Valar Guild

August 7, 2022 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time

Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]

Attending (and typed): (7)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Sandalf13, Ossë, Treebeard, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
    World of Warcraft, Diablo Immortal, Hearthstone, Lord of the Rings Online
Tolkien:
    Topic: Looking for a suffix to create a diminutive form of a name.
After-meeting:.
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.
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Before-meeting

Varda — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Aiya!

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
Hello

Varda — Yesterday at 4:00 PM
@Bounder Huzzah! The Valar Guild meeting is about to begin! Come lurk, say hi, chat Tolkien and gaming!
[4:00 PM]
Aiya Fangorn : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Aiya all! I Am here too. Sitting in a Starbucks on a blistering hot day...but very dry. THe grass is turning brown, and people are advised not to water, because it has been a dry summer.
[4:02 PM]

[4:02 PM]
The Platte River is dry, as you can see.
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Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
People should be watering the grass at night and rolling out the shade for the grass during the day

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Aiya all

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Aiya Arien!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
Aiya Sandalf and Arien : )

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:03 PM
They could be using that greenhouse webbing to shade and let UV through.
[4:04 PM]
If they did that in Mordor, they would have had more grass and tangled the enemy up

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
aiya Fangorn nice to see you here

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
thx

Varda — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
Membership:
[4:06 PM]
Happy to see Arien, Fangorn, and Sandalf here bright and early. : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
One more picture...another wildfire in western Nebraska n the short grass prairie...
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Varda — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Well, guess I need to respond with an important item also:
[4:07 PM]
https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-musk-cancels-boring-project-after-delving-too-deep-unearthing-balrog
    The Babylon Bee
    Elon Musk Cancels Boring Project After Delving Too Deep, Unearthing...
    LOS ANGELES, CA—Elon Musk just announced he'll be scrapping his plans for a tunnel underneath the 405 freeway in Los Angeles after his boring crews delved too greedily and too deep, unearthing a Balrog deep under the city.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Oh no! Did it escape?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
May-be

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
MAybe the Balrog took up residence in western Nebraska...

Varda — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
: ) Now we know!
[4:08 PM]
Any membership news?
[4:09 PM]
I can happily report that Ioreth made it past that last cancer operation and was in LotRO. : )
[4:09 PM]
She feels lousy, trouble typing, but huzzah she's still able to join in. : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
Wonderful news, for a change.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
Dis has been playing regularly and added new characters to the kin. : )
[4:10 PM]
Eonwe hopes to be here for the meeting, but may be a tad late.
[4:10 PM]
Any other membership news? Maybe sightings of European Valarites?

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
Is Ar going to join us today?

Ossë — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
Aiya all

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
We should ask Eowyn-V to watch out for any Balrog sightings while she is in Ireland. Are there any members active in the area?
[4:12 PM]
Hi ya

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:12 PM
I ve spotter Ar earlier and Shelob as well

Varda — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
Thanks both of you. : )

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
by the way .. a tunnel has been suggested between Mallaig on the Mainland and Armadale on Skye (seriously) because of ferry troubles

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
Aiya, catching up

Varda — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
Aiya Phar : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
Aiya AR! Glad to "see" you!

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:15 PM
it is feared that the continued trouble might caause less tourism and effect the islands negatively .. just thought of it becouse you lmentioned the tunnel ^

Varda — Yesterday at 4:16 PM
Interesting. Sad to hear about ferry troubles. I enjoy ferries.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:16 PM
Caught up Came back from visiting parents for a few days. Had it planned for earlier in the week but my inner ear's only been getting better later in the week.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Have you ever taken the Staten Island Ferry across Upper New York Bay?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Still slightly off balance, but not really bad.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Family first! Glad you had the chance to visit. : )

Treebeard — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Would that be Scottish Faeries or Irish Faeries problems?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Ferry troubles sound weird since my brother's called Ferry.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Hope you're ok while sitting in front of the computer.
[4:17 PM]
heh

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Never been to the states so far L:(

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Yeah, just bobbing horizontally a bit

Varda — Yesterday at 4:17 PM
Maybe chair arms needed. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:18 PM
(also... the Platte River is the Platte Plateau now?)

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:18 PM
Ha ha...the elevation where the picture was taken is about 2,000 feet above MSL.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
scottish ones Fangorn The faeries are still waiting to help the Islanders in a last heroic battle and that is hopefully far away

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
And I'm not sure if it's because I'm not a native English speaker but when you mentioned Musk's "boring" project I thought it meant it just wasn't very exciting.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
(so the legends tell anyway)

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
As a geologist, I am into borings.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
Musk is into puns. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:19 PM
Then I clicked the link and read "boring crews" and it hit me.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
Boring is good.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
Excitement is overrated.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
Don't want to live in "interesting times".
[4:20 PM]
Adventures are uncomfortable things, according to Bilbo Baggins.
Web News:
[4:22 PM]
Gaming and general News tend to have stuff going up on them at odd times. All the membership are welcome to add to that news, email or Discord suggestions to Eonwe for Gaming, Varda for Community/Tolkien.
[4:22 PM]
Also, we are very close to putting up Sandalf's "Last Line", an amazing project worth waiting for.
[4:23 PM]

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Gaming:

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
None shall pass the last line.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
hehe
[4:23 PM]
Since Eonwe is delayed, but ut the info up for us online, we can still view what he did.
[4:23 PM]
Feel free to add to the news from your own games. : )
[4:24 PM]
and if it's a bit out of place, meh, no worries.
[4:24 PM]

World of Warcraft:
[4:24 PM]
This week's Bonus Event: Battlegrounds.
The PvP Brawl: Warsong Scramble runs through Tuesday, August 9th.
[4:25 PM]
The Darkmoon Faire runs through Saturday, August 13th.
Shadowlands Season 4 is live.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23818252/shadowlands-season-4-now-live
    World of Warcraft
    Shadowlands Season 4—Now Live! - WoW
    Learn more about all the changes coming to Shadowlands in Season 4, including new affixes for Mythic+, Fated Raids, a new PvP Season, rewards, and more.

[4:25 PM]
For that one's patch notes:
[4:25 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23833173/updated-august-2-shadowlands-season-4-content-update-notes
    World of Warcraft
    [UPDATED AUGUST 2] Shadowlands Season 4 Content Update Notes - WoW
    The Shadowlands Season 4 content update arrives to World of Warcraft on August 2!

[4:26 PM]
See about Wrath of the Lich King Classic: Flying in Northrend.
[4:26 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23815384/wrath-of-the-lich-king-classic-flying-in-northrend
    World of Warcraft
    Wrath of the Lich King Classic: Flying in Northrend - WoW
    Learn how to earn your cold weather wings in Northrend.

[4:26 PM]
See also these blogs:
Dragonflight City Preview: Valdrakken
[4:27 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23837375/dragonflight-city-preview-valdrakken
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight City Preview: Valdrakken - WoW
    A shining treasure within Thaldraszus, Valdrakken is a testament to the power of cooperation between all the dragonflights.

[4:27 PM]
Dragonflight Zone Preview: Thaldraszus
[4:27 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23837935/dragonflight-zone-preview-thaldraszus
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight Zone Preview: Thaldraszus - WoW
    Journey to Thaldraszus, an ancient region once the seat of power for the Aspects.

[4:27 PM]
Check out the latest hotfixes.
[4:28 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23800887/hotfixes-august-5-2022
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: August 5, 2022 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

[4:28 PM]
Any other WoW news?
[4:28 PM]

Diablo Immortal:
The Season Three Battle Pass begins soon.
[4:28 PM]
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo-immortal/23833254/diablo-immortal-mini-update-season-three-battle-pass-begins-soon
Diablo Immortal Mini Update: Season Three Battle Pass Begins Soon
TBD The next round of content updates for Diablo Immortal is here! Take a gander to learn more about the Season Three Battle Pass, new Wrathborne Invasion daily event, Feature Updates, and more.

[4:29 PM]

Hearthstone:
[4:29 PM]
Murder at Castle Nathria is live.
[4:29 PM]
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23831407/murder-at-castle-nathria-is-now-live
    Murder at Castle Nathria is NOW LIVE!
    Hearthstone’s newest expansion is now live worldwide!

[4:29 PM]
From me:
[4:30 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:30 PM]
Hobnangians is going. At least when you pop in you can get the convenient map to the area for some fast, free travel.
[4:30 PM]
and even try out chicken-ball if you want to.
[4:31 PM]
Lots is going on in LotRO, with frequent updates.
[4:32 PM]
Valarites that showed up inside our kin branches this past week are:
[4:32 PM]

Landroval server kin branch:
Dis
Eonwe
Fangorn
Ioreth
Nar
Varda

Anor server kin branch:
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda

Shadowfax server kin branch:
Arien
Varda

Treebeard server kin branch:
Varda

[4:32 PM]
As usual, Landroval takes the win for being our favorite. : ) It is our main server.
Any other gaming news? Requests? Suggestions?
[4:33 PM]
Aiya Eonwe : )

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:33 PM
Aiya Eonwe Ariengar and Lamerien need invititing on Shadowfax cough

Varda — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Great! I'll pull it up.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
and the cappy is level 39 now

Varda — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Woot!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Heya all.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Aiya : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Aiya Eonwe!
Varda — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
I swiped your Gaming slot. How would you like to take the Tolkien slot? : )
[4:36 PM]
Any other gaming news?
[4:38 PM]
Lamerian is now in our Shadowfax kin. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:39 PM
Two teaspoons of honey and a drenching of lemon juice.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
Bold choice.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
Yeah, I should probably take my Tolkien slot with more honey.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
spoons more honey into a bowl

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
I generally take my fantasy with a bit of salt.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
Got plenty of salt from other sources.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
Keeps away ghosts? : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
Now if it's sea salt, and you've got some caramel to go with it, then we can negotiate.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:43 PM
Sure, can work with that.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:43 PM
Ariengar is now in our Shadowfax LotRO kinship. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:44 PM
Sunwar?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:45 PM

Tolkien:

Varda — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
Interesting name idea.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
So a couple of weeks ago, for reasons that may or may not be remembered, I was digging around looking for a suffix to create a diminutive form of a name.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:47 PM
Ahh, for your story writing, I'll bet.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:48 PM
Well I finally stumbled on it, in a couple of different books used in a couple of different words/names, for I'm fairly satisfied with it.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:48 PM
Believe it or not, I have come across tables that provide lists of elvish, mannish, dwarvish, and hobbit typical names....incredible what people have done.
Online, of course.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:48 PM
I believe it.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
Yes, we have seen them.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
I guess we are part of the plethora of Tolkien stuff...

Varda — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
We even have a Tolkien Encyc with a lot of names from the books.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:52 PM
The first example was in the tale of Aldarion and Erendis in UT, and so while avoiding re-re-re-reading that tragedy, the world "herinkë" came to light, meaning "little lady" evidently.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:52 PM
(I named my WoW warrior after that guy)

Varda — Yesterday at 4:52 PM
: )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:54 PM
The second was in The Peoples of Middle-Earth (HoME XII) in the mother-name of Curufin: "Atarinkë" = "little father" due to his similarities to his father Fëanor.
[4:58 PM]
So -inkë (or -incë if one uses 'c' for the 'k' sound like in later writings) would be the diminutive suffix. There's also the word "Pitya" used in Amrod's father-name "Pityafinwë" = "little Finwë") but I like -incë for my uses a little better, heh.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 4:59 PM
sounds both nice

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:59 PM
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/incy
incy
    1. extremely small: 2. extremely small:

Varda — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Gives you more room to make different-sounding names. Nifty.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
I always thought it was eensy....as in the poem...'The eensy beensy spider crept up the waterspout....down came the rain, and washed the spider out....' and so on.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
"ickle* is also used for small, but that is not very polite to say the least

Varda — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Nice, Phar! I only knew the eensy. Click the link for more about incy

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Fascinating! I once was doing some research on TOlkien and Old English and came across the word "mickle," meaning "small" in OE.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
I always heard that poem as itsy bitsy spider, btw.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
Depends on where you live for the spelling.
[5:02 PM]
I heard it as itsy bitsy spider too. But we used eensy weensy for other things.
[5:02 PM]
Eonwe, see what you started? : )

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
An eensy conversation!
[5:03 PM]
Better "an itsy bitsy conversation?"

Varda — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
We get all eddicated here. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
teeny tiny itsy bitsy incy wincy conversation

Varda — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
Teeny weeny also.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
A man might take umbrage to that.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
"weensy" eh? we use "wee* as an every day word for small
[5:04 PM]
in scots

Varda — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
Aye on the wee.
[5:04 PM]
Well, we didn't use it that way, Sandalf. But I can see how it could be looked at.

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Yes. Enough said.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Wee can also be looked at badly.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
"I'm taking a wee wee" for example?

Varda — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Once the minds are tracked to the gutter, the interpretations all head that way.
[5:05 PM]
Time to not think of pink elephants.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:05 PM
hihi

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
Yeah, we don't need to walk down those roads.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
Aye. We were on words in Tolkien you were looking up?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
Before this tiny tangent.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
just interesting what history same word roots have and in which areas they are used

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
itsy bitsy tangent?

Varda — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
Anyway, let's pretend to be mature. : )
[5:08 PM]
It is the hour.
If anyone needs to take off, get some rest before tomorrow, make supper, this can be our chance.
[5:09 PM]
After-meeting!

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
actually i am off tomorrow for a change dry but still getting tired

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Thanks! I am going to head home, eat my leftovers from out dinner at Bison Witches yesterday, then head to the Telegraph Mill to FINISH my review of Chapter Two...you will have my few comments later this evening, Varda. Namarie to all! I hope you are all staying healthy and enjoying the end of the summer!

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Enjoy

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Sounds great!
[5:11 PM]
I'm going to go cook.

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Namarie , Sandalf

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Namarie!

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Good luck to all of you on your endeavors!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
And enjoy, Varda

Sandalf13 — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
Thank you all! Sei gesund!

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Right after cooking it, you bet! : )

Arien Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Namarie

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Namarie

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Time to see what WoW's been up to in the last 3 days.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 9:58 PM
Right, was doing some other stuff... but time for the personal report
[9:58 PM]

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Personal gaming report that is!
[9:59 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, a few good oldies once again, this time I'll choose
https://www.kongregate.com/games/ConnorBohan/rogue-isles
    Kongregate
    Rogue Isles
    Hack, slash, and die your way through this melee bullet-hell roguelite!

[9:59 PM]
A roguelike upgrade game taking place on various isles connected to each other on a somewhat randomized map for each run.
[10:00 PM]
Collect gold for upgrades of armor and weapons for subsequent runs, and find npcs to give you buffs to choose from and switch between.
[10:02 PM]
Eventually you can take on the 3 bosses located on islands deeper into the map, and then even continue on a "newgame+" if you like
[10:03 PM]

Blizzard gaming:
[10:04 PM]
Hearthstone:
New reward track has started! Since early levels require so few xp, even despite being away for a few days, I managed to hit level 27 so far.
[10:05 PM]
Along the way I've gotten the Sire Denathrius legendary, the mercenary Sir Finley, the Revendreth card back, and a random legendary which in my case was Decimator Olgra... Mankrik's wife, for those who remember
[10:06 PM]
I've also gotten my first 5 ranked wins in August, giving me the Celestial Starlight cardback. Quite pretty!
[10:07 PM]
Brawl is an old one, Captain Blackheart's Treasure, where you get a deck full of standard pirates, and each turn instead of drawing a card, you choose from 1 of 3 random cards to discover. The pirates are there as filler for when you use cards that draw.
Much randomness! As such, class you pick doesn't really matter, though you can try to find some that synch well with randomness.
[10:08 PM]
No mercs done this week, had other stuff on my mind like things to watch and vacations to go on

WoW:
[10:09 PM]
No Rygelon attempts on tuesday, did not have enough people, even though I was home unexpectedly. In the new reset the Fated raids started, and we poked Fated Nathria on normal difficulty. While the numbers are higher, the mechanics are still relatively simple, and we got 4 bosses down.
[10:11 PM]
After getting a top-end conduit from one of those, someone in the group told me that the item to unlock all 278 level conduits was now available without requiring mythic+ rating, so I bought that in Oribos, so now all my conduits are done Should help me somewhat in raiding!
Weekly is battlegrounds, and while I've not been able to finish those yet for this reset, I did reach honor level 99.
[10:13 PM]
And finally, for alting, poked the paladin for a short while, getting most of the penitent hunt chapter done. Have not had time for anything else, but we'll get there.
And that's my report for the week!
namarie

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