Valar Guild

June 16, 2019 Sunday Meeting

5:00 P.M. Eastern time (-4 GMT aka 9 P.M. aka 21:00)
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by Varda.

Attending (and spoke): (7)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Marigold, Pallando, Varda (presiding)
    LotRO: Dis, Falco

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news:
Web:
Gaming:
    General reports
Tolkien:
    Topic: Fellowship fathers.
After-meeting:
    Jokes: from the Holy Grail to Dad jokes.
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting
(times are in Central from Varda's Discord, so add one hour for Eastern. Example: 4pm Central in the transcript is 5pm Eastern)

VardaToday at 4:00 PM
Aiya!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:00 PM
Aiya!
VardaToday at 4:01 PM
Phar! : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:01 PM
That's me!
ArienValarToday at 4:02 PM
Aiya :smiley:
VardaToday at 4:02 PM
Aiya Sunshine : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:02 PM
Aiya!
VardaToday at 4:05 PM

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Membership:
Happy Father's Day!
MarigoldToday at 4:06 PM
Aiya!
VardaToday at 4:07 PM
Aiya Marigold : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:07 PM
Aiya!
VardaToday at 4:08 PM
From Falco: [Kinship] Ljbelgmath: Tell everyone Howdy and Happy Fathers Day!
[Kinship] Ljbelgmath: I'm logging out for a bit.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:09 PM
Aiya Falco!
VardaToday at 4:09 PM
Lots of fathers in the guild. Here's hoping every one of them is having a great day!

Web:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:09 PM
Does it count to be a father of about a dozen WoW characters?
VardaToday at 4:10 PM
Thank you to Eonwe for keeping up the Games Site. : )
Only if they will bake cookies for you.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:10 PM
Heh, fair enough.
ArienValarToday at 4:10 PM
aiya Falco and rest :smiley: happy fathers day
VardaToday at 4:10 PM
(Since WoW has cooking, they might!)
LotRO has cooking too.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:11 PM
Getting it through the screen onto my plate might be a problem.
VardaToday at 4:11 PM
Pie!
ArienValarToday at 4:11 PM
we got a npc grandma who keeps cooking for all our characters ... does that count :O?
VardaToday at 4:11 PM
Maybe a virtual plate?
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:11 PM
Worth a shot.
VardaToday at 4:12 PM
A grandma might not count as a child for Father's Day, but could make yummies for the characters to give you?
Gaming:
From LotRO, Dis says hi!
[Kinship] Luethien: Greetings all!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:16 PM
Aiya!
VardaToday at 4:16 PM
And relayed Phar's reply to her. : )
Her computer fizzles out if she has a game and Discord up at the same time, but we can relay!

Gaming:

WoW:
The PvP Brawl: Deepwind Dunk begins June 11 and runs through Tuesday, June 18th.
This week's bonus event: World Quests.
Check out this week's hotfixes.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22933417/hotfixes-june-10-2019
    A new preview is out on the coming Pet Battle Dungeon: Stratholme.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23019229/preview-new-pet-battle-dungeon-stratholme
I remember that as a regular fighting instance name.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:20 PM
Stratholme, yes.
ArienValarToday at 4:20 PM
Aiya  Dis :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:20 PM
2 parts, I believe, linked through a gate but each with their own entrance.
Pet dungeon takes place in a special version of it, like the previous 3.
VardaToday at 4:21 PM
Ah, ok.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:21 PM
Original version will be visitable in Classic :wink:
VardaToday at 4:22 PM

Lord of the Rings Online:
Update 24.1 came out this week.
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?673419-Update-24-1-Release-Notes
    Update 24.1 Release Notes
    Here are the Release Notes for Update 24.1, released on Wednesday, June 12th.
    Of Special Note:
    Siege of Mirkwood arrives on the Legendary Worlds!
It was a big one.
I was expecting just a hotfix, but they added a lot of stuff.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:23 PM
Can't have bored players.
VardaToday at 4:23 PM
Right. : )

Eve news from Pallando:
(aka Debes)
DebesToday at 4:06 PM
Busy prepping a presentation I'll be giving at an official Eve event in a week
less than a week actually
:p
DebesToday at 4:07 PM
I will post stream details before it happens
I present sunday at 2pm est, I believe.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:25 PM
Looks like Pallando's not forgotten his cult-brewing ways.
VardaToday at 4:25 PM
DebesToday at 4:08 PM
sure, lemme find a link
https://webimg.ccpgamescdn.com/7lhcm73ukv5p/3diVKFgRw3PQva8jAYugXK/9d0d62c59c81e5f477f61b95108a57e5/image.png
DebesToday at 4:11 PM
14:00 on Sunday is mine
here's the full dev blog https://www.eveonline.com/article/pt1tt7/eve-invasion-world-tour-round-four-eve-north
    EVE Online
    EVE Invasion World Tour: Round Four - EVE North | EVE Online
    Take a look at this devblog for all you need to know about the next stop on the EVE Invasion World Tour - EVE North!
oh, we won't get livestreamed
it'll be recorded and put on youtube later
but there you go
Thank you for the news, Pallando!
DebesToday at 4:13 PM
yeah, we were originally told no, but then someone backed out and with 5 days to the deadline to submit our presentation we were told we were back on
so I'm at a panera bread with my partner for the presentation frantically typing it up
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:26 PM
No improv.
VardaToday at 4:26 PM
.endtransmission
You might see some improv, just recorded. ;  )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:27 PM
Not if they're typing it up!
VardaToday at 4:28 PM

For LotRO, here's the bunch that came into the kin this last week on our three servers:
Landroval:
Arien
Bregalad
Elwing
Eonwe
Fangorn
Lenwe
Nar
Thranduil
Varda

Ithil:
Arien
Dis
Falco
Fangorn
Varda

Anor:
Arien
Fangorn
Varda
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:29 PM
Always fun to look for the common names, though in Anor's case that's not too difficult.

VardaToday at 4:29 PM
Any other news? Valarite sightings?
Aye.
It costs nothing extra to be on all three, but it eats up gaming time.
Kind of like having more than one game to play, as most people do!
Any other games people would like to adver... tell about?
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:32 PM
Ehr, still playing WoW.. and Hearthstone, and Heroes of the Storm, and various browser stuff...
ArienValarToday at 4:33 PM
spotting Helm now and again of course [Note: WoW Europe]
VardaToday at 4:33 PM
Good to hear
ArienValarToday at 4:33 PM
and Fladrif on Bliz chat :smiley:
VardaToday at 4:33 PM
o good : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:34 PM
Ah, wasn't online to check, but I wondered if he had been.
ArienValarToday at 4:34 PM
last online 4 days ago
VardaToday at 4:36 PM
Thanks : )
Any other business, news, requests for invitations to various games etc?
Comments? : )
ArienValarToday at 4:37 PM
None relevant for now i think :smiley:
VardaToday at 4:40 PM
For the LotRO Ithil group. as of today we have 558 mithril coins saved up to buy our island. We're getting there!
On to:
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Tolkien!
For the topic, we'll want a list of who was in the Fellowship. Anyone want to type that list?
MarigoldToday at 4:41 PM
Volunteers
VardaToday at 4:41 PM
Go for it!
MarigoldToday at 4:42 PM
- Gandalf
- Aragorn
- Boromir
- Legolas
- Gimli
- Frodo
- Sam
- Merry
- Pippin
ArienValarToday at 4:42 PM
Bill the Pony
VardaToday at 4:42 PM
hehe
Very good!
Of those, who do we know became fathers? (maybe suspect)
MarigoldToday at 4:43 PM
Erm ... Aragorn, Sam, Merry, Pippin certainly ...
ArienValarToday at 4:43 PM
Aragorn Sam , Merry , Pippin
MarigoldToday at 4:43 PM
At least, I think Merry & Pippin
^^
ArienValarToday at 4:43 PM
Sam s first daughter was Elanor :smiley:
VardaToday at 4:44 PM
Aye to those. : )
(We suspect Bill.)
ArienValarToday at 4:44 PM
was it her who married a son of  Merry i think?
VardaToday at 4:44 PM
Aye, Goldilocks
The son was Faramir. : )
ArienValarToday at 4:45 PM
cool :smiley: nice name
VardaToday at 4:45 PM
um, have to check who Elanor married
Pippin married Diamond of Long Cleeve.
ArienValarToday at 4:46 PM
i suspect maybe Farmir son of Denethor became a father ? with Eowyn  .. but of course we dont know that
VardaToday at 4:46 PM
Merry married Estella Bolger.
Actually we do know about Faramir, son of Denethor.
He did marry Eowyn and had a son.
Their grandson was mentioned in the Prologue.  :smiley:
ArienValarToday at 4:47 PM
:smile:
VardaToday at 4:47 PM
That made Eowyn the Princess of Ithilien.  : )
ArienValarToday at 4:47 PM
nice : )
VardaToday at 4:48 PM
Elboron was Faramir and Eowyn's son.
Elboron was either the father or uncle of Barahir, the grandson mentioned earlier.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:49 PM
Right, back from afk, missed the easy answers already I see :wink:
VardaToday at 4:49 PM
Hey, you're good enough to handle the difficult stuff. ; )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:50 PM
maybe if I climb upstairs to get the books... :wink:
VardaToday at 4:51 PM
Elanor married Fastred of Greenholm
They had a son, Elfstan, and a daughter, Firiel.
(We get our exercise lugging books around!)
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:52 PM
Firiel sounds familiar.
VardaToday at 4:52 PM
Our hobbit buddies swiped a lot of names from their travel and reading. : )
Firiel married Arvedui Last-king.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:53 PM
Right. Gondorian princess who married prince of Arnor and was technically responsible for Aragorn's claim on Gondor.
VardaToday at 4:53 PM
Silmarien?
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:53 PM
Firiel :smiley:
VardaToday at 4:54 PM
ok  - we had a batch of those in his background. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:54 PM
Same Firiel as the one you mentioned just above.
Silmarien was the princess through whom Aragorn's line was descended from Elros, I think :smiley:
Actually, I know. I was reading the Line of Numenorean Kings yesterday.
VardaToday at 4:56 PM
Firiel and Arvedui brought the lines back together, lines of Anarion and Isildur, so you're right.
Yay for reading!
Tar-Elendil, 4th King of Numenor, had a daughter, Silmarien. She married Elatan.
Their son was Valandil.
Aragorn looked a lot in appearance like Valandil.
From Silmarien, we got the Lords of Andunie. (the good guys)
ok, I kind of wandered far afield.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:59 PM
From them came the line of the lords of Andunie, technically the elder line from Elros though female, when male succession still took precedence.
From them, Elendil and Aragorn descended and everyone in between :wink:
VardaToday at 4:59 PM
Thanks! Good digging there.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:01 PM
I always liked that detail. It gives a legitimacy to Elendil's line which can be argued to be even stronger than Pharazon's as heirs to the Edain.
VardaToday at 5:01 PM
I think JRRT did that on purpose. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:01 PM
Seems likely :wink:
VardaToday at 5:02 PM
What a concept.
Ok, so we seem to have covered the fathers of the Fellowship and Faramir who was almost one, and even Bill!
We have reached the hour. Feel free to keep digging around. I was going to ask about the fathers who fathered the Fellowship, but that can keep if people need to leave.
ArienValarToday at 5:03 PM
one of Tom Bombadils mares :O?
VardaToday at 5:03 PM
May-be.
ArienValarToday at 5:03 PM
or one of the Rivendell horses?
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:04 PM
I want to say Frodo son of Drogo, but now I'm in doubt because that's also the name of a Game of Thrones character. [Note: Frodo, son of Drogo is correct.]
VardaToday at 5:04 PM
Likely some Bree mares as well, and who knows along his travel home.
ArienValarToday at 5:04 PM
maybe who knows .. he ran back to Tom from Moria didn't he and and he probably gave him to the Bree stables
a shame we don't really learn of his fate
VardaToday at 5:05 PM
We do have some info on Bill's fate.
Bill rejoined Sam at Bree.
Bill took himself to Butterbur's stables.
He had a spell of protection laid on him by Gandalf in front of Moria.
ArienValarToday at 5:06 PM
ah yes i remember
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:06 PM
Wolves who tried to bite him broke their teeth?
ArienValarToday at 5:06 PM
or ran of scared :smiley:
VardaToday at 5:07 PM
Maybe they just ignored him as inedible?
It doesn't say, so we can play as we like with fan fic. : )
ArienValarToday at 5:08 PM
mmmh
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:08 PM
A blue-green fire sparked from his eyes, scaring them off.

VardaToday at 5:08 PM
the gavel comes trotting out, slamming a pair of coconut half-shells together
 the hammerpad laughs when it should have thunked
 hahahahhahaha!
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After-meeting!
Free chat
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:09 PM
Monty Python and the quest for the holy gavel.
ArienValarToday at 5:09 PM
hehe .. cheeky gavel :smiley:
VardaToday at 5:09 PM
You got it! Yay Phar!
ArienValarToday at 5:10 PM
The nights of the Holy Gavel :open_mouth:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:10 PM
Aah, so close.
VardaToday at 5:10 PM
Nice : )
ArienValarToday at 5:11 PM
uhm why did the picture go into jail ;)?
Because it was framed
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:12 PM
ba-dum-tish
VardaToday at 5:12 PM
That works. : )
ArienValarToday at 5:12 PM
giggles .. sorrry but while we are at it . we call those "dad jokes"
VardaToday at 5:12 PM
Perfect for today!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:13 PM
I may not technically be a dad, but still love dad jokes.
VardaToday at 5:13 PM
I think I'll go make supper and scroll back for this fun stuff. : )
ArienValarToday at 5:14 PM
very good and another thing  for laughing .. i ll put this in harbor tho because i has nothing what soever  got to do with Tolkien it  is just funy :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:15 PM
https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-dad-jokes-puns enjoy!
    Bored Panda
    Giedrė
    99 Funniest Dad Jokes
    Despite birthday clowns and stand-up comedians dominating the scene, we all know that the best jokesters are dads with their punny humor and groan-inducing quips.
    Although not everyone is a big fan of that type of comedy gold, there is a certain amount of appreciation any per...
VardaToday at 5:15 PM
Thanks!
ArienValarToday at 5:21 PM
https://www.facebook.com/BBCScotland/videos/1741395949223496/UzpfSTEwMDAwMjAyNTIyMTQ3MjoyMzQzMDEzODkyNDQyNzYy/
    Facebook
    BBC Scotland
    Burnistoun archive: Voice Activated Lift
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:49 PM
Personal gaming report!
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Right. 3 flashgames. For the first one I don't have the badges yet so I might end up mentioning it again later if it comes up as a badge fo the day.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:12 PM
Nevermind, just picked up the medium badge, should be fine :wink:

Pallando-ValarToday at 6:14 PM
@Ar-Pharazon-V just because we're typing it up doesn't make it not improv
we're just making this up
it'll go great
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:15 PM
hehe

ArienValarToday at 6:17 PM
Namarie Men :smiley:
and ladies and girl when you are lurking in the background
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:17 PM
namarie!
https://www.kongregate.com/games/EPGstudios/5-step-steve is the first game!  You play a cat on a mission to save a crew of cats on another planet, through a variety of puzzles. The key mechanic being that you can only move five steps between save points, so some clever planning is necessary. Various puzzles include ice, cloning machines, spikes, and other stuff.
    Kongregate
    5 Step Steve
    A crew of kittens need rescuing. Dozens of puzzles stand in your way. And you only have 5 steps to solve them.
Can be rather frustrating, but keep trying different solutions :smiley: And get all kittens and stars!

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:31 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/xWILKINx/dinogen-arena is the second game, an arena game with humans and dinosaurs! I've only done survival mode for the badge, but that's fun enough as well, defending against waves of dinosaurs. But in ranked mode you can level up, unlock new stuff, etc.
    Kongregate
    Dinogen Arena
    An intense top-down shooter featuring several game modes such as Deathmatch, Capture the Flag, Raptor Hunt, and more!
    TUTORIAL
    Learn the basics of Dinogen A...

Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:40 PM
https://www.kongregate.com/games/sigames/scgmd4 for the third game! A music rhythm game I might have linked before, but I needed a harder badge this time, so here it is :wink: Hit the arrow keys and 1-2-3-4 keys on the rhythm of the songs, collect stars, unlock more songs!
    Kongregate
    SCGMD4
    SCGMD is back!
    There are 55 achievements, 14 guitars, over 15 songs, and some extra hidden challenges!
    We hope you enjoy it!
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Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:51 PM
Blizzard gaming:
Heroes of the Storm:
2 levels got, up to 347! Dehaka to 9, and Thrall to 3: Got to play him during brawl again. Fun hero :smiley: Brawls went well, won all 3, though the third one was pretty close :smiley:
Hearthstone:
Pushing xp on all my classes once again. Several are already well on their way, due to long games played with them. Brawl this week is with random newly-improved mech decks, where the class you get is random, but the deck is set per class. Figuring out what each class I played was based around was quite interesting.
Started opening some packs that were piling up, and got 2 legendaries! Alextrasza from the classic set, and the shaman murloc class spell from the Un'goro set.
As a non-standard set, Un'goro cards won't see much use anymore, but still nice to have.
WoW:
Been pushing Uu'nat, the last boss of the Crucible of Storms, on heroic difficulty in our raids, and are consistently getting into phase 3. Best so far is 10% or so, but we're running out of space and out of alive players :wink: If we don't get it down this week, we'll go on raidbreak for a bit until patch 8.2, and then go in with the new feature of essences in our necklaces.
At which point we'll have 2 weeks to get the achievement before the new raid comes in.
Old raids: Dragon Soul successful! We finally got our last Blazing Drake from Deathwing, and are now done in that place for a bit. Plans for next time are a bit vague, though we did recently add the Mogushan Terrace mountfarm to our schedule, and may look into the last few drakes needed for a friend's drake achievement, which should be a lot easier to get than this particular drake. Apparently we did not end with the hardest :wink:
Weekly is world quests, always relaxed, since I usually do more than 20 in a week anyway.
Although, I did get the 1000 pet charms I needed for the Interdimensional Pet Portal, increasing my pet limit from 1500 to 2000. Which means I no longer have a place to spend more charms until I unlock another vendor, so I figured I might as well stop chasing pet charms and focus on other things. And so I did, which means pretty much doing less world quests overall. For now.
Expeditions going well too, got the Giggling Flame pet, and enough dubloons to buy the most expensive item, the Siltwing Albatross mount. Fun little bird mount, quite small, which looks funny when used by a moonkin or (presumably) a tauren. Next item I'm going for is only half as expensive, so the grind keeps going!
And finally, poked Arathi world quests and rares as well. Ended up with exactly enough service medals to buy a new heirloom before this Arathi cycle ended, so I got the Enchanted Warscroll. 3 more heirlooms to get for those. But more impressively, I got 2 new items from the rares themselves! A Syndicate mask toy, and a donkey mount :smiley: Donkey is a model of mount I've not seen before, with a special animation as if it's grazing. Looks odd on a stone street, but still :wink:
Only 2 more mounts and 2 more toys needed from Arathi until the collection's complete.
And that's my report for the week!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:39 PM
Namarie

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