Valar Guild

July 25, 2021 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]


Attending (and spoke): (7)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Fangorn/Treebeard, Gimli, Shelob, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
    General news from Eonwe, Varda, and Gimli:  World of Warcraft, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, Overwatch, Lord of the Rings Online, Starcraft 2, Minecraft
Tolkien:
    Topic from Varda: Did Huan really have the power to take down Sauron?
After-meeting:
    (non)Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting
Varda — 07/25/2021
Aiya!

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
Aiya Varda

Varda — 07/25/2021
Aiya Sunshine who lit up the right channel for us!
[4:02 PM]

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:02 PM]

Membership:
[4:02 PM]
Gimli currently has access to a computer, yay!
[4:02 PM]
Any other membership news?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Aiya!
[4:04 PM]
Back from quick vacation

Varda — 07/25/2021
Welcome back, Phar!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Thanks!

Varda — 07/25/2021
Hope you had a great time!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Yep, it was fun!

Varda — 07/25/2021
Huzzah!

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Heya all.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Aiya

Varda — 07/25/2021
Eonwe! Aiya : )
[4:06 PM]
Happy to say our month of rain broke and we have sunshine. Here's hoping the rest of you are doing ok with weather.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Been horribly warm for a few weeks, now the rain's starting, and hopefully next week will be more pleasant.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Warm week here. 100+

Varda — 07/25/2021
Now we know where our rain went!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
All the way across the atlantic.

Varda — 07/25/2021
It does that!
[4:07 PM]
Currently 97F here
[4:08 PM]
Cooling down a bit.
[4:08 PM]
Anyway,
[4:08 PM]

Web news:
[4:09 PM]
Nothing from me. I haven't been fishing around for non-Valarite stuff, but maybe need to go back to that? Or maybe even be productive myself? : )
[4:09 PM]

Gaming:
[4:09 PM]
From the games on the side of this chat, that's a major pastime!
[4:09 PM]
Eonwe, your gavel! flips it to Fionwe

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Catches gavel Thanks :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
: )

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
World of Warcraft:
[4:10 PM]
This week's Bonus Event: Arene Skirmishes.
[4:11 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Deep Six runs through Tuesday, July 27th.
Check out this week's hotfixes. --- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23691036/hotfixes-july-23-2021
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: July 23, 2021 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, Burning Crusade Classic, and WoW Classic.

Next week's bonus event: World Quests.
[4:12 PM]
The second wing of Sanctum of Domination LFR, The Dark Bastille, will open up Tuesday.
[4:13 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Arathi Blizzard will begin Tuesday and run through Tuesday, August 3rd.
[4:13 PM]

Heroes of the Storm:
[4:13 PM]
A new balance patch came out this week. --- https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/23686848/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-patch-notes-july-20-2021
    Heroes of the Storm Balance Patch Notes - July 20, 2021
    Heroes of the Storm has just been updated with Hero balance changes! Read on for details.

Treebeard — 07/25/2021
Hello

Varda — 07/25/2021
Aiya Fangorn : )

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021

Diablo 3:
[4:14 PM]
Check out the blog Reimagining a legend: Behind Ethereal items in Season 24. ---  https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/blog/23700738/reimagining-a-legend-behind-ethereal-items-in-season-24-7-21-2021
    Diablo III
    Reimagining a legend: Behind Ethereal items in Season 24
    Discover how the Diablo III team created this season’s theme and sought to pay homage to the lasting legacy of Diablo II.

[4:14 PM]
Overwatch:
[4:14 PM]
The Overwatch Summer Games are going. --- https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23700737/kick-back-and-enjoy-the-return-of-the-overwatch-summer-games/
    Overwatch
    Kick back and enjoy the return of the Overwatch Summer Games!
    The Summer Games are back with hot new content, weekly rewards to earn, and the return of L๚cioball!

[4:15 PM]
Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:15 PM]
Update 30.1.2 came out this week. --- https://www.lotro.com/en/content/update-3012-release-notes
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    Update 30.1.2 Release Notes

And Varda has the LotRO kin lists for the week. Go ahead Varda.

Varda — 07/25/2021
First, the Treasure Bugan Event's last day is tomorrow.
[4:16 PM]
Our lively folk:
Lord of the Rings Online kin gamers this past week:
Landroval rp-encouraged main server:
Arien
Dis
Eonwe
Fangorn
Frodo
Irmo
Lenwe
Marigold
Nar
Varda

Anor legendary server:
Dis
Eonwe
Fangorn
Varda

Shadowfax difficulty slider legendary server, fast play:
Arien
Varda

Treebeard difficulty slider legendary server, slow play:
Varda
[4:17 PM]
And if you need crafting mats, remind us to drop some in the kin chest for you!
[4:17 PM]
gavel goes back to Eonwe

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Thanks Varda :}
[4:18 PM]
Any other gaming news?

Varda — 07/25/2021
My pleasure
[4:18 PM]
StarCraft 2 gamers that I know of:

Gimli — 07/25/2021
back into minecraft for myself

Varda — 07/25/2021
Fangorn, Eowyn, Faramir, grandson
[4:18 PM]
Yay Gimli!
[4:18 PM]
Minecraft for Eowyn and grandson as well

Gimli — 07/25/2021
i play on the pack MC eternal through overwolf app, on the Penguin network server

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Cool :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
Any other gaming news? Requests? Suggestions?

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
If not, I return the gavel to Varda :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
Want just mats in the kin chest or some kind of food too?
[4:22 PM]
catches gavel
Thanks!
And on to...

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Tolkien!
[4:22 PM]
I had two thoughts on Tolkien subjects to pass along. Feel free to comment!
[4:23 PM]

In the Silmarillion, "Beren and Luthien", Huan of Valinor was able to take down Sauron.
Sauron kept shape-changing but it didn't help.
[4:24 PM]
Huan held Sauron so that Luthien gave warning to let her have the castle or else go without a body back to face Morgoth.
Now at this time, Morgoth was the boss of the bads.
Sauron was his right hand.
Should Huan have been able to have this kind of power? Aye or nay or maybe? : )

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Sauron was dealing with powers beyond his own, and not necessarily Huan's.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
Aye

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Sauron knew there was a prophecy surrounding Huan's fate, and he tried to be the catalyst to make it come true. Unfortunately for him, he was not the one whom the prophecies spoke of :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
Misunderstanding a prophecy is not a good thing. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Less strong at that point, or too reliant on one skill, or just underestimating his opponent... and yes, fate comes into play

Varda — 07/25/2021
Sauron's ego probably did not let him think Carcharoth was the one.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Yes, that's also a thing. As a wolf, Sauron was evidently less dangerous than Carcharoth.
[4:27 PM]
That also says something about Sauron's power.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Sauron shifted shapes. His final shape that he had to leave in was a giant vampire.
[4:29 PM]
Carcharoth was a dedicated one shape.
[4:29 PM]
Specialist

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Could also be that Sauron had little skill fighting as a wolf, while Huan was by nature a hound, and probably had plenty of experience fighting wolves.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Aye to that also

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
All that time as a pup playfighting with the rest of the litter...

Varda — 07/25/2021
Here's another. Huan came from Valinor, not as a traitor but as himself from that place. He did not have to give up any power (except maybe being too chatty?) to be in Middle-earth.
[4:31 PM]
And aye, Huan was a practiced hunting hound, a specialist.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Aiya!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Aiya!

Varda — 07/25/2021
Aiya Shelob : )
[4:31 PM]
So the ayes have it. : )
[4:32 PM]
Here's a different subject that kind of bothered me. (I enjoyed the Huan subject.)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Sauron was no worgen.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Men.
[4:32 PM]
heh, true.
[4:32 PM]
In the Great Battle when Morgoth was overthrown and Thangorodrim broken, only the Edain of all the kindreds of Men fought for the Valar.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Besides, Huan is a Maia, he just chose the shape of a Wolfhound.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Aye, Huan took the shape that most suited his fea, his spirit.
[4:32 PM]
Many others fought for Morgoth. After the victory, many Men fled back east where many already wandered refusing the summons of the Valar and Morgoth alike.
[4:33 PM]
The evil men came to those, caused fear, and took over.
For a time, the Valar forsook those men as they took the friends of Morgoth to be their masters.
So Men for a time dwelt in darkness and trouble by the evil things left from Morgoth such as demons and dragons, misshapen beasts, and Orcs that are a mockery of the Children of Eru.
(That's not quoting, but boiled down.)

Shelob — 07/25/2021
And if you consider the fact that most Maia had some power or other (especially Sauron and the Balrogs) it seems to me like there is absolutely nothing wrong with Huan being incredibly strong.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Are we sure that he's a Maia? Pretty sure he's just an animal. A special one, obvously, but pretty sure we have no indication he's a Maia.

Varda — 07/25/2021
And we have another aye from Shelob. : )
[4:34 PM]
As far as we know, animals were created on Arda, not Valinor. Huan was from Valinor. It's a good question. But he could and did talk, was intelligent, not just an animal mind.
[4:35 PM]
Orome came to Middle-earth to hunt.
[4:35 PM]
Did they also hunt in Valinor?

Shelob — 07/25/2021
You are right Eonw๋, he was not.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
No, animals were also created in Valinor, with lives/bodies in tune to the passing of time there, one more similar to the Elves' own.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
But he was a Hound of Orom๋ in Valinor.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
I vaguely recall mention of hunts in Valinor.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Then Huan could have been an animal. So we can have intelligent animals.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
What they hunted I don't remember.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Fel things most commonly I'd say.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
In Valinor?

Varda — 07/25/2021
They would likely have hunted for the table.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Not in Valinor.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Give the food animal a sporting chance to not be on the table.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Though there were plenty of Fel things just beyond the border. Just take my dear old mommy.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Ungoliant's shadows intruded in the South, so it's possible fel things had to be kept in check in the South. Also, Orom๋ did also go hunting in Endor. He could've taken Huan with him,

Varda — 07/25/2021
We do know Orome hunted with Huan, aye.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Another reason to tell Huan to keep his mouth shut: No intel on the area for you Noldor, hehe.

Varda — 07/25/2021
hehe
[4:38 PM]
That's an actual possibilty.
[4:39 PM]
With his loyalty, he might have passed along things to whomever he considered master. Security breach.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
And Sauron's defeat was the specific trigger for the creation of Charcharoth.
[4:39 PM]
Well, he was permitted to speak only thrice. That was his given power.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Carcharoth was of the line of Draugluin, I think.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
The fact that he bested Sauron in (animal) combat is basically because he was, as I would put it, exalted in the light.

@Varda
Carcharoth was of the line of Draugluin, I think.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
This is correct.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Sorry, afk for a moment.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I don't know if Charcharoth could shift shapes though.

Varda — 07/25/2021
We don't see him doing it, but he's called a werewolf.
[4:42 PM]
Maybe he was stuck in beast form, helping make him more animalistic, less able to think his own thoughts?
[4:42 PM]
That is pure speculation on my part, however.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
But then again, it is not mentioned about Draugluin either.
[4:43 PM]
Perhaps Tolkien did not mean "were" as in shape-shifting, but more as in "massive size"?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
https://wiki.lspace.org/Yennorks
    Yennorks

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Like the D&D wererat is not a human shapeshifter, but just an overly sized rat.
[4:45 PM]
Also, sorry Varda for kind of taking over the discussion and pushing aside your Edain / men of the East topic!

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
Thoughts on Huan i had no time to throw in yet: Huan was acting on behalf of the Valar in service of a greater force .. they new that the Silmaril needed saving and thus Beren and Luthien and thus ...eventually was ensured that the one ring was destroyed and Sauron defeated until the last battle

Varda — 07/25/2021
Yennorks are Discworld, rather than folklore exactly. But interesting.
[4:45 PM]
Shelob, we had two topics. We simply went back to the first one without really hitting the second yet. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
The concept translates

Varda — 07/25/2021
Aye, it does, Phar.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Time Travel is not permissable though.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Agreed, Arien. Thus we have the prophecy. When the Valar are going to do something, it can be set in rune stone. : )
[4:47 PM]
I travel to the future every day. ; )

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Arien, do you mean the final battle of the great war of the first age?

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
no the end game battle
[4:48 PM]
whats it called in Valinor

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Tolkien: Endgame

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Dagor Dagorlad

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
yes that

Shelob — 07/25/2021
The Battle of Battles.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
The battle so battly, they named it battle twice.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Could also be the Battlefield of Battles.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
wasn t thee a village called Battle in the shire somewhere?

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Sounds familiar.
[4:51 PM]
Don't have a map in front of me right now though.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Battle of the Greenfields, Battle of Bywater. Can't think of a town offhand named Battle.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Complete guide to Middle-Earth turns up nothing for a town called "Battle" in the Shire.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
They might have named the place where whatshisname invented golfing by whacking an Orc head into a gopher's hole with a stick, but as I recall, that was beyond the Shire in the North Downs.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
ah there is village in Sussex called Battle my bad i think i must have confused that

Varda — 07/25/2021
That's interesting, though. Thank.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Bullroarer Took?

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
sounds a bit hobbity

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Atlas of Middle-Earth has a "Nobottle" in the Shire.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Bullroarer Took is said to have hit Golfimbul's head clear into a hole, thus inventing the game of golf.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I say that that is close enough!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Battle of Nobottle would've been nice.

Varda — 07/25/2021
"Where has the run gone?"

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Standelf in Buckland.

Varda — 07/25/2021
rum

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
The great prohibition war.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
The Battle of nobottle is a yearly rum drinking contest.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
*yells across the bottle .. eh battle: Where has the bottle gone? where has the bottle gone? who stole our bottle - gone"?

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Hardbottle in the South Farthing, Nobottle in the West Farthing :}

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I think this may be a perfect time to gavel into after-meeting?

Varda — 07/25/2021
Golfimbul was beheaded at the Greenfields. That location is why that's the Battle of the Greenfields.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
oh bly me .. the sourhrners stole it and made it hard cough

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Battle of the 18th hole.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
sorry enough of the nonsense

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
That's half the fun

Varda — 07/25/2021
What Phar said. : )
[5:01 PM]
We have arrived at the hour!

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Agreed.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
We'll have to get back to that second topic later. Seems we only got part of the story on that one :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
A gavel hammers another gavel, rolling it wildly across the table
[5:02 PM]
the hammerpad rolls as fast as it can and catches it
thunk!
[5:02 PM]

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After-meeting!
[5:02 PM]
Free chat. And free golf.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Free Cell? ;}

Varda — 07/25/2021
Tolkien never lacks for topics.
[5:02 PM]
hah! yep that too.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
right ...on that note I finally unlocked shadowlands flying

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Congrats :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
Wonderful, Arien. : )

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Nice to be able to shortcut around some of the places.

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
Indeed

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Grats! So did I  Very nice for world quests. Bastion's a pain without it.

Varda — 07/25/2021
and one thing I really loved about WoW was flying. : )

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Agreed, and that's coming from a guy who chose Bastion and has the teleporters.

Varda — 07/25/2021
and yet sometimes it really needed "swift travel* as an option, like LotRO. Are we still flying?

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Those teleporters make it just a little better than Revendreth though.(edited)

@Arien  Valar
right ...on that note I finally unlocked shadowlands flying

Shelob — 07/25/2021
So did I!

Varda — 07/25/2021
So, flying is contagious!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
In Revendreth at least the flightpoints are spread around a bit more.
[5:05 PM]
In Bastion they go straight down the middle, it feels.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
I found myself with some excess Anima and no reason to upgrade the last item past level 3, so I went and bought a mount, a toy, and a transmog appearance.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Who was that Captain on the dock? Capt. Placeholder? Gave us instant travel while waiting for the ships to be reprogrammed?

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Still have to get to Renown 50 to unlock the next campaign quest.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Eonwe, what fun. : )
[5:06 PM]
Ok, guess this gang needs to go play! (The ones who can.)
[5:06 PM]
Or look forward to the next run.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_wzlrB9d9s captain placeholder indeed
    YouTube
    Kuukul
    Lament of Captain Placeholder


Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
well the sun needs to go down . err i mean up

Varda — 07/25/2021
awwww!
[5:07 PM]
Thanks Phar!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
no problem

Arien  Valar — 07/25/2021
i ll see you next time Gang  Namarie

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Good Travels in the underworld, oh Sunny One.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
namarie!

Varda — 07/25/2021
Namarie : )
[5:09 PM]
I love the players that come up with this stuff! Bless them all!

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Sleep well, belatedly Arien.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Funny what we remember, even after so long. : )

Shelob — 07/25/2021
What is that?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
I don't think I was there for Cap'n P. But I did find the song all those years ago.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Oh, the placeholder dude.
[5:12 PM]
I never saw him.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Then I probably didn't either

Varda — 07/25/2021
Ohh, they say he was brought back during Cataclysm. "hes on the goblin rocketway dancing"

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
ooh

Varda — 07/25/2021
You children make me feel old sometimes. ; )
[5:13 PM]
He gave us much faster travel than the boats did.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
:}

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
That wasn't our own age as much as "European release"

Varda — 07/25/2021
heh, ok
[5:14 PM]
See, you should have been with us! ; )

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Oh, I started playing feb. 14 2005 I think. Just a few months after the US launch.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
April 26. I caught the second wave of WoW release as the first wave was sold out.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
It's possible cap'n placeholder was never released in Europe. Back in the days there was a delay in patch rollouts.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Or he was removed before the Europe release in Feb, which is what I suspect.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
I caught release. Pre-ordered the collector's edition, went to a midnight release, then most likely went to a local restaurant open late night to chill with a friend who also went to the midnight release for a bit before going home. I miss those days, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
WoW Icon update.png Hotfix (2005-04-22): Removed.
WoW Icon update.png Hotfix (2005-01-21): Added.
[5:17 PM]
Aw! I missed him by 4 days.

Varda — 07/25/2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2xuO8JBepM
    YouTube
    CraniusPresents
    The Lament of Captain Placeholder

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I still don't remember him. But I may or may not have needed to hop continents in those first 2 months.

Varda — 07/25/2021
Hah, I remember fishing on that dock, having to wait. Capt Placeholder didn't make us do that!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
I was a druid. I had a westfall quest at level 16 for the aquatic form.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I remember that could level from 1 to 60 entirely on the Eastern Continent.

@Ar-Pharazon-V
I was a druid. I had a westfall quest at level 16 for the aquatic form.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Oh! That one. It was horrendous.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
It also meant I had to take a boat

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I didn't start playing a Dr00d until TBC.
[5:20 PM]
After I thought tanking with my Draenei Shaman in Karazhan was a lot of fun.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
My first character: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/lothar/auros
    World of Warcraft
    Auros - Character - WoW
    Auros (Lothar) ❮Valar Guild❯ - 60 Human Retribution Paladin, 213 ilvl

[5:21 PM]
Still my main :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
ahh neat, Eonwe.
[5:21 PM]
Here's a comment about someone acting on the memory in time of need. : )
[5:22 PM]
Being that currently the boat to Darnassus in Stormwind is broken, Argent Dawn (EU) has it's own resident Captain Placeholder. Someone went through the time and effort to  create a Captain Placeholder character in RP, and have him provide portals to anyone who would need to get across to Darnassus. I donated 100g to this guy (although it isn't much, I didn't have that much on hand) for being just that epic, and he was actually a really cool guy out of character too. We need more people like this in our world.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
same for https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/calaron  First and foremost.
    World of Warcraft
    Calaron - Character - WoW
    Calaron (Argent Dawn) ❮The High Guard❯ - 60 Night Elf Guardian Druid, 219 ilvl

Varda — 07/25/2021
(4 years ago)

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
There's portals now, anyway. I've used them as I leveled alts recently.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
That's cool Varda :}

Varda — 07/25/2021
: )

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
The npc in Teldrassil says the boat's out of commission... but when you consider that the boat's out of commission because the tree burns down years later... the mind boggles.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I still like the fact that Mages get a free Hearthstone to any place they like. Mostly.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
I can fly the distance from Auberdine to Teldrassil :}

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I don't like the fact they can barely kill a normal Maw mob before dying, let alone elites.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
The boat's out of commission since Cataclysm content, but only since BfA... brain stretches and twists

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Everyone has a rough time in the Maw, starting out, and I wouldn't say it gets terribly easier just yet.
[5:28 PM]
Well, in most places. The places you're likely to frequent early on are probably safer relatively with the current gearing, but not having that Eye of the Jailer sitting over you as punishment anytime you have to kill something helps.
[5:31 PM]
I get its purpose from a narrative perspective, but from a gameplay perspective it was mostly annoying.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
If you remove it on your main, do alts not have it either?

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
I don't have any other chars at 60 to see.
[5:31 PM]
And I forget if the notes say in either direction.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I'l check.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
The "Maw" Section of the patch notes is woefully small.
[5:36 PM]
Nothing in there about it.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Nope. Not account wide.
[5:39 PM]
My mage still has the Eye.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Well, that gives you a way to complete the achievement if you missed it, then.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
My Huntard does not.
[5:39 PM]
What achievement?

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
to kill 100 assassins sent by jailer

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Yuck.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
I farmed it on the first day of the patch or so

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I don't like being in the maw any longer than I have to.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
I generally agree.
[5:40 PM]
Korthia isn't so bad.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
In fact, I've kind of finished this expansion. No need to 100% it imho.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
But then they were designed for two different things: The Maw was designed to punish you for being in the Maw and Korthia was designed to make you want to be there, hehehe.(edited)

Shelob — 07/25/2021
Yeah, Bliz kinda has this thing about not doing things right lately.
[5:42 PM]
I'm sure you've heard of racist and sexist practices on the workfloor?

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
There's a reason the meme is "Fun detected. Fun nerfed."

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
I've heard of it. I've also heard about plenty of employees and former employees complaining about the agency that investigated and stories that have been greatly exaggerated.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
I've heard there's a lawsuit about allegations. I'll let it go through the courts.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
So, as Eonwe said... let the court sort it out before we start fingerpointing.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Innocent until proven guilty exists for a reason.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Exactly.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
It has been corroborated by employees, even by the head designer of WoW I think.
[5:44 PM]
But yes, not officially guilty until proven so.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
I've been made aware of way too many false accusations and shoddy investigations of such kinds to jump on the wagon.

Shelob — 07/25/2021
I guess we'll find out in a couple years time. Depending on whether Bliz wants to really litigate or not.

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Too many people are willing to judge things in the court of public opinion based on allegations.
[5:49 PM]
But yeah, we'll see what happens.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Yes. And from what I've read, Blizzard might not shy away from this one.
[5:52 PM]
" they rushed to file an inaccurate complaint, as we will demonstrate in court"

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
They certainly have a right to defend themselves and for a verdict to be determined impartially.
[5:55 PM]
Anyway, I must be off.

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
namarie!

Eonw๋ Valar — 07/25/2021
Take care, good night, sleep well, and have fun.

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Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
Personal gaming report!
[6:19 PM]
For (non)flashgaming, no new badges this week, so I'll give 3 older ones
[6:20 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/danielnora/cardinal-chains is the first game! A puzzle game where you have to drag a chain from a starting point through a grid of cells containing numbers, without going down a number and while filling the entire grid.
    Kongregate
    Cardinal Chains
    Cardinal Chains is a minimalist puzzle game centering on the concept of non-decreasing sequences. This is the demo version containing the first 100 puzzles.
    T...

[6:21 PM]
(simpler than I make it sound, I'm sure)
[6:21 PM]
For the badge of this week I'd already completed the first 25 levels, but this time around I went straight for all 100, getting more complex with more colors added  Still not too hard though.
[6:22 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Chandler/lynk for the second game! I found this one through looking for similar games based on the first one, and found this goody I'd completed some time ago, but was fun to replay (edited)
    Kongregate
    Lynk
    a different kind of puzzler with a line drawing mechanic
    100 levels

[6:23 PM]
The idea is to draw a link from one of the two nodes to another, while going around obstacles, hitting certain squares and dividing the playing field into colors. Mechanics keep added as you go

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
And for the third game, let's do... https://www.kongregate.com/games/mrudi/trader-of-stories-chapter-2 which was also one of this week's old badges, an atmospheric point and click adventure in a series, taking place in the city of Bark where a problem with messed up dreams has to be solved, and eventually a storytelling contest won  Also some puzzling minigames, and various branches choices to make, but don't worry, no multiple endings
    Kongregate
    Trader of Stories - Chapter 2
    The story continues, as our protagonist, Little Willow arrives in the city of Bark. Will she find there the answers she seeks, or will the troubles find her fi...

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[6:36 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
[6:36 PM]
Alas, had no time for
Heroes of the Storm.
But with the patchnotes Eonwe linked earlier, there's a few heroes in my active roster I'll have to check out, mostly Morales.
[6:36 PM]
But yes, still 456.
[6:38 PM]
Hearthstone:
Last week of midsummer now. Got the legendary questline done, getting myself a Druid of the Flame druid hero skin. But I still prefer Hazelbark
[6:38 PM]
Reward track to 151 now.
[6:40 PM]
Brawl is the Clockwork Card Dealer: each turn you will, if possible, draw a card costing that amount of mana. 1 mana on turn 1, etc. Makes for interesting tempo-ing, as you'll always have a card to play.
[6:41 PM]
Found myself a sort of tempo hunter deck that has some powerful synergies at low mana, but also a ton of high level legendaries for the endgame.
[6:41 PM]
It's not perfect, but it wins the brawl often enough
[6:42 PM]
WoW:
[6:42 PM]
Raiding: Still at 7 bosses. Couldn't do old raids this week because I was away
[6:44 PM]
Weekly being arena skirmishes, I've been going in there in guardian spec again, which is going pretty well, though less lucky than last time.
[6:46 PM]
Finally got around to doing chapter 4 of the new campaign, unlocking flight! It also gave me, as a crafter, the legendary recipe to create a reagent, allowing base legendary armor pieces to be increased in ilevel.
[6:49 PM]
Got my renown up to 48 along the way, unlocking the covenant-specific legendary power.
[6:50 PM]
Oh, and in my hunt for anima-bought appearance, the Night Courtier's waist appearance got, furthering that purple recolor of the Ardenweald set
[6:51 PM]
And with no time for Torghast or alting this week, I suppose that's my report for the week!

Ar-Pharazon-V — 07/25/2021
namarie

Varda — 07/25/2021
Namarie

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