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December 24, 2017 Sunday Meeting

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Attending: (4)
    Discord: Arien, Ar-Pharazon, Gorlim, Varda (presiding)

Meeting begins
    Merry Christmas eve!
    General gaming report
    Topic: what were some happy moments in Tolkien's works?
    Flashgaming Reviews by Ar-Pharazon

(times are in Central from Varda)

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:22 PM
A bit  late, holiday and raidbreak got me confused... ehr... it is sunday today, right?
Varda - Yesterday at 4:25 PM
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Varda - Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Aye, it's Sunday :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Had me worried there... thought it was just me and an absent Arien and I'd missed an email or something.
Varda - Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Pardon, family arrived from a pretty fair distance, talking and eating.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Ah :smiley:
Varda - Yesterday at 4:26 PM
Eonwe will not be able to come tonight, lucky I made it, heh.
Did you see the picture Gorlim posted in Harbor?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Looks nice, though the symbolism of the.. ehr.. symbols, eludes me.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Varda - Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Aiya Gorlim :smiley:
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:28 PM
i have discord set so it reads the messages for me in automated voice
so i dont have to read it
Varda - Yesterday at 4:28 PM
Ring, Eye, runes that may be the Ash nazg etc [Believe it says something along the lines of Merry Christmas.]
Hope my voice sounds ok. :wink:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:29 PM
So if we use difficult words and spelling and skip vowels or something, you get a headache?
Varda - Yesterday at 4:29 PM
Maybe we should throw in lots of vowels.
Talking Black Speech may have caused problems there.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:30 PM
it does a suprisingly good job doing translations.. it gets happyface for :smiley: for example
it lets me play while i lsten to the chat
Varda - Yesterday at 4:31 PM
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:31 PM
ash nazg durbatuluk...
Varda - Yesterday at 4:31 PM
I see a pop up message box bottom right
ack, the sky suddenly turned dark
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:31 PM
Same, and a sound.
Varda - Yesterday at 4:31 PM
I read fast so it works fine generally
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:32 PM
I'm just farming some panthara on Argus for a skinning queststarter, so nothing that requires sudden attention.
Varda - Yesterday at 4:33 PM
That works.
We have in Discord Ar-Pharazon, Gorlim, and Varda. Huzzah!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and Blessed Hanukkah (sp).
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:34 PM
I poked  Arien, but if she's not getting discord notifications either, I'm not sure a WoW whisper would help.
Varda - Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Thanks for trying.

Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:34 PM
Happy winter solstice?
Varda - Yesterday at 4:34 PM
And that. :smiley:
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:35 PM
dont forget kwanza
ArienV - Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Aiya all :smiley:
Varda - Yesterday at 4:35 PM
That's a made-up holiday, but ok, something to add to the list.
ArienV - Yesterday at 4:35 PM
happy christmas to all
Varda - Yesterday at 4:35 PM
Aiya Sunshine :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:35 PM
ArienV - Yesterday at 4:36 PM
:smiley:  aiya .. and no never seen your message
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:36 PM
There was a webcomic page that summed em all up, but that was years ago, might take a look if I can see it...
Varda - Yesterday at 4:36 PM
Interesting. Didn't see mine either?
Nice thing about a lot of online comics is we might be able to refer to them a long time later.


I've been slacking, haven't added to the Tolkien Site, apologies.
Nothing sent in either. People are busy this time of year.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:37 PM
Here it is... 1999, so long ago?
Clan of the Cats
Cotc Xmas1999
Visit the post for more.
Varda - Yesterday at 4:38 PM
Have a nice day.   :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:39 PM
If nothing else, still nice!
Varda - Yesterday at 4:41 PM
Ok, started looking through the comics. Stopping now.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:42 PM
shlock mercenary is the best..
Varda - Yesterday at 4:42 PM
So, one might ask, why do we put in what we can read on the Games Site?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:43 PM
To find other people who play it more easily, or be found by them?
Varda - Yesterday at 4:43 PM
I love Schlock. Sorry they stopped the calendars but they didn't make enough money.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:43 PM
Sunday 24 December 2017
Daily strip for Sunday 24 December 2017

Varda - Yesterday at 4:43 PM
We put the Games Site stuff for that week up because a link scrolls down and can't be found when perusing old transcripts.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:44 PM
The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:45 PM
Oh, like that.
Varda - Yesterday at 4:45 PM
Have to read that many?
Must be literate mercenaries. Or no, it's what they do and what we read.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:45 PM
37. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload.' (23 February 2004)[47]
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:45 PM
Is that a problem with my flashgames?
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:46 PM
the only thing better than that list is the rules of evil overlord
Varda - Yesterday at 4:46 PM
The link to the flashgames should be no problem.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:46 PM
Varda - Yesterday at 4:46 PM
The things the evil overlord should do instead of being Bond villains.
Fangorn says hi!
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:47 PM
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 4:47 PM
I don't read Schlock myself but I'm pretty sure it's buried somewhere in the great mountains of my "comics to read in the future" bookmark folder.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 4:48 PM
i raised my daughter on evil overlord list since she was about 5.. i think i raised an evil overlord as she uses that in her business life
Varda - Yesterday at 4:48 PM
Eek. She should be good.
Should be included in all business courses.
Fun read. :smiley:

World of WarCraft:
Weekly event: World Quests.
Varda - Yesterday at 5:00 PM
LFR Wing 2: Forbidden Descent is now open.
See the hotfixes.

StarCraft 2:
A new balance update came out this week.

Heroes of the Storm:
A new balance patch came out for Heroes of the Storm as well.


Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Also, for WoW, I think tree gifts are coming up in the next few days, so be alert!
Varda - Yesterday at 5:01 PM
Thanks Phar

Overwatch:  A new digital comis is out: "Yeti Hunt".

Yule Festival is going. Get your Winter Elk mount and Snow Owl pet.
And the usual reason for festivals: Starlit crystals and Scrolls.
Any other general gaming news?

Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:05 PM
hmm... next Heroes of the Storom hero announced?
Varda - Yesterday at 5:05 PM
That would be one, aye.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:05 PM
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm: Need a Light?
For the fans of the original Starcraft :smile:

Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:08 PM
anyone doing any mobile games? my son is doing the Transformers and Star Wars mobile ones and im keeping him company
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:09 PM
Lacking a smartphone myself. I do play word snack on my dance partner's phone!
Varda - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Hi to Norvat :smiley:
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
hes at work right now.. YAY!!!
Varda - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
Yay for having work.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:14 PM
yep yep yep
Varda - Yesterday at 5:14 PM
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:14 PM
he got his first paycheck friday.. woot!
Varda - Yesterday at 5:14 PM
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:14 PM
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
btw when you get in lotro i need a refresher on embuing a weapon.. i cant remember if you need to use star-lits before or after the embue
Varda - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
You can do before and after.
Helps get the "main" stat on up before imbuing, and adds to the whole thing as well after.
LotRO release notes for update 21.3.2:
Imbuing Legendary Items | Valar Guild
Please feel free to add new information as it comes available. What we know right now comes from the test server, Bullroarer, and can be expected to change. Link suggested by Gorlim on getting
More links were added by Indis.
Found this one:
Before is for a small benefit, but I like the small benefit, reason I suggested it.
Scrolls are apparently better afterwards.
And things change.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
really? i remember that you alway bring  the legs up to 6 with scrolls
before embueing
Varda - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
I agree Gorlim.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
i just couldnt remember if i needed the 4 or 5 starlits before
Varda - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
I always max mine with scrolls, then later add more.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
as i remember the benefit effects 2 handers
yep. i am making a 1 hand sword for my cappy so i can go yellow line and tank with a shield
Varda - Yesterday at 5:26 PM
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:27 PM
that will give us an offtank if you bring your guard up or an off healer if dis is on her healer
Varda - Yesterday at 5:27 PM
Very good.
That guard is moving up, slowly, but moving up.
Taking Tolkien topics now.
Be sure to unlock the 7th legacy
Crystal of Remembrance
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:29 PM
i did but it turns out that you dont get to pick it from a list
Varda - Yesterday at 5:29 PM
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:29 PM
or do you do that after the embue?
theres no cappy weapons on the ah either
Varda - Yesterday at 5:29 PM
Also, pick what you want for legs beforehand, since it can be impossible to change some afterwards, I found out the hard way.
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:30 PM
yeah me too
Varda - Yesterday at 5:30 PM
Remembrance before.
You need my weaponsmith?
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:30 PM
cappy weapons are almost all dps legs
im looking for one that does rallying cry bonus
Varda - Yesterday at 5:31 PM
Add it in before imbuing
I could send you cappy weapons I run across
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:31 PM
yeah thats what i remembered.. i decomposed or sold all the ones i had in the bank. didnt think about this first
Varda - Yesterday at 5:32 PM
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:32 PM
did we stick any weapons in the kin chest?
Varda - Yesterday at 5:32 PM
Not many, as they take up too much room fast. Believe a second age or two.
Don't remember a captain's weapon in there though. Have to re-check.

A short topic: what were some happy moments in Tolkien's works?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:34 PM
Reunions of characters who were previously split up tended to be happy moments.
Varda - Yesterday at 5:34 PM
Also, hobbits taking baths seemed to be happy moments, splashing water and singing.
Pubs, where they socialized and sang.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:35 PM
Hobbits doing pretty much anything seems to be happy moments, whether it's bathing, eating, drinking, or throwing parties :smiley:
Varda - Yesterday at 5:35 PM
Go hobbits!
Guess I'll think of more after the meeting is over.
Some of those were general enough to cover a lot of ground.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:39 PM
Dwarves tended to have happy moments too.
Singing songs, and.. drinking.. again?
Elves sang songs and told stories.
Varda - Yesterday at 5:39 PM
The Hall of Fire, aye.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:40 PM
Overall, people liked singing!
Varda - Yesterday at 5:40 PM
Seeing Luthien or Arwen dancing in the woods.
Blowing smoke rings and other fantastic shapes such as a sailing ship.
Bilbo was thrilled by hearing the dwarves sing and play musical instruments
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
bah.. elevenses is definitely a good thing
Varda - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
There you go!
Gorlim - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
fireworks made for a good time too
Varda - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
That's another one, good.
Eating honey cakes and other goodies at Beorn's house.
The dwarves coming home.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:43 PM
...I don't know about that one, there was a lot of danger and a few counts of death involved.
Varda - Yesterday at 5:45 PM
If we think of more, we can add them to the After-meeting. :smiley:
*a golden gavel dances off the shelf*
*sparks fly like fireworks*
*the golden gavel dances back to the shelf*

Free chat. :smiley:
Hi from Meriadoc, who's visiting our house.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:47 PM
Coronation was nice, couple of weddings..
Varda - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
Seeing the rangers again, including Halbarad, unexpectedly for Aragorn.
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 5:49 PM
Well, let's find a few flashgames.
Right, personal gaming report time!

Flashgames: is the first game, a platformer, reminded me a bit of lemmings. Get the caveman across the platforms into his cave by putting objects in his way to save him from traps and having him perform actions, and hopefully collect the stars too.
Caveman Adventure -

Gorlim - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
i lose the channel?
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
no, sorry, distracted by rl stuff
Gorlim - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
no problem as i think theres only 4 of here
me, santa, and 2 reindeer
Varda has a red nose :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 6:04 PM
ArienV - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
you are here gorlim and i lurk in the background :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 6:19 PM is the second game! Ran across this on friday but never played the first, not that it seems necessary.  Manage a cinema in a simple way, selling tickets, popcorn, drinks, and upgrade your stuff for the coins you get. Problem is that it has an energy system, but feel free to come back in sessions if you like it. Current link is a demo, but if you want more, there's a link to some spanish site for the full version. Take note, though, that site appears to be rather performance-heavy for your pc.
Cinema Panic 2
Enjoy attending the trendiest Cinema in the City!

And for the third game, something that's kept me sorta busy for the past week :smiley: is a puzzle game, like a nonogram but with so much more you'll unlock. Numbers that give adjacent squares to color, that indicate the longest sequences, isolated squares... a lot of logic needed to get through it, and you get more types of clues as you go :smiley:
A bizzare mix of minesweeper and nonograms

Blizzard gaming!
Heroes of the Storm: Level 239 now, I think at least one of those levels was my new Sergeant Hammer hero. Fun brawl this week, winter-themed with snowballs to throw and snowmen to build up to follow you around. Fast gameplay with Curse-tributes spamming all over the place to debuff the enemy base.
ArienV - Yesterday at 6:40 PM
Good night to you all and Merry Christmas again ::)
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 6:40 PM
Namarie, happy holidays!
ArienV - Yesterday at 6:40 PM
Namarie :smiley:
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 6:41 PM
Hearthstone: More gaining xp for all the classes, most are close to 52 now. Another Winter Veil brawl, each side receives 4 gifts on the board from time to time, kill the gifts on the opposite side to get a random legendary for 3 cheaper mana cost.
I had some good games and quests done with a druid deck focusing on buffing the own gifts, felt appropriate :smiley:
Diablo 3: Only got 2 bounty acts done so far, because it's been a rather busy week with holiday stuff. Maybe more next week? Still, it's progress.
Starcraft 2: Part 1 of the new War Chest complete, gotta wait 2 weeks for the next part. Promptly forgot that I'd completed it and played another match the following day, only realizing halfway during the match that I wouldn't be getting chest xp. Oh well!
Did not get a pet from the old raids this time, nor the last pet from Wailing Caverns, but I did get a bunch of new ones. Including one from skinning on Argus, a bile larva; a toad pet from the rare Anax called Benax, and both pets from the fel-spotted eggs, so good progress there, 2 mounts left from those eggs :smiley:
Raidbreak this week, so no raiding, but time for other stuff. Started farming the skinning rank 3 queststarter on Argus, now over 1200 leather in and now luck yet.
I got a new mount from those eggs too, a new mana ray.
Completed the Higher Dimensional Learning achievement in Azsuna, getting a new chapter each day as planned :smiley: Reward was another book like the one that started it, this time sending you to a random leyline location in the Broken Isles. Kinda useless, but fun.
Too bad it's not a toy, though, but takes up inventory space.
Continuing with reputation too, got revered with both Army of the Light, and Argussian Reach, the latter allowing me to buy a Krokul whistle, upgrading my flightmaster whistle to also work on Argus. Very useful when travelling around for quests!
Also been working on the class hall quests there, now on the quest that requires me to upgrade 6 champions to 925. Halfway now, will take a while more since the missions for the armor sets don't come up that often. Still, should get it next week!
More world quests too, especially for the weekly. Also for talon's vengeance rep which is still continuing. 141 marks to go, I hope to finish in early/mid january.
Still watching Xurios for the toy I want with curious coins, but he hasn't had it for sale yet. Soon, hopefully!
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 7:00 PM
And got another toy as well, from the nethershard keys and chests in the secret cave on the Broken Shore. I now have all the unique stuff I want from nethershards, no need to worry about having to farm them later :smiley:
Fun thing, a sort of Suramar-style roomba which follows you around slowly, and if you have a cat pet out (tested it with a Marsuul today, worked as well) it'll climb on top of it and ride around :smiley:
And I think that's- no, one more Heroes of the Storm thing to mention, working on the Winter Veil quests, now on the last one to get the reindeer mount. Only takes 5 wins, shouldn't take long.
And that's my report!
Ar-Pharazon-V - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
Namarie! I'm sure you've got the transcript, Varda :smiley:
If not, I just copied it over to my own archive.