Valar Guild

August 5, 2018 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC/GMT - 5)
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by
Varda.

Attending (and spoke): (8)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Celebrian, Elrond, Eonwe, Eowyn, Fangorn, Varda (presiding)

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership:
Web:  
    New art: model and competitions by DeepGroover-(T)
Gaming:
    General gaming report by Eonwe et aliud.
    Communities in WoW, one is up for Valarites.
Tolkien:
    Topic: In the Hobbit book, what pushed Bilbo into letting the dwarves know about the Ring?
After-meeting:
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon
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Before-meeting
(times are in Central from Varda, so add one hour for Eastern)

VardaLast Sunday at 3:57 PM
Aiya : )  3 minutes to go!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 3:57 PM
Aiya!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:01 PM
Looks like time. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
Arien poked, despite her presence in the channel
VardaLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
Thanks : )
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
hey hey
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
Aiya!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
Aiya Sunshine : )
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
Aiya all
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
Heya all.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:03 PM
Aiya Eonwe
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:03 PM
Aiya Eonwe
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:03 PM
Aiya!
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VardaLast Sunday at 4:04 PM
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Membership:
TreebeardLast Sunday at 4:05 PM
Hello 
VardaLast Sunday at 4:05 PM
Aiya Fangorn 
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:05 PM
its a Fangorn
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:05 PM
Heya
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:06 PM
aiya  Fangorn
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:06 PM
Aiya Fangorn!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:06 PM
And there's our Discord roster for the start of the meeting, yay! : )
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Web:
Eonwe has been adding in game info on the Games Site on days that aren't just Sunday, so feel free to check there for info.
Nothing new added to the Tolkien Site this week.
[Note: later during the meeting updated art for DeepGroover-(T) and discussed some of what he's doing.]
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Gaming:
LotRO:
has the Yule festival running, Frostbluff, from July 31-Aug 7
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
in the middle of summer
VardaLast Sunday at 4:09 PM
We needed to cool down. ; P
Kinnies showing in LotRO this week:
Arien
Bregalad
Dis
Fangorn
Gorlim
Lenwe
Nar
Orome
Varda
and for the main part of the gaming report, we have Eonwe and his Games Site. Take it away, Eonwe!
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:10 PM
Thanks.

In Games Site news, I've put up the WoW Basics page that reflects the state of WoW up to Battle for Azeroth: http://valarguild.org/gaming/world-of-warcraft/basics/battle-for-azeroth
If I've missed something I'm sure you WoW players will let me know :}
I even updated it last night reflecting the change to PvP servers.

World of Warcraft:
The Kirin Tor Tavern Crawl was this past week, and this week's bonus event is Pet Battles.
Next week's Bonus event should be Burning Crusade Timewalking.
The PvP Brawl: Arathi Blizzard will be going next week as well.
ElrondLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
Aiya all
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
The Darkmoon Faire is going this week already, so if you need something from there, go get it.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
Aiya Elrond : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
Darkmoon Faire has a new toy for 50 tickets, go get it!
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
There's plenty from Blizzard to check out this week, so here's a list:
Watch Warbringers: Sylvanas (Or complete Part 2 of the War of Thorns and see it)
Experience the War of the Thorns: Chapter 2 � Now Live!
Mark Your Calendars�The Battle Is On!
Battle for Azeroth: Tiragarde Sound Visitor�s Guide
Battle for Azeroth Preview: Closer to the Heart of Azeroth
Watch the New Cinematic: �Old Soldier�
CelebrianLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
Howdy
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:15 PM
Aiya!
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:16 PM
And of course go check out this week's hotfixes.
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:16 PM
Aiya Celebrian
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:16 PM

Starcraft 2:
VardaLast Sunday at 4:16 PM
Aiya Celebrian
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:16 PM
nice work on the WoW basics Eonwe
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:16 PM
Check out the versus maps for Season 3 2018.
There's also a preview for the Warchest for Season 3.
Thanks Arien :}

Heroes of the Storm:
See what's in Development, including a new hero. 
    The Scarlet Crusade has made it to the Nexus via High Inquisitor Whitemane.

Hearthstone:
Update 12.0 is out.
Also available to check out: The Boomsday Project: Lab Logs Part 3 is out.

Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:18 PM
Starcraft II warchest starts in a few days, btw.

cenedraLast Sunday at 4:19 PM
Aiya, everyone. This is Eowyn.  I am going to play some Starcraft II with Fangorn.
Just dropping in to say hi.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:19 PM
Aiya Eowyn : )  Happy hunting, you two!

Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:19 PM
One note as well that I meant to make last week but didn't make it.

Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:19 PM
Aiya Eowyn!
TreebeardLast Sunday at 4:20 PM
Yay us 

Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:21 PM
Since Blizzard has introduced Communities in WoW, I went ahead and made us one, so if having a character in that to communicate across any realm in the US region appeals to any members playing WoW on other servers, let me know.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
Thank you
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
Hmm. Maybe Arien should set one up for EU....
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
We also have a group so we can communicate across Blizzard games if that appeals to anyone, if that's easier for anyone than just having Discord up, hehe.
CelebrianLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
Me and Elrond play WOW
VardaLast Sunday at 4:22 PM
That plus Discord, yay
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:23 PM
can Europe and us communicate in the community feature?
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:23 PM
Not that I know of.
We'd need to be able to invite each other first, for example.
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:24 PM
It doesn't sound like it, no.
It's separated by region.
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:24 PM
i can set up a community though in Europe if you want
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:25 PM
Well,  you're in my guild, and we have a channel, but I think you play on other servers besides Argent Dawn, so might be useful?
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:25 PM
If there are enough Valar Guild members playing WoW over there that want to communicate through that.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:26 PM
Might help them get together, or at least say hi. And they are also welcome to use Discord wherever they may be.
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:26 PM
Aye.
They also stripped some abilities from Guilds doing their transition to their new system.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:28 PM
(note, you can access the old interface with the /guildroster command)
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:28 PM
Menel used to play on Lightbringer but  i havent seen him for a while ven in Battlenet and i am not sure what happened to Eol
VardaLast Sunday at 4:29 PM
Aragorn? Helm?
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:29 PM
ah Menel shows online last 2 days ago
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 4:29 PM
Anyway, I'll end my gaming news by saying that if anyone in the US region playing WoW wants a character in the Valar Guild community, and they can get onto WoW right now to do so, I'll see if I can throw out a couple of invites. I can also throw invites out for the Valar Guild Group if that's appealing. Just let me know which one you want.
Send me a whisper here.

Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:30 PM
Oh, I've got a small mention which I was reminded of by your basic wow section
Blizzard, it seems, has been working with WoW youtubers on a series of guides to World of Warcraft, starting with what it is, and will continue with features and mechanics etc.
For English, starting with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnFW1GteSEI
    YouTube
    World of Warcraft
    What is World of Warcraft? - New & Returning Player Guides by Bellular
So if you're trying to get people interested, it'll be a good series to keep an eye on

Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 4:33 PM
Aiya
VardaLast Sunday at 4:33 PM
Aiya Pallando
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 4:33 PM
Just got back from a weekend in the woods
Eve meetup
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:33 PM
Aiya Pallando!
VardaLast Sunday at 4:34 PM
How elvish of you, in the woods. Or Rangery. : )
Sounds fantastic.
Are we done on the WoW news?
Pallando, would you like to tell a bit about the Eve goings-ons?
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:36 PM
Aiya Pallando
VardaLast Sunday at 4:36 PM
We seem to have lost our Blue Wizard. Did Saruman haul him out East while we weren't looking? [Note: the return of Pallando later with news.]
Sounds like he had an amazing weekend, anyway. : )
Any other gaming, business, news, suggestions, comments?
You can also bring it up later if you think of something.
On to
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Tolkien!
Here's a question for you all.
In the Hobbit book, what pushed Bilbo into letting the dwarves know about the Ring?
(yes, this is open book)
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:40 PM
...If question is not answered by the time I finish Karazhan, I'll find the book.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:41 PM
heh
Some trivia whilst folks are digging this out:
Attercop, Lob, and Cob are words for spider, from Old and Middle English
Eddercop is modern Norwegian for spider.
Tomnoddy is a foolish or stupid person, according to the Oxford English dictionary.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Is that a clue to the answer?
As in, something with the spiders?
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
uhm getting to steal something of smaug it was i thinkj?
VardaLast Sunday at 4:43 PM
Could be, but I just found it online and thought it was interesting.
He did use the Ring around Smaug, yes, but this was not the first the dwarves had heard of it.
No other guesses? Are we flipping book pages?
I'll wait if you're still digging.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:50 PM
Hmm. Was it at the wine barrels?
VardaLast Sunday at 4:51 PM
Bilbo did use the ring in the Halls of Thranduil, but this was not the first time the dwarves heard of it.
He was much more secretive in the movies.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 4:51 PM
Really? I thought they were impressed by his stealthiness in the halls.
VardaLast Sunday at 4:52 PM
Then they should have remembered what happened with, yes, you had it right that it could be a clue, after the spider rescue.
Bilbo lured the spiders away from the dwarves and cut them loose, but they were still woozy. They fought off a lot of spiders and killed many, but were tiring too much for the next attack.
Reluctantly, Bilbo worked with the dwarves on his plan so that he attacked invisibly.
Afterwards they wanted to hear the whole story in detail, before being distracted by hunger.
Enjoy reading the whole thing in the Hobbit "Flies and Spiders"!
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:55 PM

VardaLast Sunday at 4:55 PM
A bit much to type it all, passing the "fair use" rules, and a treat to read.
The movies had somewhat clouded my memory of the event, so it was interesting for that as well.
That's my topic done for tonight. Did anyone else have any other Tolkienesque goodies to mention?

Oh, and I will say that DeepGroover-(T) is competing with his models this weekend in the Nationals. : )
He has posted on Facebook.
He took a first place. : )
ArienVLast Sunday at 4:57 PM
Good luck for him
and congratulations
VardaLast Sunday at 4:58 PM
He said "one of my entries was chosen to photograph for Fine Scale Modeler magazine again."
Ahh, it 's one we have on our site: Baerkrom
VardaLast Sunday at 5:00 PM
I only have the starting model on the site. Now we can add the final!
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/art/gallery/DeepGroover/Baerkrom/Baerkrom.htm
    Baerkrom
    Photos of model made and painted by DeepGroover.
for Facebook folks:
https://www.facebook.com/randy.pavatte?hc_ref=ARQqemEfTVtkbeHZgLIfcEzsuCbd9lMoysn5tg_sljNSwR-lXIwbUOtcnXlEnqNp_Lw&fref=nf

here's the model
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216783747485591&set=p.10216783747485591&type=3&theater
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This one took first place:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216801487569082&set=a.10205901452075007.1073741825.1220035571&type=3&theater
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See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
Can anyone see these?
the hammer marches to the hand
colors decorate the hammer
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:04 PM
hmm i cant see this link there
VardaLast Sunday at 5:05 PM
thump
the hammer returns proudly
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After-meeting!
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:05 PM
probably you  have to have him as friend
VardaLast Sunday at 5:05 PM
Sorry to hear that. Ok.
I've only known him since I was in Junior High, so aye, definitely have him down as a friend.
This is free chat time, have fun!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:08 PM
grats to DeepGroover!
VardaLast Sunday at 5:10 PM
Namarie!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:10 PM
Namarie!
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:10 PM
Namareie and enjoy your sunday
Eonwe ValarLast Sunday at 5:17 PM
OK ladies and gents, I must be off. Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:17 PM
Namarie!
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:17 PM
Namarie Eonwe
VardaLast Sunday at 5:18 PM
ahh here
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:18 PM
yeeks, that was a nasty Karazhan

VardaLast Sunday at 5:18 PM
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/art/gallery/DeepGroover/Baerkrom/Baerkrom_Aug1_2018.jpg

Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:18 PM
255 gold repairs

hmm, he looks intimidating
VardaLast Sunday at 5:19 PM
Loading it into the website

Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:20 PM
hi
sorry, wasn't quite home, was returnign the rental car
VardaLast Sunday at 5:21 PM
Aiya, welcome back : )
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:22 PM
Aiya ta
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:22 PM
about 50 nerds (and two game developers from CCP)  gathered in the woods of upstate new york for 3 days
was a little rainy thursday and friday, but we fought through it
saturday was great fun though
had a bonfire with a jet of flame 20ft high
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:24 PM
what did you do?
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:24 PM
poker (I got 3rd)
eve triva
star realms (draft card game) tournament
VardaLast Sunday at 5:24 PM
What a bonfire! : )
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:24 PM
sounds great fun :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:25 PM
visible from space :wink:
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:25 PM
human foosball
that got pretty violent
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:27 PM
Everyone tied to large sticks?
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:27 PM
not quite
that might have reduced the injury potential, though
it was a wooden box with walls a little over chest high
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:27 PM
For next time!
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:28 PM
then there were 2x4s as crossbars
on the 2x4s were tubes of pvc with paint on them
set up like a foosball table, with a yellow goalie, then 2 green forwards, then 3 yellow midfielders, then 3 green midfielders, then 2 yellow forwards, then the green goalie
thing is, they were close enough that say, the yellow forwards could reach backwards with their feet into the green midfielder line
and also we were kicking the ball pretrty hard
it went out of the box about as often as it stayed in :p
one kid got it right in the face, and another one got a real solid kick to his shin when fighting for the ball
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:33 PM
not bad for a bunch of nerds :wink:
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:33 PM
:smile:
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:37 PM
gladl you had fun :smiley:
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:37 PM
5 years of having fun
next year should be even better
we've found a great venue
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:42 PM
(in space?)
VardaLast Sunday at 5:42 PM
I'll come to that one. : )
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:42 PM
sorry, that was poorly woorded
the venue we fdound this year is great, and I have high hopes for next year because of it
VardaLast Sunday at 5:42 PM
Sounds like the woods were great.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:42 PM
ah :smiley:

VardaLast Sunday at 5:43 PM
Namarie gang! Just had to hear that news. : )
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:44 PM
Namarie!
Pallando-ValarLast Sunday at 5:45 PM
Namarie
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:47 PM
Namarie :smiley:
I am going to head of f to bed as well .. falling asleep here ^^
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:48 PM
Also Namarie!
ArienVLast Sunday at 5:48 PM
Namarie all :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 5:48 PM
May end up giving my gaming report to an empty room... but gotta finish this raid first

Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 6:56 PM
Gaming report!
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 7:03 PM

Flashgaming:
https://www.kongregate.com/games/Diamonax/running-round is the first game! Simple-graphics running game, run in a circle along a track, jumping when necessary to avoid falling or bumping into obstacles.
    Kongregate
    Running Round
    An epic minimalist platformer in which you run around in circles. Can you reach the end?

http://www.freewebarcade.com/game/kabeyoke/ is the second game, time your moving through moving walls, try not to get killed too much because you lose time by dying. If you make it, the more time you have left, the more stars you get, and the better the ending.
https://www.kongregate.com/games/CrounchyBrothers/a-knots-story is the last game! Only a demo of the first chapter, but cute. Platformer where you play a kitten. Make your way across the levels, gather 5 items in each level as a secret. There's also something about getting knots in your tail, but that doesnt'really start until the end, I'm sure it makes more sense in the full story.
    Kongregate
    A knots story
    Here#39s a sneak preview of our fresh new game quotKnots storyquot.
    The demo introduce you to Mileo an apparently normal kitten.
    The demo represent 2/3 of the chapt...

Blizzard gaming:
Hearthstone:
Second class to 55, the warrior, getting me the first golden chillwind yeti. One of the more overall useful basic minions, with solid stats and no side abilities, I've got it in quite a few of my decks.
Tavern brawl was decks with random spells from all classes, with each spell cast summoning a random minion of the same mana cost. Random random random, always fun :smiley:
Got a new legendary too, quite lucky lately! Arugal, a mage legendary, who in Warcraft was the original boss in Shadowfang Keep, who first summoned Worgen to the Gilneas area.
Heroes of the Storm:
Level 293 now. Including getting Kael'thas to level 3 through the brawl, which was another single-lane, this time in the lost cavern. Also got a legendary mount from a loot chest, a rather odd-looking horse.
WoW:
Nothing from the old pet/mount raids, though we did discover that the same pet can now drop twice in one kill, through legacy loot. Bit odd, but probably related to the loot now being neatly divided between all participants automatically.
Been planning out my to-do list for Battle for Azeroth a bit, looking at all the rewards for things, and the way the war campaign will be staggered throughout your levels. Many toys and some pets will be faction-specific though, which means it's more and more important as a collector to level my horde moonkin at some point.
Much collection work will need to be done through the island expeditions though. It doesn't seem quite like my favorite activity, but there's a lot of stuff to get!
War of the Thorns concluded this week, leading to the burning of a tree, and a new warbringer cinematic as well as the new Saurfang-related one. It also unlocked a new world quest which seems to cycle every 3 days instead of 1. I had some problem finishing the questline at first because of a phasing issue that kept the Greymane scene from playing out, and which gave some troubles with the quest itself. But after delaying it for a day, the phasing seemed right again, though I did not see such a thing in a hotfix.
And I finished up the event by getting the new hippogryph mount! The Undercity bat was automatically added as well, as you don't need to do the event on both factions to get both mounts. They are still only useable by their specific faction, though.
I also got the new Darkmoon Faire toy for 50 tickets. Still had 40, and did a pet battle quest for the last 10. A popcorn bag which you can eat from once a minute :smiley: Now I'm out of ticket reserves, but I don't really mind that; can always grind new ones for any new items, even if it takes me more than one monthly rotation for an item.
Got one more pet batlte done for the Argus pet achievement, leaving jst one, Watcher, to get. Just waiting for that to pop up!
Speaking of pet battles, the weekly quest was doing 5 pvp pet battles, which I used to continue the achievements for winning pvp pet battles with specific families. Did my first 5 with 3 aquatic pets, which is really quite challenging, and mostly relies on outhealing the enemy while doing damage with Surge when you don't need to refresh your buffs. Unless there are pets out there that might be more efficient :wink:
Still doing instances and raids for the wardrobe appearances. Got a few new items, including a druid staff from a Mount Hyjal boss which was rather popular at the time, so I'm glad to have it :smiley:
And that's my report! Next week will start the battle for the Undercity, but as I'm still waiting for my CE, I won't be able to do it yet :wink: That's fine though. Will still give me time for all my daily/weekly stuff.
Will do all that in BfA. Though with all the new seasons and stuff starting september 4, it'd be nice if I could get to level 120 before then. We'll see!
And.. yep, that's the end of my report for the week.

VardaLast Sunday at 8:43 PM
Thanks, Phar.
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 9:05 PM
namarie!
VardaLast Sunday at 9:06 PM
Namarie
Playing with Fangorn and Orome
Ar-Pharazon-VLast Sunday at 9:07 PM
It's 4 at night here, nobody in my raidgroup's channel :wink: running behind on stuff a bit but it's fine because I'm home alone :stuck_out_tongue: will soon go to bed though
so.. yeah, namarie
VardaLast Sunday at 9:09 PM
We're with you :smiley:
Namarie Phar
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