Valar Guild

September 17, 2017 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (6)
    AIM: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Elladan, Eonwe (presiding), Varda
    Discord: Arien, Gorlim, Varda.
    LotRO: Elwing, Maedhros, Varda

Meeting begins
    Thank you to those who replied to the GSMU! The Games Site Mass Update is still in progress. If you did not receive an email, which is also a yearly gaming newsletter, please email your info to Eonwe, or Varda if your email is confidential.
    New art: "Gandalf" by DeepGroover-(T)
    General gaming report by Eonwe
    Topic: New game: Book or Movie? We took turns to suggest a scene that was only found in the books or movies, and the others said which it was.
    Continued Tolkien game.
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon

(times for Ar-Pharazon in the Netherlands)

Eonwe Valar (23:01:49):    Heya all.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:02:11):    Aiya
Eonwe Valar (23:02:24):    Oh good, one person here at least :}
Eonwe Valar (23:04:29):    We'll give it a couple more minutes.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:05:15):    sure :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:05:24):    Got email from Varda? I'll poke Arien.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:05:38):    poked
Arien V (23:07:15):    hey hey Aiya you two
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:07:20):    Aiya!
Varda Valar (23:07:54):    Aiya
Varda Valar (23:08:12):    Just got home - slipped up here to the computer. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:08:18):    Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (23:08:20):    Heya :}
Eonwe Valar (23:08:25):    Was just about to begin :}
Varda Valar (23:08:27):    and noticed hadn't done the upload to the News, now up.
Varda Valar (23:08:31):    Yay, go ahead!
Arien V (23:08:35):    welcome home and great to see you :)
Varda Valar (23:08:47):    Thanks, tickled y'all could make it!
Eonwe Valar (23:09:33):    OK, here we go :}

Eonwe Valar (23:09:54):    Elen SIla Lumenn Omentielvo!
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:10:02):    (will be a bit half afk during the meeting, just wasted an hour helping someone search for a childhood cartoon)
Eonwe Valar (23:10:20):    Sounds like fun, Phar :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:10:29):    It was, but we did get it!
Eonwe Valar (23:10:34):    I'm curious which one :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:10:47):    Turned out to be an anime called Jura Tripper.
Eonwe Valar (23:10:55):    Ah.
(23:10:56) Elladan accepted invitation from eonwevalar to this group chat.

Eonwe Valar (23:11:07):    Membership:
Elladan (23:11:09):    Aiya
Varda Valar (23:11:16):    Aiya Elladan :)
Eonwe Valar (23:11:17):    Heya :}
Arien V (23:11:18):    Aiya Elladan :)
Eonwe Valar (23:11:39):    And Heya to all who made it to today's meeting, thanks for coming, and good to see you :}
Eonwe Valar (23:12:21):    The first responses to the Games-Site Mass Update are posted to the Games Site. Thank you to those who have replied so far :}
Varda Valar (23:12:35):    Yay!
Varda Valar (23:12:48):    and they are automatically part of the 2018 Membership update.
Eonwe Valar (23:12:50):    E-mail, whisper in AIM, or Private Message on the Forum all work as forms of response.
Eonwe Valar (23:14:26):    In his response, Melkor said hi and wished me to pass on that he has fond memories of gaming with everyone in LotRO :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:14:37):    I think I'll poke you later in the week on AIM when I have more time :)
Varda Valar (23:14:42):    Does he still game?
Eonwe Valar (23:15:27):    He does, with Oromë.
(23:16:26) Elladan left this group chat.
Arien V (23:16:40):    :)
Arien V (23:16:52):    Eve online then i take it?
Varda Valar (23:17:05):    Elladan is having problems with AIM. Working on it.
(23:18:07) eonwevalar added scott92027 to this group chat.
Varda Valar (23:19:27):    Elladan still can't type. Maybe I can relay for him.
Eonwe Valar (23:19:31):    Any other Membership News?
Eonwe Valar (23:19:47):    Appreciated, Varda :}
Varda Valar (23:19:47):    Lots of family at my house. :) Very fun.
Eonwe Valar (23:20:00):    Congrats :}
Eonwe Valar (23:20:09):    Glad you could make it with all that going on :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:20:16):    Must be crowded?
Varda Valar (23:20:35):    Fangorn's brothers and their wives. No, we're good. Two-story house, and other places to stay as well.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:20:43):    ah :)
Varda Valar (23:20:48):    Two just headed home.
Arien V (23:21:22):    i ve seen Helm a few times online and in person on Skye oon Thursday :)
Eonwe Valar (23:21:23):    "Two" .. implying there are more... Big family :}
Varda Valar (23:21:47):    Three brothers and their wives.
Eonwe Valar (23:22:00):    OK, just a little bigger then :}
Eonwe Valar (23:22:18):    and Cool Arien :}
Eonwe Valar (23:23:04):    Any other Membership News?
Eonwe Valar (23:24:08):    OK, on to...

Eonwe Valar (23:24:14):    Gaming:
Eonwe Valar (23:24:53):    World of Warcraft:
Eonwe Valar (23:25:05):    This week's bonus event: World Quests.
The final part of the Argus Campaign opened up this week.
See this week's hotfixes.

Eonwe Valar (23:25:26):    Diablo 3:
Eonwe Valar (23:25:54):    Check out the 2.6.1 PTR patch notes.
While you're at it, check out the blog describing Blizzard's balance goals for the next patch.

Eonwe Valar (23:26:06):    Starcraft 2:
Eonwe Valar (23:26:18):    A new announcer is coming in the next patch. See the preview.

Eonwe Valar (23:26:32):    Heroes of the Storm:
Eonwe Valar (23:26:46):    Check out Blizzard's new blog on AI in Heroes of the Storm.

Eonwe Valar (23:27:18):    LotRO:
Eonwe Valar (23:27:34):    New blog out, which I didn't get a chance to add to the Games Site News:
Eonwe Valar (23:27:42):
Varda Valar (23:28:04):    We get to hear it here first!
Varda Valar (23:28:40):

Eonwe Valar (23:30:24):    WoW Lothar: Eonwe, Eowyn, and Bofur, and Nob were spotted this week.
Eonwe Valar (23:30:40):    Any other Gaming News?
Varda Valar (23:31:40):    That bit I put in about the Bullroarer test server was from Gil-galad. Thanks Gil!
Eonwe Valar (23:31:47):    Now is also a good time for whispering me Tolkien Topics, or you'll get one of mine :}
Eonwe Valar (23:32:08):    Thanks Gil-Galad, and thanks Varda for relaying it :}
Varda Valar (23:33:24):    Maedhros and Elwing are in LotRO, hello. ;)
Arien V (23:35:05):    aiya Maedhros and Elwing?
Arien V (23:35:11):    :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:35:18):    Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (23:35:22):    Heya to them :}
Eonwe Valar (23:35:28):    I just saw Eowyn walk in on WoW :}
Arien V (23:36:10):    oh i grouped with Dis and a random companion in durthang to cut throug some orcs and free some prisoners :)
Arien V (23:36:19):    that was in Lotro
Varda Valar (23:36:52):    LotRO gang this week, list just now compiled, *puff*
Varda Valar (23:36:54):   
Arien V (23:37:04):    a nice guy from a guild called .. sometthing of Appledore :)
Eonwe Valar (23:39:51):    Any other gaming news?
Varda Valar (23:40:55):    Probably. We'll pop up with it in the middle of something else. ;)
Varda Valar (23:41:02):    SCBW with Fangorn and Varda
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:41:09):    One bit of general news.
Varda Valar (23:41:11):    SC2 with Fangorn, Eowyn, Faramir.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:41:34):    (also me in SC2, war chest opened up again ;))
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:42:50):    want my bit yet?
Eonwe Valar (23:42:54):    My apologies, I justrealized I completedly skipped over Web News.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:43:10):    Ah, I figured there just wasn't any :D
Eonwe Valar (23:43:43):    If by "your bit" you mean your after-meeting list of gaming, not yet. We're not quite there :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:43:53):    Nope. My small bit of general gaming nes.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:43:55):    *news
Eonwe Valar (23:44:16):    Go ahead then, and then we'll go back for Web News right before Tolkien :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:44:48):    Right! Well! Some of you may recall me linking to a gigantic, highly popular and also quite unusual webcomic called Homestuck in the past...
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:45:14):    during the last year (or years) of that comic, the creator had been working on a game based on that universe, which released last week!
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:45:37):    so if you want a new game, go to ;)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:46:23):    I want to get it myself, but I'm not on Steam and wondering if it's worth making an account for or using humble bundle.. I miss the time of cds and dvds :)
Eonwe Valar (23:46:32):    :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:46:35):    But I already heard from a friend it's good stuff!
Eonwe Valar (23:46:50):    Good to hear :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:47:02):    So yeah, had to mention that. Continue!

Eonwe Valar (23:47:14):    Web:
Eonwe Valar (23:47:25):    Your floor, Varda :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:47:29):    (oh, trailer has some info on the game itself if you're curious)
Varda Valar (23:47:30):    Thank you. ::)
Varda Valar (23:47:44):    We'll have to take a look at that, Phar. :)

Varda Valar (23:48:05):    Art came in for the 20th anniversary from DeepGroover-(T):
Varda Valar (23:48:20):

Varda Valar (23:48:58):    The Bohemian Weasel has a painting but I don't have it up yet, apologies all around, but you can look forward to it this coming week. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:49:10):    :}
Varda Valar (23:49:12):    Hobbits in the Old Forest
Varda Valar (23:49:26):    That's my news. All yours!
Eonwe Valar (23:49:44):    Thanks :}

Eonwe Valar (23:50:12):    Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar (23:50:39):    Everyone here and ready for some Tolkien, say Chrysophylax :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:51:46):    Chrysophylax
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:52:03):    well, somewhat, currently in daily lower Kara :)
Arien V (23:52:10):    Chrysophylax
Eonwe Valar (23:52:11):    Oh good, I was afraid either no one was here, or no one was ready for Tolkien :}
Varda Valar (23:52:21):    Chrysophylax
Arien V (23:52:40):    oh that was the nice dragon in Farmer Giles :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:52:58):    "nice", yes...
Varda Valar (23:54:00):    well, only because it had to be, or thought it had to be.
Arien V (23:54:27):    tell me to remind me .. its been a while :)
Eonwe Valar (23:55:52):    Ok, Eonwe, Arien, Phar, Varda is what I have for lsit of participants. Anyone I missed?
Eonwe Valar (23:56:02):    *lsit = list
Varda Valar (23:56:03):    (oh, and I"m in Discord and LotRO also)
Varda Valar (23:56:14):    Maedhros and Elwing in LotRO.
Eonwe Valar (23:56:41):    Are they going to want a turn on the game we're going to play? :}
Varda Valar (23:57:35):    I doubt it. But I'll try a relay. Don't wait on them or Elladan.
Eonwe Valar (23:57:51):    OK.
Varda Valar (23:57:55):    We can still give it a shot. If they reply I'll relay
Eonwe Valar (23:58:01):    Ok.

Eonwe Valar (23:58:33):    So, we're going to play a game that makes the rules pretty apparent just by the title: "Book or Movie?"
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:58:55):    ooh, fun
Arien V (23:59:18):    fun :)
Eonwe Valar (23:59:41):    Pick something: person, place, thing, from one *or* the other (so make it specific enough to narrow down to either). Everyone else tries to determine which of those two it came from.
Monday, September 18, 2017
Varda Valar (00:00:23):    Tell us when to try it?
Eonwe Valar (00:00:27):    I'm ruling out answers of "both" because it's quite obvious we'd have a very (very!) long potential list of "both" for answers if we did not.
Eonwe Valar (00:00:44):    Part of the challenge is to be picking something specific enough to be one or the other :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:00:54):    and not have it be too obvious...
Eonwe Valar (00:02:07):    I'm going to pick the most blatantly obvious one I can think of to give as the example and the first round, so I expect everyone to get the first one right :}
Eonwe Valar (00:02:25):    So here we go!
Eonwe Valar (00:03:14):    Glorfindel meets Aragorn and the Hobbits on the way to Rivendell.
Eonwe Valar (00:03:26):    Book or Movie?
Arien V (00:03:31):    Book
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:03:41):    book
Varda Valar (00:03:46):    book
Varda Valar (00:03:59):    Unanimous :)
Eonwe Valar (00:04:13):    Correct :}
Eonwe Valar (00:04:40):    Arien's turn, the Phar, then Varda, then back around. Feel free to think of trickier ones from here on :}
Eonwe Valar (00:06:03):    Go ahead when ready, Arien :}
Arien V (00:06:11):    okay :) Aragorn goes looking for Athelas after Frodo has been hurt
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:06:39):    movie
Varda Valar (00:06:50):    Book
Eonwe Valar (00:07:04):    Hmm, that one is tricky, because if we include the extended editions of the movie, I'm pretty sure it's both.
Varda Valar (00:07:28):    Extended does make it trickier!
Eonwe Valar (00:07:47):    I know he and Sam went looking in the book, but I think the scene for the movie was not in the theatrical edition.
Eonwe Valar (00:08:37):    Since I didn't consider it, let's take a vote: do we want to include extended editions or limit to theatrical versions?
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:08:47):    I remember the extended better, so I'll stick to that :)
Varda Valar (00:08:50):    Include extended
Arien V (00:09:00):    all right
Varda Valar (00:09:00):    It has some beauts. ;)
Eonwe Valar (00:09:02):    I abstain.
Arien V (00:09:20):    i had the book in mind
Arien V (00:09:54):    but maybe it wasnt the best detail
Varda Valar (00:09:57):    I'm not entirely sure I could separate them.
Eonwe Valar (00:09:59):    Including EE means that we may have to be even more specific, hehe.
Varda Valar (00:10:12):    Good exercise!
Eonwe Valar (00:11:11):    So starting with Phar, we'll consider EE as well, but Arien's intended answer rules in this case. So everyone who said book was right :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:11:23):    bah ;)
Varda Valar (00:11:48):    (and Phar was right too, I think. But no worries)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:12:17):    Hmm...
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:13:17):    The company fighting the Nazgul *on* Weathertop (I hope I got this right)
Varda Valar (00:13:49):    both
Eonwe Valar (00:13:50):    Movie.
Varda Valar (00:13:56):    oh, *on*
Varda Valar (00:14:39):    movie
Arien V (00:14:47):    movie .. as far as i know in the book it was in a camp at half height
Varda Valar (00:15:07):    Kind of like lighting a beacon :)
Arien V (00:15:09):    that was used by rangers normally
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:15:27):    correct :)
Varda Valar (00:15:49):    Weapons coming from the mound of the Barrow-wights.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:15:56):    book
Eonwe Valar (00:16:06):    Book
Arien V (00:16:06):    book
Varda Valar (00:16:30):    Aye. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:17:10):    Treebeard saving Merry and Pippin from Old Man Willow.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:17:19):    Hah, movie!
Arien V (00:17:47):    movie
Varda Valar (00:18:13):    I don't remember that in either one. :( Guess I'd better go watch again.
Arien V (00:18:37):    its not book anyway
Arien V (00:18:44):    so it has to be movie
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:18:51):    extended, I believe
Varda Valar (00:18:53):    It's not book, aye. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:19:23):    Aye, it is an extended edition scene in the movie.
Varda Valar (00:19:41):    Sam and Frodo in Osgiliath.
Eonwe Valar (00:19:42):    I need to go afk for a few minutes, so if you come to my turn, please skip me until I get back.
Eonwe Valar (00:20:07):    It was Arien's turn if we're staying in order :}
Varda Valar (00:20:24):    pardon, go ahead Arien ;)
Arien V (00:20:50):    did you ask your question Varda?
Varda Valar (00:21:04):    Apparently I was out of order. :) That was my question.
Arien V (00:21:17):    its movie
Varda Valar (00:21:52):    Aye
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:21:52):    movie, yep
Varda Valar (00:22:04):    I was out of order. Eonwe asked, then it's Arien, Phar, Varda.
Varda Valar (00:22:17):    So, Arien's go. :)
Arien V (00:22:29):    okay
Arien V (00:23:10):    hmmmm the hobbits discussing the ongoings in Bagend in Bywater
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:23:19):    sounds like book
Varda Valar (00:23:39):    Sounds like book to me too
Arien V (00:26:02):    correct
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:26:46):    Frodo falls off of a table while singing.
Arien V (00:27:04):    Book
Varda Valar (00:28:08):    Poem, guess it was a song. Man in the Moon? Not sure he fell off a table in the book, need to go read again too. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:28:43):    yep, man in the moon... and I assumed it was a song because he performs it twice, which is something you do not expect from a poem :)
Arien V (00:28:54):    he did in fact .. under Striders table ^^
Varda Valar (00:29:07):    Good spot to fall!
Varda Valar (00:29:59):    I asked mine earlier. Eonwe isn't present, so back to Arien. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:30:24):    Back
Arien V (00:30:35):    he can ask then :)
Varda Valar (00:30:36):    Arien saved by the Eonwe. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:30:41):    :}
Eonwe Valar (00:31:01):    Fionwe succeeds :}
Varda Valar (00:31:16):    Huzzah!
Varda Valar (00:31:30):    Now that's a cool reference. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:31:36):    hehe
Eonwe Valar (00:31:51):    OK, let's see...
Eonwe Valar (00:32:41):    Gimli suggests Aragorn doesn't free the Dead Men of Dunharrow just yet.
Varda Valar (00:33:12):    Movie
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:33:32):    Yeah, sounds like movie.
Arien V (00:33:35):    i dont remember that one ^^
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:33:48):    Despite him releasing them later in the movie than in the book ;)
Eonwe Valar (00:34:11):    Movie is correct :}
Eonwe Valar (00:34:35):    And too bad, Phar, that could've been a good question for your turn :}
Varda Valar (00:34:41):    hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:34:52):    It could, but we've got plenty of options.
Varda Valar (00:35:01):    :)
Eonwe Valar (00:35:04):    :}
Arien V (00:35:21):    hmm the physical fight between Gandalf and Saruman
Arien V (00:35:26):    in Isengard
Varda Valar (00:35:28):    movie
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:35:29):    movie
Eonwe Valar (00:35:36):    Movie.
Arien V (00:35:49):    correct :)
Eonwe Valar (00:36:15):    Although one does wonder how exactly Saruman got Gandalf up there without a fight, hehe.
Arien V (00:36:34):    i remember both actors mentioning they had a lot of fun doing this scene :)
Eonwe Valar (00:36:40):    :}
Varda Valar (00:36:53):    Seems bruising, but glad they enjoyed it.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:36:54):    "Where's the bathroom?" "See that little door all the way up there?"
Varda Valar (00:37:02):    There you go!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:26):    let's see...
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:34):    Legolas drinks Gimli under the table.
Varda Valar (00:37:38):    Maybe just a display of force? Gandalf certain that he would lose? Or left-over loyalty?
Varda Valar (00:37:45):    Not mentioned in the book. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:37:54):    Movie.
Varda Valar (00:38:06):    aye, movie
Eonwe Valar (00:38:14):    In response to Phar's subject.
Eonwe Valar (00:39:00):    Aye to yours, not mentioned in the book, so difficult to know for sure how Gandalf ended up there :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:39:54):    nothing makes a movie like 2 old geezers with long beards fighting it out.
Eonwe Valar (00:40:02):    hehehehe
Varda Valar (00:40:26):    Knowing they're Maiar kind of adds something to it. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:40:40):    We certainly like our old guys to be semi-retired action heroes, hehehe.
Varda Valar (00:40:54):    The Witch-king breaking Gandalf's staff at the gate of Minas Tirith.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:41:06):    Speaking as someone who recently watched The Expendables 3, I must agree with that :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:41:11):    movie
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:41:15):    no!
Eonwe Valar (00:41:24):    Hmm,.. Yes, movie.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:41:26):    in movie he does it elsewhere in Minas Tirith... must be book
Varda Valar (00:41:55):    The only staff to ever be broken was by Gandalf the White, to Saruman's staff,in the books.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:42:06):    Hmm. Fair enough.
Arien V (00:42:30):    i dont remember Gandalfs staff breaking at all in the book i wanted to say that
Eonwe Valar (00:42:31):    I guess that confirms the answer? :}
Varda Valar (00:42:44):    Aye, movie.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:42:47):    Guess I'll stick with my first answer!
Varda Valar (00:43:17):    Good plan
Eonwe Valar (00:43:20):    :}
Eonwe Valar (00:43:34):    Hmm...
Eonwe Valar (00:44:43):    Aragorn leaves Anduril outside of Theoden's Halls.
Varda Valar (00:45:05):    Movie
Arien V (00:45:25):    Book
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:45:29):    I'm gonna say book.
Varda Valar (00:45:33):    wasn't it both?
Eonwe Valar (00:45:34):    Book is right :}
Eonwe Valar (00:45:41):    He didnt have Anduril yet in the movie :}
Varda Valar (00:45:47):    hah! ok
Eonwe Valar (00:45:56):    I had to get a little vague to make that one work, hehe.
Eonwe Valar (00:46:21):    In the book, he didn't like it, but he left Anduril leaning against a wall, and forbade anyone to touch it.
Varda Valar (00:46:42):    Gorlim says hi from Discord. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:46:48):    Heya to Gorlim :}
Varda Valar (00:46:49):    true on the book part
Varda Valar (00:47:03):    Gorlim-Today at 5:45 PM
attending kind of
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:47:09):    Aiya Gorlim!
Arien V (00:47:15):    hey :)
Arien V (00:47:23):    aiya Gorlim!
Eonwe Valar (00:47:27):    In the book and movie, he left *a* sword "Outside of Theoden's Halls" but only in the book was it Anduril.
Eonwe Valar (00:48:00):    Arien's turn :}
Arien V (00:50:06):    very well
Arien V (00:51:08):    hmmm Arwem and Aragorn have a romantic tete a tete in Imladris before the party leaves
Eonwe Valar (00:51:21):    Movie
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:51:23):    movie (extended?)
Varda Valar (00:52:22):    movie
Arien V (00:53:40):    correc
Arien V (00:53:43):    y
Arien V (00:53:49):    correct
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:53:50):    right, for mine...
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:54:03):    Wormtongue stabs Saruman in the back.
Eonwe Valar (00:54:17):    Book.
Varda Valar (00:54:33):    Movie
Varda Valar (00:55:46):    Book was throat.
Eonwe Valar (00:55:59):    Yeah, was just thinking that.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:56:25):    aw, was waiting for Arien to choose first :)
Varda Valar (00:56:26):    They went with back in the movie I think because of real life experience
Varda Valar (00:56:43):    He knew exactly what Saruman would sound like
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:57:31):    Might be a bit odd for LotR, but I wonder if a closeup of his throat being slit was just a bit too graphic for the screen.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:57:36):    Stab in the back.. not so much.
Eonwe Valar (00:57:46):    Probably.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:58:05):    Of course, he then gets impaled, but still.
Varda Valar (00:58:14):    Probably right. Didn't have to show close-up, could have been from behind Grima.
Arien V (00:58:20):    yeah i remember thatr from braveheart in a scene *shudder* even though in the meantime i ve seen worse ^^
Eonwe Valar (00:58:31):    They probably could've done some camera angles to suggest without showing, but questionable if it would've been clear enough.
Varda Valar (00:58:33):    the drop on the wheel was pretty bad too
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:58:39):    I think I most vividly remember it in Game of Thrones, at the red wedding.
Varda Valar (00:58:49):    Braveheart, ouch.
Arien V (00:59:36):    hehe i am sure we are all able to come up with eeky movie scenes :) but lets continue instead
Eonwe Valar (00:59:43):    :}
Eonwe Valar (00:59:48):    Varda's turn :}
Varda Valar (01:00:10):    Sam and Frodo at Osgiliath, where Frodo takes the Ring out and shows it to the flying Nazgul.
Eonwe Valar (01:00:25):    Movie.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:00:29):    movie
Arien V (01:00:35):    movie
Varda Valar (01:00:37):    Aye
Eonwe Valar (01:00:58):    OK, last round :} Let's make these good :}
Arien V (01:02:39):    Merry and Pippin end up doing the dishes at Bilbos birthday for stealing fireworks
Varda Valar (01:02:58):    Movie
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:02:59):    Movie
Eonwe Valar (01:03:39):    You skipped me? :}
Eonwe Valar (01:03:43):    but Movie, yes :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:03:45):    Eonwe next ;)
Eonwe Valar (01:03:55):    I didn't realize I was thinking that long, lol :}
Varda Valar (01:04:13):    Go ahead, Eonwe :)
Eonwe Valar (01:05:10):    Merry and Pippin fight at the Black Gate.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:05:21):    movie
Varda Valar (01:05:31):    Not Merry in the book as he was in the Houses of Healing. So, movie.
Eonwe Valar (01:06:15):    Arien, your response?
Arien V (01:06:31):    moivie yes
Eonwe Valar (01:06:47):    Correct :}
Eonwe Valar (01:07:08):    Phar's turn :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:07:12):    Hmm, got several in my head...
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:07:38):    Legolas kills a beast with 3 arrows.
Varda Valar (01:07:45):    (hate to have to end this. Feel free to mention in After-meeting, but I'll have to go)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:07:54):    Enjoy!
Varda Valar (01:08:01):    Three? um, has to be movie.
Eonwe Valar (01:08:07):    Movie.
Varda Valar (01:08:09):    The mumak
Eonwe Valar (01:09:12):    All answers in?
Varda Valar (01:09:47):    Arien?
Arien V (01:10:06):    oh yes he does the acrobatcs on the mumak . funny enough this *technique* has been adapted into the Game epic questline :)
Varda Valar (01:10:16):    ^^
Arien V (01:10:23):    movie yes
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:10:25):    heh, nice
Eonwe Valar (01:10:28):    hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:10:34):    Yep, movie it is. I believe he only requires one for a felbeast :)
Varda Valar (01:10:38):    Good one, Phar
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:10:43):    Also, it still only counts as one!
Varda Valar (01:10:52):    Aye, one in the dark on a flying fell beast. :)
Varda Valar (01:11:16):    Frodo tells Sam to leave him and Gollum at Shelob's tunnel and Sam goes.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:11:33):    movie
Eonwe Valar (01:11:42):    Gollum's fanfiction? :}
Eonwe Valar (01:11:45):    I mean movie :}
Varda Valar (01:11:51):    hehehe
Arien V (01:12:01):    movie yes
Varda Valar (01:12:11):    Aye, movie. :)
Arien V (01:12:23):    and because its so much fun ..
Arien V (01:12:29):    out of the contest
Varda Valar (01:12:34):    Please feel free to add more fun in the After-meeting. I really must leave.
Arien V (01:12:37):    Frodo and Sam stumble across them stealing vegetables at Farmer Maggot on the way to Bockenberg Ferry then here then hear the Nazgul flying over them and they end up casing through the forest and fall down a slope .. Pippin sais * i have broken something * and holds up a giant carrot broken in half ^^
Eonwe Valar (01:12:44):    OK, ladies and gentlemen, that wraps up the game and the meeting, so....
Varda Valar (01:12:46):    ^^
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:12:46):    that's movie :D

Eonwe Valar (01:12:53):    Aftermeeting:
Varda Valar (01:12:53):    Movie :)
Arien V (01:13:00):    :)
Eonwe Valar (01:13:12):    hehehe
Eonwe Valar (01:13:18):    movie :}
Arien V (01:14:15):    thanks for the fun :D
Eonwe Valar (01:14:16):    I must be off as well, so take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}
Arien V (01:14:26):    enjoy work and rest and dinner :)
Eonwe Valar (01:14:28):    Thank you all for coming, and hope to see you next week :}
Varda Valar (01:14:55):   
was fun watching :)
Arien V (01:15:04):    :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:15:07):    hehe
Eonwe Valar (01:15:15):    :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:15:27):    Interesting game, at least!
Varda Valar (01:15:53):    Aye!
Arien V (01:16:38):    i have to go as well i fear .. no work tomorrow but .. was up at six both yesterday and today :/
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:16:48):    oki, I'll start my gaming report with flashgaming, and then meet someone in Heroes of the Storm; after that blizzardg aming.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:16:51):    aw, Namarie!
Arien V (01:17:05):    Namarie friends :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:19:34):    Personal gaming!

Ar-Pharazon-V (01:19:37):    Flashgaming:
(01:21:51) Elladan left this group chat.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:23:58):    First one is which is a very silly compilation of minigames on timers, for various stages and events of life.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:26:37): is the second game, a puzzle game that requires you to take apart jigsaw puzzles, one piece at a time. You get some very interesting types of pieces as you go, that make it quite difficult, but it's not actually possible to screw up, so that's nice.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:46:17): for the third game! Puzzle game, drag polyps and plankton to the right places to rebuild your reef, overcoming the gimmick in each level.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:48:29):    And don't forget to scare off the fish that come to eat you :)

Ar-Pharazon-V (03:12:32):    Blizzard gaming!
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:13:52):    Heroes of the Storm: level 214 now, with a few more levels on various heroes. Some new epic skins got too. This week's brawl was an old one, but a fun one, the Blackheart brawl, with one team trying to blow up the oncoming ship and the other team trying to stop them.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:14:49):    Hearthstone: Defeated the Lich King in the missions, with a nice jade idol druid deck, though it needed a lot of tries to get the turns right. But when it clicked, it really clicked :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:15:35):    Started taking stock for some decks for the other 8 classes I found online, not too many cards missing. I could already attempt the fight with a class or 2, but not a priority at the moment.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:16:33):    This week's brawl was a new one, but not that special; seems to be pre-fixed decks, Lich King-themed, for each class. Still, stuff with pre-fixed decks is always fun.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:17:40):    Starcraft II: War chest phase 3 started, with a new comic (though rather cliffhanger, with 2 named characters from the game and lore about to face each other in battle) and the last skins to unlock. That's going well, I'm well into tier 2 of the 5.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:17:51):    Should be less than 2 weeks to get all of them.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:18:08):    WoW:
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:20:44):    New raidboss slain, heroic Fallen Avatar! Only Kil'jaeden remains. Making some progress there. Dps requirements are a bit less tight (though transitioning early in some phases is really helpful) but it's mostly the mechanics to get under control. I've had a special role myself, playing third tank with a dps hybrid spec, to dps a bit while also catching all the large hails of armageddon and helping out with adds. I'm not sure if it's a sustainable role since we will want to go 2-tank eventually, but for progressing and practicing it's quite useful.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:21:52):    Got a new pet from the new Cataclysm raid selection, Tinytron from one of the Blackwing Descent bosses. True to the bossfight it comes from, it goes for a random color every time you summon it, really nice.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:23:34):    This week's weekly is 20 world quests, of which I have now done 17, so will finish that easily. No new pvp or pet master quests there, but I did unlock a new type of world quest, though I've only done 2 of those so far.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:25:35):    That's related to the Trial of Valor introduction questline which I finally embarked on, giving me access to Helarjar Landing world quests, which help with the collection of Trial of Valor soul fragments, something I started a long time ago when we were still raiding the place weekly but never got to finish. Between those quests, and the Trial quests themselves which I'll start on when the Illidan questline sends me in as well, I should make it to 1000 and unlock the appearance set you get as reward.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:26:49):    I'm at 28/40 soul fragments (yes, 2 separate questlines for 2 specific types of soul fragments, not very original) for the lllidan questline, having done more mythics, as well as regular Upper Karazhan heroics. They don't seem to drop from Lower Karazhan, alas.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:27:38):    Karazhan itself is also going well, today I finished the main questline there that's accessible through heroic mode, and the next step will be doing the mythic difficulty to get the quest-starter from Nightbane.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:28:47):    I also finished collecting the Nightshards from the Nighthold raid, which means I'm done there except for quests from both Suramar and the Balance of Power questline to kill Gul'dan, the last boss. But for story's sake I won't go for that until the Illidan questline is done.
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:29:24):    And finally I decided to pick up another falcosaur hatchling, this time the Stormheim type. Little thing was hard to find!
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:31:43):    Oh, almost forgot, got to revered with the Legionfall faction through basically class hall missions only, while having done very few quests for them. All that's left to unlock flying in this expansion for me is to explore one last corner of the Broken Shore, but I don't really feel like it yet since the questing I'm still doing feels more fun and authentic without being able to fly, though it would certainly speed up travel in some ways. At the latest I'll get it when I'm actually questing in the Broken Shore, which I should get to around the start of October, though I might give into the temptation earlier than that :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (03:32:10):    And that's my report for the week!
Ar-Pharazon-V (04:21:01):    namarie, sending transcript tomorrow