Valar Guild

January 29, 2017 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (7)
    Arien-(Valar)/AriehnV, Ar-Pharazon-(V)/ArPharazonV, Elladan-(V)/Scott92027, Eonwe-(Valar)/Eonwe Valar, Erkenbrand-(V), Eru-(Valar)/eru68, Varda-(Valar)/VardaValar1 (presiding)

Meeting begins
    Tolkien Site / Art::
       New art by the Bohemian Weasel-(T) put online today:
          Image link: Words of comfort by Gandalf to Frodo. Extra info on pages for Frodo or for Gandalf.
    Tolkien Site / Stories
       New story chapter this last week by Little Jewel-(T).
    Games report by Eonwe
    Topic: Gandalf and his changing technique in aiding the free people of Middle-earth, as Olorin, the Grey, and the White.
    Tolkien chat continues.
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon
    Personal gaming by Ar-Pharazon

Ar-Pharazon-V (ArPharazonV) has entered the room.
Varda Valar (VardaValar1) has entered the room.
Varda Valar: Aiya Phar. :-)   Plenty of time left, no worries.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya!
Arien V (AriehnV) has entered the room.
Varda Valar: Aiya Sunshine :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya!
Arien V: Aiya all :-)
Arien V: how are you?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Good, got my second Legion legendary tonight :-)
Arien V: :-D congrats
Ar-Pharazon-V: Thanks!
Varda Valar: Nice :-)
Eonwe Valar (Eonwe Valar) has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya/
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya!
Eonwe Valar: Invitations sent to Elladan, Gilraen, Gwaihir, and Farmer Maggot.
Arien V: Aiya Eonwe \;)
Eonwe Valar: How goes it?
Varda Valar: Eonwe, aiya :-)
Arien V: going well thank you :-)
Varda Valar: Thanks. I'll try not to cross those up then :-)
Elladan (Scott92027) has entered the room.

Elladan: Aiya kin!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya!
Arien V: aiya Elladan :-)
Eru (eru68) has entered the room.
Varda Valar: Aiya Eru and Elladan :-)
Eru: Aiya, all.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya!
Varda Valar: Ok, out of LotRO now.
Elladan: aiya
Elladan: sorry, spasm attack
Elladan: lol
Varda Valar: Pauses expected, although preferably not for that reason.

Varda Valar: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Varda Valar: Membership:
Varda Valar: Great to have so many here already. :-)
Varda Valar: Any membership news anyone would like to pass along?
Arien V: i ve got a few days holidays :-)
Varda Valar: Huzzah!
Arien V: until Friday so back to work on saturday
Varda Valar: Nice stretch of time. Enjoy!
Arien V: oh yeah and gonna get a year closer to half a century *shiver*
Varda Valar: Hey, 50 can be a very active time. Don't let it worry you. Passed that over a decade ago.
Varda Valar: Happy upcoming birthday :-)
Arien V: cheers :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Happy future birthday!
Arien V: thats it from me as far as membership is concerned
Ar-Pharazon-V: And all future birthdays.
Elladan: yep happy birthday!
Arien V: hehe thanks Phari ^^
Varda Valar: Yay for excuses for cake!

Varda Valar: Web:
Varda Valar: Tolkien Site / Stories:
Varda Valar: Chapter 10 is online for "Learning to Smile" by Little Jewel-(T).. She's working on the next one.

Varda Valar: Tolkien Site / Art::
Varda Valar: New art by the Bohemian Weasel-(T):
Varda Valar: Image link: Words of comfort by Gandalf to Frodo. Extra info on pages for Frodo or for Gandalf.
Varda Valar: Any other web news, nifty Tolkien links?

Varda Valar: Gaming:
Varda Valar: Eonwe has the gaming report for us. Take it away, Eonwe!
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}

Eonwe Valar: Lord of the Rings Online:
Eonwe Valar: A new Producer's Letter has been posted, telling us about plans going forward, including Mordor and High Elves. Read it to find out more.

Eonwe Valar: World of Warcraft:
Eonwe Valar: Want to unlock flying in the Broken Isles as soon as possible? Check out part of what's needed in the blog Unlocking Flying: Pathfinder Part One.
Eonwe Valar: Check out the latest hotfixes.

Eonwe Valar: Diablo 3:
Eonwe Valar: The Necromancer Q&A is viewable on different venues. Check them out and choose your venue from this post on the D3 official forums.
Eonwe Valar: There's also a followup posted to a Q&A held back in December. Check it out here.

Eonwe Valar: Starcraft 2:
Eonwe Valar: Patch 3.10 is out.
Eonwe Valar: A new event, Ulnar New Year, is now going as well.
Eonwe Valar: Season 1 for 2017 has also begun.
Ar-Pharazon-V: love the pun

Eonwe Valar: Heroes of the Storm:
Eonwe Valar: A new patch is out as well as a balance update.

Eonwe Valar: Overwatch:
Eonwe Valar: Overwatch is celebrating the Year of the Rooster.
Eonwe Valar: Also released in celebration: Overwatch Tapestry: "Winston's Journey to the West".

Eonwe Valar: That's it for gaming news.
Varda Valar: Thank you, Eonwe. :-)

Varda Valar: StarCraft/BroodWar played this last week by the duo of Fangorn and Varda.

Ar-Pharazon-V: Note: Heroes of the Storm also includes a Lunar Festival event, with rooster races and a rooster mount as reward.

Varda Valar: StarCraft 2 played this last week by the duo of Fangorn and Eowyn.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, mentioned last week :}
Eonwe Valar: *About the Heroes Lunar Festival event

Varda Valar: LotRO gamers seen in kin this past week:
Varda Valar:
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ah, well, I think it started this week, or at least the race has been made easier :-)
Elladan: Good turnout
Varda Valar: Any other gaming this past week?
Varda Valar: Pathfiner/Eberron tabletop DM'd by Sauron. Varda as one of the party.
Varda Valar: (Cleric)
Varda Valar: Any other news, business, suggestions?
Varda Valar: Requests?
Elladan: Not from me

Varda Valar: Please whisper me if you have a Tolkien topic, question, or Tolkien Moment.

Varda Valar: Topic 1
Varda Valar: Do we see Gandalf changing his technique in aiding the free people of Middle-earth, as Olorin, the Grey, and the White? Does anything stay the same?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Grabs the spotlight a bit more as white.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Also, he has a horse.
Varda Valar: Free for everyone to jump in, in case you're wondering. Easy to separate talking in chat.
Erkenbrand has entered the room.
Varda Valar: Greetings.
Eonwe Valar: Olorin didn't appear much to those he inspired, as I recall. A bit harder to whisper in someone's ear when you're in an old-guy-suit.
Eru: Between the Grey and White versions, he became more direct, probably due to both urgency of the coming war and being more powerful than before.
Arien V: Greetings
Erkenbrand: Aiya!
Varda Valar: Is that you, Erk?
Erkenbrand: yup! does it still have an email address for me?
Arien V: we only see an email adress yes
Varda Valar: Yes, until just then
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya!
Erkenbrand: hmmmm, it reads Erkenbrand for me, any suggestions on how to fix that?
Varda Valar: I see Erkenbrand now. Just the email when you first entered and on the side list. [Note: Actual names showing for two members and the one showing an email are edited in the transcript for their privacy with an easy find and replace. Phar's AIM is an old version that doesn't see quite like some of the others, but has a very clean copy that we appreciate, easily fixed. Feel free to stay!]
Eonwe Valar: Should bea way to change your displayed name.
Varda Valar: We just started the Tolkien topic:
Varda Valar: Do we see Gandalf changing his technique in aiding the free people of Middle-earth, as Olorin, the Grey, and the White? Does anything stay the same?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Still gives the email for me.
Ar-Pharazon-V: He's still on the side of the free people, that stays the same.
Varda Valar: Aye
Varda Valar: Unlike for some of the other Istari.
Varda Valar: Radagast seems to have been more interested in aiding the animals, especially birds.
Varda Valar: Saruman was out for Saruman
Eru: And still devoted to his task and seeing it through (Gandalf)
Varda Valar: Aye
Varda Valar: As Olorin, he went unseen among the elves whispering words of encouragement. They didn't generally realize he was there.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well, if they're not going to allow him to stay dead (or come back to Valinor) he might as well get it done.
Varda Valar: heh
Varda Valar: What was his technique as the Grey?
Eru: Radagast became too rooted in his Middle Earth form, there's no record of him returning to Valinor after the War of the Ring.
Varda Valar: Saruman seems to have been refused re-entry, blown away by the West wind.
Eru: Yes, he would have been expelled into the Void with other fallen Ainur.
Varda Valar: We might not have been told about Radagast, as outside the Ring story?
Ar-Pharazon-V: No record of him staying.
Varda Valar: And we don't know the fate of Alatar and Pallando, the Blue Wizards.
Ar-Pharazon-V: He may not have liked what became of the world after, the forests, the birds and beasts...
Ar-Pharazon-V: I'm sure he was affected by the passing away of the rings that way.
Eru: If they weren't mentioned returning to Valinor, they probably either did the same as Radagast (becoming lost in their guise in Middle Earth) or became like Saurman and sought to rule those around them.
Eru: The Maiar weren't affected by the existence of the rings of power.
Varda Valar: Might be interesting if the Blue Wizards tried to upgrade the lives of those around them. We don't have to assume they went bad.
Eru: Then why wouldn't they return to Valinor?
Eru: Once their mission was complete.
Varda Valar: They might have.
Varda Valar: But maybe they didn't feel it was yet complete, if they wanted to continue working with those harmed by the Ring, as in Harad?
Eru: Well yes, we just don't have any mention of it.  They all arrived at the Grey Havens but the only record is of Gandalf going back that way.
Ar-Pharazon-V: There's a lot we don't know about the fourth age, they might have gotten about a bit.
Varda Valar: Gandalf was in the Ring story and a Ring-bearer himself. The others we saw very little or not at all.
Varda Valar: Saruman may have corrupted the Blue Wizards, rather than making them think they had important work over there that kept them out of his way.
Varda Valar: They had no reason yet to disbelieve him.
Eru: Cirdan clearly saw something speical in Gandalf as he gave him Narya and not the leader of the Istari, Saruman.
Eru: *special
Varda Valar: Aye to that!
Varda Valar: Galadriel and Varda saw Gandalf as the best, also.
Eru: One of the themes in Arda is the Ainur becoming rooted in their forms.  The more acts they carry out in those forms (especially if evil), the more they are tied to them.  This happened to Melkor, Sauron, the Balrogs, etc.
Eru: So I'd think it's likely this happened to Radagast and the two blues.  They become too close to that which they are drawn by their theme.
Varda Valar: Gandalf the Grey showed up as all the Istari, as an old man, intended to be an advisor rather then a leader. The Free People needed to learn to handle their problems, to grow, by fighting Sauron on their own.
Ar-Pharazon-V: The Istari chose their rooted forms, though, to work better with the free peoples and not be tempted to do all the work themselves.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Right :-)
Erkenbrand (Erkenbrand) has left the room.
Eru: Yes.
Varda Valar: Eru, that sounds likely
Ar-Pharazon-V: Perhaps they became spiritually rooted in addition to bodily rooted, then. Too attached to their current form and life.
Eru: And yes, their forms were chosen as advisors, inspirational, not leaders.
Varda Valar: Melian somehow managed to dodge that bullet. If Thingol had remained, I wonder what would have happened to her.
Eru: He was the only thing tying her to Middle Earth.
Varda Valar: She had a daughter and a kingdom, but the daughter was gone too.
Eru: Yes, Luthien had gone by then.
Varda Valar: So, that sounds right.
Ar-Pharazon-V: It does require an anchor point, then, so to speak.
Eru: And then there's Tom and Goldberry, they seem very rooted in their form and location.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Perhaps for Radagast, that was the wild itself.
Ar-Pharazon-V: What would Tom have done if Goldberry was lost?
Eru: Sing!
Eonwe Valar: It's been a while since I thumbed through the Histories, but I got the impression that is more because they wanted to be able to act more upon the world, and having a physical form was part of that. Morgoth became more personally invested in his form. I don't recall getting the impression that for the Valar their forms were more to them than clothing is to us, as the Sil describes it.
Eru: But seriously, it's hard to say.
Varda Valar: Maybe Tom would have moved to Valinor. He would not have liked to remain in that small space constantly reminded of loss.
Eru: Yes Eonwe.
Varda Valar: Aye, the forms were clothing to the Valar and Maiar.
Eru: Merely a vehicle to interact with the world.  After they saw the Elves they clothed themselves in forms more humanoid.
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
Varda Valar: The forms followed the way they thought, so we see them as they are, in a lot of ways. :-)
Eru: Yes they were themed.
Ar-Pharazon-V: And their thoughts follow the way they're formed, eventually.
Varda Valar: True, Ulmo could appear as a great wave, or more humanoid for speech with the free people.
Eru: Yes they more they do in those forms, the harder it is to break out of them it seems.
Varda Valar: Also, Morgth put a lot of his power into the planet itself, his Ring. Also he added his power to his followers. That left less for his own use.
Eru: I wonder if Olorin stayed in Gandalf form once they arrived back in Valinor? Might have been a bit of an eye opener for Bilbo and Frodo to see him unveiled.
Eonwe Valar: We only really see that in Morgoth and Sauron, who were expending their power in the attempt to control and dominate the Peoples of Arda.
Varda Valar: Oh, that would have been an interesting unveiling!
Varda Valar: We also know that over time those following Morgoth and Morgoth himself lost the power of flight that they originally had.
Eru: Yes, Melkor invested so much in his realm that he lost power and couldn't even rise into the heavens again to stop Arien.
Varda Valar: So those that attacked Tilion in the air later could not do it.
Varda Valar: Might explain flightless Balrogs? :-)
Eru: Yes, perhaps.
Varda Valar: Gandalf the White had lost his old man form of the Grey and had to be reclothed. What was different when he was sent back?
Eonwe Valar: Based on Letters, as I recall it was that Eru had sent him back, first of all.
Eru: He looked more like Christopher Lee?
Varda Valar: heh
Eonwe Valar: Hehe
Varda Valar: And sounded more like him too. :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Could mask his voice to - yes, that.
Eru: Aye.
Varda Valar: He had taken the wizard position of the White, the leader of the Istari, able to break Saruman's staff as symbol of his loss.
Eonwe Valar: Being the last Istari standing, so to speak, he was allowed more freedom to stand against the Shadow.
Varda Valar: Aye
Eru: I wonder if part of the Istari was in their staff (a much lesser version of Sauron putting most of himself in the One Ring), they seem to be a significant item, or perhaps they were just a focus to use their power.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Or perhaps they just really liked symbolism.
Varda Valar: A focus possibly. A symbol at the very least. Perhaps a Valinor connection.
Varda Valar: Defnitely a sign of rank or Saruman's staff could have been left alone?
Varda Valar: It seemed to be a necessary act.
Eonwe Valar: Interesting, but would the Valar do that with their messengers given the connection to Sauron it could have?
Varda Valar: and all that was left of his power was mainly his Voice, and that was lessened.
Varda Valar: It might only work for that one Wizard.
Varda Valar: DNA coding. :-)
Varda Valar: Maybe a part of the form they took?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Voice recognition.
Eru: It's certainly keyed to them in some way, probably both symbolic and focus.
Varda Valar: Likely
Varda Valar: Gandalf the White was no longer just an advisor, as the Grey was. What was different?
Eru: He was more of a leader, taking proactive action instead of reactive.  I guess they felt he had to nudge the Free People's a bit more forcefully.
Varda Valar: As you said earlier, he was the last Istar to be actively serving.
Varda Valar: He had to take the place of five.
Varda Valar: Aye, so he could take direct action, such as sending light against Nazgul attacking Faramir and his party.
Eonwe Valar: He was still advising. He didn't force Theoden to march to Minas Tirith. He took action against forces beyond the strength of those involved, but he didn't do *all* of the work.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Also, he might have figured it was now or never anyway. Not much to do for him if he lets Sauron take over.
Varda Valar: Aye, Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: He freed Theoden from the influence of Saruman via Wormtongue, but he didn't kick Theoden off the throne and assume command. That would've been counter to everything he was working for.
Varda Valar: Heh. Interesting. But they did say if the Free People fell against Sauron, he would have Arda for an immensely long time. Apparently they could let it happen if the people didn't wake up and do their part.
Eru: Yes that wouldn't have been in keeping with his mission at all.
Varda Valar: One thing to remember about the Istari is that all of them had had part of their memory and power removed.
Varda Valar: If they had kept all of their memories, I wonder if they, especially Saruman, would have acted differently?
Eonwe Valar: He rallied forces to come in and aid Helm's Deep when it might've otherwise been lost. he tried to rally and prepare Denethor as well. Gandalf rode out to chase away the Nazgul and bring Faramir back to the Halls of healing, he stood against the Lord of the Nazgul to bar the entrance to Minas Tirith,..
Eru: Yes they were limited so to be less overpowering.  The memory part could have been to stop them yearning for Valinor as much, and focus on their task.
Varda Valar: Ahh, helping focus without homesickness.
Varda Valar: Good summary, Eonwe
Eru: Ah! Alas I have to go, namarie all, see you next time!
Varda Valar: Namarie!
Eru (eru68) has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Take care Eru :}
Varda Valar: We've also pretty well wrapped up the subject. :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Namarie Eru!
Varda Valar: Any other comments? And feel free to add more during the next section if they come to mind. :-)

Varda Valar: *catches a hammer flying by above the conveyor/shelf*
Varda Valar: *it hums as it comes down on the hammerpad*
Varda Valar: *the hammerpad hums in harmony*
Varda Valar: *music breaks out from all the utensils around us*
Varda Valar: *returns the hammerpad and we have a pleasantly happy silence*

Varda Valar: After-meetoing!
Varda Valar: Free chat. :-)
Eonwe Valar: Of course we *all* know Gandalf should've just claimed the Ring. Then he could've fixed everything! I forsee absolutely no problems with giving any finite being that much power.
Varda Valar: I did see Erkenbrand as the first name, then the email as the parentheses name after it on the side. Erkenbrand when he talked.
Varda Valar: heh
Varda Valar: Gandalf figured it would be a bad idea. :-)
Eonwe Valar: Eh, what does he know :}
Varda Valar: Just think, Gandalf could have come back with all his power and mopped Mordor witth the weakened, Ringless Sauron.
Varda Valar: Aragorn and Frodo could have just sat at home.
Eonwe Valar: :}
Varda Valar: You can bet that thought crossed minds.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Frodo's, probably ;-)
Varda Valar: Frodo was pretty bright.
Eonwe Valar: Exactly, then the White Army that came up to the Shire to order it "for its own good" would arrive to help those silly Hobbits learn how to help out in the wider world!
Varda Valar: Chefs and farmers everywhere!
Varda Valar: Be lucky if they got paid.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Paid? Why? It's for the good of all, that should be reward enough!
Varda Valar: There you go!
Eonwe Valar: Nobody gets paid! Everyone gets just what they need to survive. Of course some need more to survive than others...
Varda Valar: Cooking and farming would have turned mediocre soon after. Then who needs hobbits?
Varda Valar: The elite need lots to be able to watch over everyone, of course.
Varda Valar: Sure glad Gandalf didn't take that Ring that Frodo offered him.
Varda Valar: Frodo's offering the Ring to Gandalf and Galadriel tested both of them, probably part of the behind the scenes purpose.
Varda Valar: f
Varda Valar: Forced Gandalf to think about it early on, before he had time to want it even more.
Eonwe Valar: Probably. They both realized it. Frodo probably was just trying to get out of the tough work :}
Varda Valar: Might have saved him from going the way of the other Istari.
Varda Valar: Frodo could probably see it would be the death of him, and others could surely handle the job better. He had some humility.
Eonwe Valar: Galadriel had already considered it, weighed the decision apparently, but never had opportunity until Frodo showed up on her doorstep.
Varda Valar: But he was the best Hobbit for the job.
Varda Valar: Aye, thinking about it and the actual temptation are orders of magnitude different.
Eonwe Valar: Gandalf had to be pretty open-eyed about it because what he was doing was likely to lead him right into its path.
Varda Valar: Hey, the Shire couldn't possibly be more than a vacation spot. :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well, it was certainly the best source of pipeweed.
Varda Valar: There you go. And they appreciated his fireworks. Didn't keep askiing him to do huge Maia things. The elves knew him for a Maia.
Eonwe Valar: We *all* know the Shire didn't really come into existence until Gandalf sent some Hobbits that way to pretty the place up. He probably lived in a cave in what would become Bag End, and really just wanted some housekeeping :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ooh, there's a thought.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Gandalf manipulating the entire history of the Shire that way.
Varda Valar: heh, now we know.
Eonwe Valar: He had the Entwives train them first, of course....
Varda Valar: Not too far off. The Entwives taught gardening to humans coming out of the East, escaping Morgoth.
Varda Valar: The Hobbits probably came right through there.
Eonwe Valar: It's been a while, but I think there's some lore connection between Hobbits and Entwives I should remember.
Varda Valar: Might even be why the Entwives may have moved onwards to the Shire area.
Ar-Pharazon-V: People being taught agriculture by trees. Interesting.
Eonwe Valar: I'd make a joke about plants knowing how plants should be treated, but apparently even among plants (Ents vs Entwives) there was disagreement.
Varda Valar: Definitely had walking trees by the Shire. Didnt' have to be just huorns. And the Entwives would not have been in Old Man Willow's deep forest.
Varda Valar: Let them grow free! Let them be domesticated!
Eonwe Valar: Wonder if Sauron promised the Entwives a Ring of Power... "Now you'll be able to make all plants grow how you want them to!"
Varda Valar: So the Hobbits with their gardens would have been very attractive to the Entwives.
Varda Valar: Have to wonder about that tree shading the cattle.
Varda Valar: Although I'm not sure what Entwives would have thought of livestock. At least if they kept out of the gardens.
Eonwe Valar: Irony?
Varda Valar: Still, they were domesticated, not wild, and perhaps more pleasing to their minds?
Varda Valar: Wild deer would have been more pleasing to the Ents.
Varda Valar: With such different mindsets, no wonder the Ents had difficulty locating the Entwives. Who would ever go there, they both think.
Ar-Pharazon-V: You'd think that after all those generations they'd at least try to figure out how each other's minds worked.
Varda Valar: Mars and Venus?  :-)
Varda Valar: Reunited at long last in the West. That could mean the Shire, not just Valinor. I like to think that, anyway.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Heh, could be.
Varda Valar: Merry and Pippin finallllly tell Fangorn about the trees that move around the Shire.
Varda Valar: Always bothered me that they left out that teeny bit of info.
Varda Valar: Silly hobbitses.
Eonwe Valar (Eonwe Valar) has left the room.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well, it was just one rumor in the Shire as I recall. They might not even have heard it.. but then again they should've said something about the Old Forest.

Eonwe Valar (Eonwe Valar) has entered the room.
Varda Valar: Um, save quick.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Hm?
Eonwe Valar: Got a save in, hehe.
Varda Valar: Eonwe did a crash. Back now.
Varda Valar: yay
Ar-Pharazon-V: ah :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiyata
Varda Valar: That was a quick Return of the Eonwe. :-)
Varda Valar: Guys, I need to go handle supper, but will happily scroll to see what was said. (Got in a save, too.)
Elladan: I'm back too
Elladan: heating up dinner too
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: I actually need to call it here :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well, good time for me to start my gaming report then.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Namarie Eonwe!
Varda Valar: Namarie Eonwe!
Eonwe Valar: So, take care, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}
Elladan: namarie!
Eonwe Valar (Eonwe Valar) has left the room.
Elladan (Scott92027) has left the room.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Flashgaming!
Ar-Pharazon-V: is the first game, a running game. No plot that I can figure out, but you play a devilish looking creature in some sort of hell environment, jumping and throwing your weapon to get as far as possible.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I actually get quite far before figuring out I had a weapon, and was just trying to avoid all the enemies ;-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: is the second, an action platformer, rather silly and macho, about a mercenary who gets betrayed by his boss and needs to shoot his way through enemy forces while rescuing his buddies. Couple of weapon upgrades and cosmetic upgrades to be gotten.
Ar-Pharazon-V: is the third game, guide a character through random platforms, collecting coins and placing blocks, trampolines or rocks to get past obstacles. Complete minor objectives as you go.

Ar-Pharazon-V: Blizzard gaming!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Diablo 3: Level 66 now, and finished all the anniversary stuff. Got all the pages relatively easily by farming the Festering Woods in Act I, and after that the biggest problem was getting 1 million gold to make a Wirt's Leg, which you need to salvage on the path to getting another pet.
Ar-Pharazon-V: But while doing some bounties I ran into a Gilded Baron treasure goblin, so that problem didn't last too long!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Heroes of the Storm: Tried out Lili a bit, seems alright, using a serpent-based dpsy build. I also bought the Raider Rexxar skin, which was on sale this week, which I had been waiting for since it was introduced :-) Comes with a mechanized Misha!
Ar-Pharazon-V: This week's brawl is Starcraft-based, on the map with the Zerg swarms, and only the Starcraft heroes, or heroes with a Starcraft skin, are available as your 3 choices. Luckily I could choose Zagara several times, and ended up winning 2 out of the 3 brawls.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Hearthstone: Some tough quests this week, but hey, that's just more gold. Some classes halfway to the next level now.
Ar-Pharazon-V: This week's brawl had you pick a class, getting a fitting adventure boss in its place, and fighting an opponent with another boss. A bit of luck required, but they do count as a win for the class you chose, which was useful for quests.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Oh, for Heroes of the Storm, also, worked on a few rooster races. They were kinda tough if not nearly impossible, but changes made in a later patch make them much easier to complete, and getting 25 before the end of the Lunar Festival shouldn't be too hard.
Ar-Pharazon-V: WoW:
Ar-Pharazon-V: A bit calmer this week. No new appearances unlocked, though I did get my first Prestige level, and you need 2 Prestige levels to get a new appearance.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Prestige is given when you reach Honor level 50, which I got by a few more pvp arenas for world quests, and the weekly quest, which was winning 4 battlegrounds.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Those world quests are going well, I've completed Darkbrul Arena already and only need 4 to 6 of the other three.
Ar-Pharazon-V: *checks* 4 or 5, actually
Ar-Pharazon-V: With Prestige level 1 I also got a new pet, an Alliance Enthusiast, which is basically a little banner-carrying demon that makes some strange emotes like moving closer to you or taking a strand of your hair. A bit creepy, really. But fun.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I also got another pet from Northrend raids, a Blood Boil from Saurfang. A bit like the red oozes from Throne of Thunder, and not very special. But still nice to have.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Other world quests I've been doing are the pet master ones for the Family Familiar achievement, for which I'm also still leveling pets. I still need to level almost 40 of them, so that might take a while. If I need some pets early I'll throw some pet charms at vendors for buying levelling stones, but that can get a bit expensive, so I've also taken to doing any quests that give charms.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Doing world quests is going well for my reputation, I've already gotten 4 out of 6 to revered, and the other 2 are not far behind. Onward to exalted!
Ar-Pharazon-V: What else... old appearances! Gotten some new items from Blackwing Lair this week, which just leaves one item, a cloak from Chromaggus. Just doesn't want to drop, it seems.
Ar-Pharazon-V: For 5-mans I'm still in Heroic Blood Furnace. Only need a dagger from the first boss, so at least the runs are fast :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: And finally, raiding:
Ar-Pharazon-V: Nighthold normal is progressing, we've gotten 8 out of 10 bosses down and have tried a few attempts at Elisande, leader of the Nightborne. Seems an interesting fight, with temporal resets.
Ar-Pharazon-V: While raiding, and world-questing, I completed the collection of 50 essences of aman'thul, and was able to upgrade my (at that point) only legendary item from 910 to 940 with the reward.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Later tonight I also got my second legendary, the Ekowraith, a legendary chestpiece which grabbed my attention from when they were first announced. Even though it's been nerfed a bit since then, it's still a massive upgrade.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I also have my 2-piece bonus for the new tier-set, so that's more upgrades! Feeling quite strong now for raids.
Ar-Pharazon-V: And that's my report for the week!
Arien V: well done :-)
Arien V: congrats to all
Varda Valar: Grats

Arien V: Namarie all :-)
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Ar-Pharazon-V: namarie!
Varda Valar: Namarie, Arien
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Ar-Pharazon-V: Namarie!
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