more owners.
In fact, it would have gone down Silmarien's line?
Varda Today at 6:35 PM
Given to Beren by Finrod as his pledge to aid Beren and his kin.
[6:36 PM]
Ok, it was held by the Faithful, so it had to have gone to Elros,
not Elrond. Good catch.
Arvedui gave it to the chief of the Lossoth.
[6:37 PM]
It was later ransomed and kept at Rivendell, thus Elrond.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:37 PM
Aha.
Varda Today at 6:37 PM
So Elrond kept it for the Dunedain Chieftains until the High King
appeared and could rightfully take it.
[6:38 PM]
So it was held by both lines from Earendil: Elros and then Elrond.
: )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:38 PM
True Though I suppose Elrond was more of a.. steward, I
suppose
Varda Today at 6:39 PM
Aye. And he held a batch of the other heirlooms in waiting.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:39 PM
This belongs in a museum!
"I am a museum!"
Varda Today at 6:40 PM
It was for his brother's sake at first, I would imagine, with a
fondness developing over time for all those descendants of his
brother Elros that Elrond taught and acted as an old folk's home
for.
heh
Rivendell was a safe place for a lot of great bling. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:40 PM
Yep. And on some occasions, so was the bottom of the sea.
Varda Today at 6:40 PM
True, that.
[6:41 PM]
Ulmo probably had a good idea where those items were.
[6:41 PM]
Thus, he rigged it so Bilbo would find the One Ring, you reckon?
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:42 PM
Maybe he gathers them and ships em off to Valinor, and they go
"Ooh, you found a silmaril" or "Hey, is that a Palantir?"
Varda Today at 6:42 PM
Certainly hobbits were the only ones to have their hands on it.
Deagol, Smeagol, Bilbo, Frodo, Sam.
heh
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:42 PM
Hmm. Not sure what he could do in Smeagol's cave to get it to
Bilbo, but certainly getting it in a hobbit's hands from the river
might be partly his doing.
Varda Today at 6:43 PM
Tricky. Gollum lived on an underground island, surrounded by water
that Ulmo would know.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:43 PM
Though Smeagol was not quite the intended personality.
Varda Today at 6:43 PM
A conduit.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:43 PM
True, but he lost it in the tunnel.
Varda Today at 6:43 PM
But only shortly before Bilbo came upon it.
Possibly lost as soon as Bilbo was inside the mountain.
[6:44 PM]
Sauron was calling it and all evil things in. At the same time,
Bilbo was set to interfere. No orc picked it up, but a hobbit.
It was trying to leave Gollum to reach Sauron.
[6:45 PM]
An orc was the most likely to pick it up. Who could expect a
hobbit?
Just because they are in burrows and hard to spot...
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:46 PM
Did Ulmo have some part in getting Bilbo to the cave?
I don't remember if it was raining.
Varda Today at 6:46 PM
Gandalf was there.
They were taking refuge in the cave. Was it raining? Interesting!
[6:47 PM]
The Valar were probably watching Gandalf's progress. GPS in his
staff? : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:47 PM
When eagles won't do, Manwe might have flies to do his spying.
Varda Today at 6:47 PM
He uses birds. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:48 PM
Anyone noticed a bird nearby the cave?
Varda Today at 6:48 PM
Radagast may have had more going on in the story than we realize.
And that gives more interest to the Thrush and such.
Who would notice? : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:49 PM
Reminds me of Game of Thrones' Varys with his "little birds"...
Varda Today at 6:49 PM
Hobbit: "Over Hill and Under Hill". It was more than rain, it was
a storm!
Well figured, Phar!
[6:50 PM]
Human birds, those.
Manwe's could actually fly. Very convenient.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:50 PM
Ah! Manwe and Ulmo conspired to send them to Gollum's cave, hoping
Gandalf'd see em through so Bilbo could find the Ring.
Varda Today at 6:50 PM
Bilbo was "meant to find the Ring".
It was no accident.
[6:51 PM]
Now we have some mechanics of how it was rigged.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:51 PM
Little prods here and there, rolls of the dice...
Varda Today at 6:51 PM
Weighted dice. : )
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:51 PM
The Valar work in mysteirous ways.
*mysterious
Varda Today at 6:51 PM
tum-te-tum
[6:52 PM]
Ok, that was one of the most fun short discussions in a while, and
we've had a lot of fun ones so that's saying a lot.
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 6:52 PM
grin that's kinda how I'd imagine evolution and creation could
work together. A god who sets the rules for random mutation and
just occasionally influences the dice...
Varda Today at 6:53 PM
I would not argue with that. I've been calling it gently guided
evolution. : )
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Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 8:01 PM
Personal gaming report!
[8:01 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, I'll give you an old one, http://www.kongregate.com/games/JoelLikesPigs/just-passing
Kongregate
Just Passing
You wake up on a bus you don#39t remember
boarding to a town full of SPooOOooOky GhooOOosts
Music by Viktor Kraus:
https://m.soundcloud.com/iktorraus/sets/just-...
[8:02 PM]
An adventure/dialogue game where you have to search a town to fix
problems for ghosts who can then pass on, so you can collect money
and get out of the town yourself. Pretty cutesy.
[8:03 PM]
For actual flashgaming for once, I'll just say that I've
been exploring the Flashpoint app (an archive player to be able to
play flashgames) a bit for games of ye olden days that I liked.
In doing so I found Memohuntress, a lovely atmospheric hidden
object game that was removed from Kongregate years ago, wherein
you have to wander through several levels to find all the missing
items and make enough money to get home.
Also the "loops of zen" series, a puzzle game where you have to
rotate tiles with patterns on them to connect them all together
and have no loose ends remaining. I didn't even know there were 5
in the series, I'm now at the second :)
And also in flashpoint I finished Papa's Pizzeria and moved on to
Papa's Burgeria, where you have to grill and build hamburgers for
a variety of customers, as a time management game As one who
likes his regular hamburger but doesn't like pizza, playing
Burgeria actually makes me hungry :)
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[8:06 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
Blizzard gaming:
[8:09 PM]
Hearthstone: Up to level 72 on the reward track, still chugging
along.
[8:10 PM]
Did make it to Knight-Captain with honor, next step is
Knight-Champion. The initial honor race is over, but there's still
time remaining to get through the ranking and get all the rewards.
[8:10 PM]
And according to the Hearthstone blogsite, only 10% of the players
got there so far anyway, so I'm not alone.
[8:11 PM]
( by Varda's request, and I should've thought of it myself:
Flashpoint can be downloaded from
https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/ )
BlueMaxima's Flashpoint
A webgame preservation project and archive.
[8:13 PM]
Hearthstone tavern brawl for this week is Captain Blackheart's
Treasure; you get a deck full of 2/3 stat pirates and instead of
drawing every turn, you get to discover one of 3 random cards. The
pirates are for when you use draw cards, I guess.
[8:13 PM]
Had some luck with it, especially as priest which is pretty
versatile when it comes to random minions.
[8:14 PM]
Got one new mercenary crafted, a murloc called Mutanus.
[8:15 PM]
Also leveled a bunch more as I got a lot of low level tasks this
week, though I did manage to get Blink Fox to level 30.
[8:15 PM]
WoW: (edited)
[8:17 PM]
For raiding we got the first 8 bosses down, but will be extending
the raid to work on the last 2, Kel'thuzad and Sylvanas on heroic.
Most of us have most of our gear anyway at heroic level anyway, I
think I'm only missing one ring myself.
[8:17 PM]
In fact, I was missing 2 rings, but got lucky with the dungeon
weekly quest, as I happened to get one of the rings from the
reward
[8:18 PM]
Bought a new mount for anima, the Silky Shimmermoth, last of the
moth mounts I was missing. It matches my moth flightform as well,
in colorscheme.
[8:21 PM]
And finally, poked the rogue a lot! Finished the class campaign,
went all the way up to and including the classmount -
Shadowblade's Murderous Omen (a silent raven) - and got to 47
along the way. After the mount I decided to continue Stormheim
until 48, where I completed some stormdrake quests and now find
myself in the woods to the northeast, only about 1 quest away from
48. So next week we'll get that done and then I'm heading fulltime
into the mage.
[8:21 PM]
And that's my report for the week!
Ar-Pharazon-V Today at 8:35 PM
namarie
Varda Today at 8:46 PM
Namarie!
[8:49 PM]
Important(?) note!
[8:50 PM]
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilOverlordList
TV Tropes
Evil Overlord List - TV Tropes
A page for describing Main: Evil Overlord List.
The infamous lists of "Things I'll do if I ever
become an Evil Overlord".
Read them, and you'll be Genre
[8:50 PM]
There you go, what Eonwe was referring to.
Varda Today at 9:04 PM
And, important for us heroes:
[9:04 PM]
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThingsIWillDoIfIAmEverTheHero
TV Tropes
Things I Will Do If I Am Ever the Hero - TV
Tropes
A page for describing Main: Things I Will Do If
I Am Ever the Hero. Is it a peaceful day in your idyllic hometown,
with nothing that could possibly ruin it?
Pallando-Valar Today at 10:20 PM
No one saw anything!
Varda Today at 10:40 PM
I saw nothing, nothing, nothing. (Sgt. Schmidt)
Eonwλ Valar Today at 10:49 PM
Sgt. Schultz :}
[10:49 PM]
Assuming we're talking about one of my favorite sitcoms, Hogan's
Heroes :}
[10:49 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
YouTube
Dutchnoble
I See Nothing - Sgt Schultz
Varda Today at 10:51 PM
hehe
Aye
Eonwλ Valar Yesterday at 10:57 PM
But Colonel Schultz was quite the commander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ngBzCz3Q
:}
YouTube
Admiral Titan Entertainment
Hogan's Heroes - Schultz The Iron Colonel
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