Valar Guild

May 21, 2017 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending (and at least said something making them visible): (4)
    Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Elladan, Eonwe, Falco/cmanderso, Varda (presiding)
    Real life names in the transcript changed to guild names. Huzzah for find and replace!

Meeting begins
    Arien's membership news in After-meeting.
    The Games Site changes! Under Gaming news.
    General gaming report by Eonwe and others.
       New game Destiny 2.
    Topic: Return of the... lots of things!
    RP plans for the next batch of posts (our forum group story).
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon
    Personal gaming by Ar-Pharazon

Varda Valar (22:37:01):    Aiya
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:37:06):    Aiya!
Elladan (22:37:17):    Aloha!
Varda Valar (22:37:24):    Still 25 minutes. :)
Varda Valar (22:37:31):    Aloha :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:37:34):    Note to be able to find it later when I edit: May 21 transcript starts here.
Varda Valar (22:37:40):    Also in Discord
Varda Valar (22:37:46):    Good idea.
Eonwe Valar (22:37:56):    Salutations :}
Varda Valar (22:38:11):    Good to see you all. :)
Elladan (22:40:03):    I'm half here
Elladan (22:40:17):    I fell twice out of my chair and I am very sore
Varda Valar (22:40:22):    In LotRO and Discord at the moment.
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:40:29):    Unstable chair?
Varda Valar (22:40:30):    Quit that, Elladan!
Elladan (22:41:56):    nope, really bad spasms
Varda Valar (22:48:39):    No meds for that?
Varda Valar (22:48:59):    or massage gadget maybe?
Elladan (22:50:39):    I'm on a few different meds
Elladan (22:50:59):    it's due to the spinal reflex. Common occurrence in paraplegics
Elladan (22:51:07):    I got sucked back into wow! :)
Varda Valar (22:51:10):    So, maybe a seat belt.
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:51:11):    Huzzah!
Eonwe Valar (22:51:14):    Afk for a moment.
Varda Valar (22:51:16):    Did you get into Lothar?
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:51:17):    Azeroth welcomes you.
Elladan (22:51:22):    hah yep!
Varda Valar (22:51:30):    Welcome home :)
Elladan (22:51:32):    got a few toons already to 103-104
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:52:06):    I bet your demon hunter is a cross between Elladan and Illidan!
Elladan (22:52:14):    HAH!
Elladan (22:53:38):    been on my druid mostly
Elladan (22:59:08):    maybe tomorrow :)
Elladan (22:59:16):    if we have time
Varda Valar (22:59:47):    Anyone else downloaded Discord?
Varda Valar (22:59:54):    Just got Falco in there too.
Elladan (22:59:54):    yep
Ar-Pharazon-V (22:59:57):    Downloaded, yes :P
Elladan (23:00:04):    what's the server addy?
Varda Valar (23:00:21):    [deleted from transcript]
Varda Valar (23:00:29):    Temporary for use today
Varda Valar (23:01:43):    Say something when you come in the channel so I can promote you.
Elladan (23:01:56):    I can't say anything
Varda Valar (23:01:56):    Then on our server you can type /nick Elladan
Varda Valar (23:02:03):    and your name will show that way
Elladan (23:02:04):    had to send verification email
Elladan (23:02:11):    not showing in inbox lol
Varda Valar (23:02:19):    Wyrm?
Varda Valar (23:03:01):    o ok. Saw someone named Wyrm show up
Elladan (23:03:07):    that's me
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:03:23):    Smaug?
Eonwe Valar (23:03:32):    Back
Varda Valar (23:03:57):    Aiya
Varda Valar (23:04:08):    Getting a nice-sized crew in Discord now :)
Varda Valar (23:04:21):    Anyone else coming in?
Varda Valar (23:04:26):    Fangorn says hello :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:04:33):    Aiya Fangorn
Eonwe Valar (23:04:50):    Heya to Fangorn.
Varda Valar (23:06:44):    Pulling out of LotRO now
Varda Valar (23:06:52):    Still in Discord and AIM
Varda Valar (23:07:27):    If anyone else is joining in Discord, please let me know. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:07:41):    still passing for now :)
Varda Valar (23:07:44):    I can give the ability to change the name to our actual members.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:08:02):    as long as meeting's in here, I'm good ;)
Eonwe Valar (23:08:20):    I see irony in a group called "The Valar Guild" considering a program called "Discord."
Varda Valar (23:08:23):    Working on moving it, but need folks there.
Varda Valar (23:08:26):    Aye.
Varda Valar (23:08:41):    It's already causing Discord, but at least it's mild. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:08:44):    Sounds like a suggestion we would've got from Melkor, hehehehehe.
Varda Valar (23:08:54):    It's quite popular in LotRO.
Varda Valar (23:09:12):    Gil-galad was the most recent one to suggest it. I've been in it since 2015.
Eonwe Valar (23:09:55):    Aye, I speak of course according to the Ainulindalë, where it was Melkor who caused Discord in the Music :}
Varda Valar (23:10:14):    Aye :)
Varda Valar (23:10:17):    Very fitting.
Varda Valar (23:10:26):    Love to get Melkor-(Valar) in there. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:10:36):    Chat program's made by Melkor? Doesn't surprise me much...
Varda Valar (23:10:43):    hehe
Varda Valar (23:11:04):    ok, attempted to get us set up on both programs. :)
Varda Valar (23:11:18):    Two people don't want anything to do with AIM but willing to use Discord. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:11:51):    I'm willing to switch when it's required, but I don't wish to have to pay attention to both ;)
Varda Valar (23:12:15):    You don't have to. :)
Varda Valar (23:12:33):    During the meeting, for now, I"m mainly paying attention to AIM.
Varda Valar (23:12:41):    If we move, then it will be over there.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:12:49):    *nods* just let me know
Varda Valar (23:13:06):    You can have it set up and then ignore it if you want, heh.
Varda Valar (23:13:10):    Is Arein around?
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:13:23):    I'll check.
Varda Valar (23:14:09):    The number of Valar Guild chats on the buddy list has gotten very large.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:14:12):    she's on her way
Varda Valar (23:14:19):    Thank you :)
Arien V (23:14:43):    aiya all :)
Varda Valar (23:14:51):    Aiya Arien :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:14:50):    Aiya!
Arien V (23:15:01):    sorry for that .. got into rp and .. oh well as things go :)
Varda Valar (23:15:02):    Don't see Gilraen
Varda Valar (23:15:15):    Glad you can be here too. Thanks for coming!

Varda Valar (23:15:28):    Elen sila lumenn'omentielvo!
Varda Valar (23:15:32):    Membership:
Varda Valar (23:16:03):    Any membership news from you folks?
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:16:10):    Kinda...
Varda Valar (23:16:27):    Fire away :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:16:32):    Was crashing a lot this week and past weeks, was afraid I'd need to get new computer parts
Varda Valar (23:16:42):    or cable
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:16:58):    but after rigorous testing of memory, graphics, and stuff like that, I finally decided to give the whole thing a good dusting.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:17:15):    And apparently bicycle pump applied to the inside of a pc works wonders!
Varda Valar (23:17:34):    Egad! Hear that? Everyone be sure to clean your PC!
Varda Valar (23:17:42):    *runs off to buy a bicycle pump*
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:17:47):    hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:17:55):    In any case, it seems stable now :)
Eonwe Valar (23:18:05):    I hope you wore a mask, hehe.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:18:05):    so that's my pc news!
Eonwe Valar (23:18:22):    Sounds like the air might've been a little thick when you cleaned it out :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:18:25):    I underestimated the dust cloud, yes ;)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:18:41):    some coughing and sneezing afterwards
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:18:50):    but that just means it works :D
Eonwe Valar (23:19:01):    :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:19:24):    Oh, I've also got a web-related thing for the next section.
Varda Valar (23:19:47):    Any other membership news?

Varda Valar (23:20:00):    Web:
(23:20:55) vardavalar1 added cmanderso to this group chat.
Varda Valar (23:21:16):    Falco, did you make it?
Falco (23:21:20):    Hi
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:21:34):    Aiya!
Falco (23:21:35):    Thanks for the Invite
Varda Valar (23:21:39):    Welcome to the meeting. :)
Varda Valar (23:21:57):    We just were moving from Membership to Web, good timing!

Varda Valar (23:22:10):    Phar, go ahead with your Web news.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:22:22):    Well, kinda related to the chat stuff we were talking about earlier...
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:22:43):    for those few still using it sometimes, it's pretty much lights out for MSN/Windows Live Messenger now.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:23:28):    It was already disabled primarily a couple of years ago, and merged into Skype, but there were still ways around it with addon programs and apparently also in Asia or something...
Arien V (23:23:55):    hello Falco :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:24:04):    But this week, the last servers have gone down for the needed protocols, just leaving the one for Skype. So... RIP my oldest messenger :(
Varda Valar (23:24:22):    Thanks for letting us know. That's good information.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:24:23): for those who want more details
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:24:53):    I still had some friends in there who were sometimes online, but I think most of them were via Skype anyway. Bit sad though, lost contact with a lot of people who were never using it anymore anyway ;)

Varda Valar (23:25:39):    That is a real problem. We've lost a number of people in a similar way.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:25:43):    Hmhm.
Varda Valar (23:25:55):    Trying to make sure everyone here has a way to contact the others, at least for now by the forum.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:26:09):    Forum should remain useful for a long time at least!
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:26:49):    I may give it a few weeks and then switch over to Skype, though I don't like the way it bogs down my pc. All the more reason not to add Discord just yet, I suppose!
Varda Valar (23:27:04):    We still have our old one on Yahoo too. But folks don't use it. Migration is tough.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:27:13):    Yep.
Varda Valar (23:27:18):    Discord is supposed to bog you less than Skype.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:27:37):    Yes, but Skype still should have a way to keep the MSN contacts.
Varda Valar (23:27:55):    and Discord to help keep up the Valar contacts. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:27:57):    Having Discord and AIM up is rather less useful than having one of em and MSN/Skype ;)
Varda Valar (23:28:14):    aye, just turn off Discord when not using it. I do.
Varda Valar (23:28:46):    We shall muddle through. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:29:07):    Eh, I've made a little more of an effort to have AIM up in my free time when I can since the update.
Varda Valar (23:29:37):    Am I typing in the right place? :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:29:49):    I always keep AIM up when I'm online.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:30:07):    Even though I may not talk much outside of the meetings :)
Eonwe Valar (23:30:44):    It's nice that the channel auto-opens so once I log into AIM, I'm here. And yes, you're typing here, Varda :}
Varda Valar (23:30:49):    You are pretty good about answering outside. :)
Varda Valar (23:30:55):    Thanks
Varda Valar (23:31:52):    Ok, enough about that in the main chat at least. Feel free to ask for invites in a side window, for Discord.
Varda Valar (23:32:13):    No new info on the Tolkien Site, my apologies.
Varda Valar (23:32:33):    I hope to hit the Timeline again for you this week, fortune allowing.
Varda Valar (23:32:48):    Any new articles, stories, art, are welcome. :)

Varda Valar (23:32:53):    Gaming:
Varda Valar (23:33:03):    Eonwe, can you give the general gaming report?
Eonwe Valar (23:33:20):    Certainly.
Varda Valar (23:33:30):    Thank you. :)

Eonwe Valar (23:34:14):    World of Warcraft:
Eonwe Valar (23:34:35):     Two blogs were put up this week: PvP: Rewarding Prestige and A Found Memento: Raising a King.
Eonwe Valar (23:34:53):    Check out the latest hotfixes.
Eonwe Valar (23:34:59):    WoW Lothar:
Eonwe Valar (23:35:56):    Bofur, Nob, Arien, and Eowyn as well as Eonwe were on this week.
Eonwe Valar (23:36:33):    Both Bofur and I got a new legendary in that time.
Varda Valar (23:36:59):    Nice. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:37:15):    Nob earlier today got an achievement in for a mythic dungeon, and I got to Prestige Level 2 (a pvp ranking) so I could unlock some appearances for my artifacts.
Elladan (23:37:28):    I got all 4 of my artifacts for my druid today :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:37:42):    Grats!

Eonwe Valar (23:37:46):    Starcraft 2:
Eonwe Valar (23:38:07):    Two previews for patch 3.14 are out: Patch 3.14 Preview: Tastosis Announcer and Patch 3.14 Preview: New Premiere Skin Bundle.
Eonwe Valar (23:38:22):    The second is probably not so interesting unless you don't mind spending money for cosmetics in SC2.

Eonwe Valar (23:38:43):    Diablo 3:
Eonwe Valar (23:39:07):    There have been more updates to the necromancer beta patch notes.

Eonwe Valar (23:39:20):    Heroes of the Storm:
Eonwe Valar (23:39:44):    The new patch is out and D.Va is in.

Eonwe Valar (23:40:09):    Hearthstone:
Eonwe Valar (23:40:21):    New features are coming.

Eonwe Valar (23:40:35):    Destiny 2:
Eonwe Valar (23:40:58):    For those interested in Destiny 2, it will be coming to the Blizzard App when it's released. Get the details in the announcement and if you're interested in the game go to the official Destiny 2 website.
Arien V (23:41:21):    aye i have read it
Arien V (23:41:32):    i am not sure what it is
Arien V (23:41:40):    I dont know Destiny at all
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:41:44):    An FPS with MMO elements, I heard?
Varda Valar (23:42:03):    Enough trouble keeping up with my current games. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:42:06):    Somethign like that sounds about right.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:42:13):    Activision game hitching a ride on the blizzard game distribution system.
Elladan (23:42:15):    I have Destiny for Xbox One
Eonwe Valar (23:42:21):    I've dabbled in it since my brother bought it. Not bad over all.
Varda Valar (23:42:41):    Hi to Dracxil. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:43:03):    Made by Bungie, the same guys who made Halo, and thos ewere some pretty solid games. I'm not usually big on FPS overall, but I could play those.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:43:15):    Not my genre, and I'm not interested in a new franchise that isn't even actually Blizzard. I don't know if characters will appear in Heroes, but that still won't bring me in :)
Varda Valar (23:43:34):    Nice to hear about though.
Eonwe Valar (23:43:37):    Free Will is lovely like that :}
Varda Valar (23:43:59):    :)
Eonwe Valar (23:44:09):    But aye, the reason I even mention it is because many of us do play Blizzard games.
Varda Valar (23:44:39):    Our beginning was there.
Eonwe Valar (23:44:39):    What that forbodes for the future of what used to be called "" we'll see.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:44:43):    being on the blizzard app does mean it gets the same communication benefits as blizzard games, though.
Eonwe Valar (23:44:51):    Aye.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:44:54):    Which means you can see and talk to your friends playing it :)
Varda Valar (23:44:57):    Welcome to Discord. ;)
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:45:08):    full circle?
Eonwe Valar (23:45:12):    Or Steam? ;}
Varda Valar (23:45:13):    We can tell which game people are in or not in.
Eonwe Valar (23:46:09):    Anyway, I'm done with general gaming news.
Varda Valar (23:46:17):    Aye, Scatha still keeps Steam up for us.
Varda Valar (23:46:22):    Thank you, Eonwe. :)

Varda Valar (23:46:24):    LotRO:
Varda Valar (23:46:53):    This week and the rest of the day, the Featured Instance aka box run is the Sword Halls of Guldur.
Varda Valar (23:47:30):    We are in a Welcome Back weekend, meaning extra experience. The heart buff on your character portrait is a quick way to know it's going.
Varda Valar (23:47:50):    The Year 6 questing is going.
Varda Valar (23:48:27):    The splash art for the Black Gate was done by an artist we're all familiar with. Take a look when you can:
Varda Valar (23:48:29):
Varda Valar (23:48:48):    Any other LotRO news?
Varda Valar (23:49:32):    We are dragging our LotRO players into Discord for gaming as well as chat.

Varda Valar (23:49:48):    Any other business, suggestions, kudos, raspberries?
Falco (23:50:02):    :P
Eonwe Valar (23:50:17):    Well, business, of sorts..
Varda Valar (23:50:22):    Go ahead.
Varda Valar (23:50:32):    One raspberry given, hehe

Eonwe Valar (23:51:57):    "The world is changed..."
Eonwe Valar (23:52:10):    "I feel it in the water..."
Eonwe Valar (23:52:23):    "I feel it in the earth...."
Arien V (23:52:56):    i feel it in the air/
Eonwe Valar (23:52:57):    "I see it in the... Games Site?"
Arien V (23:53:00):    ?
Eonwe Valar (23:53:11):    Well, you will, soon :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:53:36):    dun dun dun
Varda Valar (23:53:46):    *roll of drums*
Varda Valar (23:54:14):    When do you think you'll be rolling it out?
Eonwe Valar (23:54:35):    All goes well, later tonight :}
Varda Valar (23:54:48):    o wow. That's soon!
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:54:47):    Your "tonight"?
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:54:51):    Remind me tomorrow then :)
Eonwe Valar (23:54:55):    My "tonight" yes :}
Varda Valar (23:54:58):    Valar time. :)
Arien V (23:55:17):    ;0
Arien V (23:55:25):    :)
Eonwe Valar (23:55:33):    So if you can't access the Games Site tonight for some reason, chances are that's why :}
Arien V (23:55:48):    all right :)
Varda Valar (23:56:00):    Good to know, especially when working on the transcript. :)
Eonwe Valar (23:56:22):    :}
Varda Valar (23:56:54):    Defnitely looking forward to checking out the live version!

Varda Valar (23:58:17):    Also, left out the Seen this week section in today's meeting during Gaming. Adding in now.

Varda Valar (23:58:20):    LotRO:
Varda Valar (23:58:24):   
Varda Valar (23:58:42):    Anyone else have their game's Valarite list for this past week?

Arien V (23:59:06):    WoW Europe :
Arien V (23:59:20):    Ar Pharacon< Helm< Menelvagor
Varda Valar (23:59:38):    Menel? long time no see. Good to hear.
Ar-Pharazon-V (23:59:44):    what server's Menel on these days?
Arien V (23:59:58):    yeah noticed him active on Lightbringer i think
Monday, May 22, 2017
Arien V (00:00:16):    in the battlenet
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:00:43):    Fladrif's also been online in bnet this week, it seems!
Varda Valar (00:01:13):    Nice. That's three active Ents.
Varda Valar (00:02:52):    Any more news? That was enough to topple the internet already.
Varda Valar (00:03:02):    If not, we can move to

Varda Valar (00:03:05):    Tolkien!
Varda Valar (00:03:36):    We have all heard of a book title called "Return of the King
Varda Valar (00:03:54):    For our chat, it's "Return of the.. who else?"
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:04:21):    Return of the Ring to where it was made.
Varda Valar (00:04:23):    Some characters made returns, sometimes surprising. Who might some of these have been?
Varda Valar (00:04:31):    Good one, Phar.
Eonwe Valar (00:04:48):    Return of the King of Rohan? :}
Varda Valar (00:05:19):    Interesting, and true. Theoden came back from being held down by Grima and Saruman.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:05:42):    Return of the Hobbits to the Shire, only to find things they did not expect.
Varda Valar (00:06:02):    good one.
Eonwe Valar (00:06:07):    Return of Saruman to the story after we thought we were done with him, hehe.
Varda Valar (00:06:12):    Saruman, returning to the Shire, aye.
Varda Valar (00:06:39):    A bit of his Voice may still have been working, at least over time, on Treebeard.
Varda Valar (00:06:54):    Maybe helped collect Ruffians and sway hobbits.
Eonwe Valar (00:07:02):    Return of *the* Lobelia Sackville-Baggins :}
Varda Valar (00:07:09):    yay!
Varda Valar (00:07:20):    Return of the Silver Spoons.
Eonwe Valar (00:07:58):    The Return of Samwise Gamgee? He *did* say he was back :}
Varda Valar (00:08:06):    Gollum returned to the outside world.
Varda Valar (00:08:13):    He did, indeed. :)
Varda Valar (00:08:35):    Sauron's return.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:08:36):    Return of the Palantir from Isengard to the heir of Numenor.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:09:51):    Return of Faramir from Ithilien/Osgiliath to Minas Tirith, only to be sent out again and being brought back again.
Varda Valar (00:10:15):    And there and back again to Ithilien.
Eonwe Valar (00:10:26):    Return of the Ents to acting in the events of the world.
Varda Valar (00:10:48):    Return of Galadriel to Valinor.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:11:12):    Return to life of Gandalf, then return to Valinor.
Eonwe Valar (00:11:36):    That was in Two Towers. Does that count?
Varda Valar (00:11:38):    Return of Gimli to the Glittering Caves, a visit and then as Lord of the Glittering Caves of Aglarond.
Varda Valar (00:11:50):    Any return idea works. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:11:54):    OK :}
Varda Valar (00:12:11):    Including Luthien and Beren returning to life for a time. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:12:12):    The Return of the Nazgul :}
Eonwe Valar (00:12:45):    Ring Wars: A New Hope... Oops, wrong theme.
Varda Valar (00:12:54):    heh
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:13:23):    Well if we're stepping outside of LotR, we've also got the return of Durin's line to Erebor.
Varda Valar (00:13:28):    The return of Glorfindel to Middle-earth
Varda Valar (00:13:42):    Anything by JRRT is fine. :)
Varda Valar (00:14:02):    It was just a play with that one title to explain the chat theme.
Eonwe Valar (00:14:04):    Wel, I can tell you who *won't* be returning, and that's Fëanor :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:14:08):    and after that to Moria!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:14:19):    and after that *again* to Moria!
Varda Valar (00:14:32):    Re-returns work too. :)
Varda Valar (00:15:28):    The return of Numenoreans from Numenor to Middle-earth.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:16:12):    The return of the Noldor from Valinor to Middle-earth.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:16:23):    And 600 years later, re-return to Valinor for those who'd take it.
Eonwe Valar (00:18:42):    The return of Ar-Pharazon the Golden and his fleet?
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:19:16):    Return to where? We didn't start in Valinor :) Though I guess we went to Middle-earth and back.
Eonwe Valar (00:19:30):    Return *from* the Forgotten Caves :}
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:20:08):    Ah yes, eventually!
Varda Valar (00:21:49):    The fleet is flinders.
Varda Valar (00:22:05):    but might dig you out to help make the new Arda. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:22:14):    Maybe I built a new one in the caves.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:22:25):    From what? Who knows? Maybe they're made of rock.
Arien V (00:22:37):    Return of the Beleriand Survivors to Middlearth?
Varda Valar (00:22:40):    Origami? Small carvings? We can expand them for you.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:23:10):    What does a small human, but undying army do when trapped in a cave for thousands of years?
Arien V (00:23:16):    Return of the Kingship to the Numenorean line?
Varda Valar (00:23:20):    That's an intersting thought. Not much told about the elves at the time of the sinking of Beleriand.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:23:32):    I'm sure we carve and create until we've settled in nicely and have a bunch of stone chairs and tables and small boats to pretend we're sailing :)
Varda Valar (00:23:57):    Lots of tunneling and making side rooms for the stuff you make too.
Varda Valar (00:24:07):    Storage, always a problem. :)
Varda Valar (00:24:25):    The mound of dirt by their hole keeps growing!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:24:29):    Not when we use the same materials we get from carving out said storage space to make the things we store in them.
Arien V (00:24:36):    well it seems like the golf of Forochel was the very edge of the Beleriand coast so thats the only stretch of land that survived from that time
Elladan (00:25:01):    Never fails. I get someone always asking about my Super Simian Sphere :P
Varda Valar (00:25:03):    So they jumped in their boats, or made a fast climb through the mountains
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:25:52):    Well, as long as you *reach* the mountains, you can wait until the water rises and float to the mountain tops :)
Varda Valar (00:26:15):    Good point.
Arien V (00:26:47):    hmm if you think .. there is whole land stretches under water on the east side of britain
Arien V (00:26:55):    towards Denmark
Varda Valar (00:27:06):    Water elves!
Varda Valar (00:27:34):    Far-fetched fun.
Varda Valar (00:27:55):    If they drowned, they wound up in Valinor.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:27:56):    Yep. During last ice age we could walk to the UK from here.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:28:01):    It'd take a while, but still.
Varda Valar (00:28:05):    And Valinor is as big as we want it to be.
Arien V (00:28:12):    We know that there have been settlements there .. so i wonder although little survived there i would think some made it to the mainland
Arien V (00:28:39):    well mainland .. the higher levels ..
Arien V (00:28:57):    you know what i mean :) what didnt get flooded
Varda Valar (00:29:21):    Mountain elves. :)
Arien V (00:29:37):    yeah :)
Varda Valar (00:30:12):    Sounds as if we should be adding to our fan fic with these thoughts
Arien V (00:30:59):    :)
Arien V (00:31:08):    gives good material
Varda Valar (00:31:19):    We are running out of time, but we can add more if we like during After-meeting. :)
Varda Valar (00:31:40):    *catches a hammer as it goes by on the conveyor belt in the nearby shelf*
Varda Valar (00:31:48):    *splooooosh!*
Arien V (00:31:57):    all right :) i have to add some membership news in aftermeeting as well .. since i missed that ^^
Eonwe Valar (00:32:06):    For those in the RP, if we're still interested in it, my next post coming soon, as a two-parter.
Varda Valar (00:32:11):    *the hammer sogs us all, then slithers back to the shelf*

Varda Valar (00:32:14):    After-meeting!
Varda Valar (00:32:26):    Ahh, we look forward to your two-parter post!
Arien V (00:32:27):    uh that landed in water!
Arien V (00:32:35):    thrown too far?
Varda Valar (00:32:44):    Hammer turned to water.
Arien V (00:32:52):    ah i see
Varda Valar (00:32:54):    A lot of water.
Arien V (00:33:05):    interesting hammer
Varda Valar (00:33:16):    I suspect the Hand of Ulmo was in Aule's apprentice shop, knowing we borrow their hammers for gavels.
Varda Valar (00:33:30):    *yep, salty water*
Arien V (00:33:36):    *shines sunrays on and a myriad of colors break away from it *
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:33:36):    I'm amazed you still managed to pick it up.
Varda Valar (00:33:56):    I am Varda. :)
Varda Valar (00:34:13):    Nice colors!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:34:54):    Like a prism, that also works.
Arien V (00:35:06):    aye :)

Arien V (00:35:54):    yes my missed membership news . feel free to fit them in the right place when you do the transscript
Varda Valar (00:36:05):    Links work. :)
Eonwe Valar (00:36:29):    Part 1 of my post will get everyone together, stop, and then everyone will have a chance to post their arrival/perspective. Part 2 will pick up with Auros and what he's learned, and move us forward towards our goal.
Arien V (00:37:04):    Next Sunday I am not going to be at the meeting likely , since we are going to attend a wedding in Denmark :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:10):    Enjoy!
Arien V (00:37:17):    and sounds cool Eonwe :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:37:25):    Indeed it does.
Arien V (00:38:13):    we are spending a few days with Bruces parents in the south of Scotland who are on holiday up there and then flying out friday and come back Monday
Arien V (00:38:38):    bring the car to MOT on Tuesday and back to work on Wednesday
Arien V (00:38:50):    that was my news :)
Eonwe Valar (00:41:09):    Have fun :}
Varda Valar (00:41:25):    Thanks! We will watch for it!
Varda Valar (00:41:37):    Huzzah for weddings!
Varda Valar (00:43:21):    Sounds like a great trip. :)

Eonwe Valar (00:43:51):    I need to be off now, so take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}
Varda Valar (00:43:58):    Namarie!
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:44:22):    Namarie!
Arien V (00:48:06):    Namarie Eonwe and i should go upstairs as well .. to pack and get myself to bed ^^ , we are not leaving too early tomorrow but still .. dont want to rush :)
Varda Valar (00:48:29):    Ànd she's teaching me how to talk. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:48:49):    How to talk?
Varda Valar (00:49:30):    Discord :)
Arien V (00:49:31):    aye in discord
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:50:01):    ah
Varda Valar (00:54:09):    Arien has a great voice. :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:54:25):    Ah, the voice functin.
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:54:27):    *tion.
Arien V (00:54:45):    right dear people .. i ll have to go now :) before i fall asleep or yawn Varda full ^
Varda Valar (00:55:01):    Helps not to have the push to talk going in the typing spot. :)
Arien V (00:56:33):    nah control key works quite fine ^^#
Arien V (00:56:49):    was awkward in Eve but its cool in WoW ^^
Arien V (00:57:18):    constantly needed the control key for something else hehe
Ar-Pharazon-V (00:57:30):    Yes, ctrl in WoW doesn't seem to do much except health-bars and switching off the interface for screenshots.
Elladan (00:57:45):    I use the alt key
Varda Valar (00:58:05):    I was using `the tilde
Arien V (00:58:34):    ah i guess that works too - good idea
Arien V (01:00:18):    Namarie then for now and i ll see you next week :) maybe i can make it in game with the laptop , depending on whether they have broadband in there or not
Varda Valar (01:00:35):    Namarie
Elladan (01:00:44):    Namarie
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:01:18):    namarie!
Lenwe (-V) (01:25:53):    Aiya everyone :) Still getting used to meetings starting at 3pm rather than 5, sorry!
Varda Valar (01:26:09):    Aiya Lenwe :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:26:08):    Aiya! They're still at the same time for me ;)
Varda Valar (01:26:25):    Nothing like moving over a few states :)
Lenwe (-V) (01:26:55):    I'll get used to it eventually, but it's in my mind that supper time is also meeting time
Varda Valar (01:27:12):    So now it's after lunch
Lenwe (-V) (01:27:17):    Maybe I should try setting an alarm next week :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:27:19):    You eat at 5? That seems early...
Varda Valar (01:27:23):    Alarming
Varda Valar (01:27:39):    5 or even 4:30 is not unusual
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:30:41):    We always eat between 6 and 7.
Varda Valar (01:30:59):    Perfectly reasonable time
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:31:05):    Maybe we're the exceptions?
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:31:31):    *checks time* I'll give my personal report in half an hour or so, after I meet up with someone in Storm :)
Varda Valar (01:32:04):    Nice thing about a transcript is the long time space doesn't make a clear space.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:32:36):    Aw, person went offline 4 minutes ago, probably didn't think I'd show on time. He needs to get up early on weekdays.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:32:40):    Guess I'll start here now :)
Varda Valar (01:33:00):    Sorry you missed him
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:33:21):    It's fine, I'm often late because of other stuff, and he knows about the meeting :)
Varda Valar (01:33:48):    Not a LotR fan? :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:33:53):    Not that I know of.

Ar-Pharazon-V (01:33:56):    Gaming report time!

Ar-Pharazon-V (01:34:13):    For flashgames:
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:35:49): is the first. A point-and-click time management game. Travel around and explore, talk to people, collect stuff, build your defenses and hold out against an impending zombie attack. If you fail, try again and experiment with which ways work the best :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:36:20):    Simple, but can be difficult in finding out which combinations work. Depending on actions and result, you can get several different endings.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:38:29): is the second game! Simple platformer, avoid the falling circles, collect bonuses to give you an advantage, collect stars to unlock different models for your character.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:39:24):    For an increasingly difficult series of levels, choose the challenges, but you can also go freestyle and see how long you last.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:41:23):    Having some trouble getting it to save star progress, but eh.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:46:25): is the third! Title says it all: Idle game, tower defense game, if you're familiar with those genres. Build towers, let them shoot enemies, get them upgraded and more powerful, reset for prestige when you hit a progress-ceiling, so to speak :)

Ar-Pharazon-V (01:49:06):    Blizzard games!
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:50:30):    Heroes of the Storm: Level 189. Got the last weekly quest for the Overwatch crossover promotion done, which got me a good amount of loot chests, containing some new skins and other goodies.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:51:00):    Still working on this week's brawl, which is 3 short matches of a custom temple shrine map with random heroes. Can be tough, but it's fast.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:51:58):    Diablo 3: Still going to rifts, making some progress. Currently level 41, and moved to expert difficulty so I should level a bit faster from here on. Slow going, but still got a good amount of time left.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:54:05):    Hearthstone: Doing a bit of class-catch up, when quests allow. This week's brawl was 2 adventure bosses against each other, each with interesting abilities and cards. I won my match with Rafaam, with an upgradable hero-ability allowing you to summon rarer cards for greater discounts.
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:55:43):    WoW: No new northrend raid stuff, but I did get some good loot in Nighthold raiding, and my sixth legendary - one of the best for Feral specialization - in a world quest. It left some gaps in my gear because I had to switch stuff around, but managed to fill both gaps in today's raid, including getting the best feral dps trinket from the raid :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:57:23):    It's been a slow week for marks of honor, but I did get a few more pet masters fought, and have no fought all 15 pet masters with a humanoid family. Plan is to complete that for all the others too. For other world quests, a couple of rare elite quests were up that I hadn't seen yet. My list grows :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:57:33):    no->now
Ar-Pharazon-V (01:59:14):    This week's weekly quest was mythic dungeons, doing 4 to get a reward. I also still needed to do 4 dungeons with a hidden appearance to unlock the last one, so that worked out perfectly.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:00:15):    One of the 4 was Darkheart Thicket, where I finally got my moonkin base hidden appearance - well, half of it, the other was available for a vendor for exalted reputation, so I had access to that ages ago already - so now I've got every hidden druid appearance, with every variation, for every spec!
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:01:25):    ...Actually, now that I think about it, that was *last week's* weekly quest, but I only completed it on tuesday, so it still counts for this week's report :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:02:18):    This week's weekly quest is actually winning 5 pvp pet battles. Took me a bit, but I completed it today, getting a special pet leveling stone which I used to get my warden owl from level 1 to 25. Seems quite a useful little pet, with Darkness ability.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:03:20):    So yeah, some interesting accomplishments and acquisitions this week, but my other activities have been quite slow.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:03:42):    I've not been able to do any Suramar questing, except pick up a new sidequest which I haven't actually done anything about yet... maybe next week.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:04:19):    (blame my earlier pc troubles, and the end-of-season summer barbecue and ball at my dancing school on saturday)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:04:54):    And I've not had much luck with the appearances from heroic Durnholde either, only getting one or two pieces. Still, some progress is some progress!
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:05:54):    I suppose I could add that starting Mythic difficulty Nighthold is now being looked into, though it'll be a while before we can make progress there!
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:06:54):    And that's my report for this week!

Ar-Pharazon-V (02:08:42):    And now I'll go finish my Heroes of the Storm brawl :)
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:10:32):    Giving out a loot chest at the end of each weekly brawl is quite a clever idea by Blizzard. It makes it worthwhile to go through em, but since they're no longer unique rewards, you're not actually pressured if you don't have time for it, or really feel like you're missing out if you forget.
Ar-Pharazon-V (02:10:50):    Perfect balance, really.
Ar-Pharazon-V (04:23:01):    Making transcript.
Varda Valar (04:23:14):    Thanks