Valar Guild

February 7, 2021 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by
Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular smiley]

Attending (and spoke): (5)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe (Before-meeting), Irmo, Varda
    (Helm and Fladrif continue to be active.)
   
Contents:
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    Snow in the Netherlands!
Web:
Gaming:
    General reports: World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Lord of the Rings Online, New World
     Blizzcon
Tolkien:
    RP mention (next was in After-meeting)
    Topic from Varda: The Fellowship was nine, and the comment was made that they were the Nine Walkers against the Nine Riders. What role did each Fellowship member do that could have translated into a role that a Black Rider could have had as well?
After-meeting:
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
    RP chat
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Before-meeting
Eonwë ValarYesterday at 7:26 PM
For those interested in such things, a new post to the RP is made.

Eonwë ValarYesterday at 8:08 PM
Links in the RP Discussion thread updated to incluide last week's discussion.
[8:14 PM]
Erg, just got a pair of 203 ilvl pants for my Paladin, but it breaks my 8-piece set. wonder if the 8-piece bonus is worth 6 ilvls, heh.
February 7, 2021

Eonwë ValarToday at 1:34 PM
Heya all. Just popping in to say hi and that I doubt I'll make it to the meeting. Enjoy the RP post :}

VardaToday at 3:50 PM
That was a lot of post! Thank you, Eonwe. : )
[3:51 PM]
Ah, gear choices. They cause so much head-banging.

Arien  ValarToday at 3:55 PM
Aiya Lurkers and star lady

VardaToday at 3:56 PM
Aiya Sunshine!
[3:56 PM]
That was a big post by Eonwe!

Arien  ValarToday at 3:58 PM
just reading it#
[3:58 PM]
and it was

IrmoToday at 3:59 PM
Salutations dear ones

VardaToday at 4:00 PM
Aiya Irmo the Dreamy. : )
[4:00 PM]
Haven't finished reading it yet, but will later. Looks really interesting.
[4:01 PM]

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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:01 PM]

Membership:
[4:01 PM]
Hello from Fangorn and Sauron, who are putting up shelves.
[4:03 PM]
Has anyone seen other Valarites out gaming maybe?

Arien  ValarToday at 4:04 PM
Helm in Wow and the guy i recruited sort of

VardaToday at 4:04 PM
So a potential recruit. And hi to Helm. : )

IrmoToday at 4:05 PM
I have seen Nar, but then again... I always see Nar... in fact all I ever see is Nar

VardaToday at 4:05 PM
Dis was on too. And myself. : )
[4:05 PM]
Is it a time of day problem?

IrmoToday at 4:05 PM
Which is depressing since he is a dwarf

VardaToday at 4:06 PM
Welll, his characters aren't all dwarves.
[4:07 PM]
Guess you don't enjoy crafting dwarf dreams. : )  All that gold and iron and forging?
[4:07 PM]

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Web:
[4:08 PM]
I am hoping to get back to working more on the Tolkien Site later this month, adding to it some, as we are close to done with the work we've been doing on repairing a house.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:08 PM
Aiya!

VardaToday at 4:08 PM
Phar! Aiya : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:08 PM
Bit late, but here. And Fladrif seen coming on and offline now and then.
[4:09 PM]
Also, read the post earlier, looks good

VardaToday at 4:09 PM
Hi to Fladrif by Phar proxy.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:09 PM
(also, snow, yay!)

VardaToday at 4:09 PM
Where you are?
[4:10 PM]
65 and sunny here. : )

IrmoToday at 4:10 PM
Thew Neterlands are covered in snwo, quite unique

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:10 PM
Yep
[4:10 PM]
Been waiting for it all year.

VardaToday at 4:10 PM
That must be beautiful.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:10 PM
Even went out, fell flat down on my back and made a snow angel.
[4:11 PM]
And walked quite a bit through the snow!

VardaToday at 4:11 PM
We have flocks of robins (birds that migrate here in spring).
[4:11 PM]
ohhh, you did!

IrmoToday at 4:11 PM
We will be in the 15-20 F area all week

VardaToday at 4:11 PM
brrr
[4:12 PM]
Eonwe doesn't think he will make the meeting, but he left us a huge RP post on the forum and his gaming report, so:
[4:12 PM]

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Gaming!

Arien  ValarToday at 4:12 PM
nice
[4:13 PM]
i used to do that when i was a kid

VardaToday at 4:13 PM
(Be ready with your own added gaming comments. I will try to give you a second to chime in.)
[4:13 PM]
I've never made a snow angel. runs off to find snow

Arien  ValarToday at 4:13 PM
hehe

VardaToday at 4:13 PM

World of Warcraft:
[4:14 PM]
The Darkmoon Faire runs through Saturday, February 6th.
[4:14 PM]
(so, it's over, and no snow)
[4:14 PM]
This week's bonus event: Shadowlands dungeons.
[4:14 PM]
The PvP Brawl: Warsong Scramble runs through Tuesday, February 9th.
[4:15 PM]
The final wing of Castle Nathria LFR is available: An Audience with Arrogance.
[4:15 PM]
The Lunar Festival runs through Friday, February 19th.
[4:15 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes:
[4:15 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23580183/hotfixes-february-5-2021
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: February 5, 2021 - WoW
    Here you will find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Shadowlands and WoW Classic.

[4:16 PM]
Any other Warcraft news?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:16 PM
Well, Warcraft news is part of it.

[4:17 PM]
Blizzcon info is coming, with a 30 year Blizzard anniversary goodies collection announced!
[4:17 PM]
Has stuff for pretty much every game, including WoW with a pet and mount.
[4:17 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/news/23606574/take-home-a-legendary-loot-haul
    World of Warcraft
    Take Home a Legendary Loot Haul - WoW
    Just in time for BlizzConline, commemorate 30 years of Blizzard games and adventures yet to come with the Celebration Collection.

Arien  ValarToday at 4:17 PM
BlizzConline?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:18 PM
Yep.
[4:18 PM]
I bought the epic pack myself, for all the goodies in all the games, it helps that I play nearly all of them :0
[4:18 PM]
*

Arien  ValarToday at 4:18 PM
:)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:19 PM
New WoW mount is beautiful. Quite unique, even for a bear.

VardaToday at 4:19 PM
: )
[4:19 PM]
Phar, for you that sounds like a good deal.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:20 PM
It does!

VardaToday at 4:20 PM
Eonwe also mentions this:
[4:20 PM]
Blizzard is celebrating 30 years this month and will be holding Blizzconline February 19th and 20th, as well as selling some digital content packages with items for their games.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:20 PM
 there it is

VardaToday at 4:20 PM
https://blizzcon.com/en-us/news/23617534
    Get Ready for BlizzConline™ February 19–20
    We’re planning six channels of community events and game content, and you can watch it all free on BlizzCon.com!

[4:21 PM]

Hearthstone:
[4:21 PM]
The Lunar Festival is going in Hearthstone.
[4:21 PM]
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23620128/celebrating-lunar-new-year-in-hearthstone
    Celebrating Lunar New Year in Hearthstone!
    Lunar New Year brings new quests, a fan favorite tavern brawl, and new Three Kingdoms Hero skins!

[4:22 PM]

Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:23 PM]
Landroval server:
Dis
Elwing
Eonwe
Frodo
Irmo
Lenwe
Nar
Nimrodel
Varda

Ithil server:
Dis
Eonwe
Varda (for meeting report; rent for personal house; mathoms)

Anor server:
Arien
Varda (for meeting report; rent for kin house and personal house; mathoms)
[4:23 PM]
I haven't been playing much but hope to again soon, like this upcoming week. : )
[4:24 PM]
Hoping to do more group content, and at least get more embers. Maybe I can rope in Irmo!

IrmoToday at 4:25 PM
Very keen on those embers

VardaToday at 4:25 PM
ahh, some Harrowing duos! and such.

IrmoToday at 4:25 PM
Yesss

VardaToday at 4:25 PM
Woot!
[4:25 PM]
Any other gaming news?
[4:27 PM]
I see members currently gaming in Endless Space 2, World of Warcraft Classic, Starcraft II, The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings, All the Mods 6, World of Warcraft, Path of Exile (and earlier Lord of the Rings Online).

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:27 PM
All the Mods? I'm curious now.

IrmoToday at 4:27 PM
My band of friends will be participating in New World starting next month; IF it goes live as planned

VardaToday at 4:28 PM
Gimli is doing that one right now (All the Mods 6), if you want to message him.

Arien  ValarToday at 4:28 PM
I am back on Steam and changed my  Screenname there to ArienValar so Valarites can find me

VardaToday at 4:28 PM
Do we have a link to New World?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:28 PM
Oh, a bit of googling tells me it's a pack for Minecraft.

VardaToday at 4:28 PM
Yay Arien! Did you find Scatha's place on Steam for the Valarites?

Arien  ValarToday at 4:29 PM
think i have him there yes

VardaToday at 4:29 PM
Thanks, Phar. Also, we have several that play Minecraft. : )
[4:29 PM]
Great! Bet he'd love to hear from you, even an aiya. I'd like to know if he's still actively there.
[4:30 PM]
https://www.newworld.com/en-us
    New World
    New World is an open world MMO PC game from Amazon Games. Overcome the brutal legions of The Corrupted and draw battle lines with competing players in this land of danger and opportunity.
[4:30 PM]
Is that it, Irmo?

IrmoToday at 4:32 PM
Yep thanks Phar

VardaToday at 4:33 PM
On to
[4:33 PM]

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Tolkien!
[4:34 PM]
First off, of course, we have the RP super post from Auros. : )  I still have to finish reading it and hope to be posting soon thereafter.
[4:35 PM]
Did anyone have a Tolkien-related question, suggestion, cool link? I have a topic for afterwards.
[4:36 PM]
Here you go:
[4:36 PM]
The Fellowship was nine, and the comment was made that they were the Nine Walkers against the Nine Riders. What role did each Fellowship member do that could have translated into a role that a Black Rider could have had as well?
[4:37 PM]
(Yep, speculation time.)

IrmoToday at 4:37 PM
Toughy!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:37 PM
Ehr. Legolas was a good scout?

IrmoToday at 4:38 PM
I think the only answer I can come up with is:....
[4:38 PM]
NONE

VardaToday at 4:39 PM
How about:
[4:39 PM]
Aragorn: group leader, king, distraction: Aragorn and the Witch-king.
[4:39 PM]
The Witch-king did distract Gandalf at the gate of Minas Tirith until the Rohirrim arrived.

IrmoToday at 4:40 PM
Superficially Aragorn fulfills the role of the Witch-King as leader, but that is where it stops; the Witch-King leads by fear; Aragorn never does that

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:41 PM
Hmm, yes, Gandalf's also parallel to the Witch-king in "magical" ability.

IrmoToday at 4:41 PM
I stick with none :)

VardaToday at 4:42 PM
I agree that they have different styles and are opposite. But they have a similar role. A king leader and a king leader.
[4:42 PM]
So they are like the opposite number.
[4:42 PM]
Quote: A person who holds a position in an organization or system corresponding to that of a person in another organization or system; a counterpart.
[4:44 PM]
Do you others agree with Irmo that there are no counterparts other than number?

IrmoToday at 4:45 PM
Other than the Witch-King, the roles of the other 8 are pretty much in the dark

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:45 PM
Well, there is the leadership role. Otherwise we don't know much of roles between the nine.
[4:45 PM]
What Irmo said.

IrmoToday at 4:45 PM
Great minds Phar
[4:46 PM]
Might we agree that between the fellowship of 9 and the Nazgul the differences ouweight any similarities?

VardaToday at 4:46 PM
Ok, we can at least say what roles the Fellowship members had. : )
[4:46 PM]
They could have been like opposites. Thus, opposition.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:47 PM
The mage, the ranger, the fighter, the scout, the bar- was there a bard?

IrmoToday at 4:48 PM
The fellowship has 4 hobbits, there are none within the Nazgul who could be related to that role for sure

VardaToday at 4:48 PM
A hobbit is a race, not a role. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:49 PM
One of the hobbits carried a ring, which I'm sure the Nazgul know how to do
[4:49 PM]
Also I wonder if there was someone in a more servant role.

VardaToday at 4:49 PM
All of the Nazgul had at one time worn a ring.

IrmoToday at 4:49 PM
Wow Varda, which of the Nazgul would be the Pippin fool of a took? Haha:)

Arien  ValarToday at 4:49 PM
hobbit at least one .. burglar

VardaToday at 4:49 PM
Frodo: the one able to carry the important item; the one that could destroy Sauron and his works. Could there have been one Nazgul that could have taken the Ring back to Sauron? Or maybe carry Frodo off without grabbing the Ring for himself?

Arien  ValarToday at 4:50 PM
pippin maybe?

VardaToday at 4:50 PM
Irmo, there's always a person in a group that is or feels picked on, so why not. ; )
[4:50 PM]
Sam: the support for Frodo and possibly decoy; spy. The one Nazgul that could support the Frodoesque Nazgul.
[4:51 PM]
Boromir: the one that sacrificed himself for redemption and at last agreed that Aragorn was king (no analog); the one that fell to the Ring most easily due to lack of knowledge and of need and of the directness of his character. The Nazgul that fell first?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:51 PM
The Merry Nazgul whose job it was to take care for the Pippin nazgul

VardaToday at 4:51 PM
Gimli: melee with an axe and throwing axes, very strong and blocky. A Nazgul who is blocky and melee.

IrmoToday at 4:51 PM
Hehehehe:)

VardaToday at 4:51 PM
Nice Phar : )
[4:51 PM]
Legolas: ranged fighter with a bow. A Nazgul that throws magic.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:52 PM
I could see a Nazgul shooting down with some powerful crossbow.

VardaToday at 4:52 PM
Yet we never hear of such a shot. Maybe the throwing of dread?

IrmoToday at 4:52 PM
This is fun, but I am going to set myself to dreamland, night all

VardaToday at 4:52 PM
Peregrin: Future Thain of the Shire (32nd) learning about the outside world; decoy for Frodo. Perhaps a Nazgul that shows a lot of promise as a potential future leader of some area or activity but not one yet?
[4:53 PM]
Meriadoc: Decoy for Frodo; protector of the future Thane/Thain, himself the future Master of Brandybuck Hall.
[4:53 PM]
And I'm done. : )
[4:53 PM]
Good night, Irmo!
[4:53 PM]
It was just a fun thought about roles in the Fellowship that might have been mirrored by the Nine.

Arien  ValarToday at 4:53 PM
good nightg irmo

VardaToday at 4:53 PM
We know little about the Nine. It could help in a fan fic.
[4:54 PM]
the gavel hops towards the hammerpad
[4:54 PM]
the hammerpad rolls onto its side and goes towards the gavel
[4:54 PM]
collllllide! Thumpity thump!
[4:54 PM]

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After-meeting!
[4:54 PM]
Free chat

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:54 PM
Namarie!
[4:54 PM]
And yes, we do have some names, and who went where during the chase of the Ring.
[4:54 PM]
Khamul was the second-highest, I believe.

VardaToday at 4:55 PM
Aye, he was the second

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:55 PM
Do we have a second in command for the Fellowship?

VardaToday at 4:55 PM
Gandalf, Aragorn
[4:55 PM]
Good question. Frodo?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:56 PM
Frodo was the implied leader in general, in the long term, since the Fellowship swore to either accompany him or leave him, not force him to go where he did not want.
[4:56 PM]
I suppose Gandalf and Aragorn were more like... the guides and strategic commanders.
[4:57 PM]
Sure, they could convince him... Boromir certainly tried.. but ultimately it was up to Frodo.
[4:58 PM]
We know the Nazgul would split up in their searches as well, as the Fellowship did. If Frodo was the leader equal to the Witch-king, Aragorn or Gandalf might have been Khamul leading part of the gang onto a different path, fighting for the same goal.

Arien  ValarToday at 4:59 PM
((by the way coming back to dwarven delights i link you two videos from Wind Rose epic dwarven power metal where Tolkien shines through now and again so be aware of certain familiar themes and names 
[4:59 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWGMQsasRw
    YouTube
    Napalm Records
    WIND ROSE - Wintersaga (Official Lyric Video) | Napalm Records

[5:00 PM]
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FW4F5bi2Nc
    YouTube
    Napalm Records
    WIND ROSE - We Were Warriors (Official Video) | Napalm Records

[5:00 PM]
enjoy  ))
[5:01 PM]
carry on just thought i drop this in before i have to drop out and you are not finished yet

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:01 PM
Not sure, we might be done

VardaToday at 5:04 PM
Pardon. It's After-meeting and I was answering the phone.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:04 PM
I know, no pressure to respond

VardaToday at 5:04 PM
Sorry, respond to what?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:05 PM
Exactly!

VardaToday at 5:05 PM
Thanks for the music. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:05 PM
Ehr, I mean, if you wanted to say anything about my most recent remarks on the subject.

VardaToday at 5:05 PM
Ah, about Frodo!
[5:06 PM]
Yep, pretty tough to make a counter-character out of Frodo and the Witch-king. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:06 PM
hehe
[5:06 PM]
Well, no man did kill him.

VardaToday at 5:07 PM
He sailed to the West, so aye to that.

Arien  ValarToday at 5:08 PM
a certain parallel to Feanor i see as well in Frodo
[5:08 PM]
you klnow he went to the end with so much suffering
[5:09 PM]
Frodo but in the very end as he stood at the sammath Naur he was ready to givion to temptation of the ring#
[5:10 PM]
the Valar asked for the Silmaril for the rescue of the eternal light of the trees but the silmaril had sorlt of taken possession of Feanors heart so he abandoned all reason
[5:10 PM]
and loyalty
[5:11 PM]
see what i mean? it might be a bit far fetched

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:11 PM
Feanor did go a bit "Precious" there, if that's what you mean.

Arien  ValarToday at 5:11 PM
ayep
[5:11 PM]
Feanor > Gollum :)?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:11 PM
hehe
[5:12 PM]
Well, yes, Frodo was in a similar situation.

VardaToday at 5:14 PM
Frodo was supposed to have backup in the form of the Fellowship, as it was known that no ringbearer could purposely destroy the ring. The irony is that Gollum became the unintentional backup.
[5:14 PM]
Yet Frodo set that up by the oath Gollum swore on the Precious.
[5:15 PM]
He could be forced over a cliff or into fire. It was both!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:15 PM
Would Sam have stopped Frodo without Gollum there?
[5:15 PM]
He was the backup remaining.

VardaToday at 5:16 PM
Sam was not stopping Frodo.
[5:18 PM]
Let's see why not. looks in book
[5:20 PM]
Frodo headed up the climbing path while Sam fought with Gollum.
[5:20 PM]
They were separated at that time.
[5:21 PM]
Sam went after Frodo with Gollum slinking behind him but Sam didn't see Gollum.
[5:21 PM]
Sam looks around the mouth into the door of the Sammath Naur but couldn't see, so he pulled out the phial.
[5:22 PM]
but although it glowed, it threw no light.
[5:22 PM]
He moves slowly in the dark.
[5:23 PM]
The lava makes a jump up and he can see Frodo at the Crack of Doom, where he should be to throw in the Ring.
[5:23 PM]
But Frodo chooses not to destroy the Ring (as expected) but then he puts it on and Sam loses sight of him again.
[5:24 PM]
Gollum strikes Sam in the back and flings him aside and Sam blacks out for a short time.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:24 PM
So it's more like Sam never got the chance to persuade or otherwise stop him.

VardaToday at 5:24 PM
When Sam gets up
[5:24 PM]
Gollum is already attacking invisible Frodo.
[5:24 PM]
Aye, Phar.
[5:25 PM]
Gollum bites off Frodo's finger with the Ring on it and dances with it but falls over the cliff as he does so.
[5:26 PM]
Frodo becomes visible and Sam runs to him to help.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:26 PM
"Reaaach- oh, you're still up."

VardaToday at 5:26 PM
So Sam never got to show what he would have done. Gollum did not hesitate and could possibly see a bit into the otherworld or at least scent.
[5:27 PM]
The Ring was still on Frodo's finger and still reacting to what Frodo had said as if it were an instruction/order. Bye bye Gollum.
[5:28 PM]
Would Sam have been able to go against Frodo and take the Ring? Frodo had powered up a lot when he put the Ring on.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:28 PM
Hoist by its own petard.

VardaToday at 5:28 PM
Aye : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:28 PM
Sam probably would've started by trying to talk to him, persuade him to let it go, though it wouldn't have helped.

VardaToday at 5:28 PM
What could Sam have done if Gollum had not been there?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:29 PM
As for physically stopping him.. tough one.

VardaToday at 5:29 PM
Aye, he would try to talk him down.
[5:29 PM]
They would not have had much time, as the Nine were flying there.
[5:30 PM]
They knew the Ring was Sauron's and had some of him in it. Sauron was its true master, so they still served Sauron but might pretend to serve Frodo until Sauron could reach them.
[5:30 PM]
And no Sauron was not an eyeball. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:30 PM
hehe
[5:30 PM]
I do remember a sort of draft or outline from the History wherein Sam ended up facing a Nazgul at the entrance.

VardaToday at 5:30 PM
Gollum said he saw that a finger was missing from his blackened hand.
[5:31 PM]
Sam did have the phial, might have acted as a form of armor?
[5:31 PM]
He was also  not the target.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:32 PM
I think it was also a way to show how far he'd come. But I think Tolkien realized it'd still not be a very fair match.

VardaToday at 5:32 PM
The Nazgul would have overwhelmed them when ready. Or Sauron himself. Or all together.
[5:32 PM]
Aye, far from a fair match!
[5:32 PM]
If the whole Fellowship or more had been there, one or more might have been right by Frodo, preventing him from what they knew he would be compelled to do.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:33 PM
Each holding him by a limb.

VardaToday at 5:33 PM
They had members stronger than he was, probably on purpose.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:33 PM
I suppose Sam was stronger than he was, in a general manner... but maybe not when invisible and powered up.

VardaToday at 5:33 PM
They might have knocked it from his hand.
[5:34 PM]
Sam had just been knocked out and bloodied.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:34 PM
Before he put it on? Maybe. Sam never got the chance.
[5:34 PM]
Aye.

VardaToday at 5:34 PM
But would not have been if Gollum had not been present.
[5:34 PM]
Other Fellowship members could have stepped into that altercation.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:34 PM
You did say Frodo had already put on the Ring when Sam got knocked out.

VardaToday at 5:34 PM
Aye

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:35 PM
Knocking it from his hand is one thing. Knocking it from an invisible finger is more complicated

VardaToday at 5:35 PM
When Sam gets up
Gollum is already attacking invisible Frodo.
[5:35 PM]
(that was a recopy to show you're right)
Note: more of the quote added during making of the transcript:
[5:23 PM]
The lava makes a jump up and he can see Frodo at the Crack of Doom, where he should be to throw in the Ring.
[5:23 PM]
But Frodo chooses not to destroy the Ring (as expected) but then he puts it on and Sam loses sight of him again.
[5:24 PM]
Gollum strikes Sam in the back and flings him aside and Sam blacks out for a short time.
[5:36 PM]
Prevent him from putting it on in the first place, expecting it. Know where he was when he disappeared. And elf and dwarf and other hobbit ears to hear.
[5:36 PM]
And just reach out with long arms.
[5:36 PM]
or many arms

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:36 PM
There's a fun image.

VardaToday at 5:36 PM
heh

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:37 PM
The whole fellowship flailing in the air trying to catch Frodo.

VardaToday at 5:37 PM
The group would have gone in together and tried to have a plan.
[5:37 PM]
They might have carried him in with his consent.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:37 PM
True..

VardaToday at 5:37 PM
He wore the Ring on a chain

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:37 PM
Not a very strong one, apparently,.

VardaToday at 5:37 PM
Maybe tie his hands?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:38 PM
Then someone gets to whip the chain over his head?

VardaToday at 5:38 PM
Aye, never touching the Ring, just the chain.
[5:38 PM]
Preferably not Sam who had also been a Ringbearer.
[5:39 PM]
It might have been hard for Sam to destroy the Ring too. They needed help.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:39 PM
Boromir also perhaps a bad idea.

VardaToday at 5:39 PM
Needed Faramir for better resistance. : )
[5:39 PM]
Aye, Boromir was also a bad idea.
[5:39 PM]
So anyone else but Sam and Boromir!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:40 PM
Pipping's good at throwing things in holes.

VardaToday at 5:40 PM
Another hobbit would probably be best: Merry or Pippin

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:40 PM
*Pippin

VardaToday at 5:40 PM
There you go
[5:40 PM]
That would give Pippin an important role. I like that.
[5:41 PM]
He may have felt he needed to prove himself too, and be the Thain protecting the Shire as well.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:41 PM
See Frodo shouting "Fool of a Took!"

VardaToday at 5:41 PM
hahahaha
[5:41 PM]
Perfect.

Arien  ValarToday at 5:41 PM

[5:42 PM]
bed time for me here i fear

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:42 PM
Namarie

VardaToday at 5:42 PM
Good night!
[5:42 PM]
We just had to try an alternate ending. : )

Arien  ValarToday at 5:42 PM
have fun friends and rest well when the time comes

VardaToday at 5:43 PM
Enough eagles to carry out the whole Fellowship when the protections are gone.
[5:43 PM]
Sleep well!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:43 PM
Sounds about right.

Arien  ValarToday at 5:44 PM
*Frodo stumbles before Nammath saur and  the ring gets flung up in the air every one tries to catch it and dives for it but presto comes Gwaihir catches it in flight and drops it in*
[5:44 PM]
there you go  alternative ending

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:45 PM
He'd have to go to the peak, though, probably can't fit through the door.

Arien  ValarToday at 5:45 PM
Namarie!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:45 PM
namarie!
[5:46 PM]
Time to do the Maw dailies, then I'll start the report

VardaToday at 5:48 PM
Namarie
[5:48 PM]
Gwaihir, the new dark lord.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:48 PM
hehe

VardaToday at 7:03 PM
Just realized never sent out the Bounder message. /facepalm

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:04 PM
whoops

VardaToday at 7:10 PM
Funny how the copy paste seems to grab a lot of the transcript but actually leaves out a big chunk. I suspect I don't always catch that error.
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Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:11 PM
Yeah, it has to do with scrolling I think, not sure.
[7:11 PM]
I always do the same after I'm done, copy it into a text file, and then check for the gaps

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[7:11 PM]
But anyway, personal gaming report!
[7:12 PM]
Well, they said february for the non-flash-badges, but this week was still mostly flash. Luckily I already had 5 of them, because the other 2 are not obtainable in this way without contacting support etc.
[7:13 PM]
But for flashgaming, let's give 3 that at least still work, even if the badges don't
[7:19 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/swartag/mighty-knight is the first one! A fighting/arena/upgrade game where you play through stages with a growing group of champions, getting gold and upgrading all their attributes, using various abilities to beat the bad guys.
    Kongregate
    Mighty Knight
    Thousand years ago before the age of zombies, there live heroes without the power of technology who fights against the Dark Order. En garde!

[7:19 PM]
Try to make it all the way through
[7:25 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/knigg/epic-coaster is the second game! Quite simple one, though. You play a rollercoaster having to jump from track segment to track segment. If you time the jump perfectly to land at the segment, extra points! And also bonuses for other events like getting pictures taken or scaring birds, but those tend to just pop up passively. Just don't fall
    Kongregate
    Epic Coaster
    A fast paced, addicting platformer controlled with only one button. Try to stay alive an epic roller coaster ride by jumping from track to track. Features high...

[7:25 PM]
See how far you get!
[7:29 PM]
Oh, and there's also achievements to get in-game

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:40 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/ArmorGames/defend-your-honor is the last one! A "tower" defense game where you put your different types of adventurers along the path to defeat monsters. Upgrade them with money in the level, but any extra cash will go your overall treasure chest which you can use to buy up to 5 characters of the same type to place in the level.
Kongregate
Defend your Honor!
The king has offered command of his vast army to the Man (or Elf) who returns his missing Golden Statue. It#39s up to you to find it and win this grand prize, an...

[7:41 PM]
Make it all the way through to get the walrus king's different statues
[7:45 PM]

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Blizzard gaming:
Heroes of the Storm:
No new levels, alas. Still 445.
[7:51 PM]
Hearthstone:
Reward track up to 65 now, still getting 50g a piece. It's very slightly slowing down, now, though, since the experience needed per level is going up ever so slightly. Guess diminishing returns are a good way to prevent people from feeling pressured
[7:52 PM]
Got a whole lot of packs from the Epic anniversary collection, as well as some gold to buy more, but haven't spent time opening them yet.
[7:53 PM]
Did get a random legendary card from those as well, though, a legendary totem for shamans which looks quite interesting in a totem deck, if you can keep it alive.
[7:54 PM]
(Oh, for Heroes of the Storm, the collection also gave me the hero Tracer and 3 versions of her bike mount).
[7:54 PM]
Hearthstone brawl is the All-Star Squad: Pick a class, choose one card to get 22 copies of it, along with 8 random class cards.
[7:55 PM]
Did some testing and googling and ended up with a mage deck filled with frost nova, freezing the enemy minions every turn until you just fireblast the opponent to death
[7:56 PM]
As well, with any luck, burning their cards because they end up out of room to place their minions, if they're using minion decks.
[7:57 PM]
WoW:
[7:57 PM]
Another boss down, Shade of Kael'thas, on heroic! 4 to go.
[7:59 PM]
Still no new world quests, so yeah, pretty good chance I've got em all now. Also got all the conduits to 184 ilevel, which means no new upgrades there. Other than callings and four achievements to get, I can ignore most world quests for now.

VardaToday at 8:00 PM
(posted. You're up when you have time.)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:01 PM
Some dungeoning this week as well! Weekly quest was mythic dungeons, which I hadn't done yet in this expansion. So I decided to not only do the last dungeon I hadn't done yet on normal, completing the quest there, but also the first 4 on mythic difficulty. Not too bad, fortunately. And a heroic raid cloak as reward!
[8:03 PM]
Along the way I got a new legendary power as well, the Timeworn Dreambinder, which was the 15 memory/power delivered to the Runecarver, unlocking a short cutscene, making me quite curious to future reveals
[8:04 PM]
Oh, must mention the anniversary rewards of course  New pet, the Moon-Touched Netherwhelp; new mount, Snowstorm, which I mentioned earlier, and some free gametime.
[8:04 PM]
(will post this week, probably make something similarly short)

Eonwë ValarToday at 8:05 PM
Heya all.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:06 PM
Between the mythic dungeons and some flashgames I've been playing longer (among those I've mentioned this week and the last) than I should, perhaps, didn't get too much done in the story, though I did get about three quarters of the next covenant campaign chapter.
[8:07 PM]
Finding Aralon's scouting party, trying to rescue a corrupted friend of his, and in doing so visiting the Thornspeaker in Drustvar as well as his deceased mentor in Ardenweald, who had to be rescued from Drust.
[8:07 PM]
Next week we'll see if the cure works
[8:07 PM]
Other than that, just the 2 renown levels from the weekly covenant quests, putting me at 26.
[8:08 PM]
And that's my report for the week!
[8:08 PM]
For what it's worth, I think this is the longest chapter, so it's not too bad
[8:10 PM]
Also, Aiya Eonwe!

VardaToday at 8:11 PM
Aiya Eonwe : )

Eonwë ValarToday at 8:13 PM
Sorry I missed the meeting. Hope everyone had fun :}

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:14 PM
We had some nice speculation going

VardaToday at 8:14 PM
You still had plenty of input!

Eonwë ValarToday at 8:20 PM
:}
[8:20 PM]
Did my post help give anyone any ideas for their posts?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:21 PM
The beginning of some ideas are brewing, now that we have a new person to interact with.
[8:21 PM]
Or should I say interrogate?

Eonwë ValarToday at 8:21 PM
Hehe.
[8:22 PM]
Well as long as it helped give some ideas :}

VardaToday at 8:23 PM
It was just what we needed.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:25 PM
"Hi, I'm Calion. And I think we've got your horse. You really shouldn't leave those lying about, anyone can take them."

VardaToday at 8:27 PM
hehe

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:30 PM
well, namarie :slight_smile:

Eonwë ValarToday at 8:32 PM
Sleep well Phar :}

VardaToday at 8:33 PM
Namarie!

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