Valar Guild

June 21, 2020 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time

Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular smiley]

Attending (and spoke): (5)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Lenwe, Varda (presiding)

Before-meeting
    Ping is @Bounder Meeting time!
Meeting begins
Membership news:
    Father's Day
Web:
    One story this week:
        "The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil" by Dunadan
Gaming:
    General reports: Lord of the Rings Online (including a report on the Tournament of the Twins), World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2, Heroes of the Storm, Hearthstone. More WoW chat.
Tolkien:
    Topic 1: Ian Holm
    Topic 2: Thuringwethil
    Topic 3: Fathers in Tolkien's works.
After-meeting:
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting

Eonwe ValarYesterday at 10:27 AM
Well, I can solo Tomb of Sargaras 10-man on Normal. Time to try Heroic and see if I can start farming for my green Lightbringer set, hehe.
June 21, 2020

Eonwe ValarToday at 3:34 AM
So I cleared Heroic 10-man Tomb of Sargeras and picked up 2 appearances for my Green Lightbringer, so I got ambitious and tried Mythic Tomb of Sargeras, and.... not quite enough DPS and/or HP to kill fast enough/survive the first fight, heh.(edited)
[3:35 AM]
But I got shoulders and helm appearances for my Green Lightbringer, so the two most visually evident pieces. lucky me :}

Eonwe ValarToday at 6:07 AM
Well, tried Mythic Nighthold. Got through Trilliax, and I might've been able to take the next boss if I weren't trying for the achievement, but decided after one death on her and one on Krosus that was enough fun, hehe.
[6:09 AM]
Too bad Mythic keystones are only for the current dungeons. Would be interesting to see how high in keystones I could get solo in a Legion dungeon before I got stuck, hehe.

VardaToday at 3:56 PM
brb
[4:00 PM]
Aiya
[4:02 PM]
/bounder Meeting time!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:04 PM
Aiya!

VardaToday at 4:04 PM
Aiya Phar : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:05 PM
Was not online in time for the ping, I'm afraid

VardaToday at 4:05 PM
And yet you're still the first one after me. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:05 PM
haha
[4:06 PM]
Arien poked
[4:06 PM]
Just because I can.

VardaToday at 4:06 PM
: )
[4:06 PM]
I hope that ping was written correctly, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:07 PM
Well I'm not seeing the yellow line around it I normally get for your pings, but that might be because I wasn't online?

ArienValarToday at 4:07 PM
aiya all

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:07 PM
Aiya

VardaToday at 4:07 PM
Aiya Arien! Just who we needed to ask. Did you see a ping?

ArienValarToday at 4:08 PM
i didnt see a ping but a poke ^^

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:09 PM
Guess I was needed after all

VardaToday at 4:09 PM
oboy. So it did not go out.

ArienValarToday at 4:11 PM
i didnt see it no

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:11 PM
Try, try again?

VardaToday at 4:13 PM
/bounder Meeting time!
[4:14 PM]
/Bounder Meeting time!
[4:14 PM]
Nothing?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:14 PM
Both appear as normal chat.
[4:14 PM]
You had @Bounder last time

VardaToday at 4:15 PM
oh of course! Thanks. : )
[4:15 PM]
@Bounder Meeting time!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:15 PM
There

VardaToday at 4:15 PM
Huzzah! Thank you thank you!
[4:16 PM]
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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:16 PM]
Membership:
[4:16 PM]
Thanks to help from Arien and Ar-Pharazon, we got the working ping out. : )
[4:16 PM]
Today in the USA is Father's Day.
[4:17 PM]
Happy Father's Day to all the dads in the guild and dads of guild members. : )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:17 PM
When I think of fathers and US it's usually the Founding Fathers.

VardaToday at 4:17 PM
Another type of father, aye.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:17 PM
But I'm sure you've got normal fathers too

VardaToday at 4:17 PM
May-be

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:18 PM
Heya.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:19 PM
Aíya!

VardaToday at 4:19 PM
Aiya Eonwe. : )
[4:19 PM]
Happy Father's Day. Glad you could come by!
[4:20 PM]
Eonwe also put up a Father's Day message on the Games Site. Thanks!
[4:20 PM]
Here's hoping all of you are having a good day. : )
[4:20 PM]
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Web:
[4:21 PM]
You get the news here first!
[4:21 PM]
We have a new story up, not quite all linked in, so it could be a sneak preview:
[4:21 PM]
"The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil" by Dunadan.
[4:22 PM]
Dunadan started thinking about what might have happened to Thuringwethil if her bat-fell were taken, how she might have survived.
[4:22 PM]
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authors/Dunadan/TheBat-FellofThuringwethil.htm
[4:23 PM]
He gives Author's Notes that you can read on his Author's page. : )
[4:23 PM]
Eonwe, did you have any web news?
[4:24 PM]
Thundering here, so you'll know why if I abruptly disappear.
[4:25 PM]
And he gave me some coding advice, thanks! That should help.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:26 PM
Against the thunder?

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:26 PM
Not at the moment.

ArienValarToday at 4:26 PM
nothing no

VardaToday at 4:28 PM
That would be a trick!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:29 PM
Like those hackers in movies who just type a few things on the keyboard and suddenly all the systems are fixed and fireproof.

VardaToday at 4:29 PM
Got to love Hollywood, heh.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:30 PM
What? That's how all us programmers do it. Hit a couple of keys and save the world... :}

VardaToday at 4:30 PM
Of course! : )
[4:30 PM]
On to:
[4:30 PM]
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Gaming!
[4:30 PM]
(Want to play a game? How about a nice game of chess?)

LenweToday at 4:31 PM
Thermonuclear warfare is more my thing, thanks

VardaToday at 4:31 PM
lol
[4:31 PM]
Varda has gone fission.

LenweToday at 4:31 PM
Hehe

VardaToday at 4:31 PM
Aiya Lenwe. : )

LenweToday at 4:31 PM
Aiya

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:31 PM
Less boring than fishing?

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:31 PM
Someone's watched 80s movies, hehe :} Maybe even in the 80s? :}

LenweToday at 4:32 PM
I assumed Varda was referencing the 1980s movie War Games

VardaToday at 4:32 PM
Catch a sting-ray off your boat and have it pull you, then tell me fishing is boring. ; )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:32 PM
I think I saw it once. Years ago.

VardaToday at 4:32 PM
Lenwe was entirely correct. Old movie that I saw when it came out. ; )

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:32 PM
Anyway, here we go with gaming:

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:32 PM
But yesterday I watched Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom and there was a computer guy who had no trouble typing things and taking over systems and fixing electric doors.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:33 PM

Lord of the Rings Online:

VardaToday at 4:33 PM
(and saw in re-runs because I like it)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:33 PM
And I'm like.. surely hackers these days would use the mouse more?

VardaToday at 4:33 PM
(Try James Bond hacker too. "Invincible" guy)

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:33 PM
Update 26.2.2 came out this week. --https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?680860-Update-26-2-2-Release-Notes

VardaToday at 4:33 PM
Oops, pardon Eonwe.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:33 PM
No worries :}
[4:33 PM]
The Bombadil server is up and running the Tournament of the Twins as described in the Update notes linked above.

VardaToday at 4:33 PM
I tried the Bombadil server.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:33 PM
Care to share on that? ;}

VardaToday at 4:34 PM
Set up a Valar channel. ; ) I'm still Fainan.
[4:34 PM]
Make your new character on the Bombadil server, start it through the intro as usual to get some levels, not a time to skip it!
[4:35 PM]
Bree and Gondomon are safe zones, but expect to get killed anywhere else now and then. Many are polite about it but some not so much, heh.
[4:36 PM]
The idea is to level up just enough (10 ) to talk to meet with Elladan and Elrohir.
[4:36 PM]
They say we're getting soft after Sauron was defeated and need practice fighting. We are only defeated, not killed.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:37 PM
after.. is this bit post-War of the Ring?

VardaToday at 4:37 PM
So we have to choose to go either with Elladan's red team or Elrohir's blue team. You only fight the opposite team.
[4:37 PM]
Yes. A lot of LotRO is post War of the Ring.
[4:37 PM]
And no we're not getting soft!
[4:38 PM]
The bad guys that were left are trying to fill the power vacuum left behind by Sauron. Work together, stab in the back, try to take it all, depending.
[4:38 PM]
Then there's the yard trash, not always organized.
[4:38 PM]
Lots and lots going on.
[4:39 PM]
Anyway, when I went in, the World chat constantly dissed Elladan and one even claimed Elrohir was the older brother, which I had to disagree with.
[4:39 PM]
And of course the older brother should be the leader. Soooo, I'm red team Elladan. : )
[4:40 PM]
Some kins make a group so you can have an alt for each side.
[4:40 PM]
Most go with just one, because there's not a lot of time, this being a temporary server.
[4:41 PM]
The idea is not so much pvp. The leaderboard is for those who complete the most deeds.
[4:41 PM]
Those slayer and whatnot deeds done in Eriador are the ones that currently work for the leaderboard.
[4:41 PM]
I have not played all that much, but did some. : )
[4:42 PM]
One tactic is that people will lure away all the things you're supposed to slay and kill them in a batch to prevent the other team from deeding them.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:42 PM
Bah on the older brother. Team Player 2 here :}

VardaToday at 4:42 PM
haha
[4:42 PM]
Did you try Bombadil? : )

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:42 PM
So if I were in it and we deciding based on that, I'd go with the younger brother :}

VardaToday at 4:43 PM
There you go! Now you have to go try it. ; )
[4:43 PM]
Anyway, you can check how to go about it in the release notes. We have them up on the News.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:44 PM
Thanks Varda :}(edited)
[4:44 PM]

World of Warcraft:
[4:44 PM]
The Midsummer Fire Festival begins today and runs through Sunday, July 5th.
[4:45 PM]
Looking for more mounts and stuff to hunt down? Well check out this blog for anything you might've missed in the Warlords of Draenor expansion. -- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23442725/warlords-of-draenor-mounts-pets-and-more
    World of Warcraft
    Warlords of Draenor: Mounts, Pets, and More - WoW
    As a part of our ongoing series of articles featuring many of the collectible’s in World of Warcraft, we’ve set our sights on Warlords of Draenor. The many riches of this expansion are just waiting for you to claim them.
[4:45 PM]
Blizzard wants you to know about the five consecutive weeks of Timewalking Dungeon events coming. Check out the order in this blog. -- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23442724/weekly-timewalking-holidays-incoming
    World of Warcraft
    Weekly Timewalking Holidays Incoming! - WoW
    Beginning June 23, players will be able to experience five consecutive weeks of Timewalking and earn 50% bonus reputation during each Timewalking event.
[4:45 PM]
Want to know when you can buy that level 3 corruption you've been waiting for? Check this blog to see when MOTHER will be selling it. -- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23453347/preserved-contaminants-and-legendary-cloak-updates
    World of Warcraft
    Preserved Contaminants and Legendary Cloak Updates - WoW
    Get more Corruption effects and improve Ashjra’kamas.
[4:45 PM]
And finally, check out this week's hotfixes. -- https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23277654/hotfixes-june-19-2020
    World of Warcraft
    Hotfixes: June 19, 2020 - WoW
    Here you'll find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth and WoW Classic.

[4:46 PM]

Starcraft 2:
[4:46 PM]
Patch 4.12.1 came out this week. -- https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23442722
    StarCraft II
    StarCraft II Official Game Site
    Wage war across the galaxy with three unique and powerful races. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac.

[4:46 PM]

Heroes of the Storm:
[4:46 PM]
A new patch is on the PTR. -- https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/23442720/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-june-15-2020
    Heroes of the Storm PTR Patch Notes - June 15, 2020
    Our next Heroes of the Storm patch has just hit the Public Test Realm and will be available for playtesting until June 22.

[4:46 PM]

Hearthstone:
[4:46 PM]
Patch 17.4.1 is out. -- https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23442723/17-4-1-patch-notes
    17.4.1 Patch Notes
    The 17.4.1 patch brings Battlegrounds balance updates, few bug fixes, and a change for Twin Slice.

[4:47 PM]
And that's all the gaming news I'm privy to.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:47 PM
Eek midsummer, will have to check for new stuff. [Note: WoW gaming]

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:48 PM
As will I. Need to see if there's something I want.
[4:49 PM]
Or something I don't have yet, at least, heh.
[4:49 PM]
Debating on if I'll try a 4-mask in Orgrimmar before the reset.
[4:49 PM]
With Stormwind, I get through and I feel like it's because I've made progress. When I get through Orgrimmar it feels like it's because I got lucky, heh.(edited)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:50 PM
Them bugs in Rexxar's place keep killing me.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:51 PM
Yeah, those would be the big one, but even in some other places it just feels like there's so many unavoidable sanity hits.
[4:51 PM]
The guy in the.. Valley of Spirits I think it's called, that tosses you. No way to avoid that.(edited)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:51 PM
Oh, right.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:51 PM
Not a big hit, but character control loss makes it stick out more than some of the ones you have to just eat in Stormwind.
[4:53 PM]
But Rexxar is definitely the biggest pain, probably because of how he's in that small room.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:53 PM
True. And if you get a bad affix at the time, you get the followup smash as well.
[4:53 PM]
I'm not even getting to Rexxar these past few weeks. Just the bugs in front of him.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:53 PM
Indeed, and this week's affixes weren't that great imo.
[4:56 PM]
At least not in the Rexxar area.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:56 PM
Yep.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:56 PM
The two higher areas.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:56 PM
Dunno, the bug + fire combo didn't feel very nice either.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:57 PM
I was taking more sanity hits than I normally would when I tried 3-masking it. I made it through and it wasn't technically worse off than Stormwind, but again, it always feels like it's more lucked-based to me in Orgrimmar, whereas Stormwind I feel like it's more I played well. Strange, that.
[4:57 PM]
True.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:58 PM
Might be the mobs that do that.

Eonwe ValarToday at 4:58 PM
Maybe.
[4:59 PM]
And you can look in Pre-Meeting for my exploits beyond Horrific Visions for those interested :}

VardaToday at 4:59 PM
: )

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:59 PM
ah yes, Tomb
[5:00 PM]
Not had much time for old content like that.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:01 PM
I also went through ICC, Ulduar, and ToC as well.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:01 PM
Nice! Pets, mounts?

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:01 PM
5 pieces away from the Val'Anyr fragment total.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:02 PM
Ah

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:02 PM
No pets, no mounts, maybe a couple of transmogs in Ulduar, but nothing big.
[5:02 PM]
Still missing a couple of pieces of my T10 appearance from ICC but no luck on getting those.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:02 PM
aw
[5:03 PM]
Week by week and eventually they'll come.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:03 PM
I'm thinking I might finally make a hunter I spend some time on when the new Void Elf customization comes in with Shadowlands, Simply because I haven't made one I've spent any time on yet and I figure it's about time.(edited)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:04 PM
The light skin?

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:04 PM
Speaking of which, there's still plenty of class/race combos we need guild credit for, guys :} Feel free to message me and get some Valar Guild alts going so we get the Classy Achievements and the 8th guild tab :}
[5:05 PM]
Yeah.
[5:05 PM]
Not that it makes a difference in gameplay I guess, just I figure then is as good a time as any because I'm more interested in my Paladin main, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:05 PM
ah

VardaToday at 5:05 PM
: )

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:06 PM
If they'd given High Elves as an allied race, and given them Paladins, I might've had a tougher time, lol.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:06 PM
Yeah, I know some other people who'd feel the same
[5:07 PM]
Though it's mostly night elf paladins they want.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:07 PM
Night Elf Paladins would be cool, after what they did in Legion.
[5:07 PM]
I eventually need to make a Light-forged Draenei, Dark Iron Dwarf, and Zandalari Troll, all Paladins.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:08 PM
hehe

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:08 PM
Anyway, I'll let Varda have the gavel back now :}

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:08 PM
Not sure I'll make more paladins.
[5:09 PM]
If I make more of one class it's usual for different specs, and paladin only has 1 dps spec. Not sure I like the others.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:10 PM
Most fun I have tends to be on my Paladins. Prot was OK back when I dabbled in that, Holy's rougher to play solo because it's a healing spec.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:10 PM
I'll keep it in mind if we get more allied races in the future.
[5:11 PM]
Right. How did I end up with this thing.. gives gavel to Varda

VardaToday at 5:12 PM
hehe
[5:12 PM]
catches the gavel
[5:12 PM]
Thank you.
[5:12 PM]
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Tolkien!
[5:12 PM]
The first thing that needs to be said is a goodbye to Ian Holm.
[5:13 PM]
He was 88 and Parkinson's disease has boated him to the West.
[5:13 PM]
He played the older Bilbo in the Lord of the Rings movies.
[5:14 PM]

Next item up is that when reading the story about Thuringwethil, I realized that it had not truly occurred to me that she had been killed in the story.
[5:15 PM]
The idea of the bat-fell to me was like the old Nordic tales of the sark, a bar sark was a bear skin worn by warrors that were known as berserkers.
[5:15 PM]
I thought of it as something she had worn.
[5:15 PM]
May have to re-read.
[5:15 PM]
She would not have given it up willingly.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:15 PM
Oh, no, I never thought of it that way. I always figured they skinned her.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:15 PM
Now I have to look it up, but I always got the impression it was her literal skin, aye.

VardaToday at 5:15 PM
Interesting.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:16 PM
Just like with Draugluin being skinned.

VardaToday at 5:16 PM
It may have been. I will have to read it again. eww.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:16 PM
Yes.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:16 PM
She was in bat-form at the time it seems.

VardaToday at 5:17 PM
But as Maiar, I had assumed that they would leave a "dead" body as bodiless spirits and return to their master, as they would probably not return to Mandos.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:17 PM
"She was a messenger of Sauron, and was wont to fly in vampire's form to Angbad; and her great fingered wings were barbed at each joint's end with an iron claw."

VardaToday at 5:17 PM
There you go. Skinned.
[5:17 PM]
So she did not change form when dead.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:18 PM
Her body didn't, no, doesn't seem so.

VardaToday at 5:19 PM
That was all I had for Tolkien tonight. Did anyone else have anything?
[5:20 PM]
the gavel flies out and drops a smaller gavel on the hammerpad
[5:20 PM]
tink!
[5:20 PM]
the hammerpad trampolines the little gavel back up to the flier who carries it back to the shelf
[5:20 PM]
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After-meeting!

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:21 PM
Yeah, skimming through the chapter on Beren and Luthien I'm remembering what jerks Celegorm and Curufin were, heh.

VardaToday at 5:22 PM
Yep.

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:24 PM
Celebrimbor distanced himself from his father at that point.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:25 PM
Rebellious kid!

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:26 PM
Given his dad tried to force Luthien into marriage and claim someone else's kingdom by letting the rightful ruler rot in a prison cell, I think he made the right choice :}
[5:27 PM]
Not quite the kind of example we want on Father's Day :}

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:27 PM
hehe

Eonwe ValarToday at 5:33 PM
So for an easy example that we do want, I'm going to say go read over Appendix A in Return of the King, particularly the part where Elrond takes in Aragorn after his father dies when he's very young and treats him as one of his own.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:52 PM
Yep, good example, that Trying to think of others
[5:53 PM]
Seems to me like Tolkien's works are rather lacking in good fathers. A few of the hobbits fit, like Sam, the gaffer, and Rose's dad.
[5:53 PM]
Fingolfin works

VardaToday at 5:53 PM
Elrond?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:53 PM
Yes, Elrond, though Eonwe had already mentioned him

VardaToday at 5:54 PM
oops he did. zips on past again

ArienValarToday at 5:54 PM
i wonder whether Aragorn was a good father
[5:54 PM]
probably he was
[5:55 PM]
he had one son and many daughters if i remember right?

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:55 PM
Can't imagine him not being so. Sounds familiar?
[5:56 PM]
I wouldn't want to be the boy in that household.
[5:58 PM]
Right, time for my daily SCII warchest match. Will launch into report after that

Eonwe ValarToday at 6:00 PM
I don't know if I'd "lacked in good fathers" but more, we dont get to hear so much about the good ones.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:00 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant I'm sure most of them were pretty nice

Eonwe ValarToday at 6:00 PM
Makes one wonder how Fëanor was in raising his seven sons.

ArienValarToday at 6:03 PM
not too great since they ended up in different kingdoms who temporarily warried each other
[6:03 PM]
i think

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:04 PM
I don't think they exactly had war with each other, they just split up in order to cover more ground.
[6:05 PM]
They did band together in times of war, and the kinslayings.

ArienValarToday at 6:05 PM
ah yes true

Eonwe ValarToday at 6:06 PM
I get the impression the bonds of brotherhood between the seven weren't that bad off, probably because of how their saw their dad and his brothers.
[6:06 PM]
Desided they didn't want to be like that.

ArienValarToday at 6:07 PM
so in a crooked way he gave them a bad example they recognised as such and decided to be different

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:07 PM
Hehe. Not too far from Celebrimbor, then

ArienValarToday at 6:09 PM
well i ll be a good example and go to bed

Eonwe ValarToday at 6:09 PM
Sleep well Arien :}

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:09 PM
Namarie!

ArienValarToday at 6:10 PM
and you all too when the time comes and enjoy the remaining hours of midsummer and father's day
[6:10 PM]
Namarie for now

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Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:17 PM
Personal gaming rrreport!
[6:18 PM]
For flashgaming, 3 more old games, but fun!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:26 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/benrad/flood-runner-3 is the first game! A platform running game where you have to jump across platforms at different levels of height, picking up gems, dodging or jumping on enemies, getting powerups and collecting achievement, while avoiding the various environmental hazards that follow you on each level, like a flood or a lava wave. The level depends on your height; you can drop between them if you fall, so it's safest to get the highest through powerups and springs, while falling through the lowest one has you drowning in the water.
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    Flood Runner 3
    run, jump, double-jump, glide and kick your way through a series of creatures in this Armageddon style running game, collect multipliers and aim for a high score.
[6:26 PM]
So... lots to do, but the important thing is to keep running and jumping
[6:27 PM]

https://www.kongregate.com/games/Crescentyr/rullo for the second game! Simple math puzzles, where you have to select or exclude squares with numbers to reach the totals on the sides
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    Rullo
    Rullo is a simple math puzzle where you have a board full of numbers. The goal is to make the sum of numbers in each row and column be equal to the answer in t...

[6:27 PM]
Pretty simple, but you get random puzzles and choice of difficulty, so you can just do a puzzle now and then when you feel like it rather than make your way through a series of levels.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:56 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Trickysheep/kaleidoscope-reef is the third game! The coral reef has been damaged by a sunken oil ship and you have to rebuild it over various levels. Plant corals of various color receptors, make them bloom by adding the colored pieces to them and fill the bar by getting a lot of coral grown
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    Kaleidoscope Reef
    Kaleidoscope Reef is a colorful action/puzzle game with beautiful hand-drawn art, from the creators of Anika#39s Odyssey.
    Expand your threatened reef and creat...
[6:57 PM]
There's limited space in each level grow them on, depending on the rockface, and there's new mechanics in each level. Fish that attack the colors, or even your planted corals, oil that you need to remove before you can plant there, some pieces (I just read they're plankton, sorry) you need to recolor through various ways, and other stuff like that.

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Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:07 PM
Blizzard gaming:
[7:08 PM]

Starcraft 2:
More matches done for the war chest, unlocking 2 more tiers. Should be 4 days until this phase is complete, and then it's waiting until the next one opens
[7:10 PM]
Building skin rewards unlocked this week are the various gas extractors for each race, as well as the supply buildings + zerg larva. Some basic stuff that you'll have a lot of in each game, so nice to unlock
[7:11 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
1 level gained, to 419. Falstad to level 6. Had to play some unfamiliar heroes in the brawls, but no levels on those this time around.
[7:13 PM]
Hearthstone:
Demon Hunter to 25! No new golden card at uneven levels though.
[7:14 PM]
Tavern brawl is about deck recipes from the latest expansion, so pick a class and get the deck for it. Which means each class is themed, but with different themes. Went for the mage, which had a spell deck, but either I was unlucky or it wasn't that good... took 3 tries and only won when I was up against another mage
[7:19 PM]
The new solo adventure is out, Trial by Felfire! You play Aranna Starseeker, younger sister of the druid in the League of Explorers. Aranna heads out for adventure through the dark portal into Outland, where she has to face the Rusted Legion.
[7:20 PM]
I've only completed the first chapter so far, because the legendary quest required it, and you start there with a deck of rogue and hunter cards mostly. But her matches give demon hunter experience (which is how I got to 25) and she's also a purchaseable demon hunter hero, so I assume she'll be turned into a demon hunter along the way
[7:20 PM]
I wonder what Elise, her sister, would think of that
[7:21 PM]
WoW:
[7:22 PM]
Raiding seems to be slowing down. We stopped early on thursday to save some bosses for tonight's alt/guest raid but that seems to be losing interest, as we only had about 13 people tonight. But as long as we've got at least 10 we can continue
[7:22 PM]
Our first achievement day will be on tuesday though, so that'll be fun!
[7:24 PM]
Did 2 visions this week, one in each reset. Went through Stormwind on 4 masks because we hadn't killed N'Zoth and I needed my 3 corruption resistance, and chose to deactivate the mask that increases enemy sanity draining effects by 400%. I know from experience that that's my biggest weakness, so I chose to disable that rather than the double affix or the halved sanity.
[7:26 PM]
And it went pretty well! Messed up a few times, but the lowered sanity damage (and lower damage overall for only using 4 marks) even made Shaw easy enough. And to top it off, I finally got the pet toy from Craggle Wobbletop, Overly Sensitive Void Spectacles
[7:26 PM]
The second one was that Orgrimmar I mentioned, where I died before Rexxar as usual
[7:28 PM]
Now that the corruption vendor rotation is known, I looked up when the ones I still want are up, and it pretty much turns out that I now have over one week to get my last thousand Echoes for the currency, which is easily done, and then I'll have enough to finish my corruptions. So I once again dropped doing most emissaries, since the assaults and raid will easily get me that 1000.
[7:29 PM]
Got my first paragon chests for Rajani and Uldum Accord! Uldum didn't get me anything special but Rajani gave me rank 4 of the tank version of the Vision essence.
[7:30 PM]
I prefer the dps one from Uldum since that's the one I actually use, but with the new bad luck prevention for paragon essences it'll just be a matter of time, since the drop chance increases with each chest.
[7:30 PM]
But I also hope to get the pets from them eventually
[7:32 PM]
Weekly is pet battles! Good old pet battles. Started my last Family pvp achievement, with a team of 3 humanoids. The 3 winter gnomes, to be precise; Father Winter's Helper, Winter's Little Helper and Rotten Little Helper.
[7:33 PM]
Feels a bit weird to exploit gnomes in pet battles, but hey, that's their job, and they're pretty good with frost combos and gift throwing.
[7:33 PM]
Completed the quest with them, putting me halfway across the achievement. Next time pet week comes along, I'll finally have the big achievement and tabard reward!
[7:34 PM]
Which means we've already had 19 pet weeks since I started doing that. That seems... a weirdly high amount.
[7:35 PM]
With that Decision game finished I had some more time to read up on wowhead, but not as much time as I'd hoped, and I've fallen even further back. Gotta put more time into that, I guess!
[7:37 PM]
But I did manage to continue Total Annihilation's expansion! From level 4 to level 8, managed to make my way through Lusch, and on to the next planet which is unstable, earthquaky and has very unusual metal patches... the current level has a ton of metal patches right to the east, which means that if I can defend it, I'll be able to build my armies really fast
[7:38 PM]
The expansion's levels are definitely a bit gimmicky. Not as much as a few later levels in the original campaign, but there are aspects to the maps now and then which can totally turn a fight around.
[7:39 PM]
One of the Lusch maps had you start out with only 2 metal patches.. or so it seemed, those sneaky map creators had planted a lone tree in the south of your starting base which was completely hiding the third
[7:39 PM]
I can tell they had fun with these.
[7:42 PM]
Oh, for WoW, the comic collection volume 1 was supposed to arrive this week, but apparently it got postponed to early July. Ah well, a few more weeks aren't too bad.
[7:45 PM]
And that's my report for the week!

Eonwe ValarToday at 7:47 PM
Oh, and I know this is late, but I hope everyone's been thinking about the RP :}
[7:52 PM]

Hmm, looks like either 2 more azerite armors scrapped, 1 one lucky 4-mask run, and I'll have 3 465 Azerite pieces, and that's as high as I expect to get those, because there's no way I'm scrounging together 4750 TItan Residuum to geta 475 piece. [Note: WoW.]

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:52 PM
Oh, I haven't looked into that recently. Should do so.
[7:53 PM]
I have nothing else to upgrade anyway

Eonwe ValarToday at 7:55 PM
:}
[7:55 PM]
Well, my upgrades are coming for 4-masks, with the occasional lucky slot that isn't already 465 from 3-masks.
[7:56 PM]
Hmm, I take that back. All that can be got from Horrific Visions is now at least 460, so I guess it's just either better corruptions or better stat distribution now.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:57 PM
Well, that first one is what the vendor is for

Eonwe ValarToday at 7:57 PM
Aye, and Mastery 3 won't be coming around until,.. 3jul I think.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:58 PM
Plenty of time to get your echoes.

Eonwe ValarToday at 7:58 PM
Got enough for four of them right now.
[7:58 PM]
Got 2 470 pieces that'll get them first.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:58 PM
Ah How many do you want total?

Eonwe ValarToday at 7:59 PM
I'm hearing stacking Mastery gets pretty interesting for a Ret Pally.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:59 PM
I'm stacking crit for feral myself.
[7:59 PM]
Guardian's mostly echoing void.

Eonwe ValarToday at 7:59 PM
But since I'm pushing 50% already, boosting that by another 24% ought to get real interesting.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:59 PM
hehe

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:02 PM
How far I'll go, I don't know. Guess it depends on how well it goes, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:02 PM
And on your corruption resistance I presume.

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:02 PM
I need to check into if it's worth getting Twilight Devastaion 3 or just sticking with 2.
[8:02 PM]
That too, yes.
[8:04 PM]
I can handle being in the 40-ish range.
[8:04 PM]
If it came to it. Right now I'm in the 6 range though.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:04 PM
I think one of my specs is at 1 right now

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:05 PM
hehe
[8:06 PM]
I'm trying to craft a pair of pants with indestructible on it, or if it manages a better tertiary stat like leech I'd take that too, heh, as long as it still goes with the secondaries I want. But I ran out of expulsom and now I have to get some ore to make stuff to burn to hopefully get more.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:07 PM
Why indestructible? Out of repair money?

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:08 PM
No, that's what blacksmiths get from their fancy tool.
[8:08 PM]
Otherwise I wouldn't really care, hehe.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:09 PM
Ah yes So you're trying to get an indestructible set just because you can with the tool?

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:09 PM
That's basically it :}
[8:09 PM]
For the two items that are worth making, anyway :}

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:09 PM
hehe

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:10 PM
I would've preferred if they let me make myself a 470 weapon though. I was a Weaponsmith back when that meant something in WoW.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:11 PM
I had an armorsmith once. Had assigned weapon profs to future alts but never got there before they went away.

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:14 PM
I'd like to say one thing LotRO did right was make professions like Weaponsmithing and Armoursmithing actually worth something, but the truth is I haven't played LotRO at the same level I've played WoW, so it's quite possible it's good to me simply because I don't have the proper gear range to compare it to.
[8:14 PM]
But levelling up at least I feel they're more worthwhile than they are in WoW, for what that's worth.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:15 PM
Well, that's something at least. Not sure how long you spend levelling up in LotRO compared to the endgame, compared to WoW.

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:16 PM
For those who play more, I'm sure they spend plenty of time at the endgame. For myself, I haven't been in endgame in about 3 or 4 expansions.
[8:17 PM]
Problem is I'm stuck between levels when my weaponsmithing helps, heh. EIther too high for one tier or too low for the other.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:17 PM
Ouch

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:20 PM
At least there are breakpoints where it's useful though, hehe.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:20 PM
Good enough

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:21 PM
I wish crafting in WoW was good for more than transmog, but they rarely seem to hit that balance between giving us something good to work for, giving us only absolutely worthless stuff, and giving us stuff that'll be obsolete long before we can make it.(edited)

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:23 PM
Luckily transmog is something I'll gladly craft for

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:23 PM
The 2 pieces of 470 gear in this round were on the border, but it was better than the last round so I went for it, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:23 PM
Heh.
[8:24 PM]
Shadowlands should be interesting with crafting the legendaries, at least.

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:24 PM
I'm getting less hopeful.
[8:24 PM]
But I'll wait to pass judgement until I see it.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:24 PM
Good call

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:26 PM
I was hoping Torghast was going to be similar to Horrific Visions in the capacity of challenging content for a flexibly-sized small group that could provide a gearing path. It's not sounding like that anymore.
[8:32 PM]
And there's no way they're going to let us craft a full set of legendary armor and weapons to wear all at once.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:32 PM
Ah. Yes. No. There's an entire set of appearances to unlock that's associated with the legendaries, but you can only wear a few at once

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:40 PM
I think I preferred the Lightningsteel way they did things over the "let's lock average-power gear behind a BoP crafting drop that the average person will spend most of the content cycle trying to acquire enough of to make the item and will likely have something better before he gets to."
[8:42 PM]
It could just be the distance from it and I don't remember the power of it compared to raid gear at the time, but it at least felt like working towards something that would be attainable.
[8:44 PM]
10 days you had a decent basic weapon, 15 more you had the next level, 15 more and you had the final tier, assuming you kept up with it and got the rest of the mats together too.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:46 PM
Was this a Legion thing?

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:46 PM
Mists of Pandaria, taking a page from Burning Crusade.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:46 PM
Ah.

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:46 PM
Stormherald, Lionheart Executioner, all that.

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:47 PM
Ahh, yes, it rings a bell now. Well, the BC version anyway.
[8:48 PM]
Anyway, I should be going

Eonwe ValarToday at 8:48 PM
They had a "Reborn" version of those weapons. You went to a specific place on the Isle of Thunder every day to make a bar of lightningsteel. Think they eventually made it so you could forge the lightningsteel anywhere, but I remember the start was going back there.
[8:48 PM]
Sleep well Phar :}

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:48 PM
Reborn sounds familiar, yes.
[8:49 PM]
Namarie!

VardaToday at 10:29 PM
Namarie

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