Valar Guild

April 15, 2018 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC/GMT - 5)
Discord: Valar Guild/meeting_place

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Transcript work by
Varda.

Attending: (7)
    Discord: Aranuir, Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Celebrian, Lenwe, Varda (presiding)
    LotRO:
Aranuir, Bregalad, Orome, Varda

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership:
Web:
    New art: red dragon model by Doc Mortrand
Gaming:
    General gaming report
Tolkien:
    Topic: New book coming out: The Fall of Gondolin
    Topic: The fantastic beasts of Tolkien.
After-meeting:
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon
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Before-meeting
(times are in Central from Varda, so add one hour for Eastern)

Varda - Today at 3:47 PM
Heya. Not quite time yet, just saying hi.   :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 3:47 PM
Aiya!
Varda - Today at 3:48 PM
Aiya Phar  :smiley:
Lenwe - Today at 3:56 PM
Whew, remembered this time :smiley:
Varda - Today at 3:57 PM
Huzzah!
Lenwe - Today at 3:57 PM
Aiya everyone
Varda - Today at 3:57 PM
Aiya Lenwe   :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 3:58 PM
Aiya!
Varda - Today at 4:02 PM
Pokage done for some. Phar, you want to try Arien?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:02 PM
Done.
ArienV - Today at 4:04 PM
present :smiley:
just killed Varimathras
sand finished the raid
Varda - Today at 4:04 PM
Grats
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:05 PM
Yay!
Varda - Today at 4:05 PM
Please pardon, I've just been called away to help in the workshop before someone gets hurt.
Arien might wind up with the gavel
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:05 PM
Just killed Cordana Felsong myself. For the manyeth time. Still no pattern. Urgh.
ArienV - Today at 4:06 PM
whats happening there?
Varda - Today at 4:08 PM
back, that was quick. :smiley:
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Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Membership:
Anyone present in Discord please say Aiya so we can count you. :smiley:
Aiya
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:09 PM
Aiya
Lenwe - Today at 4:09 PM
Aiya
Celebrian - Today at 4:09 PM
Aiya
Mostly lurking.
Varda - Today at 4:10 PM
Yay lurkers!
Hope we bring something to the table that you enjoy. :smiley:
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:11 PM
aiya
Varda - Today at 4:11 PM
In LotRO, we have Aranuir, Bregalad, Orome, and Varda.
Well hi! Aranuir is here too
ArienV - Today at 4:11 PM
Aiya  gang :smiley:
Varda - Today at 4:12 PM
Bregalad is logging off. Joys of paperwork that has to be done, but he says hi!
Eonwe mailed his hi and put up the gaming report. Events conspired against him.
I hope to be back before next Sunday, should be here.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:13 PM
Aiya people Ii've not Aiya'd yet!
Varda - Today at 4:13 PM
Fangorn and I are going to visit Eowyn, Faramir, and our grandson in Arizona. Sauron says he'll keep an Eye on the house, house-sitting.
Lenwe - Today at 4:13 PM
Good one :smile:
Varda - Today at 4:14 PM
Any other membership news anyone wants to mention?
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Web:
We have more dragon models for you. :smiley:
Remember the green dragon model from last time? [Note: from Rob Roy's Girl-(T)]
We had a request to see the red dragon better, so I asked the maker of that one and he obliged us. He's now Doc Mortrand-(T) and here's his dragon:
Pardon, Doc Mortand-(T)
Doctor Death if you need a translation. :wink:
He's also the one that did the ship barely seen in the background of the green dragon.
ArienV - Today at 4:18 PM
very impressive :smiley:
Varda - Today at 4:19 PM
He does a lot of gaming model painting, and makes some ship models as well. Both the painters are good friends that we play tabletop games with, such as Pathfinder, Midnight, and even board games.
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Gaming!
Here's the report from Eonwe:
The Valar Guild Games Site

World of Warcraft:
This week's bonus event: Battlegrounds.
Check out this week's hotfixes.
Hotfixes: April 10 - WoW

Heroes of the Storm:
A patch just came out this week.
Heroes of the Storm Patch Notes – April 11, 2018
Our most recent Heroes of the Storm patch is now live containing a number of balance changes and bug fixes.

Check out the development updates Blizzard just discussed in a recent blog.
Heroes of the Storm Development Updates – April 12, 2018
We’d like to share some of our upcoming plans for Heroes of the Storm with you. Read on for details about matchmaking, ranked play, new Hero bala...

Hearthstone:
The new expansion Witchwood is out this week
Enter The Witchwood Now!
The Witchwood, Hearthstone's newest spooky expansion, has arrived! You can now purchase and open card packs!

Check out the update.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:23 PM
Which includes faster/easier quests for more gold! Saves me a bit of time, though leveling will be a bit slower.
Varda - Today at 4:24 PM
Need something to slow you down, Phar. :smiley:
Update 11.0 – April 10 – Enter The Witchwood
We’re on the cusp of the new Hearthstone Year! This Hearthstone update puts the final touches in place for the Year of the Raven and the launch of Hearthstone’s latest expansion, The Witchwood! We’re also adding Lunara, the new Druid Hero, ...

Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:24 PM
hehe
Varda - Today at 4:24 PM
Also check out the Mysterious Missives Part 1.
The Witchwood – Mysterious Missives Part 1
As you prepare to face the evil in The Witchwood, it would be wise to arm yourself with knowledge of the key players in this unfolding conflict. Fortunately for you, such knowledge has mysteriously materialized. . . .

Lord of the Rings Online:
Patch 22.1 came out this week.
Update 22.1 Release Notes
Here are the Release Notes for Update 22.1, released on Tuesday, April 10th. 
Of Special Note:
Celebrating 11 Years of Lord of the Rings Online!
The 11th Anniversary of Lord of the Rings Online brings an addi...
Also, more news from the LotRO Beacon:
The LOTRO Beacon: Issue 55
Any other general gaming news?
LotRO is also having an extra experience weekend

Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:26 PM
Fladrif also spotted in Hearthstone.
Varda - Today at 4:27 PM
Nice :smiley:
Spotted in LotRO this week (21):
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:27 PM
Just like me, got 3 new legendaries from all the packs we saved/bought/opened for the new expansion and pre-expansion event :wink:
Varda - Today at 4:27 PM
Arien
Aranuir
Bregalad
Celebrian
Dis
Eonwe
Falco
Fangorn
Gil-galad
Gorlim
Lenwe
Luthien
Maedhros
Marigold
Melkor
Morwe
Nar
Nimrodel
Orome
Thranduil
Varda
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:27 PM
made us both quite happy!
Varda - Today at 4:27 PM
Very good. :smiley:
Anyone else seen this week? Helm, Aragorn, others?
Orome has been quite regular in LotRO since he came back. : )
Is there any other business? Have suggestions? Need a character invited in LotRO? Other?
I expect to have a new, properly working computer in a week or two. :smiley:
Ok, on to
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Tolkien!
Suggestions welcome, or else you get mine. : )

The book, The Fall of Gondolin, will be coming out.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:34 PM
Ooh.
Varda - Today at 4:34 PM
It should come out in August
End of August, from Harper Collins
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:34 PM
My favorite Tolkien chapter that was nearly never told. Looking forward to it already.
Varda - Today at 4:34 PM
Here's the cover:
Winter is Coming
David Harris (Razor)
A new book from J.R.R. Tolkien—The Fall of Gondolin—to be rele...
With Amazon poised to make a $1 billion TV show based on The Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth is back in the spotlight. Although Tolkien...

Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:35 PM
very cool
Varda - Today at 4:35 PM
Really looking forward to it.
Another article:
CNBC
'New' JRR Tolkien novel hailed as the 'Holy Grail' of his works is...
JRR Tolkien's "The Fall of Gondolin" is set to be published in August as a standalone text.

Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:35 PM
sees first line oh right, is that tv show still happening?
Varda - Today at 4:36 PM
Far as I know, yes.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:37 PM
I guess we'll finally have confirmation on how many balrogs there were? :smiley:
Varda - Today at 4:37 PM
Publisher:
Tor.com
nataliezutter
J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fall of Gondolin to Be Published as a Stand...
HarperCollins UK announced today that it would publish The Fall of Gondolin, J.R.R. Tolkien’s tale documenting the rise of a great but hidden Elven kingdom and its terrible fall, for the firs…

heh, interesting spelling for Earendil
and we must have the Tolkien Society:
The Tolkien Society
Daniel Helen
The Fall of Gondolin to be published
HarperCollins has announced that it will, for the very first time, publish The Fall of Gondolin on 30 August this year. Edited by Christopher Tolkien and illustrated by Alan Lee, The Fall of Gondolin will…

Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:38 PM
"They were journeying into a new story, the Tale of Erendel, which Tolkien never wrote, but which is sketched out in this book from other sources." That's neat.
Varda - Today at 4:39 PM
A must-have, for sure.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:40 PM
Looking for Gondolin on my regular webshop, I'm just getting several versions of the Narn. I'll have to check back every month or so to see if Gondolin gets up for pre-order :smiley:
Varda - Today at 4:40 PM
Good idea, pre-order. It may be sold out before it hits the shelves.
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On to our topic for today.
If we were to check JRRT's suitcase for the Fantastic Beasts of Tolkien, what might we find in there?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:42 PM
Is this a reference to something? Other than Tolkien that is?
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:42 PM
fire drakes would be on I would think
on
one i meant
Varda - Today at 4:42 PM
Good
Aye, it's a J.K. Rowling book, made into a movie.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:43 PM
Oh, right. I think I heard of that.
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:43 PM
werent there special horses?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:43 PM
Ah yes, Shadowfax and his kin.
Mearas?
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:43 PM
not sure what their name is
Varda - Today at 4:43 PM
Mearas, descendants of Nahar that was the horse of Orome from Valinor.
Good
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:43 PM
Were they? I couldn't go further back than Eorl :smiley:
Varda - Today at 4:44 PM
[Kinship] Beorome: neeker breekers :smiley:
[Kinship] Beorome: Oliphants
[Kinship] Beorome: big as a house, gray as a mouse
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:44 PM
Mosquitos in a swamp.
Varda - Today at 4:45 PM
They were epic mosquitoes. What do they eat when they can't get hobbit?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:45 PM
Oliphaunt!
Varda - Today at 4:45 PM
Aye
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:45 PM
Just quite a trip.
Varda - Today at 4:46 PM
Since we mentioned Mearas and Nahar, their ancestor, we can mention
the Kine of Araw
(Araw is Sindarin for Orome)
ArienV - Today at 4:47 PM
a boar wasnt it?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:47 PM
And he had his hunting dogs.
Varda - Today at 4:48 PM
Quote: Vorondil father of Mardil hunted the wild kine of Araw in the far fields of Rhûn
quote: descended from the Kine of Araw, the huntsman of the Valar, who alone of the Valar came often to Middle-earth in the Elder Days. Oromë is the High-elven form of his name."
Kine, another word for cattle, could be oxen.
I suspect our LotRO aurochs are intended to refer to that.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:50 PM
I like the word auroch. It's so majestic.
ArienV - Today at 4:50 PM
ah yes the horn that Boromir always blew before he started a journey
Varda - Today at 4:50 PM
Right, Arien!
ArienV - Today at 4:50 PM
the heirloom of the house of stewarts
Varda - Today at 4:51 PM
Here's a definition of aurochs from wikipedia:
The aurochs (/ˈɔːrɒks/ or /ˈaʊrɒks/; pl. aurochs, or rarely aurochsen, aurochses), also urus, ure (Bos primigenius), is an extinct species of large wild cattle that inhabited Europe, Asia, and North Africa. It is the ancestor of domestic cattle and the European bison, crossbred with Steppe bison.
Neat comment. They're seen in cave paintings
Some people are crazy, trying to bring it back from extinction. That is one mean, huge cow.
Died off in 1627
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:53 PM
I think bringing animals back like the aurochs ans tasmanian tiger is a great idea
Varda - Today at 4:53 PM
Could be. Welcome to Jurassic Park. :wink:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:53 PM
Dodos?
Varda - Today at 4:53 PM
Bison in Texas are bad enough for me. : )  But hey, aurochs herds will be nifty.
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 4:54 PM
haha
Varda - Today at 4:54 PM
The aurochs have potential use to man as a large food animal. Maybe we can find funding for dodos too, get GoFundMe or Kickstarter? :smiley:
Let's come up with some more Fantastic Beasts.  : )
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:55 PM
I mentioned the hunting dogs, earlier?
Varda - Today at 4:55 PM
You mentioned the hunting dogs of Orome. Huan was one that came to Middle-earth.
Aye  : )
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:57 PM
Well, there's eagles.
And bears.
Varda - Today at 4:57 PM
Ravens and Thrushes were birds that spoke and carried messages
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:58 PM
Oh my.
Varda - Today at 4:58 PM
No lions and tigers? : )
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 4:58 PM
Not that I know of!
I do still vaguely recall a reference to great apes in the jungles of the south, but I was never able to find it again.
Varda - Today at 4:58 PM
Intriguing. I wonder if there's  a chance of Googling that.
Find out where there's a mention of it and we can add it to our Tolkien Site.
Varda - Today at 5:00 PM
We could use articles for both ravens and thrushes. Would be especially good to enlighten people after the Hobbit movies.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:00 PM
Would be nice, but it's been years since I started looking... I'd probably have to go over every book with a fine comb.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Varda - Today at 5:01 PM
That's why we can try Googling, then find it from that in the books for all the stuff they left out, misspelled, and misquoted. :wink:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:01 PM
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Apes ooh, Helm's Deep... looking that up right now.
Apes
Varda - Today at 5:01 PM
Woot!
There were also special ponies. Small ones for Hobbits, shaggy ones of the Dwarves in cold country I think.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:03 PM
I always thought it was mentioned in the siege of Minas Tirith, never looked for it at Helm's Deep...
Varda - Today at 5:03 PM
Someone must have made a comment?
Aranuir(Aarfon) - Today at 5:04 PM
the horses in Iceland look exactly like this...they look like big shaggy dogs
Varda - Today at 5:04 PM
Sounds right
and Shetland ponies, maybe
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:07 PM
Ah, got it.
Page 166 in my book.
"Hundreds of long ladders were lifted up. Many were cast down in ruin, but many more replaced them, and Orcs sprang up them like apes in the dark forests of the South. Before the wall's foot the dead and broken were piled like shingle in a storm; ever higher rose the hideous mounds, and still the enemy came on."
Varda - Today at 5:08 PM
Great catch! Talk about a brief mention.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:09 PM
Yes, but it did stick in my head as one of the few references to the world south of Harad :smiley:
Varda - Today at 5:09 PM
Excellent
White wolves came down into the Shire from the north when they were starving. Not sure if that counts, but the hobbits sure thought it did when they had to fight them.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:11 PM
Can imagine.
Varda - Today at 5:13 PM
Of course that leads to Wargs, intelligent, allied with orcs (goblins).
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:13 PM
Also spiders, in that neighbourhood.
Varda - Today at 5:13 PM
Aye
Ones in Mirkwood worked together, had a language that Bilbo understood through the One Ring.
There's another ability of the One Ring we don't hear about much. Translator.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:14 PM
....Yes. I thought they were just sapient and talking common.
Varda - Today at 5:14 PM
Bet Frodo understood more Orcish talk than he wanted while in Mordor.
Hmm, maybe I'm remembering wrong and need to go re-read. Re-read, what a concept.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:15 PM
Well it's easily something I'd overlook.
Varda - Today at 5:15 PM
The Mirkwood spiders seem to have had some Ungoliant blood, making them large and smart. And were interesting for Shelob, as well as being lunch.
Shelob was apparently more closely related to Ungoliant than others we know about.
Which leads to the question: are there more Shelob types hidden around?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:16 PM
I wonder how old spiders would get, might as well be first generation.
Varda - Today at 5:17 PM
Shelob was well-supplied with food, protection from most things including the elements. She was apparently quite old and still lively.
Anarion - Today at 5:18 PM
After reading the silmarilion, I just kinda headcannoned that the mirkwood spiders were borderline-sentient as well, but that could be way wrong, and probably not how they were portrayed in the hobbit
or even properly sentient
In that sense they could all be shelob-types
Varda - Today at 5:19 PM
Always a question what we want to consider sentient.
Aye, just smaller. Maybe that was a group of males? Don't run into the females then!
The size might have been a function of age?
They did work together, they did have language. Sounds close enough to sentient.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:22 PM
Makes you wonder how many other races were sentient, but just without anyone listening in on them.
I think Beorn had some very clever servants.
Varda - Today at 5:23 PM
Fun word there, headcannoned.
Good point. Those of Beorns were awfully smart. Horses, giant bees.
Werewolves are another thing we hear of in the Silmarillion.
Sauron even transformed into one, trying to be the greatest werewolf that was in the prophecy.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:30 PM
Turns out he wasn't.
Varda - Today at 5:30 PM
Must have been because he also had a cat form, Tevildo.  ; )
JRRT was not fond of cats.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:30 PM
Disliked cats, liked dogs, disliked wolves?
Varda - Today at 5:31 PM
Not sure he disliked wolves, but he might have. I found nothing about it, personally.
They were  a danger to livestock, so maybe. But so were eagles, as the Great Eagles admitted.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:32 PM
Perhaps so were bears? :smiley:
Varda - Today at 5:32 PM
Beornings may not have been, as they were vegetarian
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:33 PM
Ah yes.
Varda - Today at 5:36 PM
Thuringwethil looked like a bat, when she wore her bat pelt. That's the one Luthien used.
ArienV - Today at 5:39 PM
Right Valarights
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:39 PM
Bats, sure, that works :smiley:
Did we have Crebain yet?
Varda - Today at 5:39 PM
Good one, not yet!
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:39 PM
More birds!
Varda - Today at 5:39 PM
We did run long, sorry Arien.
Shall we call it for the night?
ArienV - Today at 5:41 PM
well i  certainly have to call it i fear :frowning:
I am quite sleepy
Varda - Today at 5:41 PM
Have a good night, Arien. See you all next week!
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 5:41 PM
Namarie, then!
I'll start my report in the aftermeeting.
Varda - Today at 5:41 PM
the hammers grow wings and fly around the hammerpad, tapping a rhythm.
and fly back
ArienV - Today at 5:41 PM
aye Namarie all and have fun :smiley:
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Varda - Today at 5:42 PM
After-meeting!
Namarie!
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 6:03 PM
Personal gaming report!

For flashgaming I've got 3 simple-ish physics puzzlers this week.
http://www.physicsgames.net/game/Cannon_Basketball_4.html is the first! Shoot tiny basketballs across a level, collecting stars, flipping switches, and ultimately getting one in the basket. You've got an unlimited supply of basketballs to fire, with the bonus score depending on how many stars you collect. Gets trickier later on when you have to prevent blocking your own path of success, by doing stuff in the right order :smiley:
Physics Games - Cannon Basketball 4
Cannon Basketball is back with 30 new levels! Launch basketballs as you try solve puzzles, collect stars, and make baskets.
http://www.physicsgames.net/game/Ball_in_the_Hole.html is the second game! Similar goal, different mechanics. Click and drag to launch the ball into the hole in as few tries as possible. Later on you get multiple colors, wherein the right ball  needs the right hole to be launched in.
Physics Games - Ball in the Hole
As the title suggests, your objective is simply to put the ball in the hole. When there are multiple balls, you will need make sure that each ball lands in its respective colored bucket.
http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/cut_the_rope_experiments for the third game! Cut ropes and click bubbles to  collect all the stars and feed the candy to the.. baby dragon or whatever it is.
Cut the Rope Experiments - OneMoreLevel.com
Oh, backing up a bit, I'm now doing a bit of reading up and finding out that the cut the rope thing is actually part of quite a successful series, mostly for for mobile platforms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_the_Rope if you want to know more
Cut the Rope
Cut the Rope is a series of physics-based puzzle video games developed by the Russian entertainment company ZeptoLab for several platforms and devices. It consists of the original Cut the Rope (2010) published by Chillingo, Cut the Rope: Experime...

Right, Blizzard gaming!
Hearthstone: Expansion started! Opened all the packs I'd saved up since the pack-per-quest started. Got 3 legendaries out of them, and an additional free one just for logging in.
Brawl this week is as random as it gets: Choose a class, get a deck of random cards that all do something random somewhere in the description :smiley:
Heroes of the Storm: Better brawl this week: Azmodunk, with 10 players using Azmodan's basketball skin, throwing large aoe bombs at each other. The more you or your team kills with them, the higher the damage gets for each bomb. The slightest early advantage can easily run out of hand until one team just overpowers the other, which is what happened in both matches, but in one of them that winning team was mine :wink:
2 new levels gained, up to 268, including Raynor who's now level 14. Getting multiple at 14 now which I'll need to replace when they reach 15 for the most efficient rewards :smiley:
WoW:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 7:00 PM
We're still doing the old raids for pets in some of our party, and mounts for some of us as well, even though I've gotten all 12 pets now. Taking much less time now, though, I think we were done in about 40 minutes. Probably nothing to report for that for a while, but at least it's done quick :smiley:
Still doing heroic raiding, and this reset we actually cleared the entire raid in 2 days, which means I didn't have to miss any. Didn't get a lot of loot upgrades myself, except a pretty good Life relic for my Restoration artifact, one of the items I wanted to prepare myself more for the Restoration druid challenge.
Also got my second-last restoration spec legendary, with the last one remaining being the last one I want for the challenge.
Once I have that, the next time the mage tower is up I'll give the challenge a few tries. If I can complete it I'll be done with that for the druid :smiley:
In the meantime, I did get another appearance for all specs, by winning the last of the 10 rated battlegrounds I needed :smiley: With the battleground weekly quest this week it seemed like the best time.
I also got the second leatherworking pattern, out of two, that can only be gotten through rated battlegrounds, so I'm done with that too. Nothing left to collect for Leatherworking except the pattern from Cordana (which is taking forever!) and a whole bunch of patterns from the Sightless Eye vendor in Dalaran. Will need to work on those in the future!
New pet from Kosumoth! For the first time in the months since I unlocked him, the bi-weekly quest rewarded the pet this week. Been a long time waiting, but I have it now, a little spiked tentacle thing.
Got another trait on the fishing pole done, with 4 to go. The artifact power needed for the next one shot up a bit more than I expected, so I looked up the costs for the last 4 traits. Turns out the last one isn't 50k, but 82.5k power, and the final total I still need is rather higher than I'd expected.
A bit discouraging, but some in my raidgroup pointed out that there's a way to get the rare fish required even faster than what I've been doing now. I knew of the method, but I didn't think it'd be that quick: Possibly 4 times faster than what I've been doing. However, that method can only be used for 1 in 6 days, by going to the Suramar fisherfriend. But I think I will do that, and spend the remaining time on other stuff!
Which is, right now, continuing to work on the First Aid queststarters. Got another of those, now missing 9 of them. That will be my next major project then, on days when the fisherfriend is not up :smiley:
And finally I'll mention that one of the WoW books arrived which, on the website, looked like it was indefinitely postponed. I'm not sure what the story is behind that, but it gives me hope that the other 2 might still arrive in the near future as well.
And that's my report for the week! For the near future I'll mention that I'm planning on possibly getting one more appearance from 5-man achievements tomorrow, if our entire group is available. And also that in a week or two will be my 13th WoW anniversary, for which I'm considering buying myself the Shu-zen mount early, rather than waiting until my Dark Iron character is made. Have not decided yet.
And that's it from me!

Varda - Today at 7:18 PM
Thanks, Phar
Grats on the book. :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Today at 7:19 PM
Thanks :smiley: Part 2 of the War of the Ancients trilogy. When I got the email that it was coming, I was kinda worried that they'd messed up and sent me the first one again or something, because it shouldn't have been available. But it was the right one!
The two missing books are now the first Sunwell manga, and the last Warcraft Legends manga.
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