Valar Guild

September 20, 2020 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by
Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular smiley]

Attending (and spoke): (8)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe (Before and After-meeting), Ioreth (After-meeting), Irmo, Pallando (After-meeting), Shelob, Varda (presiding)

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
    General reports: World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2, Overwatch, Eve Online, Lord of the Rings Online.
Tolkien:
    Forum RP story
    Topic: Interactions between the Valar.
After-meeting:
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
    Quote about Ungoliant from the Silmarillion.
    Get-together for LotRO: Osgiliath questing.
    Ioreth with discussions about LotRO on dual monitors; info on LotRO subs and expansions etc.
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Before-meeting

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Speaking of WoW accomplishments:
[3:51 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyd1j3mRsw4
    YouTube
    DisneySingItVideos
    You Can Fly (from Peter Pan)

[3:52 PM]
Also Aiya!

Shelob09/20/2020
Aiya Phar!

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Aiya Lobsy!

Varda09/20/2020
fly you guys : )

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
I can fly \o/

Shelob09/20/2020
sees Phar hit the ceiling of his cave and laughs out loud

Varda09/20/2020
thrown by a troll, aghhhh. Maybe not that way.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
escapes through the ventilation system

Irmo09/20/2020
Good evening all!

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Aiya!

Shelob09/20/2020
checks out the webs at the end of the ventilation system for some juicy flies. Finds Phar. Salivates

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
hugs Shelob Think happy thoughts!

Shelob09/20/2020
You think that one who can spin living darkness and wants to consume the world has happy thoughts?

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
You just gotta believe.

Shelob09/20/2020
I am. Which is why I'll get older than Sauron.

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Varda09/20/2020
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:05 PM]
@Bounder Huzzah! Meeting time! Come say hi. : )

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
Aiya all

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Aiya!

Membership:

Varda09/20/2020
Aiya Phar, Arien, and Shelob : )
[4:06 PM]
Irmo is here too, just now in an instance with Fangorn and myself, quite a lively thing.
[4:06 PM]
Any other membership news?
[4:07 PM]

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Web:
[4:07 PM]
Nothing new...yet.

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Gaming:
[4:07 PM]
Eonwe said he might not be able to make it tonight so
[4:07 PM]
feel free to add in your news as I put it up.
[4:08 PM]

World of Warcraft:
[4:08 PM]
This week's bonus event: Battle for Azeroth Dungeons.
[4:09 PM]
Brewfest has begun and runs through October 6th.
[4:09 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23151441/brewfest-kegs-are-tapped-and-festivities-are-in-full-swing-september-20-october-6
    World of Warcraft
    Brewfest Kegs Are Tapped and Festivities are in Full Swing! Septemb...
    Get ready to crack open a cold one with friends new and old during Brewfest!

[4:09 PM]
A new Afterlives cinematic is out: Afterlives: Revendreth.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
It has? Oh, I need to see what's new for Brewfest.

Varda09/20/2020
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23507728/watch-shadowlands-afterlives-revendreth
    World of Warcraft
    Watch Shadowlands Afterlives: Revendreth - WoW
    Join the citizenry of Revendreth for a special message from Sire Denathrius in our latest animated short— Afterlives: Revendreth

[4:10 PM]
If you're interested in the Wow Companion App, check out this blog.
[4:10 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23523204/engineers-workshop-designing-the-wow-companion-app
    World of Warcraft
    Engineer’s Workshop: Designing the WoW Companion App - WoW
    In our latest Engineer’s Workshop, we take a closer look at the development of the WoW Companion App and adding support for multiple expansions.

[4:10 PM]
Check out this week's hotfixes.
[4:10 PM]
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23277654/hotfixes-september-15-2020
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: September 15, 2020 - WoW
    Here you'll find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth and WoW Classic.

[4:11 PM]

Starcraft 2:

Check out the 2020 Season 3 map preview.
[4:11 PM]
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/starcraft2/23513938/2020-season-3-map-preview
    2020 Season 3 Map Preview
    2020 Ladder Season 3 brings new 1v1 and Team maps to ladder!

[4:11 PM]

Overwatch:
[4:11 PM]
A new blog is out: Comic Book Tracer: Cheers, Love! The Artist's Here!.
[4:11 PM]
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23524010/comic-book-tracer-cheers-love-the-artist-s-here/
    Overwatch
    Comic Book Tracer: Cheers, love! The artist’s here
    We spoke with character art director Arnold Tsang about the creative process behind the latest Overwatch challenge skin, his love for comics, and what Tracer means to him.

[4:12 PM]

Eve Online:
[4:12 PM]
GM Week: Sept 14 - 19 is GM week with lots of interaction between game masters and players. List of events included in the article with their specific times.
[4:12 PM]
https://www.eveonline.com/article/qghy31/gm-week-is-coming
    EVE Online
    GM Week is coming! | EVE Online
    Competitions, prizes, and events from 14 - 18 September

[4:12 PM]
Coming and done.
[4:12 PM]
Hope Pallando will have some comments for us on it sometime. : )
[4:13 PM]

International Talk Like a Pirate Day. Yes, it infiltrates our game worlds, maties.
[4:13 PM]
That was the 19th, but still affecting our games!

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
I can add to WoW that the vote for a new unique mount idea is over, and the big tree won, should be interesting

Varda09/20/2020
Fangorn should be delighted!

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Does he play?

Varda09/20/2020
He made a face.
[4:14 PM]
No, he's a big tree.
[4:14 PM]
He can escape.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Yes, but still, gotta play to get it
[4:14 PM]
It'll be free for Shadowlands players, I think.

Varda09/20/2020

Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:15 PM]
Very pleased to say that Irmo now has his warden, Yrmo, maxed at level 130!

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Grats!

Shelob09/20/2020
I spotted the following people in LotRO this week:
Varda, Irmo, Nar, Lenwe (briefly), Fangorn (briefly before meeting). Arien dropped in somewhere as well, I think.

Varda09/20/2020
Huzzah! It let us game together in nasty instances. : )

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
Grats

Varda09/20/2020
Good to get to see each other!

Irmo09/20/2020
<smiles radiantly> 3rd lvl 130 after Varda and Fangorn

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
I did yes when was it .. Monday night ?

Varda09/20/2020
After a long hiatus, he came up fast!

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
or Tuesday .. one of them anyway

Varda09/20/2020
Anyway, we're delighted to have another 130 to play with. : )

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
We're gonna be so far behind.. in a week or two we'll drop from 120 to 50

Varda09/20/2020
oops : )
[4:17 PM]
LotRO Beacon Issue # 176 is out.
[4:17 PM]
It gives a pile of news but I'll mention just one
[4:18 PM]
On the Bullroarer test server, they will soon be testing Update 28 "The War of Three Peaks".
[4:18 PM]
https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/lotro-beacon-issue-176
    The Lord of the Rings Online
    The LOTRO Beacon: Issue 176
[4:19 PM]

Check around the bridge near Lenglinn for treasure questing. : )
[4:19 PM]
Landroval server:
Arien
Bregalad
Eonwe
Fangorn
Hurin
Irmo
Lenwe
Nar
Shelob
Varda

Ithil server:
Arien
Dis
Eonwe
Varda

Anor server:
Arien
Varda
[4:19 PM]
These are the folks seen online this week in LotRO, across our three branches.
[4:19 PM]
Note, Eonwe has joined us in Ithil!
[4:19 PM]
He doesn't plan to play there much, but he brought his presence. : )
[4:20 PM]
Any other gaming news? Valarites you've seen?

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Well, Fladrif shows as having been on bnet this week

Varda09/20/2020
Starcraft 2: Fangorn, Eowyn, and Faramir.
[4:20 PM]
O good! Hi to the ent.

Shelob09/20/2020
Doing pretty well on the LotRO front. Got to level 30 and completed epic 1 book 2 this week.

Varda09/20/2020
Eve: Pallando, Sauron, possibly Shelob?

Shelob09/20/2020
On my new Rune Keeper that is.

Varda09/20/2020
Very good, Shelob!

Shelob09/20/2020
Sorry, too busy with LotRO to play EVE.

Varda09/20/2020
It's hard to play more than one MMO and do them both well.

Shelob09/20/2020
Well, that and school

Varda09/20/2020
Right, and all other real life.  Work etc. Leaves us only a certain amount of game time.
[4:23 PM]
Any other news? Don't want anyone left out.
[4:24 PM]
On to
[4:24 PM]

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Tolkien!

There has been some posting on the forum story, for those who haven't seen it lately.
[4:25 PM]
We're slow, but we keep working on it.
[4:26 PM]
Anyone present for Tolkien, please type Manwe.
[4:26 PM]
Manwe

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Manwe

Irmo09/20/2020
Off to sleep I go, Namarië all

Varda09/20/2020
Sleep well, Lord of Dreams!
[4:27 PM]
Wonder what a lord of dreams dreams of.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Namarie!
[4:27 PM]
Probably something fractal.

Irmo09/20/2020
Not going to tell anyway

Varda09/20/2020
Leave them guessing, Irmo! : )
[4:29 PM]
The various Valar had all sorts of interactions. They didn't just solo.
[4:29 PM]
They sang and played instruments together in the song of creation, and later worked together (or against) to bring that imagining into reality.
[4:30 PM]
The Valar worked with each other, and with Maiar.
[4:30 PM]
They had to have massive numbers of stories that we will never know, of great importance to the world.
[4:31 PM]
The stuff we make our folklore from. Where did this come from? Is this a giant footprint filled with water to make this lake?
[4:31 PM]
Can we think of some of those interactions?

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Yeah, strange how those giants only tend to leave one footprint with none other to be found.
[4:31 PM]
Are they using a giant pogostick?

Varda09/20/2020
That explains a string of ponds?

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Of various sizes, sure.
[4:32 PM]
First interaction that comes to mind is Manwe and Ulmo creating rain

Varda09/20/2020
My thought as well.  : )
[4:33 PM]
And to everyone's surprise, Melkor's cold plus rain made beautiful snow and ice.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Oh yes, beautiful ice, as many of the Noldor can attest to

Varda09/20/2020
Some pretty things are best left on the shelf.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Just sometimes a bit too slippery?

Varda09/20/2020
Yavanna made great trees that dripped pools of light.
[4:34 PM]
Aule made sparks from his hammer and anvil.

Shelob09/20/2020
Like Elves, Varda?

Varda09/20/2020
Varda took from those and made stars.
[4:35 PM]
Elf on the shelf, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Is that what your pantry looks like, Shelob?

Varda09/20/2020
Orcs in the webbing?

Shelob09/20/2020
Mostly Orcs aye.

Varda09/20/2020
Pairs of Valar worked together so closely that they were married couples.

Shelob09/20/2020
Some other tasty morsels, courtesy of Gollum.

Varda09/20/2020
Namo in the Halls with Vaire the Weaver.

Shelob09/20/2020
Varda and Manwe chief among those.

Varda09/20/2020
Something like the Norns - weaving fate, snipping threads.

Shelob09/20/2020
Aule and Yavanna, even though it often grieved Yavanna that Aule provided the children of Iluvatar with the tools to use and bend all things natural to their will.

Varda09/20/2020
Together, Manwe and Varda had greater range of sight and hearing.
[4:39 PM]
True. And that caused her to make yet more great things, like the guardian ents.
[4:39 PM]
And Children of Iluvatar that took care of the things of nature.
[4:40 PM]
And some that taught various trees to speak.

Shelob09/20/2020
Aye, there were some interesting interactions between Aule and Yavanna.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Eh, typical marital quibbles.

Shelob09/20/2020
Osse and Uinen come to mind as well.

Varda09/20/2020
Tulkas the laughing wrestler with Nessa the dancer.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
I was thinking of Osse and Uinen, but wasn't sure if they were siblings in that phase of the story.

Varda09/20/2020
Married couple, aye.
[4:45 PM]
It can get complicated. Namo and Irmo are brothers, together called the Feanturi, the masters of spirits.
[4:46 PM]
Sometimes we hear of sleep being called the little death.
[4:46 PM]
Their sister is Nienna.
[4:47 PM]
She teaches pity and may well be the source of hope.
[4:47 PM]
Gandalf in the books would refer to Pity with a capital P.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Conversely, death being the big sleep.

Varda09/20/2020
Right : )

Shelob09/20/2020
Nah, just a temporary stopover at Mandos.

Varda09/20/2020
Nienna brings wisdom and strength to those that are inside the halls of Mandos, when she visits.
[4:49 PM]
Vana is the wife of Orome.

Shelob09/20/2020
Were Arien and Tilion related in any way?

Varda09/20/2020
Orome is the hunter, while creatures love Nienna and flowers spring up around her.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Wasn't Vana or Orome also a sibling to someone else?

Shelob09/20/2020
Vana was related to Yavanna, right?

Varda09/20/2020
For the Arien and Tilion story, I'll refer you to this that takes you next to Tilion:
[4:52 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/articles/a/Arien/Arien.htm
    Arien
    Article on Arien

[4:54 PM]
Vana, before it was decided that the Ainur did not have children, was the daughter of Yavanna.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Aule's stepdaughter?

Varda09/20/2020
I would assume his daughter, but that needs checked.
[4:56 PM]
Irmo's wife is Este, don't think we mentioned her yet.
[4:58 PM]
Fittingly, her name means "Rest".

Shelob09/20/2020
Namarié everyone. Time for bed!

Varda09/20/2020
So the dreaming and resting go together.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Namarie!

Varda09/20/2020
Namarie, Shelob!

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
To rest, perhaps to dream.
[4:59 PM]
*perchance

Varda09/20/2020
: )
[4:59 PM]
Shakespeare. : )
[5:00 PM]
We have arrived at the hour.
[5:00 PM]
the gavel dances with the hammerpad and they make Knock knock jokes
[5:00 PM]

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After-meeting!
[5:01 PM]
makes a mad dash for the kitchen

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Enjoy..?

Varda09/20/2020
Thank you!
[5:02 PM]
sparkles happily

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
oh did you see my request for help by the Way?

Pallando-Valar09/20/2020
..Aiya!

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
in Lotro i need some back up for the catacombs under osgiliath to kill the head of the remaining enemy forces .. they are non elites he is a signature but they are quite dense and the hunter is still under 105

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Aiya!

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
so if you have an alt around that level would be sufficient :)P
[5:12 PM]
aiya Pallando

Varda09/20/2020
Aiya - back. Hi Pallando and Arien.
[5:24 PM]
I saw. But isn't it bed time? : )
[5:25 PM]
Not sure what part of Osgiliath you needed help with? Underground?
[5:25 PM]
ah, yes, ok.
[5:25 PM]
Do you want to run now?
[5:25 PM]
I can join you.

Ioreth09/20/2020
I really need to buy the expansion so that I can level

Varda09/20/2020
That would be lovely. : )  Aiya Ioreth

Arien  Valar09/20/2020
When would be a good time then ? it is a bit late but i dont think it would take too long

Varda09/20/2020
If I take my hunter, it should not be bad. Still re-tooling her stuff, but she can still rock along.
[5:32 PM]
I just went back into LotRO

Ioreth09/20/2020
Anyone run lotro on dual monitors - more specifically ones that are different sizes (laptop with larger external monitor)

Varda09/20/2020
I do, but it's a TV instead of monitor

Ioreth09/20/2020
it thinks that it should be the same resolution as my laptop monitor. I suppose this means I have to make my external monitor my "main" monitor

Varda09/20/2020
Mine shows 1 and 2
[6:04 PM]
Select one to change it's settings
[6:05 PM]
Then on mine scroll down for resolution

Ioreth09/20/2020
my laptop is 1920x something my external is like 3300x something if I play on the external I need a magnifying glass as it won't do any wider than 1920

Varda09/20/2020
eww the squintiness

Ioreth09/20/2020
I suppose I need to buy all these expansions or if I just do monthly does it include the matterial?

Varda09/20/2020
Expansions are a buy
[6:14 PM]
Sub gets everything in them

Ioreth09/20/2020
Looks like I'm three behind.
[6:14 PM]
so if I'm sub I'm good?

Varda09/20/2020
sub helps a lot
[6:21 PM]
ah, saw you going off. Sorry to have missed you.
[6:21 PM]
Promoted you so you can go to the kin house at will

Ioreth09/20/2020
working on the monitor thing. it is so uncomfortable in tiny mode

Varda09/20/2020
Aiya Eonwe. : )

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
Sub does not get you the expansions, if that's what you mean.
[6:21 PM]
And heya all.

Varda09/20/2020
Sub is not the same as expansions, which are big additional areas.

Ioreth09/20/2020
is there a particular one I should start with?

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
Are they offering you all of them at once?
[6:23 PM]
If memory serves, sub gets you access to the zones and maybe the ability to level, but not to the quests, instances, etc.
[6:24 PM]
It's been a while, so I'm not 100% on that though.

Varda09/20/2020
A sub gets all that is inside that expansion that you have

Ioreth09/20/2020
no, they are like 2500 coin each, so it would be at least 7500 coin to get caught up

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
I mean, do you see them each in your list, or is it just showing you one expansion?

Ioreth09/20/2020
I looked on the store

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
Aye, the one inside the game, since you said points, correct?

Ioreth09/20/2020
was three expansions, I think one quest set, and a couple other less expensive things

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
Does it show you all three expansions in the list to purchase, or just one of the three you're behind?
[6:28 PM]
Ok.

Varda09/20/2020
Does not show it if you have it

Ioreth09/20/2020
I could buy all three, wasn't sure what order they come in. I think Mordor remake is most recent

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
Minas Ithil is the most recent.

Ioreth09/20/2020
No use getting that one until doing the one that I left off at

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
Aye.
[6:32 PM]
I don't think I've ever been more than a single expansion behind, so I wasn't sure if it showed all the ones you're missing at once, or just one at a time, with the next one you need being the one shown.

Ioreth09/20/2020
I'm behind 3, just been puttering around on my level 95 hunter - and dying quite often

Eonwë Valar09/20/2020
I know how that is, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Right, after playing 2 hours of this flashgame... time to do the gaming report

Varda09/20/2020
I'll mention that Arien and I creamed that instance together.

Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Yay!

Varda09/20/2020
in Osgiliath.

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Ar-Pharazon-V09/20/2020
Flashgaming: 3 games this week, 1 new badge
[8:54 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Titch/level-up is the first game! A sort of sandboxy game which is all about leveling up, exploring, acquiring abilities and doing as much as possible within the space of a day; on subsequent days experience is reset but more easily gained, and eventually you'll explore your way to the end of the game
    Kongregate
    Level Up!
    Sandbox Platform RPG ComedyRun, jump, collect gems and talk to zany NPC#39s to level up!

[8:55 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/TogeProductions/relic-of-war is the second game, and the one I just started to figure out how it worked again... and ended up playing for several hours.
    Kongregate
    Relic Of War
    The year is 1947 and The Great War never ended. A powerful ancient relic has been uncovered! Now, twisted experiments and giant war machines walk the battlefie...
[8:56 PM]
Based on games like Infectonator and Necronator from the same creator, it's a strategy game where you keep spawning troops and heroes with generated gold to conquer all the buildings in each map.
[8:57 PM]
You can upgrade troops, heroes, support attacks, and your economy by medals you get from completing objectives.
[8:57 PM]
And the troops get experience too, up to level 3.
[8:58 PM]
The story in this one is more complex than in the other games, about a hypothetical extension of the second world war as a relic of great power is found by the Germans, allowing them to start their offensive once again.

[8:59 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/DJStatika/warlords-heroes is the third game, a fantasy fighting game where you fight your way through levels against various enemies of random types, you can spend reward money from each area you travel through to buy upgrades and fighting moves.
    Kongregate
    Warlords: Heroes
    Fight your way through 4 episodes of fantasy battle. Buying fighting moves, amour and hiring henchman to assist you on your journey.
    Features:
    - A game based...
[9:00 PM]
Can be a bit complex, and the survival and gladiator modes are quite luck based.. took me many attempts to get the badge for 25 kills in a single survival run.
[9:00 PM]
But the campaign's pretty good

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[9:01 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
Level 428 now, after getting Stitches to level 5. It's quite relaxed without the pressure of brawls every week
[9:03 PM]
Hearthstone:
No new levels there, but the brawl's pretty fun, with random cards which change their prices randomly every turn.
[9:04 PM]
Did pretty well with the Demon Hunter, opening up with some high cost cards and playing them as soon as they were manageable
[9:04 PM]
WoW:
We got Mythic Jaina down! Mythic mount for 2 people, unfortunately not me
[9:05 PM]
Turns out that if you outgear the fight, and get phase 1 under control, you can skip the rest of the fight by extending the intermission infinitely, killing her while she's blizzarding people, as long as you have the aoe to free everyone as they get frozen again and again.
[9:06 PM]
So we'll use that to hopefully get 2 more shots at the mount
[9:06 PM]
Corruption resistance was indeed capped, so no need for visions anymore.
[9:10 PM]
Weekly quest is 4 mythic dungeons, easily done... ended up doing Motherlode without a healer, which went well enough
[9:11 PM]
And I completed the Mechagon questline to unlock the world quests and dailies, and launched straight into it!
[9:11 PM]
It started by getting a pet from a rare, Bonebiter, yay
[9:12 PM]
And I got the blueprint to make a Mechanocat mount, which required a lot of crates of spare parts, but luckily I had them.
[9:12 PM]
So new mount also!
[9:13 PM]
And finally I got Mechagon to revered, unlocking Pathfinder, getting flight unlocked, giving me a free mechanical parrot mount called Wonderwing, and allowing me to buy 3 gryphons from Kul Tiras factions
[9:14 PM]
That's my pre-patch goals complete, now I'll use my flight to continue to do dailies and world quests in Mechagon (and a few in Nazjatar) to get to exalted and unlock the mechagnome race
[9:14 PM]
As well as maybe doing some more questing campaigns if I have time, such as Nazjatar and the War Campaign conclusion.
[9:15 PM]
And with that all done, bring on Shadowlands
[9:15 PM]
that's my report for the week!
[9:19 PM]
namarie!

Varda09/20/2020
Namarie
September 22, 2020

Eonwë ValarToday at 5:40 AM
RE: Phar's quoting the Sil about Ungoliant a couple of weeks ago, which if I did it right, can be found here: https://discordapp.com/channels/98166064545804288/98425690877104128/754816266476453912
[5:44 AM]
"...and fleeing from the north she went down into Beleriand, and dwelt beneath Ered Gorgoroth, in that dark valley that was after called Nan Dungortheb, the Valley of Dreadful Death, because of the horror that she bred there. For other foul creatures of spider form had dwelt there since the days of the delving of Angband, and she mated with them, and devoured them; and even after Ungoliant her self departed, and went whither she would into the forgotten south of the world, her offspring abode there and wove their hideous webs..." -- "Of the Flight of the Noldor"
[5:49 AM]
Quoted in part by Varda at the time, but there's the full quote, so whichever reading of "passed away" one wants to read of Phar's quote, they were there when she left, and she did leave before her own death.
[5:52 AM]
Was reading that area of the Sil for reasons, so thought I'd throw it in here.

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