Valar Guild

August 28, 2022 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]

Attending (and typed): (5)
    Discord:
Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Sandalf13, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:

Gaming:
    World of Warcraft,
Diablo 2: Resurrected, Hearthstone, Starcraft 2, more LotRO, Starcraft 2
Tolkien:
    Topic: Tolkien Moment - the eagles come for Frodo and Sam.
        Question: Were they from Radagast or Manwe?
After-meeting:
    More Tolkien chat, related to Feanor.
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews (plus) by Ar-Pharazon. Includes Blizzard games.

        Kongregate got a new flashplayer called "Ruffle" that seems more user friendly and might bring back real flashgaming.
 
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Before-meeting

Varda — 08/28/2022
Aiya fellow Tolkien and gaming fans : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Aiya!

Varda — 08/28/2022
@Bounder Yay! Time to get together for gaming and Tolkien chat, lurk, and/or say hi!
Aiya Phar : )

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Aiya all!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Aiya 🙂

Varda — 08/28/2022
Aiya Sandalf : )

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Just got in from Costco, and I have a nice, cold, tasty beverage to keep me company. The world is a lovely place.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Beverages, best invention in the world? 🙂

Varda — 08/28/2022
Yay!

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Hello.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Aiya Eonwe : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Aiya!

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
Aiya all 🙂

Varda — 08/28/2022
Aiya Steerer of the Sun!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Aiya!

Varda — 08/28/2022
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!

slides frosty beverages across the table to all, right next to a heaping plate of glazed doughnuts.

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
yum takes donut

Varda — 08/28/2022
Fortunately our food is magical, no weight increase, diabetes, or overfull feelings!
infinite doughnuts and drinks

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
hmmm, sounds good

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Just properly full? hehe
Because if I'm not going to feel like I've eaten anything at all that seems more like torture, hehehe.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Comfortably full!

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
I had to step away to get my tasty salad to go with my tasty beverage. Sorry!

Varda — 08/28/2022
This is not one of those horror stories. : )
O my! adds a sideboard of salads and meats
Now we're set! Maybe?
coffee perks
Any membership news we want to pass along? : )
We have lots of folks showing on the right-hand side of the screen. Hello to all of you, lurking or elsewhere, and may your doughnuts be yummy.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
I had some delicious donuts when I was visiting Markus and Caity (and Ingrid) in Hilliard. There is a fantastic donut shop in Columbus called "Amy's Donuts." Anything you want you can get there. They even have an Elvis Presley donut, although I stuck with a cruller filled with Bavaria cream.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Nice! those all magically appear on their own plate at our giant table
Eonwe is setting up the Gaming Table for us.

Gaming!

Here's hoping all of you had the chance to game in some way. : )

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Billiards and air hockey tournaments every enderi.

Varda — 08/28/2022
endere?

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Dance contests on the double endere.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Sounds fun!
runs to the air hockey table

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Middle Days on the calendar in Rivendell, outside of the months.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Thanks! An eddication here. : )

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Equivalent to Lithe as I recall for the Shire and King's/New Reckoning.
Roughly
3 days, except for every twelfth year they get doubled (and that except for every 144th year).
But since we don't have enderi on our calendar... :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
so... gross years?

Varda — 08/28/2022
hehe
tosses gavel to Fionwe

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Catches gavel, juggles it for a few minutes, then slams it down on the pad to begin....

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Gaming:

Lord of the Rings Online:
The next mini-expansion has been announced: Before the Shadow. ---
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-before-the-shadow-announcement-en
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Announcing: Before the Shadow!
    Watch our new teaser trailer for Before the Shadow and learn more about our next mini-expansion here!
   
You'll see a video but not a whole lot of news.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Ominous title.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022

World of Warcraft:
This week's Bonus Event: Pet Battles.

The PvP Brawl: Southshore vs Tarren Mill runs through Tuesday, August 30th.

Wrath Classic Zone Guide: Zul’Drak and Sholazar Basin ---
 https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23846691/wrath-classic-zone-guide-zuldrak-and-sholazar-basin
    World of Warcraft
    Wrath Classic Zone Guide: Zul’Drak and Sholazar Basin - WoW
    Learn more about Zul’Drak and Sholazar Basin—two challenging Northrend zones beckoning Azeroth’s bravest heroes.
    Wrath Classic Zone Guide: Zul’Drak and Sholazar Basin - WoW

Returning to Wrath of the Lich King Classic ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23847494/returning-to-wrath-of-the-lich-king-classic%E2%84%A2
    World of Warcraft
    Returning to Wrath of the Lich King Classic™ - WoW
    Gather your allies and heed the call to arms as Azeroth prepares to face the imminent threat blowing in from Northrend.
    But if you’ve been on a hiatus, you may just need an assist getting back in fighting shape.
    To help you, we’ve put together a support guide to make sure your account is ready for your journeys ahead.
    Returning to Wrath of the Lich King Classic™ - WoW

The Wrath of the Lich King Classic Pre-Patch Goes Live August 30 ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23847495/the-wrath-of-the-lich-king-classic%E2%84%A2-pre-patch-goes-live-august-30
    World of Warcraft
    The Wrath of the Lich King Classic™ Pre-Patch Goes Live August 30 -...
    Ominous portents gust in on icy winds blowing into Azeroth from the cold lands of Northrend.
    The Lich King’s undead forces are on the move, and heroes are needed once more to stem the tide of the Scourge before it’s too late.
    The Wrath of the Lich King Classic™ Pre-Patch Goes Live August 30 -...

Dragonflight Zone Preview: Ohn'ahran Plains ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23837377/dragonflight-zone-preview-ohnahran-plains
    World of Warcraft
    Dragonflight Zone Preview: Ohn'ahran Plains - WoW
    Explore the Ohn'ahran Plains, a verdant region filled with sweeping plateaus, mesas, groves, and valleys abundant with life.
    Dragonflight Zone Preview: Ohn'ahran Plains - WoW

Wrath Classic Zone Guide: Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23816544/wrath-classic-zone-guide-borean-tundra-and-howling-fjord
    World of Warcraft
    Wrath Classic Zone Guide: Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord - WoW
    Brave adventurers looking to start their journey in Northrend have two zones to choose from—Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord.

Wrath Classic Zone Guide: Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord - WoW
Check out the latest World of Warcraft News and Development Updates. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23846693/world-of-warcraft-news-and-development-updates
    World of Warcraft
    World of Warcraft News and Development Updates - WoW
    Catch up on the latest World of Warcraft release dates, news, hotfixes, and more in our newest update.

World of Warcraft News and Development Updates - WoW
There's an update to the blog Dragonriding and You: Ascending to New Heights of Skill. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23818251/updated-aug-25-dragonriding-and-you-ascending-to-new-heights-of-skill
    World of Warcraft
    [UPDATED AUG 25] Dragonriding and You: Ascending to New Heights of ...
    Master a new skill and learn how to make the most of your Dragon Isles Drakes in Dragonflight.

Check out the latest hotfixes. ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23800887/hotfixes-august-26-2022
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: August 26, 2022 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.
    Hotfixes: August 26, 2022 - WoW

Diablo 2:Resurrected:
The PTR for Patch 2.5 is up. ---
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo2/23816418/diablo-ii-resurrected-ptr-2-5-terror-zones-now-live
    Diablo II: Resurrected PTR 2.5—Terror Zones Now Live
    Learn more about our experimental feature, Terror Zones—new, deadly areas in Diablo II: Resurrected that surge with demonic energy, and more coming in our PTR 2.5 test.

Hearthstone:
Patch 24.2 is out this week. ---
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23831411/24-2-patch-notes
    24.2 Patch Notes
    Patch 24.2 kicks off Battlegrounds Season 2, with the new Battlegrounds Track, Season Pass, and more!
    Image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9434BoGkNQ
    YouTube
    JinketsuVII
    That's All Folks HD

^What the pig said.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Porky Pig, to be exact.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Thank you, Eonwe

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Is there anyone here who doesn't recognize Porky Pig when you see him? hehe.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
It'll be a sad day when people are too young to know Porky Pig.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Reruns may save him. : )

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
I wonder what his middle name is...Puerco? Percival? Portnoy?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Peregin 🙂
*Peregrin

Varda — 08/28/2022
Nice : )

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Ulysses.

Varda — 08/28/2022
LotRO is still in Festival time for a few more days.
Landroval kin branch, RP-encouraged full server:
Arien
Dis
Eonwe
Fangorn
Ioreth
Nar
Thranduil
Varda

Crickhollow kin branch, regular full server:
Arien
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda

Shadowfax kin branch, fast difficulty slider, VIP required:
Arien
Varda

Treebeard kin branch, slow difficulty slider, VIP required:
Varda
StarCraft 2 being played by the usual suspects, including right this minute. : )

Any other general gaming news?
Any needing invites by one of our officers in one of our games? : )

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
(Just in case, I wasn't serious about that being his middle name.)

Varda — 08/28/2022
PUP

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
I was wondering. Ulysses?
Personally, I prefer Pabulum.
We have not had rain in Nebraska since late April. There is a rumor that some real rain might show up starting tonight and gradually move east across the State...all 456 miles of it.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Well you see, he's not stuttering, he has a cold, so when he tries to tell us his initials it comes out "B Uh B".

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Ah. 🙂

Varda — 08/28/2022
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Tolkien!

I have not completed the coding for Sandalf's latest magnum opus but hope to complete it. : )

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Thanks!
In a sense, my book on Tolkien is indeed my lifetime's magnum opux.
opus.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Any one of those "chapters" or "essays" are pretty close to a book full of chapters, so in a way you have a book series!
While we are waiting on my slow coding,

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
magnum opii?

Varda — 08/28/2022
heh, right!

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Magnum, PI?

Varda — 08/28/2022
Here's a Tolkien Moment for you.
heh

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBIgXhiOpeQ
    YouTube
    AMB Production TV
    MAGNUM, P.I. Theme HD

Varda — 08/28/2022
There's a blast from the past. : )
Ok, now that that's watched... : )
Here's a Tolkien Moment from RotK, "The Field of Cormallen"

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Bit of an A-Team vibe there. Not sure which one was first.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
To put us back in the Tolkien mindset:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix2Ta2wpI0s
    YouTube
    NC DE
    Nightcore – Niënna (Lyrics + Translation)

Varda — 08/28/2022
Thanks

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Love that song, normal and nightcore versions.

Varda — 08/28/2022
It's blocked here, have to use another screen, so will definitely check on it later.
[4:44 PM]
RotK, "The Field of Cormallen"

And so it was that Gwaihir saw them with his keen far-seeing eyes, as down the wild wind he came, and daring the great peril of the skies he circled in the air: two small figures, forlorn, hand in hand upon a little hill, while the world shook under them, and gasped, and rivers of fire drew near.
And even as he espied them and came swooping down, he saw them fall, worn out, or choked with fumes and heat, or stricken down by despair at last, hiding their eyes from death.
Side by side they lay: and down swept Gwaihir, and down came Landroval and Meneldor the swift; and in a dream, not knowing what fate had befallen them, the wanderers were lifted up and borne far away out of the darkness and the fire.
[4:45 PM]
End Quote

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Deus Ex Airlines, as the Bored of the Rings parody book put it...
[4:47 PM]
But nice to see that after completing what they set out to do, they were not forgotten and left behind, but brought back and rewarded

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
I'm reminded there's a song called "On Eagle's Wings" or something like that. [Note: hymn probably known to JRRT; composed by Michael Joncas. ]

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
A personal rant, here: I think the actions of the Eagles in the LoTR are a strong testament to Radagast NoT failing of his mission...he was sent by Yavanna to help guard the plants and wild things of Middle-earth. For him, fighting Sauron was important, but secondary to his main purpose. I believe that Radagast faithfully performed his duty as set out by Yavanna, and deserves praise for that effort, not scorn.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
I agree that Radagast's actions are important, making sure in his way that possibly overlooked things get saved and conserved. But not sure if he had any influence on the eagles.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Those were the eagles of Manwe.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
He did talk with the birds and beasts...

Varda — 08/28/2022
But yes, Radagast was one that did well in Middle-earth.
You'll like him in LotRO if you ever get to play it. : )

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Are you suggesting that Manwe sent the Eagles to the battle before the Gates of Mordor?

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Radagast, as a Maia of Yavanna... got lost in the weeds. ducks

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
That would be me a powerful lot more to think about, if so...

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
or gets lost in the ducks

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
give me

Varda — 08/28/2022
There is a lot of Manwe here. Digging it up for you.
Remember to think of Manwe whenever there is wind.
Remember that the creatures of the air are his.
There is much good in Radagast, yes, but this part is Manwe's.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
True...but I would also assume that the Eagles would deign to talk to Radagast...after alll, Yavanna is no slip-shop Vala.
slip-shod.  My fingers are still in

Varda — 08/28/2022
We also see that they speak with Gandalf.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Costco.
A talkative bunch, indeed.

Varda — 08/28/2022
(We make use of the Edit button!)
Check out the "Field of Cormallen", the start. It's too much to type all of it, but here's some relevant to the discussion:

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
I'm now imagining the eagles with the voice of that blue eagle on the Muppet Show.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Yavanna had more concern for her own creations than the children. She was shocked at the idea that the Eruhini might actually make use of her trees for something besides gawking at.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=statler+and+waldorf+muppets&t=newext&atb=v326-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX6I_dKUYyI4
statler and waldorf muppets at DuckDuckGo
DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

Varda — 08/28/2022
"As if to his eyes some sudden vision had been given, Gandalf stirred; and he turned, looking back north where the skies were pale and clear. Then he lifted up his hands and cried out in a loud voice ringing above the din: The Eagles are coming! And many voices answered crying: The Eagles are coming!...
Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
As a combination of the two... I just found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBbCarNpaDk
    YouTube
    MuppetRocker
    The Muppet Show - Sam the Eagle and Statler talk

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
That is the one I was looking for!  Here is another:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sam+eagle+muppet&t=newext&atb=v326-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpV4F46N21PA
sam eagle muppet at DuckDuckGo
DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

Varda — 08/28/2022
"Then came Gwaihir the Windlord, and Landroval his brother, greatest of all the Eagles of the North, mightiest of the descendants of old Thorondor, who built his eyries in the inaccessible peaks of the Encircling Mountains when Middle-earth was young.
"Behind them in long swift lines came all their vassals from the northern mountains, speeding on a gathering wind.
"Straight down upon the Nazgul they bore, stooping suddenly out of the high airs, and the rush of their wide wings as they passed over was like a gale."
Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Sounds like hundred of eagles.

Varda — 08/28/2022
End that quote.
Note the wind imagery is heavy.
Also we often hear of "the eagles of Manwe".

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Yes. I can see Manwe sending the wind....but i can still see Radagat talking to the Eagles about the importance of the moment. He was a Maia, after all, and was not disabused of his contact (somehow) with the Valar.
Why not both? I am sure it would always be Radagast's intent to fulfill the will of the Valar...

Varda — 08/28/2022
All the Istari lost a great deal of their memory and power to be sent to Middle-earth, so as to be advisors only.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
I don't think he would've had any more contact with the Valar than Gandalf or Saruman.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
But did they have some contact? This is getting into a pretty "beyond what Tolkien wrote" sphere...

Varda — 08/28/2022
The frequent showing that Eagles and wind are of Manwe is no small thing here.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
You're the one who suggested he did :} I think Saruman would've been less likely to fall out of line if he was getting regular phone calls from the boss, so to speak.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Perhaps you are right....

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Radagast failed in that he got more focused on the birds and beasts than he did about preparing for the major threat. He didn't fail out of malice or greed, but he lost sight of the mission.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Varda and I had a nice chat about Feanor during the past week...I think he is possibly in a similar class with Saruman.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Feanor is a Noldo, Saruman an Istari with part of his memory removed.

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
Radagast did got used by Saruman yes .. but he also followed Gandalf's instruction about informing the birds and insects about the threat of the Nine and so word came to Galadriel

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
But was Saruman already taking the first steps down the path that had already been trodden by Morgoth and Sauron?

Varda — 08/28/2022
Despair is what got him. Beware the sights in the palantir.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
For sure...as regards Feanor and Saruman....but they both were given great gifts and squandered them.

Varda — 08/28/2022
Squandered? Or abused?

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Both.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Saruman had taken quite more than the first steps by the end of the Third Age.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Very true. I was being kind.

Varda — 08/28/2022
heh : )
They did do some great things, showed great ability. Made it all the sadder that they took a wrong turn.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1010307/12/An-Estel-Story-Yesterday-s-Fears

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Makes me wonder what Feanor would have been up to if he'd survived the first battle.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Read the Fanfictdion story about young Estel talking to his Father, Elrond, about Curunir at the very end of the story. Estel says Curunir reminds him of a snake...but is chastised by Elrond for speaking that way about an Istar. However, Elrond reminds him that he told Estel to speak with respect for those who earn respect...such as the Istari. Estel replies that Sarauman did not earn the respect. Very smart...a good read.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Maybe this :} :
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Eonwe/stories/Unrest_WhatEvilFears.htm
    Unrest: What Evil Fears
    Poem

Varda — 08/28/2022
We do make an attempt here to make our points using the books, just to keep from wandering too far afield. But that does look interesting.
Well - I have one more thing to mention before going to After-meeting, for those interested.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-release-date-trailer-cast-characters/
    TVGuide.com
    LOTR: The Rings of Power Debuts Final Trailer Ahead of Sept. Premiere
    "Choose not the path of fear, but that of faith"
    LOTR: The Rings of Power Debuts Final Trailer Ahead of Sept. Premiere

More fan fic : )
So if you want to watch, that may help you find it.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Wow. I will have to check out all these great sites that threaten to take me off Discord if I go there during our discussion! Thanks, all, for the good references!

Varda — 08/28/2022
I click them and come back here with Alt-tab
the gavel bounces out, reading a book

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
I wonder what other media that might one day be published on, after Amazon.

Varda — 08/28/2022
trips over the side of the hammerpad
thonky!

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After-meeting!

Free chat.
Virtual reality, Phar? : )

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Kylo-Smeagol says: "The past is dead Precious. Throw it into Mount Doom if you have to."

Varda — 08/28/2022
Just hope they leave out Smell-a-vision.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
And I like that story, but I was more thinking if Feanor had somehow survived (not won), whether he'd have fallen into a sort of despair like Saruman.

Varda — 08/28/2022
hehe  [Note: reply to Eonwe]

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Hey Ar...if we really do get some rain, maybe the Platte (the "Plateau River," as you called it) will flow again. Who knows?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
I mean, I don't quite see him feigning loyalty to Morgoth or even employing orcs of his own making.
[5:18 PM]
Maybe
And I meant more like... tv, or netflix or something, Varda

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
May I inquire as to who Kylo-Smeagol is/
[5:19 PM]
?

Varda — 08/28/2022
Ahh. Well the fan fic media of all sorts will be thick and fast for a bit if they scent money. : )

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
I don't think Fëanor could've admitted to himself that he was fighting a losing battle. Even at the very end he made his sons swear his oath again. I think he would've ultimately been dangerous as High-King, and unless he actually listened to Maedhros things would've gone far worse. He proved he wasn't interested in cultivating alliances for mutual benefit and would throw away allies once they'd become too burdensome to him.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Trystan Gravelle will play my namesake... not familiar with him, but seems to be somewhat Shakespearean so that's something at least.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Kylo-Smeagol => a mashup of Kylo-Ren from Star Wars, and Smeagol from LotR, giving a rough quote of Kylo-Ren's, adjusted for LotR.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
True, Eonwe. Even if he'd survived, Feanor's forces might not have lasted very long anyway.
[5:22 PM]
There might even have been infighting with Fingolfin's forces.

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Thanks. I have never gone beyond the first three Star Wars movies. The first one came out in 1977, just before my oldest daughter was born.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Don't worry about going past Episode 6, aka what us old fogies know as "Return of the Jedi."

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
I have heard from others as well that movies 4-6 are not so bad. I take it that you agree, Eonwe.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
I've seen 1 to 6, Rogue One and Solo.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
4-6 are the original Star Wars movies.

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
I loved Rogue one

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
I'm mostly in a habit of just seeing if anything comes on tv and then I'll watch it.
[5:25 PM]
Same as with Marvel, really

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
1-3 are the "prequel movies", of which Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are serviceable (2 and 3).

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Rogue One was nice, yes

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Ah. Then all that I have seen are movies 4-6, even though 4 came out before moviess 1-3.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
7-9 are the "sequel movies" of which I'm going to leave alone.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Solo had Daenerys in it

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
the actress you mean

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
I've had Rogue One, yes, but what about Rogue Two?

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Second Rogue? ;}

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Someone throw an apple at me.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
The actress, yes, Arien

Varda — 08/28/2022
Hey Sam! Target!

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
*throws an apple at Samda;f(

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Hey!

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
waste of a good apple whistles innocently

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Absolutely...but it is still edible...so I will eat it.

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Since we're in after-meeting anyway, some fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9BpOXies1I
    YouTube
    Oonagh - Topic
    Varda Tiras

[5:29 PM]
And one for the king:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NeSbUgT3m0
    YouTube
    Max Dyszak
    Oonagh - Numenor

[5:30 PM]
And for the rising of the Sun: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdDQWlAy0Kg
    YouTube
    Oonagh - Topic
    Ariën

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
She has an amazing voice

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Fun songs

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Aye, and aye :}

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Well...we seem to have reached a quiet time. I will head over to the Telegraph Mill to continue my work on my Tolkien book in the comfort of a delightfully cool coffee house. Perhaps I will treat myself to a coffee-flavored granita...we shall see. Namarie and sei gesund to all!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Namarie!

Varda — 08/28/2022
Namarie!

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Namarie, Ar! I will read your report later!
[5:49 PM]
Namarie Varda!
And Eonwe and Arien!

Varda — 08/28/2022
Might be interesting to write fan fic that follows the story of what happens with each Ring, or a representative of that group.
[5:50 PM]
Namarie Sandalf : )

Arien  Valar — 08/28/2022
Namarie all

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
dragon breathes on dwarven ring

Varda — 08/28/2022
melts

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Oh, two quick mentions while I remember to do so:
[6:00 PM]
GSMU coming soon.
And someone posted to the RP.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
The NPC!

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
I'll accept replies to the GSMU via Discord whisper, Forum whisper, or E-mail once the GSMU email is sent out. Please don't send them prior.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
pauses halfway to whispering alright, I'll wait

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
:}

Varda — 08/28/2022
puts on the brakes

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Auros should probably let Telperos in on the mission now, hehe.

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Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Personal gaming report!
[6:16 PM]
On the flashgaming front, the Kongregate site got a new flash player, Ruffle. It seems more userfriendly than Supernova and should make more flashgames playable again. I wonder if that  means they'll put flashgame badges in the list again, in which case we might see some more variation in the games

In the meantime, for (non)flashgaming, you can have
https://www.kongregate.com/games/bontegames/factory-balls-forever
    Kongregate
    Factory Balls forever
    Factory Balls is back!
    You might think that working on the assembly line is tedious work, but not if you#39re manufacturing Factory Balls! Your job in this logic...

[6:17 PM]
A puzzle game from bontegames, with 25 levels where you have to produce balls of a certain appearance using colors, masks and other mechanics in the right order
[6:18 PM]
And if you love it, you can always purchase the full game for many more levels, but 25 is still a fun run!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Blizzard gaming:
[6:30 PM]
Hearthstone:
Level 55 on the reward track now. At level 50 I got a random legendary reward, that one being the rogue "culprit" legendary, Necrolord Draka.
[6:31 PM]
All classes over 320 wins now, so that's going nicely
[6:32 PM]
Brawl is Three Wishes, where you get three wish cards to discover a "perfect" card for your current situation. Play one to put the next one in your deck. So the choice is to either play them early to get more chance at drawing them, or later on when you can make more use of them. I generally lean towards the latter.
WoW:
More raiding!
We got 10 out of 11 bosses down in fated Nathria, but the Jailer did not want to go down; no surprise as we'd not tried him before. Had a few attempts on him on normal fated, and managed to get into phase 3, but he had way too much health left... we need more practice at extending phase 2, and maybe putting some more dps in it in the earlier phases 🙂
Plans are being made to practice him on non-fated normal at some point, using the shortcuts we have unlocked. We'll get the guy at some point, and then in Fated, and then we'll have our slimecat mount 🙂
In the meantime, the fated raids keep rotating; we went back to normal fated Nathria. There, with our gear upgrades, normal seemed quite underwhelming, and we got 9 out of 10 bosses down in one night, only Denathrius remaining for tuesday. Maybe next time it rolls around, we should try for heroic after all?
Weekly is pet fights, which went quite well. No losing streaks in my pvp pet fighting. Always nice!
For alting, the paladin cleared the Ember Ward as well as the sidequests there, before taking the Sinfall tower, and getting into the Maw to save Prince Renathal.
Not only did she get her Torghast tutorial done along the way, but also managed to get a pet to drop which my main never got in all his time in the Maw, though I did get it more recently from a friend who already had 3 of em. So now I've got 2 Grappling Gauntlets, one of which personally looted 🙂
Now she's on the brink of completing Revendreth, with one more quest to go; a scenario wherein we take on Denathrius (hint: he survives to become a raidboss), and then a bunch of side questlines in all 4 zones await.
Not sure how long that'll take, but afterwards, it's onward to the rogue!
And that's my report for the week 🙂

Eonwë Valar — 08/28/2022
Congrats :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Thanks!

Sandalf13 — 08/28/2022
Great report! As always!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 08/28/2022
Namarie!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 12:46 AM
Because inquiring minds wanted to know:
https://youtu.be/HCTMGlne6ac?t=89
    YouTube
    8thManDVD.com™ Cartoon Channel
    Looney Tunes Cartoon Classics: Plane Dippy (Porky Pig) (1936) (HD) ...

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