Valar Guild

August 9, 2020 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Varda.
[times are Central Time from Varda's Discord. Add one hour for Eastern.]
["slight smile" is the same as we are used to using as a regular smiley]

Attending (and spoke): (6)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Falco, Irmo, Varda

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web
Gaming:
    General reports: WoW, LotRO, SC2, Diablo Immortal, Hearthstone. Eve.
 Tolkien:
    Topic: forum role-play group story round of postings.
After-meeting:
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting

Eonwe Valar08/07/2020
This supply crate always takes so long to drop....
August 8, 2020

Eonwe Valar08/08/2020
Lol, just ended up with a draw in Temple of Hotmogu.
August 9, 2020

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Aiya

Varda08/09/2020
Aiya
[4:00 PM]

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
[4:00 PM]

Membership:
[4:00 PM]
I'm having trouble typing
[4:01 PM]
left arm does not want to extend
[4:01 PM]
Anyone able to take gavel?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Try using mostly letters on the right side of the board

Varda08/09/2020
and reach across keys, slow, can do
[4:02 PM]
any members' news?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
It's really really warm here.

Varda08/09/2020
fans

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
If I'm dead by the end of the meeting I'll have melted.

Varda08/09/2020
sends ice water

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
soaks in

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Varda08/09/2020
Web:
[4:04 PM]
Nothing new, yet...
[4:04 PM]

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Gaming:
[4:04 PM]
Eonwe?
[4:04 PM]
See you coming in

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Heya.

Irmo08/09/2020
Greetings all

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Aiya!
[4:06 PM]
arien poked

Varda08/09/2020
Thanks!
[4:06 PM]
Hiya Eonwe and Irmo : )

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
One sec while I bring up gaming news.
[4:07 PM]
OK, here we go:
[4:07 PM]

World of Warcraft:

ArienValar08/09/2020
Aiya all

Varda08/09/2020
Aiya Arien

Irmo08/09/2020
Evening Arien

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
This week's bonus event: Pet Battles.
[4:08 PM]
Comp Stomp was scheduled as the PvP Brawl, but problems were found with that so they replaced it with Temple of Hotmogu.(edited)

Varda08/09/2020
what is mogu

ArienValar08/09/2020
mogu are a people in pandaria

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Mogu is a race in WoW in Pandaria.

ArienValar08/09/2020
from Zul corrupted

Varda08/09/2020
thx

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
(it's also Kotmogu, not hotmogu, but given the weather I can understand)

ArienValar08/09/2020
warrior society basically living through conquests .. think mongols just not riding

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mogu
Wowpedia
Mogu
The mogu are powerful, magical titan-forged who live in Pandaria. Proud, hateful, and powerful both physically and magically, the mogu are the foremost enemies of the pandaren. They have fought over the future of Pandaria since time immemorial.
They were created by the Keepers...

[4:10 PM]
For more reading without visiting your local library :}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mogu for the online one
Wowpedia
Mogu
The mogu are powerful, magical titan-forged who live in Pandaria. Proud, hateful, and powerful both physically and magically, the mogu are the foremost enemies of the pandaren. They have fought over the future of Pandaria since time immemorial.
They were created by the Keepers...

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
That's what I linked? ;}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Oh, missed that line

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Anyway, there you go for the short and longer versions of the answer to your question :}

Varda08/09/2020
thx

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Check out this week's hotfixes.  ---
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23277654/hotfixes-august-7-2020
World of Warcraft
Hotfixes: August 7, 2020 - WoW
Here you'll find a list of hotfixes that address various issues related to World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth and WoW Classic.

[4:15 PM]
The Brawl name, by the way, is a play on the name of the original battleground, Temple of Kotmogu.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Where it also takes place.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Aye.
[4:15 PM]
In the Brawl version, haste is increased and respawn timers are decreased.(edited)
[4:16 PM]
As well as being able to pass the orbs. Makes it a faster paced game.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Yeees, very annoying as tank to face a bunch of rogues and warriors with increased haste.
[4:17 PM]
Took me... 8 tries?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Wouldn't be surprised. Doesn't make it any less annoying when you get overmatched with an enemy.(edited)
[4:19 PM]
Lord of the Rings Online:
[4:19 PM]
Update 27.2 came out this week. ---
https://www.lotro.com/en/content/update-272-release-notes
[4:19 PM]
Varda also has LotRO news.

Varda08/09/2020

LotRO kinmates past week:
Landroval:
Arien
Eonwe
Erkenbrand
Hurin
Irmo
Lenwe
Nar
Nimrodel
Varda

Ithil:
Falco
Fangorn
Varda

Anor:
Varda
EVE Online:
Addition from Pallando, who was unavailable at meeting time and gave us this early:
The big NPC invasion of Empire space continues. I have been fighting against it and things are.. well, they're going. Much back and forth, lots of long hours. New changes to the content come Tuesday, with more on the horizon.
[3:58 PM]
The big player war proceeds, with Goons slowly but steadily losing ground, and several large, uncontested losses of Keepstars over this weekend.
[3:59 PM]
Also, years late, I finally got Sauron into the Valar Guild corp in Eve, and I have no idea why I never thought to do that before.

[4:20 PM]
your gavel

ArienValar08/09/2020
Who?

Falco08/09/2020
Aiya

ArienValar08/09/2020
Whose?
[4:21 PM]
Aiya Falco

Varda08/09/2020
eonwe

ArienValar08/09/2020
:)

Varda08/09/2020
Aiya Falco : )

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Aiya!

Varda08/09/2020
Tolkien:
[4:27 PM]
Anyone is welcome to suggest topic  : )

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
My apologies, got dfisconnected and took a bit to get back
[4:28 PM]
I have more gaming news.

Varda08/09/2020
eep

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020

Starcraft 2:
[4:30 PM]
A balance update came out this week. ---
https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23495671
StarCraft II
StarCraft II Official Game Site
Wage war across the galaxy with three unique and powerful races. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac.

[4:31 PM]
Diablo Immortal:
[4:31 PM]
Blizzard put out a mid-year update on how things are going with Diablo Immortal.  ---
https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/23494812/diablo-immortal-2020-mid-year-update-8-4-2020
Diablo III
Diablo Immortal 2020 Mid-Year Update
It’s been a little while since you’ve heard from us, so we wanted check in and share an update on how development has been progressing for Diablo Immortal.

[4:31 PM]
Hearthstone:
[4:31 PM]
Scholomance Acadamy is out.  ---
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23486106/scholomance-academy-is-now-live
Scholomance Academy is NOW LIVE!
Hearthstone’s newest expansion is live! Log-in now to receive a free class Legendary!

[4:32 PM]
That concludes my gaming news. Seems we were ready to move on the Tolkien so I'll pick up from there.(edited)

Irmo08/09/2020
I am off to sleep friends, namarië for now

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Namarie!

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Eonwe Valar08/09/2020

Tolkien:
[4:32 PM]
Sleep well Irmo :}

Varda08/09/2020
night

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I would like to mention the RP while we're here real quick. Did anyone want me to write something easier to build off of, or is there anyone with any idea of where to go from where I have it now?

Varda08/09/2020
i should track, probably

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Those 2 npcs you saw?

Varda08/09/2020
yes to ruins find s
[4:39 PM]
being tracked or ambush by A's noldo friend

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Remember we all came on the ruins from different angles.

Varda08/09/2020
party should not separate

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So from none of those angles would anything be found.

Varda08/09/2020
send ahead expendable tracker, report back

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Any volunteers?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
We were expecting to come upon some peoples at unawares.

Varda08/09/2020
was my plan. change?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Here's the pertinent part of my last post:
[4:42 PM]
"Auros resheathed the swords and looked again towards the ruins. He couldn't see them in the low light at this distance, but he thought he saw movement in their direction. Quietly rousing the group, he instructed them to be ready to move quickly. He directed them to give a wide berth on the ruins on each side to come upon them from different directions. When everyone was prepared, they separated, with Auros taking the center, and Fainan with Frali taking one flanking position, and Calion the other. When they converged on the ruins under the fuller light of Anar, they found....
Nothing."

Varda08/09/2020
k, leaves nothing to do. next?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So we came from several directions and we didn't spot anything.
[4:43 PM]
Go in the one direction we haven't seen, I guess?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
It leaves rummaging around in the ruins to see if we find any indication of the group Fainan had seen heading towards these ruins the previous night.
[4:46 PM]
We moved early because Auros had seen movement in the direction of those ruins as per that quote. As mentioned in previous discussions on this, I was trying to play on the title of the chapter.
[4:47 PM]
If any of that helps. Otherwise Auros can just start "barking orders" and turning over rocks and stuff, hehe.

ArienValar08/09/2020
Rocks would be something for Frali

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I don't mind writing more to build on if it helps, I just need to know :}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
"barking orders" maybe not, but you can politely suggest

Varda08/09/2020
what would Aragorn do?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Forge a narrative out of some footprints and a bit of rope?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Well, there's a reason I put "barking orders" in quotes, but point is they start examining the area to look for clues.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Maybe there's a hidden tunnel...

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
An old basement or something? Interesting thought.
[4:52 PM]
That leads into a tunnel.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Or hidden under a statue or pillar

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Gives us a problem of do we check out the tunnel or keep looking above ground :}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I suggest we send the dwarf underground!

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I mean, it's dark down there. We're likely to be eaten by a grue....
[4:54 PM]
Old reference, hehe.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Zork, yes
[4:54 PM]
Or older still.
[4:54 PM]
They put something in a Shadowlands instance called a Tarragrue.

Falco08/09/2020
LOL I was thinking Zork myself

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So basically Tarrasque + grue.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Hehe, didn't see that.

Varda08/09/2020
check above first, sentry mouth of tunnel, at least 2 tunnel, get rest if deeper than root celler
[4:58 PM]
dungeon crawl?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
About time, isn't it?

Varda08/09/2020
no kobolds

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Some goblins.
[4:59 PM]
Frankly I don't know the average trashmob in LotRO dungeons.
[4:59 PM]
Goblins, orcs, spiders?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Depends on the zone.
[5:00 PM]
Barrow Downs you fight wights for obvious reasons.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
True.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Anyway, I guess I should ask if we really want to go underground :}

Varda08/09/2020
cave claws

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I remember in the DM of the Rings comic where they kept complaining about fighting nothing but orcs and having to run away almost every time to the point they never got any loot.

Varda08/09/2020
if find recent tracks yes

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
...and then they plundered the Helm's Deep armory only to find there wasn't a vendor to sell the stuff to anywhere near...

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
heh
[5:04 PM]
These tunnels aren't likely to be Moria-level expansive. Easy to get cornered, narrow walls, hard to fight.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
It depends really. Nothing wrong with a side-adventure for a bit but at the rate we're going, we might want to stay on the main quest.

Varda08/09/2020
roto-rooter

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Unless we can combine the two.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Well the debate at least would be interesting, see who of our cast would be for going into the tunnels and who wouldn't.

Varda08/09/2020
if relevant to quest and see reason to think so

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I suppose Calion wouldn't mind. It can't be more lifeless than above ground and he's used to hanging out in Thranduil's cave.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Another note is if we go in and emerge somewhere else, we will be horseless.

Varda08/09/2020
one at entrance guards horses
[5:07 PM]
stays rest of chapter, oops

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Hey Fainan, I hope you weren't too bored... we just got our quest done, wanna head back to Rivendell?
[5:08 PM]
I don't suppose we could... drop Estarion there?

Varda08/09/2020
hehe
[5:09 PM]
guess we were in Riv so long, he left

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Like one of those familiars who's never around in game terms unless you remember him and need him for something.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I've been reminded it's after the hour, so I guess I should go for a final vote: did we want me to add something more to build from, or did any of this spark enough ideas to help you three?

Varda08/09/2020
do we find tracs in ruins to lead us
[5:13 PM]
tracks

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
We can find something that leads us to tunnels, we could even find out they were caved in, blocking off any possibility of following whoever we thought we were following.

Varda08/09/2020
go in tunnel or out of ruins

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
It doesn't have to be a full adventure, even just finding something, taking a look in, and finding our way is blocked is something.

Varda08/09/2020
cave in good. but a"s friend inside to dig out?
[5:16 PM]
give reason for story mention

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I doubt it. I really need to give more thought on where he's coming in, to be honest.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Not everything we do has to be relevant

Varda08/09/2020
k

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
And even finding the tracks blocked is some form of progress.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Aye, let's us know Auros isn't crazy, lol.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Though if these are the tracks from this morning's movement I'd start looking for a hidden door.
[5:19 PM]
Blockage seems a bit too convenient.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
But does kill the whole "Where Shadows Lie" vibe. Heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
...I just got the second meaning

Varda08/09/2020
we escape booby trap cave in
[5:21 PM]
shadow seemed to show good entrance
[5:21 PM]
no password

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
:}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Hmm, orcs are hostile creatures.. what's Orcish for "enemy", Gandalf?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
"Ea!" :}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
hehe

ArienValar08/09/2020
gashmog ... fireman

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Random thought. We don't even all have to go down into the tunnel.

ArienValar08/09/2020
man that feels like fire = bad = enemy?

Varda08/09/2020
sentry with horses
[5:25 PM]
rune-keeper pretends offense

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I mean, we can, not saying we don't, but if the point is a dead end anyway, someone can go for various reasons: eagerness, inexperience, overconfidence,  go down alone to investigate, nearly get caught in the cavein, then everyone rushes to the source of the giant dust cloud coming out of the ground to see what's up.(edited)

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Fireman more sounds like the miner employee who blows up pockets of gas in the mine.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
"Someone" or "someones".
[5:26 PM]
Just throwing that out there, but I promise not to wisely say in my Elrond voice "And I think this cavein was intended for you, X" if anyone thinks that's an interesting idea :}

Varda08/09/2020
: )

ArienValar08/09/2020
that smells like Frali

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
lol

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
...I wasn't going to say, but yes
[5:29 PM]
Calion could do it if nobody else was volunteering, but dwarf is probably best suited.

ArienValar08/09/2020
well it would fit him .. he is inexperienced , he s probably overeager to prove himself and has not what i d call a clean record in adventuring

Varda08/09/2020
and cmes out dramatically in a cloud of dust
[5:30 PM]
comes

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Covered in stone dust.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Even a mistake like that can be made for good reasons. Maybe found some tracks, something looked like it was being dragged, something, followed into a cellar, found passage, didn't want to disturb anyone until he was sure, one thing led to another.

Varda08/09/2020
Frali would be the most capable scout for the cave
[5:33 PM]
What? We handle cave-ins all the time. Reason we need to be strong

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
It's why we've got pickaxes in our backpocket at all times.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
A giant rock to the head is a giant rock to the head whether you're a Dwarf or an Elf :}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Dwarves wear rock-repellent helmets?

Varda08/09/2020
Note cool dwarven mining helmet
[5:34 PM]
has light maybe : )

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
You no take candle? ;}

Varda08/09/2020
My dwarf in LotRO has one : )
[5:34 PM]
hehehe

ArienValar08/09/2020
:)

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I do believe they're in WoW as well.

Varda08/09/2020
Put the candle back

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Ok so sounds like Frali has a direction for Arien to write him in :}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mining_outfit take your pick
Wowpedia
Mining outfit
Roleplaying outfit that will make you resemble a miner.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I imagine if Auros is letting Frali follow tracks down into cellars without someone following along, he's probably seen something that caught his attention. I guess I need to figure out what that is.
[5:38 PM]
Since Frali's been riding with Fainan this whole time, what's Fainan doing that distracted her? :}
[5:39 PM]
What's Calion up to that he didn't see Frali wander down into a cellar?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Probably 3 pillars away, studying something for clues.

Varda08/09/2020
Post made

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Blocked from sight.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Or did he think anything of it at the time?

Varda08/09/2020
Watching the horses? : )

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Johnny Five voice Input! Need Input! :}
[5:40 PM]
Time to check out Varda's post :}

Varda08/09/2020
Input made, Johnny Five. Liked that show
[5:41 PM]
Johnny Five is alive

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Don't know it.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Life not malfunction. NOT malfunction! :}

Varda08/09/2020
hehe
[5:41 PM]
You have a treat ahead of you sometime, Phar

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Fun movie from the 80s, Phar. Worth at least one watch I'd say.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
heh, sure, as if my list of things to watch isn't large enough. But if I see it in the tv guide I'll give it a go. What's it called?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Short Circuit

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Alright.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
The sequel is ok, but, like what happens with many movies, the first is the classic, the second is just trying to recapture that lightning in a bottle.

Varda08/09/2020
get the unretouched version : )

ArienValar08/09/2020
loved that film

Varda08/09/2020
They tried to make it politically correct, weird

ArienValar08/09/2020
the first one

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
The first one, or the second one?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Yeah, if I'm going for a version on tv I'm not going to get unretouched

Varda08/09/2020
1st
[5:44 PM]
then know cell phones were guns

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Ah, that kind of thing

Varda08/09/2020
guns in every movie and they do that

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Now that's something I "need input" on. I know there have been editted versions due to language, timing, etc., but hadn't heard they made that kind of change.(edited)

Varda08/09/2020
long ago

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
If I see someone shooting with a cellphone I'll know something's up.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Lol, a certain program did a parody of that.

Varda08/09/2020
a clue : )

ArienValar08/09/2020
i cant connect to the forum

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
So Fainan found a hole.

ArienValar08/09/2020
ah good now

Varda08/09/2020
shadows lie

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Odd, Forum works for me.
[5:48 PM]
Oh good.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So much for Frali going in unnoticed.

Varda08/09/2020
someone could say bad to go in
[5:48 PM]
not for a dwarf
[5:48 PM]
zoom
[5:49 PM]
gives some interaction
[5:49 PM]
silly elves

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Auros slides into the hole, gets stuck at his waist, everyone decides he's not allowed to have any hunny until he gets out of the hole. Oh wait, that's Winnie the Pooh.(edited)

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I did consider that we elves might be too tall for the tunnel.
[5:51 PM]
But it'd need to be a vertical entrance to find that out.

Varda08/09/2020
hehe

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Or Frali goes in first, we follow, can't get further, and get back out.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Frali goes in the hole, comes out a cellar? :}

Varda08/09/2020
have to crouch going into dark, cannot fight
[5:52 PM]
that works
[5:52 PM]
why is the rum gone

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Because it was used to light a signal fire :}
[5:53 PM]
At least that's the excuse in the first movie :}

Varda08/09/2020
aye : )

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Well, skipping a grandiose speech like where Thorin tells Bilbo "Get in that large dragon-infested mountain and fetch me a prize." (to paraphrase) I guess this is a chance for Frali to give us more information about the hole :}

Varda08/09/2020
: )

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Arien gets to world-build, or hole-build, as it were :}

Varda08/09/2020
that's how all started
[5:56 PM]
had a hobbit in it

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
In a hole in the ground crawled a dwarf.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I suspect we won't find a Hobbit in this one :}

Varda08/09/2020
and a Phar in another

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Or will we?! suspenseful music

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Finding a hobbit family living deep within a tunnel under an abandoned Angmar ruin. It would be a twist.
[5:58 PM]
Maybe it comes out in the Shire.

Varda08/09/2020
backdoor to Moria
[5:59 PM]
Pippin may have "tripped" into that well

ArienValar08/09/2020
Post

Varda08/09/2020
thx

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Affirming that last question seems tricky.

Varda08/09/2020
oh, thought he would just dart in, surprise

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
As if Frali's not valuable for anything else

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Posted :}

Varda08/09/2020
goblins might be small enough

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Editted Posted :}

Varda08/09/2020
hah
[6:04 PM]
refresh helps read posts
[6:06 PM]
made sense and not direct no

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
?

ArienValar08/09/2020
How do you want the cave to be .. a cellar really? half broken stairs leading into a doorway and then blockexd by a cavein?

Varda08/09/2020
gave a choice to Frali

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I imagine a cellar hole would be larger.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Maybe the actual cellar door was broken/buried under large fallen stone.(edited)
[6:10 PM]
Based on the size, we can probably guess this wasn't made by or for Men or Uruk-Hai, unless they were trying to make an underground pool with a really cool waterslide and just haven't found the water yet.

Varda08/09/2020
waterslide

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Nice idea

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
(Thinking about a video where I saw some guys doing exactly that)
[6:11 PM]
The guys in the video had the water though, hehe.

Varda08/09/2020
phar needs cooling

ArienValar08/09/2020
you know such were used to transport logs or boat like wooden transport err thingies to transport ore from the mine to a smelter
[6:13 PM]
such at least they did here at the diatomite mine up at the north end of Skye

Varda08/09/2020
going to birl?
[6:14 PM]
we were kidding about waterslide, but slippery slope or dust d

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I don't know if the topography of our current location would make that plausible to find.

Varda08/09/2020
similar

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
But aye, I was just trying to be funny with the underground pool/waterslide thing.

Varda08/09/2020
clothes chute for something else

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Handy place to put something you're dragging, anyway.
[6:16 PM]
Drop it down the hole and see it slide to where you want it to be.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
True. This hole may not have been meant for people in the first place.

Varda08/09/2020
a chute

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Maybe the orcs we saw didn't take that path, they dropped something off. That opens up possibilites.
[6:18 PM]
Dumbwaiter might've been safer :}

Varda08/09/2020
yummier

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Bah, just a captured elf, no problem

Varda08/09/2020
Frali, treasure hunter
[6:19 PM]
just some Noldo

ArienValar08/09/2020
post

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Aww, no narrow escape in a cloud of dust.

ArienValar08/09/2020
and time to head to bed i think .. I shall read the updates tomorrow and the discussion  And you take rest Varda and have that shoulder seen to , promise?

Varda08/09/2020
but something sticking out of pile
[6:23 PM]
bag o'elf

ArienValar08/09/2020
Sticking out of pile?
[6:24 PM]
should i change the post?

Varda08/09/2020
blocked by what looked like a natural rockfall
[6:24 PM]
on second look...

ArienValar08/09/2020
Maybe deliberatly blocked by either an explosion or wilful hacking in the cavewalls?

Varda08/09/2020
have to find Auros friend sometime
[6:26 PM]
or oops cave in

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
That's actually something I might use.

Varda08/09/2020
goblins for umbrella, mooshed
[6:26 PM]
so alive elf

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Formulating story in my brain now, hehe.

Varda08/09/2020
: )

ArienValar08/09/2020
Namarie  Gett better soon Varda

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Bangs Gavel

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Aftermeeting:

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Namarie!

Varda08/09/2020
thank you

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Thank you for sticking around so long to discuss the RP :}

Varda08/09/2020
jumps
[6:31 PM]
nice round of posting!

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
I've got nothing to contribute, I feel

Varda08/09/2020
you may help haul and open bag?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Oh, sure, I just mean in the current round.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I'm trying to determine if we have an idea of the scope of the space down in the tunnel from Arien's post.
[6:35 PM]
As I'm reading the post (tell me if this is how you all see it too):
[6:37 PM]
"Hole" => the "slide", "chute" whatever you want to call it, indeterminate length but can't be that long. Not terribly important right now. Frali gets to the bottom...

Varda08/09/2020
frali could have been talking fro m inside tunnel then spot something

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
It says Frali came back to the entrance. That would have to be altered.

Varda08/09/2020
aye

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
"short tunnel", big enough to turn around in at least, talks about perhaps leading to a doorway. Could assume big enough to be taken for a room or wider space?
[6:39 PM]
Or at least the remains of one on this side of the cavein.
[6:41 PM]
Depending on how deep this area is, would probably have the ruins caved in, some of the stones visible at the top of the blockage at least.
[6:42 PM]
Depending on the underlying rocks and density of the dirt, probably stones or rubble decorating the blockage.

Varda08/09/2020
hmmm
[6:43 PM]
hoped for Frali to do rescue
[6:43 PM]
be funny not treasure just an elf

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
hehe

Varda08/09/2020
not all treasure is silver and gold, mate
[6:45 PM]
-Jack Sparrow

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
:}

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
...Maybe we'll find some rum?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
The best ships are friendships? :}

Varda08/09/2020
hehe

Varda08/09/2020
namarie : )

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Namarie!
[7:08 PM]
Personal gaming report, then

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Take care Varda :}

Varda08/09/2020
: )
NEW

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
"Even Frali had to walk a bit ducked as he followed a short tunnel that was blocked by what looked like a natural rockfall" ok, so the tunnel probably less than 5.0 ft tall. Dwarves average 4.5-5 ft as I recall.
[7:23 PM]
Unless the entire ceiling was collapsing at that point, it probably would not have been tall enough for an elf to pursue anyone down into.
[7:27 PM]
I don't imagine this would connect to a cave system deeper down.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
More of a shallow tunnel system.. doorway, cellar... not exactly a cave. Perhaps.. catacombs?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I'm trying to imagine that if someone were caught on the other side of the cave-in, what would their options be?

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
If they let it cave-in, I'd imagine there's another exit.
[7:29 PM]
Doesn't need to be easily found.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I don't feel like what we've described is enough to say there's another way out that would take them any significant distance from the ruins.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
You could have a network of tunnels with a ton of dead ends, as long as they know which way to go.
[7:30 PM]
It might not be enough to say so, no. But it's a possibility.
[7:30 PM]
...I just watched 2 episodes of a cop show on my pc. I need to get out of the mindset of the cop and more into the writer

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
hehe
[7:34 PM]
Hmm, with what I'm thinking I should probably also consider how old the cave-in is. It can't be too recent or else we would've felt some evidence of it I'm sure. We weren't so far away that that kind of underground movement should've gone unnoticed.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So if anything was dragged down there it was before we noticed the movement.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
The cavein is probably days old.
[7:35 PM]
At least.
[7:37 PM]
I was considering if it was intentionally caused to slow down/ stop a pursuer, but again, 5ft would be tough for an elf to pursue in.
[7:38 PM]
Unless he came upon them in a more open area.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So we're not going to find an elf in the blockage.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
I'm not ready for Telperos to enter the story, but I was considering if I was ready to plant the seeds of his entry.
[7:40 PM]
Since he should be days ahead of us, in order for us to catch up something must've slowed him down, or he must've stayed put for some reason, or he must be returning from somewhere.
[7:40 PM]
If he's pursuing someone or something, the first is the most likely.
[7:43 PM]
Without giving away too much of what I'm thinking, there it is.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
So... did he follow them from the other side where it was more open? Or do you mean the open area is in the ruins?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
More open area in the underground system.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
In our side of the tunnel?

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Near enough by. Not necessarily this tunnel, but this end of a tunnel system.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Ah, so the cave-in, if intentional, is not just our tunnel.

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
But I'm not sure I'm liking it the more I think about it.
[7:48 PM]
Yeah, imagine the tunnel we found as a drop-off point as we discussed, not necessarily intended for people to be using for passage but to drop down supplies, or for air, that kind of thing.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Right, I really need to do my report and go to bed now

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
OK, I'll let you do your thing then, heh.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Alright, personal gaming report!
[7:51 PM]

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For flashgaming... no new ones this week, so it seems we've gone back to same old for a while.
[7:52 PM]
With a paint-based kongpanion, the badges are mostly about colors and graphics, and as such, the three games I've got for you are graphically noticeable
[7:55 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/ArmorGames/k-o-l-m-2
 is the first game! Sequel to the first one, which I also recommend. A pixelbased platformer with a great atmosphere, playing a little robot getting upgrades and, in this sequel, the sister's around too. Unlock stuff and go through the story
Kongregate
K.O.L.M. 2
The little robot is back. After escaping the clutches of his Mother in the dark dpeths of the facility, he realises that his troubles have only just begun. Can...

[7:56 PM]
https://www.kongregate.com/games/nikital/interlocked
 for the second game! A 3d puzzle game with multiple levels where you have to remove parts of a 3d block by twisting it around and shifting pieces until it's all unlocked.
Kongregate
Interlocked
Wrap your mind around the next intensive puzzle gameInterlocked!
A 3D puzzle game with a chilling atmosphere.

You know those puzzles consisting of a few wo...

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Ivory/5-differences
 for the last one! Basically what it says. Find the 5 differences in each level, they can be hard to find. Some also have animation for fun!
Kongregate
5 Differences
More of an art project than a game, and sort of an experiment with rotoscoping.

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[8:06 PM]
Blizzard gaming:
[8:08 PM]
Starcraft II:
Third phase of the war chest started, 2 days after I completed phase 2
[8:08 PM]
2 battles done now, so just not enough for first tier. It'll come.
[8:11 PM]
Heroes of the Storm:
Level 425, got Stitches to level 4
[8:11 PM]
No new healer matches for the quest done yet
[8:11 PM]
Had a Lucio during the brawl, but that doesn't count!
[8:12 PM]
Hearthstone:
New expansion has started now. Got a paladin legendary as intro reward, and 2 of the 3 new legendary quests done.
[8:13 PM]
Brawl is the old Valeera brawl with random spells from every class, which will summon random minions of the same mana. Random random.
[8:13 PM]
WoW:
[8:14 PM]
Bit more raiding on thursday but nothing new. No raid on tuesday, wednesday cancelled. Next tuesday more achievements hopefully.
[8:15 PM]
Another 4-mask vision, even with the toughest affixes it's a pretty smooth clear now. Over 80k mementos, gotta keep going for that mount!
[8:16 PM]
Weekly's pet battles, and as planned I got my last 5 fights for Humanoid Brawler done, also giving me the Family Brawler meta. It took me 20 pet battle weeks, but now the achievement is complete! No new pet for the achievement, but did get a master trainer tabard.
[8:16 PM]
So now I'm a pokemon master
[8:20 PM]
And another achievement got as well! After months of regularly checking the faction assaults, I finally got my last npc for a certain quest in the Tiragarde assault.
[8:20 PM]
So I got the Upright Citizens achievement, rewarding a toy which summons one of the citizens!
[8:20 PM]
And most importantly I no longer have to check
[8:21 PM]
And that's it for WoW.
[8:21 PM]
Not much. Hot week, not much time.
[8:22 PM]
For Total Annihilation
 I completed level 3, and headed to the next planet, Lusch. A bit more swampy than the version of Lusch in the Core campaign, with some larger areas of swamp-looking ground. It looks quite nice.
[8:22 PM]
Level 4 was about capturing Hovercraft technology, but I didn't need it since the Arm gunplane, the Brawler, is still quite good
[8:23 PM]
I'm also using it now in level 5 where I've pretty much got my defenses and resources set and it's time to start harrassing things with my planes.
[8:23 PM]
Arm still seems easier so far, and I think the maps are a bit smaller too. Hopefully it'll remain doable to the end
[8:24 PM]
And that's it for this week!
[8:24 PM]
Namarie

Eonwe Valar08/09/2020
Sleep well :}
[8:24 PM]
New post coming. Think I got something going that I like.

Ar-Pharazon-V08/09/2020
Will check tomorrow!

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