Valar Guild

June 13, 2021 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]


Attending (and spoke): (8)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Elrond, Eonwe, Ioreth, Pallando, Shelob, Varda (presiding)

Contents:
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
    Since we started adding links to the chat, it turned into Web.
Gaming:
    General: World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Overwatch, Diablo 2 Resurrection, Lord of the Rings Online, Starcraft 2
    New global Battlenet. We started adding each other during the meeting.
    Eve Online: Pallando's report on an enormous battle.
Tolkien:
    Topic: from Varda: After removing Morgoth, the Valar (Lords of the West) knew his will would continue to move his servants to thwart the will of the Valar and kill those that were loyal,
so the Valar moved to protect and aid the first and secondborn. What about the adopted dwarves?
    Eve Online report taken at this time.
After-meeting:
    Continued chat including finding a book type and more about Eve Online.
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting
Varda — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
@Bounder Aiya! Time to meet up in the chat channel to swap tales and news and make suggestions or just say hi! C'mon in!

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Aiya!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Aiya Phar : )

Shelob — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Aiya!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Aiya al

Varda — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Nice that most can keep gaming whilst in here at the same time. : )
[4:01 PM]
Aiya Shelob and Arien : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Saying "hi" is for people who can't spell Aiya!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:02 PM
Copy paste!
[4:02 PM]

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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:03 PM]
A star shines on the hour of our meeting!
[4:03 PM]
Membership:
[4:03 PM]
Thank you to the illustrious folk who join us in the chat and in gaming and writing and just have nice thoughts for us. : )
[4:03 PM]
You make us what we are.
[4:04 PM]
Any membership news? Sightings of fellow Valarites?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Fladrif last online 4 hours ago!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Aiya

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
And Arien appears to be a blood elf rogue.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
Huzzah! I miss the ent, always fun when he comes to the chat.
[4:04 PM]
ah hah! Lovely and lethal.
[4:04 PM]
Sounds sunny all right.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
me a bloodelf blush ? why would I ? innocent

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:05 PM
She of the sunshiny hair.
[4:05 PM]
Sounds like a bloodelf to me.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
I had several. They're gorgeous but boy are they a pile of self-interest and lack of caring! Were fun anyway. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Heya

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Aiya!

Varda — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
Aiya Eonwe : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:06 PM
I have a void elf, does that count?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
It's void. : )

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
that s bloodelf gone rogue for you

Elrond — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
Aiya, venturing into land of the triangle people

Varda — Yesterday at 4:07 PM
I don't know a thing about void elves.
[4:07 PM]
Triangle people?

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Egypt? Pyramids?

Varda — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
I feel unedjimicated.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Silent Hill?

Elrond — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Triglavians

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Ok, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Illuminati?
[4:08 PM]
Nyalotha was a bit triangly.

Elrond — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Have to shoot some npc's in eve to get standings, so they don't randomly shoot me

Varda — Yesterday at 4:08 PM
Good plan! Not getting shot, that is.
[4:09 PM]
Pardon, phone. Chat away!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
voidelvels are sindorei aka bloodelves who are researching and using voidmagic basically
[4:09 PM]
but ... they are alliance

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Web kind of:

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/calnystra for my personal example
    World of Warcraft
    Calnystra - Character - WoW
    Calnystra (Argent Dawn) ❮The High Guard❯ - 10 Void Elf Marksmanship Hunter, 8 ilvl

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
VoidElvis? :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
So you know what they look like!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:09 PM
since they got exiled for that

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:10 PM
My pretty angel of death.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
and they are with Alleria Windrunner .. yes you read right .. Sylvanas little sister .. who got introduced to voidmagic last expansion
[4:11 PM]
oh no that was in Legion pardon me so two expansions ago

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:11 PM
Sorry, you typed "Voidelvels", looks enough like "Void Elvis" that I thought I'd make a bad joke about about it.

Shelob — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
If you crunch English, Spanish and Dutch into one, you get Void El Vis, or also known as Void The Fish.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:13 PM
hehe that is a good one

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
Hmm, voidfish.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
oh that s me in typonese tonight Eonwe
[4:14 PM]
i stil got the joke

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:14 PM
:}
[4:17 PM]
Speaking of singers, I recently rediscovered this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zQdaEE-RwU, found out she's done at least one song with Celtic Woman, and well, now I have a new CD heading my way, heh. And yes, if you listen, that's Elvish in the chorus.
    YouTube
    Oonagh - Topic
    Niënna

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
Video is not available :(#]

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:20 PM
That phone call must've got pretty involved :} If Varda isn't back soon, I'll go ahead and pick up where we left off.
[4:20 PM]
Hmm, does it give a reason? Works fine for me.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:23 PM
BAck
[4:23 PM]
Yes, it was very involved. :  )
[4:24 PM]
Looks like a link I want to click. holds hand back

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
i found another nice video
[4:24 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUioohuufeE
    YouTube
    AIRFORCE1.TV
    Oonagh - Eldamar [Offizielles Musikvideo]

Varda — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
I'll never get off YouTube at this rate. ; )

Shelob — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
Oh, that reminds me.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:24 PM
I'd call that a sort of web news, those links.
[4:25 PM]
What's that, Spider buddy?

Shelob — Yesterday at 4:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVg28azacaM
A song about one of the most decisive and most important battles in the 30 years war in the 1600's.
    YouTube
    Piscator
    Sabaton - Gott Mit Uns EN (Lyrics English & Deutsch)

Varda — Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Let's try to keep our links to Tolkien and gaming. Is that one? I'm not sure
[4:27 PM]
But we'll still look at it. You know us!
[4:27 PM]
That was web, unless Eonwe has anything to add?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Nothing to add for web at this time, no.

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Varda — Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Gaming:
[4:28 PM]
But Eonwe has goodies for us in this section. : )
[4:28 PM]
hands over the well-shined gavel

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Thanks :}
[4:29 PM]
Blizzard:
[4:30 PM]
As I mentioned in the harbor channel earlier in the week: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23665021/welcome-to-a-new-global-battle-net
    Welcome to a new, global Battle.net!
    Battle.net is going global. Learn more about the advent of cross-play in Blizzard games, as well as what this means for your social experience.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:30 PM
Does that mean Phar and Eonwe can game together?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:31 PM
Game? Not yet. But it does look like we can be on eachother's friends list if that's something, hehe.
[4:32 PM]
I suspect if/when they finally get around to being able to have WoW of all areas game together, it might be too little too late unless there's a more robust cross-realm grouping system by then.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:33 PM
I remember when we could play Diablo together. Ah well.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
If I'm reading it right, it does mean Phar can join the Bnet community/group we have set up, if that's of interest to him.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Yes, it is
[4:34 PM]
I'd love to add some of you folks.
[4:34 PM]
And a group sounds great.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
I'll try to get Fladrif in as well, when that happens.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Might do that during the meeting while we can communicate?
[4:35 PM]
Well, maybe next meeting? : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Ah, is it active already?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:36 PM
24-hour link for anyone who wants to give it a try: https://blizzard.com/invite/kXkesRrv
[4:37 PM]
Aye Phar, I made it when the funtionality first became available :}
[4:37 PM]
Didn't want to miss on getting our name, hehe.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
Nice : )
[4:37 PM]
Arien in it yet? : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
There it is

Varda — Yesterday at 4:37 PM
Want to make a stab at it soon during the meeting?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:38 PM
On her US account, yes. She can use that one to join with her European one now, if she wants.
[4:38 PM]
And she just did :}

Varda — Yesterday at 4:38 PM
Huzzah!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:39 PM
And on with the countdown,.. er, on with gaming :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
Did the invite suggestion work, Aruos?
[4:40 PM]
* Auros *Eonwe

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
I see Calaron and Urwendi in the group.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:40 PM
I added a Fladrif invite suggestion which requires your approval.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
Ah... one sec, I didn't see that.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:41 PM
Not sure how you can see it.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
Aha, one sec,/

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
No rush, he's not even online

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
There.
[4:42 PM]
Found where it was, invited.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
Thanks

Shelob — Yesterday at 4:42 PM
Oh, that song reminded me of one of my favourite authors, not Tolkien. I was just reminded, that's all.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:43 PM
: )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:43 PM
World of Warcraft:
[4:43 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23646890/hotfixes-june-11-2021
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: June 11, 2021 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

[4:44 PM]
Diablo 3:
[4:44 PM]
Patch 2.7.1 is on the PTR. --- https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23679609/diablo-iii-ptr-271-%7C-preview-blog-6-10-2021
    Diablo III
    DIABLO III PTR 2.7.1 | Preview Blog
    Our two-week PTR testing period for the 2.7.1 update begins June 17, and we're asking for your help to quell the tides of surging demons.

Overwatch:
[4:44 PM]
Check out the blog Environment States In Overwatch 2: Behind The Scenes With The Engineering Team. --- https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23674944/environment-states-in-overwatch-2-behind-the-scenes-with-the-engineering-team/
    Overwatch
    Environment States in Overwatch 2: Behind the scenes with the engin...
    Overwatch developers give a sneak peek of Environment States in Overwatch 2 and what goes into improving the game’s engine.

[4:45 PM]
And related to the cross-region communication changes: Cross play is coming. ---https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23684155/cross-play-is-coming-to-overwatch/
Overwatch
    Cross-Play is Coming to Overwatch!
    Get ready to group up with your friends for Overwatch – Regardless of where they play!

[4:45 PM]
So anyone who plays Overwatch will have that option at least.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 4:45 PM
Oh, also on the Diablo blog, looks like release date for D2 res.
[4:45 PM]
Seems to be 3 hours old on the EU site at least

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
Aha, they just announced that today.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
Fresh news!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo2/23679610/diablo-ii-resurrected-the-gates-of-hell-open-september-23
    Diablo® II: Resurrected™: The Gates of Hell Open September 23
    Diablo II: Resurrected™ is coming soon, a definitive remastering of Diablo II alongside its Lord of Destruction® expansion!

[4:46 PM]
Thanks Phar.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:46 PM
Big eyes!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:48 PM
Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:48 PM]
Update 30: Blood of Azog came out this week. ---- https://www.lotro.com/en/content/update-30-release-notes
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Update 30 Release Notes

[4:48 PM]
Oops, I have a link to fix....

Varda — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
: )  Been there, done that! We have faith in your fixit ability.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
Link corrected here at least, heh.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
I posted a couple of guides for that in the lotro-links section.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
Thus ends my Gaming News.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:49 PM
One for general and one for the T1 raid, that will update for more tiers.
[4:50 PM]
Thank you, Eonwe. : )
[4:50 PM]
I'll add this for LotRO:
[4:50 PM]
Kin players this last week:
Landroval server:
Arien
Dis
Eonwe
Fangorn
Frodo
Ioreth
Irmo
Nar
Varda

Anor server:
Dis
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 4:50 PM
I must go afk for a moment, pardon.

Varda — Yesterday at 4:51 PM
Also, I've been playing the new stuff in LotRO. There's a ton of it! It's considered an "Interlude" rather than in the usual Chapters.
[4:51 PM]
Eonwe, good timing. : )
[4:52 PM]

StarCraft 2 has been kept busy with the team of Fangorn, Eowyn/cenedra, and Ciaran and sometimes Faramir joins them. : )
[4:53 PM]
Any other gaming news? Suggestions? Requests? Invites needed?
[4:54 PM]
Hoping to run a group with Frodo and family, including Melilot-V, soon, so let's start on
[4:54 PM]

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Tolkien!
[4:55 PM]
I have something, but if anyone here has a question, suggestion, or Tolkien Moment, now's a good time to do it!
[4:56 PM]
From the Akallabeth, Silmarillion,
[4:56 PM]
(this is not a quote)
[4:57 PM]
After removing Morgoth, the Valar (Lords of the West) knew his will would continue to move his servants to thwart the will of the Valar and kill those that were loyal,
so the Valar moved to protect and aid the first and secondborn.
The text goes lightly into the Eldar but dwells on the Edain and doesn't mention the dwarves.
It may mention, but I missed it. Maybe someone else can find it!

And we have Pallando with us!
[4:58 PM]
We may get to hear about Eve Online yet. : )
[4:59 PM]
Anyway, when Pallando gets free so that he's not in the middle of a battle, he's welcome to break in anytime!

The Eldar received at least a bare mention on the subject.
The Eldar were summoned to the West. Those that came lived in the Isle of Eressea.
[5:00 PM]
What it focuses on is Men.
Men that were of the 3 houses of the faithful, the Edain:
quote
"Eonwe came among them and taught them and they were given wisdom and power and life more enduring..."
end quote
The Edain were given Numenor, away from the mainland where Morgoth's will moved.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Thanks, Eonwe



Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:00 PM
Hi!

Varda — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Meanwhile, life for Men in the mainland got rough as Morgoth's servants moved among them.
[5:01 PM]
Aiya, Blue Wizard!
[5:01 PM]
How is life among the stars?

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:01 PM
My life is an undending mess of diplomatic talks, battle plans, AARs, and drama management. I will summarize my recent activities in the shortest complete form I can [Note: mouseover AAR for definition.]

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:02 PM
Back.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:03 PM
Aiya Pallando!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:04 PM
A little over a month ago, as my alliance was looking for things to do, we decided to hit a group of piratical types and bring peace and justice to the stars etc etc. They called some friends of theirs who are also conveniently pre-existing enemies of ours, and they started attacking some of our assets. We called in our friends, they called in theirs, and then a few attack-counterattacks later, we have a new giant war campaign with some several hundred people involved on both sides. It's complete with shifting allegiances, last minute saves, ambushes, etc. Quite nice if not for a few of our enemies taking things too far and attacking the people behind the characters.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
They forgot it was an Eve game and to have fun. Sad. Sounds like a blast.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
that sounds only too familiar ....

Varda — Yesterday at 5:06 PM
Here's hoping it's mainly been fun!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
There have been several large battles, with the last one totaling some 500 characters between both sides, and it went like this: We were attacking their structure, which is irreplaceable due to the special nature of where it is. This battle would determine if it lived (for now) or died. We had a big fight, multiple fleets on both sides, just a slog. Our enemies would die, get a new ship, undock, and come back in. Almost all of them died at least once if not 2, 3, 4 times. Eventually they wore us and our allies down.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
It does sound like you're the antagonists, though

Varda — Yesterday at 5:07 PM
Stopping the pirates! Protagonists. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:08 PM
Out of boredom

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:09 PM
We both left the field, and with about 7 minutes left on the clock, we found that our allies were throwing in the towel, not willing to come back to the meatgrinder. We had reshipped and restocked, and checked how close the structure was to death. Our scout reported 10% hp left. We decided to ride into Valhalla shiny and chrome, and do a run on the enemy. Note that at this point, the enemy thinks they have won. They are celebrating and clapping each other on the back.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:09 PM
Great thing to do with your time, removing the bad guys.
[5:09 PM]
ah hah! Not paying attention!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:10 PM
We show up, and do nothing but attack their structure, ignoring the enemy fleet completely --- only, it's at 19%, not 10%. Or fleet begins getting chipped apart, our healers are teleported away from our fleet, and it's called to run everyone for themselves and play for as much time as possible while putting as much damage as possible into the structure.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
And call the allies to come on back!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
It chips down, and we're counting it out as it goes, down to the 10% originally called, then as we get closer.. 3, 2, 1, explosion.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
eeeeee

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:11 PM
applauds

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Sounds like that would be made into a movie!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
We sacrificed most of our fleet for it, but it is an irreplaceable structure and we can replace our ships. We also managed to snap victory from the jaws of defeat.
[5:12 PM]
So overall, quite good.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
applauds cheers

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
very nice

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Wow!

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Well done

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
If it's irreplaceable, how'd they get it in the first place?

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Grandfathered in.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Huh.

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
It's... complicated.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
A relic of past expansions or something like that, then.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:12 PM
Ahh, that would make it irreplacable.
[5:13 PM]
No longer possible to make them.

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:13 PM
It's a mess that the game devs made, it's pretty ugly and it's one of the reasons the people we're fighting lashed out against us. They feel very neglected and under attack and that CCP promised them things and then didn't deliver and now they're paying for believing that promise.
[5:13 PM]
I am sympathetic towards their anger if not their manner of expressing it.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:15 PM
That does sound tough.

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:18 PM
Yeah, well, is what it is.
[5:18 PM]
Anyways, that's it for me.
[5:18 PM]
There's not much happening otherwise, the big war in nullsec is pretty stagnate.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:24 PM
Thank you, Pallando. That's a lot of news and no mistake.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:29 PM
Ew, ack

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:29 PM
and i have to leave you already and interesting to hear Pallando .. that story about Players behind characters getting attacked is what destroyed an Alliance and then Corp i was part of ages ago and since then i never really was part of a player corp or got involved in Eve pvp and then stopped playing basically because it cost too much time to get ships built not too mention the gold necessary to buy stuff

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:29 PM
I just found a glaring typo in my new pocket-sized copy of the Silmarillion....

Varda — Yesterday at 5:29 PM
Happens.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:29 PM
curious about typo

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:29 PM
Sleep well Arien.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
Namarie Arien

Varda — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
Namarie, Arien

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
sleep well and Namarie all when yourt time comes

Varda — Yesterday at 5:30 PM
It is that time for all of us, plus half an hour. : )
[5:30 PM]
a gavel flies through the air
no control!
the hammerpad hops up and lets it
thwack!
saving it from clattering to the floor.
[5:31 PM]

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After-meeting!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:31 PM
"The Edain these were named in the Sindarin tongue; and they became friends and allies of the Eldar, and did deeds of great valour in the war against Margoth."

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:31 PM


Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:31 PM
That typo is most certainly not mine.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:31 PM
Morgoth's little sister.

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:31 PM

@Arien  Valar
and i have to leave you already and interesting to hear Pallando .. that story about Players behind characters getting attacked is what destroyed an Alliance and then Corp i was part of ages ago and since then i never really was part of a player corp or got involved in Eve pvp and then stopped playing basically because it cost too much time to get ships built not too mention the gold necessary to buy stuff

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:31 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that. If you ever get the spacebug again, we're recruiting and while the personal attacks are annoying I assure you they are by no means slowing us down.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:31 PM
Margoth, potential wife of Morgoth!

[5:32 PM]
And you'd have Pallando. : )

Arien  Valar — Yesterday at 5:32 PM
thanks Pallando
[5:32 PM]
Namarie now !

Varda — Yesterday at 5:32 PM
Namarie Sunshine!

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:33 PM
That offer is open to anyone here, of course, as ever.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:34 PM
Thank you, Pal. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:34 PM
That typo is not in my older Houghton Mifflin copy. How on earth has that not been caught and corrected?

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:35 PM
While my alliance is not quite as family-friendly as the inimitable Valar Guild, we're pretty good people if I do say so myself. And we're willing to help new players. There are some caveats in that we are a pvp group and have particular allegiances in game (and particular enemies) but if you're not interested in that there's always the channel and the corporation and I'm happy to help as much as my time allows.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:37 PM
Thanks Pallando,... or Pal, or Pally? ;}

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:37 PM
"I'm not your pal, buddy!"

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:37 PM
I suspect the appropriate response is, "I'm not you're buddy, friend!"

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:38 PM
I'm not sure of the exact term-rotation but that's the idea

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:39 PM
Ok, figured you were doing the Canadian thing from an episode of South Park, heh. "I'm not you're buddy, pal!" "He's not your pal, friend!" etc. etc.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:39 PM
It was, yes, but I don't remember the exact order

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:39 PM
Nor do I, so it's not a big deal :}
[5:40 PM]
I just know they cycled through several words: pal, chum, buddy, friend, etc.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:40 PM
I'm not your guy, buddy!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:40 PM
Lol, yeah.(edited)

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:47 PM
...I will admit the fantasy of having time is almost more unbelievable than, say, Elves at Helm's Deep right now.
[5:47 PM]
but later I'll have time

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:47 PM
That's what I always say to myself.
[5:47 PM]
Later I'll have time.
[5:48 PM]
I'll watch those movies later. I'll play those alts later. I'll read that obok later.
[5:48 PM]
*book

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:48 PM
Well, I will! When the war's over

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:48 PM
Carpe Diem? :}

Pallando-Valar — Yesterday at 5:48 PM
It really is diplomacy, pre-battle prep, battle, aar, diplomacy in an unending cycle right now. Toss in a bit of drama management when required.

Varda — Yesterday at 5:49 PM
Sounds like real life, with a project for the battle.
[5:49 PM]
What is aar?

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:50 PM
"What aar ya doin'?" "What are you doing?" :} (Sorry, I could've resisted but I decided not to :})

Varda — Yesterday at 5:51 PM
: )
[5:51 PM]
hands you an eyepatch

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:51 PM
Arrrr!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Jd_c5R-Yk
    YouTube
    Tommy Jennings
    Pirates of the Caribbean 3 - WHAT ARRRGH YA DOIN?

Varda — Yesterday at 5:53 PM
Trying to correct his pronunciation and he doesn't get it. : )

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 5:53 PM
:}
[5:55 PM]
Someone obviously thought that was funny enough to put on a 5 minute loop, not just a 1-minute loop like what I linked.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:56 PM
Eventually going up to 10 hour loop

Shelob — Yesterday at 5:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Uz1icjwrM
    YouTube
    eKolyable
    Taking the Hobbits to Isengard - 10 HOURS

[5:57 PM]
Boom.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 5:57 PM
hehe
[5:57 PM]
And then they put the replay feature into youtube and most of these loop videos became pointless.

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[6:04 PM]
Purrrsonal gaming report!
[6:04 PM]
3 new badges for me this week among the nonflashgaming
[6:08 PM]
http://www.kongregate.com/games/AnotherPlaceProd/battlehand-web is the first one! A fantasy CCG as many others, but with a 3d combat environment, a rock/paper/scissors-like theme/color advantage system, and (so far at least) a simple-ish combat system where more powerful cards take longer to activate, and the cards so far seem to be basic attack, defense and healing but with damage types and, later on, perks added which I've not quite figured out yet
    Kongregate
    BattleHand
    Join the battle! Recruit your team of heroes, lead powerful attacks, and defeat the evil minions of Queen Amethyst in this addictive and free to play 3D action...

[6:09 PM]
Oh, and new heroes to recruit to play alongside you also with their own decks.
[6:10 PM]
Story seems a bit simple but not bad, amethyst queen trying to cause havoc and powerful minions heading your way
[6:10 PM]
Oh, and you get to level the heroes as well. In all, seems some interesting rpg elements added to it.
[6:12 PM]
Anyway, badge just required tutorial, with fights, extra heroes and perks introduced. Pretty smooth introduction.
[6:12 PM]

https://www.kongregate.com/games/RawEgg/encaged is a puzzle platformer, with an interesting twist!
    Kongregate
    Encaged
    Encaged is a soothing puzzle platform game where you have to sacrifice your mechanics in order to progress.
    This game was initially made in a Game Jam. The the...

[6:13 PM]
You're a little slime thingy moving around on a square, framed level, and you have to grab all the flags... but with every flag you take, you have to choose which ability you lose, like jumping!
[6:13 PM]
Plan ahead on 15 levels
[6:15 PM]
Not too difficult or long, though, so a nice timewaster when you have a few minutes.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 6:23 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/stormwars/storm-wars for the last one, which is... another fantasy CCG! This one I mentioned a few weeks ago when I did easy badge for tutorial and 10 missions, but this time around we got the medium badge for winning 15 arena matches. Luckily for me, the decks I had gotten through the earlier one gave me a decent winrate, and arenas are free to play with new opponents every 10 minutes, so you only have to wait a bit
    Kongregate
    Storm Wars
    Lightning-fast card battles. Captivating deck building. Infinite strategy.

Recruit heroes, build decks and watch battles instantly. Deep card mechanics and in...

[6:26 PM]
This one has automatic battles, so the strategy lies in the deck building, but there's also ways to upgrade and fuse cards, heroes with specific bonuses to unlock, and many factions of cards unlike the 5 colors in the Battlehand one.
[6:26 PM]
This one seems a bit more Warcraft-inspired.

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Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 6:33 PM
Blizzard gaming:
[6:40 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
One level gained, to 456! Tyrande was the lucky one, gotten to 7. Her healing isn't my strong point, but the ranger spec works pretty well, maybe as a bit of a Valla/Sylvanas knockoff
[6:47 PM]
Hearthstone:
Level 97 on the reward track! Almost there.
[6:47 PM]
Not quite the gold I need for my next hero skin, but almost there
[6:47 PM]
Also, demon hunter to level 38!
[6:49 PM]
Tavern Brawl is Blood Magic, with all spells costing health rather than mana, allowing you to pile up a bunch of spells with your 30 health and hopefully clear the game quickly  Of course if you're brought low on the opponent's turn you can cast less spells, which makes it interesting.
[6:51 PM]
Had some trouble until I found a druid deck online which mostly consisted of heavy card-drawing and armor+attack spells, which on top of putting up your attack also allows you to play more spells overall. It's almost like cheating really... most matches are won in 1 or 2 turns.
[6:51 PM]
But hey, useful for the brawl-wins weekly
[6:51 PM]
WoW:
[6:53 PM]
For raiding, unfortunately getting low signups from everyone. Might be the weather, might be the soccer championship, might just be burnouts from the raid and our focus on the last boss... though we also had too few people for what was supposed to be our first achievements run for this raid.
[6:53 PM]
So not much progress there, but hopefully things'll pick up.
[6:54 PM]
Weekly is world quests! Usually not much trouble, but since I'm doing calling-only stuff lately, I might run short a few on the last day, in which case I'll do a few extra. But with 2 days left to get 5 out of 20 wqs, I think it should be fine.

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 6:54 PM
I must be off for a bit. Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 6:54 PM
Namarie
[6:55 PM]
Got a new pet! Made enough pet charms from missions to buy 1 of the missing 4 charm-pets, and I got Willowbreeze, the white unicorn foal from the Court of Night quartermaster.
[6:56 PM]
Between the appearance and flavor text it put me in mind of the old Robot Unicorn Attack game, so I called it Rouna for short
[6:58 PM]
Finally, alting! Spent some more time on the paladin and her class campaign, getting from level 32 to 33 along the way. Not too much, but there's a lot of scenarios and running around to set things up, so it's not too surprising that I didn't get a lot of quests done.
[7:00 PM]
Got both missing artifacts, the holy hammer Silver Hand, and the Truthguard, the protection shield + sword. Had some trouble with the holy questline since I'm terrible at healing - died 3 times in the final fight and the npcs were down most of the time as well - but the protection quests were actually pretty fun, and I think she could tank in the future when needed.
[7:02 PM]
After that, went on a few quests to set up the Sanctum a bit more, recruiting my first 2 champions, including Lady Liadrin herself, and did a few introductory missions on the board, unlocking troops and the class hall upgrades.
[7:06 PM]
And then we can really get the class campaign under way, with the falling star, dungeon quests, and lots more champions to collect  Should be fun!
[7:10 PM]
And that's my report for the week.

Ioreth — Yesterday at 7:25 PM
Sorry I missed the discussion. I had taken a pain killer and was curled up in my own little world while listening to baseball game.

Ar-Pharazon-V — Yesterday at 7:48 PM
Well, you get to read up
[7:50 PM]
namarie all!

Eonwë Valar — Yesterday at 8:32 PM
I have returned.
[8:36 PM]
I hope it was at least a good baseball game, Ioreth :}

Varda — Yesterday at 8:36 PM
And hi!
[8:37 PM]
Feel free to add your two bits to the discussion if you like. : )

Varda — Yesterday at 8:59 PM
Fangorn and I are taking a break. : )


Pallando-Valar — Today at 1:50 PM
Sorry, "after action report"

Varda — Today at 1:51 PM
Thanks! Had to look it up a while ago and it was interesting. Tell the events as they should have happened and let those at the event go into what really happened. Is that right?

Pallando-Valar — Today at 1:55 PM
Somewhat? It's an analysis/report of what happened. "We took our group, consisting of x, y and z, and attacked the enemy, who had a, b, and c. We approached the enemy from this direction and employed these tactics. They responded with those tactics. This lead to success/failure, and we can duplicate/prevent this from happening again by following the items laid out below numbered 1, 2, and 3. Overall, we did well/badly and our objective(s) were (not) achieved at an acceptable cost."
[1:56 PM]
The formality and detail level varies more or less in sync with the size/complexity of the fight.
[1:57 PM]
Was there a fight with hundreds on each side, multiple sides, changing tactics, and multiple hours of fighting? Get ready for a wall of text.
[1:57 PM]
Was it 2 pilots in a 1v1 in the smallest ships? Two sentences.
[1:59 PM]
Also depends on the purpose. Are you writing a summary for those not present so they're aware of how the fighting went? Or are you writing an analysis for your command team to evaluate and respond to so things go (even) better next time?
[1:59 PM]
Internal or external?

Varda — Today at 1:59 PM
That's excellent. Sounds like something we need to do after raids and some instances in our other games too.
[2:01 PM]
Thank you.

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