April 28, 2019 Sunday Meeting
5:00
P.M. Eastern time (-5 GMT)
Discord:
Valar Guild/meeting_place
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Transcript work by Varda.
Attending (and
spoke): (4)
Discord:
Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Falco, Varda (presiding)
Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership news
Web
Gaming:
General reports.
Falco news.
Tolkien:
Topic: Returns of...
After-meeting:
Topic continues quite a while.
Flashgaming Reviews by
Ar-Pharazon.
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Before-meeting
(times are in Central from Varda's Discord, so add one hour for
Eastern. Example: 4pm Central in the transcript is 5pm Eastern)
VardaToday at 4:02 PM
Aiya : )
ArienVToday at 4:07 PM
aiya :smiley:
uh better late then never but then .. a maya comes never too late ..
nor does she come early .. She arrives exactly when she means to!
VardaToday at 4:08 PM
Right!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:10 PM
Aiya!
ArienVToday at 4:10 PM
Aiya Phari
VardaToday at 4:14 PM
Aiya Phar : )
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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Membership:
We are still here after all this time. You're all fantastic!
No spoilers may be given for Avengers: Endgame. ; )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:17 PM
Oh, if you want, I found a video yesterday, summing up the previous
marvel movies up to endgame, sorted by main character.
VardaToday at 4:17 PM
That could be fun. Go ahead and link. I've seen them all but Endgame
and would enjoy that.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:18 PM
I've seen less than half of them, I'm sure, and it certainly was a
fun watch
VardaToday at 4:18 PM
Others would too, likely.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eMW0TKNlpQ
YouTube
Screen Junkies
The COMPLETE MCU Recap | CRAM IT (Avengers:
Endgame Edition)
VardaToday at 4:19 PM
Thank you. : )
FalcoToday at 4:19 PM
Aiya!!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:19 PM
Aiya!
VardaToday at 4:19 PM
Aiya Falco : )
Getting a request to do invites on Anor [LotRO legendary server]. If
anyone else needs some, let me know and we'll get to everyone.
Just let me know which server. It will be Fainan doing invites on
any of them.
Please say something in our Valar channel so as to make it easy to
click on your name (spelling not a problem then!).
This is one of the uses of meetings. You can collar an officer and
put them to work for you!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:24 PM
A bit like you're a mother bird visiting the nest and finding all
the little birdies crying for attention.
VardaToday at 4:28 PM
Glad to be of service. They say feeling useful is a major part of
happiness. ; )
If any of you want to pitch in to help work on things for the guild,
just let us know what you'd like to do. : )
Maybe pick a Vala or Maia to help, or do something of your own
Could be crafting, articles, art. In-game or in the site.
Thank you to Fangorn for a lovely plate of supper!
Any other membership news?
We have great news for Falco when we get to gaming. : )
(spoiler)
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Web:
I've been tweaking some old things on the articles and authors that
have long needed it, and much more of this sort of maintenance needs
done and will be.
Would love to be putting up your new stuff! Much more fun.
Eonwe is being amazing about putting up news on the Games Site for
us.
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Gaming:
First thing,
ArienVToday at 4:34 PM
Aiya Falco
VardaToday at 4:34 PM
Lord of the Rings:
Falco, would you like to tell your news?
FalcoToday at 4:35 PM
I’m Back!!!!
VardaToday at 4:35 PM
Huzzah!!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:35 PM
Yay!
ArienVToday at 4:36 PM
welcome back :smile:
FalcoToday at 4:37 PM
Thanks! Haven’t played much as I have been checking out 27
different characters! Some damage but nothing unrecoverable.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:37 PM
Good to hear!
VardaToday at 4:37 PM
Is there any help we can give?
FalcoToday at 4:38 PM
Nope playing will replace the lost items. Nothing that
can’t be replaced!
VardaToday at 4:38 PM
Excellent. : )
Main thing is we have Falco able to play again. : )
FalcoToday at 4:40 PM
:smiley:
VardaToday at 4:42 PM
In other LotRO news (and Arien is adding characters on Ithil right
now):
Now going: LotRO's 12th Anniversary.
http://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/12th-anniversary
The Lord of the Rings Online
12th Anniversary
Servers will be down Monday, April 29th 8:00am - 12:00pm Eastern for
Update 23.5.1.
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?672554-Downtime-Notice-8-00-AM-12-00-PM-Eastern-(-4-GMT)-Monday-April-29th
Downtime Notice: 8:00 AM - 12:00 PM Eastern (-4
GMT) Monday, April...
The LOTRO Game Servers will be brought down on
Monday, April 29th from 8:00 AM - 12:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) for an
update to the game.
Click here for the Release Notes. Thanks for your
patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon!
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?672553-Update-23-5-1-Release-Notes
Update 23.5.1 Release Notes
Here are the Release Notes for Update 23.5.1,
released on Monday, April 29th.
News and Notes:
Items
Being on three servers is pretty tough, but no worse really than
playing multiple games such as adding in SC2 and Eve, maybe.
World of WarCraft:
This week's Bonus Event: World Quests.
I should say last week's. Assuming they are still going today,
though.
Phar, when do they switch if you know?
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:50 PM
Tuesdays in the US, wednesdays in Europe.
So yep, still going :smiley:
In fact I'm not hitting those 20 WQs for the quest until tomorrow.
VardaToday at 4:50 PM
Thanks!
See this week's hotfixes.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/22933417/hotfixes-april-25-2019
World of Warcraft
Hotfixes: April 25, 2019 - WoW
Here you'll find a list of hotfixes that address
various issues related to World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:51 PM
Oh, yesterday was my own WoW anniversary, before I forget
:wink:
ehr, day before yesterday
VardaToday at 4:52 PM
yay! Grats, Phar. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 4:52 PM
14 years maining the same druid!
VardaToday at 4:52 PM
Woot!
Diablo 3:
Patch 2.6.5 is on the PTR.
ArienVToday at 4:52 PM
thats a long time grats :smiley:
VardaToday at 4:53 PM
https://us.diablo3.com/en/blog/22933131/patch-265-ptr-preview-4-22-2019
Diablo III
Patch 2.6.5 PTR Preview
Summary: Season 17 is rapidly approaching, and
we’ve got a bundle of item changes, new Torment levels, and quality
of life changes for you to check out before the Season of Nightmares
casts its dark shadow.
StarCraft 2:
Now out: Patch 4.8.6.
https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/22938944
StarCraft II
StarCraft II Official Game Site
Wage war across the galaxy with three unique and
powerful races.
StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from
Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac.
Heroes of the Storm:
A new patch is on the PTR.
https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-us/blog/22933140/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-april-22-2019-2019-4-22/
Heroes of the Storm
Legendary heroes and villains from Warcraft,
StarCraft and Diablo are summoned to the Nexus. Choose your hero and
prepare to fight in Heroes of the Storm!
Overwatch:
A new feature is available. Check it out in the blog Introducing the
Overwatch Workshop.
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/22938941/introducing-the-overwatch-workshop
Overwatch
Overwatch is Blizzard’s team shooter for PC and
consoles.
Choose a hero from a diverse roster of soldiers,
scientists, adventurers, and oddities, each with their own unique
set of abilities.
Bend time, defy physics, and unleash an array of
extraordinary powers in concert wi...
That's the general gaming news that we have.
Does anyone have anything else? These games or others such as Eve
Online?
We know Elrond is playing Eve right now, good luck to him!
As for guild folk seen the past week, here's the LotRO gang
that are in the kin and showed up:
Landroval:
Arien
Dis
Eonwe
Falco
Fangorn
Mirabella
Nar
Varda
Ithil:
Arien
Dis
Falco
Fangorn
Varda
Anor:
Arien:
Dis
Fangorn
Varda
StarCraft 2:
Eowyn
Faramir
Fangorn
Probably others of you like Phar too. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:04 PM
Starcraft 2? Nope, not right now
VardaToday at 5:04 PM
Okie dokie.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:04 PM
Waiting for the next war chest I suppose.
VardaToday at 5:05 PM
We just finished adding Falco's batch of characters to the kin in
Landroval server. : )
FalcoToday at 5:05 PM
VardaToday at 5:05 PM
He has one of our rare 120's there. : )
ArienVToday at 5:05 PM
grats
and welcome back
VardaToday at 5:05 PM
(I have the other on Landroval cough)
FalcoToday at 5:06 PM
lol
Thanks
VardaToday at 5:06 PM
Dis and Falco have a batch of top level characters on Ithil.
Falco has a lot of them.
So congrats to you both, and welcome back once again. : )
If anyone has a Tolkien topic, feel free to suggest it.
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Tolkien!
The idea of returns, of coming back after adversity is in Tolkien's
works too. Sometimes after almost succumbing to dark forces.
What returns can we think of? And from what did they come back?
This can be from any of Tolkien's works and is an open book
question. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:10 PM
Thinking...
Well. There's Gandalf, who literally returned after a mortal defeat.
VardaToday at 5:11 PM
Very good
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:11 PM
And then took up a more active role against Sauron.
VardaToday at 5:11 PM
Better than ever!
ArienVToday at 5:13 PM
Bilbo made a sort of return ..
VardaToday at 5:13 PM
Aye - which are you thinking of?
ArienVToday at 5:13 PM
just before the dwarves went or the quest for Erebor
first he refused the advdenture outright .. at the tea /
dinner/meeting with the dwarves he was first curios but nearly
pulled out and collapsed
so much that he forgot he signed the contract with the dwarves
just as Gandalf turned up he ran after them swithout cloak or
hankerchief
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:17 PM
Imagine if he needed to blow his nose!
VardaToday at 5:17 PM
Thorin's sleeve was worried.
ArienVToday at 5:19 PM
Hehe i guess .. at least he had no runny nose like i at the
moment alas .. whistles innocently
VardaToday at 5:19 PM
Bilbo managed to give up the Ring without turning into Gollum and
chasing it the rest of his life.
gives you a large, lacy handkerchief
ArienVToday at 5:20 PM
*takes chingerly * thank yees
gingerly
VardaToday at 5:21 PM
(It's clean!)
ArienVToday at 5:21 PM
\o/
VardaToday at 5:21 PM
DelandriaToday at 5:21 PM
Nope all is quiet on the Eve front. :
(That's Celebrian)
ArienVToday at 5:22 PM
right .. Frodo came back after Shelobs poisienous sting and
captivity from the orcs
VardaToday at 5:22 PM
And kept on going on his mission. Aye!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:22 PM
Even after thinking the mission was lost, until Sam convinced him
otherwise.
ArienVToday at 5:23 PM
and fulfilled with kind help from Gollum
VardaToday at 5:23 PM
Likely the Ring forced Gollum into that convenient fall, after
Frodo's command much earlier. (Still wish the movie had used a
voice-over during that as Gollum gets closer and closer to the
edge.)
But you've all heard that a zillion times from me. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:24 PM
Well, in the movie he went over with Frodo, so not quite the same as
being guided by the Ring.
VardaToday at 5:25 PM
Aye.
Speaking of returns, one of the books had that in its name.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:27 PM
"The king's back!"
VardaToday at 5:27 PM
lol - right
After a very long time, the north and south kingdoms were reunited
and made safer, more prosperous.
We trust Aragorn and Arwen etc raised Eldarion right, since Aragorn
said he had become a man full ripe for kingship, so there's two
generations of decent, long-lived kings.
For Silmarillion fans, how about Osse?
Osse was the only Maia we know of that came back from Morgoth. It
left him cranky and prone to causing storms, but he returned to
Manwe.
Feel free to add to the list as you think of them. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:34 PM
Hmm, I did not remember that :smiley:
VardaToday at 5:34 PM
the gavel hooks a rubberband slingshot to the hammerrpad that
looks on incredulously
ArienVToday at 5:34 PM
ah yes he served Morgoth for a bit
VardaToday at 5:34 PM
It pulls back with help from other hammers
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:34 PM
I was thinking maybe you were referring to returning with the
island.. which he ultimately didn't.. or something.
VardaToday at 5:35 PM
zonnnnk
ArienVToday at 5:35 PM
he was promised the powesrs of Ulmo
VardaToday at 5:35 PM
the hammerpad laughs and sends it flying back to the shelf
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After-meeting!
ArienVToday at 5:35 PM
what a wonderful , agile hammer :smiley:
gavel eve n
VardaToday at 5:36 PM
A point about the island, aye. Didn't want to lose the water-loving
elves from Middle-earth and only towed the island ship partway.
They're maaaaagic.
Galadriel didn't like the word magic, as she associated it with evil
sorcery, morgul magic.
But she had her own magic, of the kind that served the land and
protected her folk.
And a form of telepathy.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:39 PM
Magic can be such a nice word.
ArienVToday at 5:42 PM
interesting that in Lotro there are actually no mages as such ..
although when comparing the classes i think Runekeepers come closest
:smiley: , they are blasty and use Frost, Fire and Lightning
(arcane?) as damage
VardaToday at 5:43 PM
Aye - rune-keepers, lore-masters
ArienVToday at 5:43 PM
while Minstrels and Lorekeepers use the subltler magic of music and
language
a bit like warlocks without drawing on the pain or lifeforce
of others
VardaToday at 5:45 PM
Not evil, but using knowledge of the meaning of rune words and of
nature.
Lore-masters aren't quite druids.
ArienVToday at 5:45 PM
aye
where come in the Beornings ^^
VardaToday at 5:45 PM
Shape-changers
ArienVToday at 5:46 PM
which remind me of Guardian and Feral druids
but also have the healing aspect
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:46 PM
Also a sort of magic, druidic magic :smiley:
VardaToday at 5:46 PM
Most like the bear sark wearers of the North.
Bear sark, berserkers.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:51 PM
Funny where those things come from.
VardaToday at 5:51 PM
JRRT was fond of Norse mythology.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:52 PM
I meant the term "berserk(er)"
VardaToday at 5:52 PM
Agreed. It was from the Norse or at least Scandinavian traditions.
Pretty much up Phar's alley of expertise, I think.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:55 PM
Is it?
I'm Dutch, not Scandinavian :stuck_out_tongue:
VardaToday at 5:55 PM
Heh, guess not. I was thinking of archaelogy, old civilizations.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:55 PM
Oh. Right. Well. Never did look into Norse civilization much.
VardaToday at 5:55 PM
Ah, ok.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:56 PM
The bits I remember were are mostly a bit of greek and middle
eastern stuff.
Fragments of Egyptian and Latin American.
VardaToday at 5:56 PM
Far Harad maybe : )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:56 PM
Maybe :smile:
ArienVToday at 5:57 PM
we almost got a perfect example in WoW in the Kvaldir
and that lot :)#
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:57 PM
ah yes, the Vrykul!
ArienVToday at 5:58 PM
the Vyrkul yes :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:58 PM
Odyn, Thorim, Loken...
That entire Northrend pantheon.
ArienVToday at 5:58 PM
look at the houses, the weapans and the way they buried their dead
their belief in Helheim and Vallahalla
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:58 PM
Freya, Helya..
Odyn even has 2 ravens :wink:
ArienVToday at 5:59 PM
and the way the ships look :smiley:
Viking boats those :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 5:59 PM
Yep!
Even the dragon motif comes back in places, Utgarde comes to mind.
As in the viking ships' prows, I mean.
ArienVToday at 6:00 PM
quite an interesting culture by the way and far more than the
bloodthirsty barbarians we make them out to be nowadays hehe
Indeed
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:01 PM
There's always more room for sophistication when you're in a
safe spot to retrospect...
as in about a thousand years later :stuck_out_tongue:
VardaToday at 6:01 PM
All safe and comfortable in our houses at peace.
ArienVToday at 6:03 PM
they didnt really choose that raiding life .. Norway and Sweden
where they lived were quite cold and not that fertil other than for
the more hardy plants like potatoes or swede roots (who would have
thoiught :smiley: )
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:04 PM
A bit like the Greyjoys in Game of Thrones.
ArienVToday at 6:04 PM
but they needed to pay their taxes to their overlord and feed
their families which means they had to trade and needed money for
that
aye
B ut yes it is that time yawns
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:07 PM
Yep, past midnight for you, past 1 for me.
ArienVToday at 6:08 PM
Namarie , my friends, have fun and sleep well when you get to it
:smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:08 PM
Namarie!
VardaToday at 6:08 PM
Namarie, Arien!
6:08 pm here.
Rest well or at least fast.
ArienVToday at 6:08 PM
thank you :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 6:29 PM
Well, let's start the personal gaming report!
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:18 PM
Right, sorry, got carried away in one...
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Flashgaming:
https://www.bubblebox.com/play/4500/emperors-on-ice.htm
is the first game! More direct link rather than the onemorelevel one
where it doesn't seem to load. You play a team of penguins on an
iceberg and have to take out opposing penguins with snowballs,
rugbyballs and missiles, upgrading after each mission. A bit like
worms, perhaps.
Play Emperors on Ice - free on Bubblebox.com
Emperors on Ice - Aim and shoot to defend your
territory.
Nice piratey theme as well.
http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/who_stole_my_bone
is a silly, short dialogue game where you help a rather
unintelligent dog find his missing bone. Gets slightly dark, and the
dog's not always very polite. But still a lot of humor in it
:smiley:
Who Stole My Bone? - OneMoreLevel.com
and for the third.. hrmmm... let's give you http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/hangman_adventure
which is a cute hangman game with knights, dragons and candy. Gather
up awards by making it through word after word with as few wrong
guesses as possible.
Hangman Adventure - OneMoreLevel.com
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Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 7:35 PM
Blizzard gaming:
Diablo 3:
I think I'll skip next season. The new reward is for chapter 8 this
time, which I've never managed to get, and chapter 4 reward is
a pet I already have. A bit sad, but I guess it leaves time for
other stuff.
Heroes of the Storm:
From 342 to 343, with yet another level for D.Va. It helped that I
got to play her for 2 of the 3 brawls. And with the third playing
Hammer, it was actually rather fun, and we won all 3 games :smiley:
Hearthstone:
Interesting brawl, with decks used in a recent championship. Part of
the challenge was finding out what each deck was based on and
how to use it, and hope your opponent is at least as unfamiliar with
his :wink:
Classes edging closer to next level. If not next week, then the week
after!
WoW:
In the Crucible raid, we got the second boss down on normal
difficulty, completing the short raid. Some tactics had been altered
between the raids, and we actually got it in one attempt... so it
must have helped!
In doing so, I got the best guardian tank trinket as well, so yay!
In Dazar'alor, still struggling with heroic mekkatorque. But we're
going to devote the entire next reset to bringing him down, as it
really does just need practice.
From the Pandaria raids, one more pet for me, the little stone dog,
Stoneclaw.
All we are missing pets from now is the Heart of Fear raid, where I
still need 2. If nothing else, at least it'll take less time :wink:
Since late in the Draenor expansion, a few years ago, I've been
collecting inn-recruits every week in an attempt to get the full
collection. Still about one and a half year to go, but this week I
finally got one of the most famous followers, Fargo Flintlocke!
Originally from a WoW webcomic, he was later inserted into Cataclysm
(after his creator had been hired by Blizzard) and his entire crew
from the comic had been included as possible inn-recruits.
So now I've got the dwarf himself, and missing only one of his team.
Shouldn't take too long I'm sure...? :wink:
Got 2 more pets from expeditions this week, too! A snapper turtle,
and a thunderscale whelpling. Whelpling is a recolor of the
Stormborne whelp from Stormheim in Legion, and shares the same cute,
luminescent-eyed, chubby little model. Nice unexpected addition to
the collection.
And finally, lots more world quests and rep gathering! Weekly is
world quests, which is always nice since I usually get it while
doing my normal questing. As a result of the questing I'm now over
400 charms for the next pet, picked up the moonkin pet Ragepeep from
an Arathi rare quest, and got the violet abyssal eel from the
Storm's Wake faction, the paragon reward. I'm now only missing 2
paragon rewards from BfA, which are both toys. Should come around
eventually!
Oh, and service medals from world quests going well too, only about
100 more for the next toy reward :smiley:
And that's my report for the week!
VardaToday at 8:03 PM
Thank you, Phar.
Ar-Pharazon-VToday at 8:10 PM
namarie!
VardaToday at 8:50 PM
Namarie
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