Valar Guild

February 15, 2015 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (2)
    AriehnV(presiding), ArPharazonV

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership:
    Ar-Pharazon
    Arien
    Varda
    Menelvagor
Web:
Gaming:
Tolkien:
    Trivia game:
       1. Frodo and Bilbo had several things in common. Can you name them?
       2. Among the free peoples, I can think of 2 races where we expressly don't see females from. Which are they, and why is that for each of the races?
After-meeting:
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Before-meeting
You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: Aiya Phari :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya :-)
AriehnV: it looks like you and me
ArPharazonV: Got the email?
AriehnV: yeah
AriehnV: and was reading or flying over that page with that article
ArPharazonV: Same. But we'll save it for Tolkien, hopefully when Indis is here :-)
AriehnV: oky then lets get started with the official business :-)
ArPharazonV: Don't forget the greeting :-)
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AriehnV: Elen sila lumenn omentielvo ! - A star shines on the hour of our meeting :-)
AriehnV: Membership news: We are here :-)
AriehnV: Apart from this do you have any?
ArPharazonV: Other than my upcoming convention trip on Saturday, nothing new! With any luck I should survive the masses of people and be alive for meeting the next day :-)
AriehnV: where are you going?
ArPharazonV: Hearth's Warming Eve con, an MLP convention nearby.
ArPharazonV: Never been to a convention before, and I'm not exactly an out-door social type of person, so it'll be interesting.
ArPharazonV: That's all from me.
AriehnV: cool
AriehnV: so what is this exactly?
AriehnV: what is Hearth
AriehnV: oh from My Little Pony?#
ArPharazonV: Yes. It's a holiday in that show, and the convention's named after it. Should be merchandise, panels, workshops...
ArPharazonV: and a lot of other fans!
AriehnV: Sounds fun :-). I look forward to hearing your report from it :-)
ArPharazonV: Great!
AriehnV: Well I have been back from holiday last week and i tell you , it doesnt feel that great ^^
AriehnV: but no other membership news on my side
ArPharazonV: Being back from holiday, or the holiday itself?
AriehnV: being back from holiday
ArPharazonV: Aw.
ArPharazonV: Just have to hold out until the next one.
AriehnV: The holiday itself was fun enough witfh lots of gaming .. indeed :-)
AriehnV: And it will be at the end April where i am going to see my parents for a week with Bruce :-)
AriehnV: and maybe going to see Blind Guardian :-)
AriehnV: but there is no other membership news from me today
AriehnV: Varda is away to see her family today
AriehnV: thats why you' re stuck with me :-)
ArPharazonV: Hehe.
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AriehnV: There was no web news so thats quickly dealt with ;-)
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AriehnV: Gaming news:
AriehnV: Warcraft:  See the latest hotfixes and PTR patch notesTweeting while playing is coming to WoW. See the new blog Engineer's Workshop: Anti-Aliasing and Lighting.
Starcraft 2: See how multiplayer in the next expansion is coming along with the Legacy of the Void: Multiplayer Development Update.
ArPharazonV: Let me guess. Direct copy from Eonwe's gaming site? :-)
ArPharazonV: Gotta say, it was difficult for me to see a difference with that lighting stuff.
AriehnV: Diablo 3: Season 2 has begun.
Heroes of the Storm: Check out the closed beta patch notes, the State of Ranked Play, and a blog: Developer Insights: The Lost Vikings.
AriehnV: thats silly
ArPharazonV: Oh?
AriehnV: that it changes the font from the copying and no formatting
ArPharazonV: To me, even your regular font has changed now.
ArPharazonV: If that's not fixed, the transcript might be awkward ;-)  [Note: /bow]
AriehnV: yeah its not nice
AriehnV: didnt know it would come out like this
ArPharazonV: Ah, now it's normal again.
AriehnV: yeah but season 2 in Diablo 3 has begun, so time for new seasonal heroes :-)
AriehnV: just started a couble of days ago
AriehnV: have you had a look in Starcraft lately Phari?
ArPharazonV: Ah, great :-) Not gotten around to the news eason.
ArPharazonV: Also... not at Starcraft, except for the blogsite and the story forum. Why?
ArPharazonV: Didn't note any events in the blog.
AriehnV: thats all right :-) just asking
AriehnV: other gaming news?
AriehnV: lets get it out of the way before Indis turns up , if she does :-)
ArPharazonV: Well, fair enough.
AriehnV: Any other games than WoW or LotrO?
ArPharazonV: Hearthstone: No news, still at level 32, though still doing my dailies. Did upgrade all my decks from the January changes.
ArPharazonV: WoW: Some more Foundry raids, some more bosses killed. Heroic Gruul was a pain.
ArPharazonV: Stable quests progressing nicely, only 2 or 3 more days for the entire set.
ArPharazonV: (just getting personal stuff out of the way here)
AriehnV: very good :-)
ArPharazonV: Almost done questing in Nagrand, next up will be Ring of Trials.
ArPharazonV: Got another pet from those quests, a little Elekk!
AriehnV: aaah cute ::D
AriehnV: I defeated one of the Pet Menagerie quests , i need to level the other pets or get a real team together :-\
ArPharazonV: Flashgaming: I'll give you two games. One is a game where you have go guide a flock of geese through a bunch of air traffic and survive as long as possible, while buying upgrades and completing up to 29 achievements. Pretty fun, but not very long, unless you're really struggling :-)
ArPharazonV: http://www.kongregate.com/games/HotAirRaccoon/endless-migration
ArPharazonV: Can be a bit cruel though!
ArPharazonV: Other game: Witch Hunt, defense game where you play a Witch/sorceress, and have to fight off waves of goblins. Doesn't sound very original, but there's some original features involved. Some fanservice, but can be disabled with a single setting.
ArPharazonV: http://www.kongregate.com/games/kreig13/witch-hunt
ArPharazonV: Hmm. I haven't done any Pet Battling in WoW yet in this expansion. Nor any archaeology. Some features I just like to leave for when I got other stuff all completed.
ArPharazonV: So can't comment on the menagerie :-)
ArPharazonV: And that's the news from me!
ArPharazonV: Oh yeah, Love is in the Air event ending next week. Get your stuff quickly if you're still missing pets or achievements!
AriehnV: yeah i got one suit which we use for pyjamas in rp ^^
ArPharazonV: Heh.
AriehnV: ok i ve got a little report from yesterday , even valar guild related :-)
AriehnV: I asked Menelvagor to help out a guildmate with his Frostmourne quest so we did a few bosses and the required things together in a tfhreesome which i think both Menel and the guildmate enjoyed
ArPharazonV: Great! Good to see Menel active.
AriehnV: We did from the Bloodqueen onwards together :-)
ArPharazonV: Yeah, that vampire stuff needs some people to do.
AriehnV: He also said he wants to stay in contact and associated with the valar guild for the coming year. I reminded him also of his roleplay character;-)
ArPharazonV: Haha. What did he have to say about that?
AriehnV: Not much ^^
AriehnV: I didn't have that much time since i needed to go to bed
AriehnV: but it was good to see him again and do things together :-)
AriehnV: Privately i was able to join the guild raid on wednesday and in a very smooth run we cleared 5 bosses within a very short time so we could do Kargath on Heroic and tried Tectus
AriehnV: and i got two items loot :-D
ArPharazonV: Grats!
AriehnV: Else just did a little bit on lotro today ealier on but nothing special else . Thats ift on my front
ArPharazonV: Oh, on loot, I got my first new tier-piece from the Foundry today. Set bonuses look a bit meh for guardian druid, but still nice.
AriehnV: very good
ArPharazonV: You wouldn't know if Indis is coming in? Not sure if you have a way to contact her through LotRO.
AriehnV: i am just looking
AriehnV: she is not in LotrO
AriehnV: noone online there today in fact
ArPharazonV: Hmm. Too bad.
AriehnV: at the moment at least
AriehnV: /
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AriehnV: shall we move into Tolkien then?
ArPharazonV: Sure, but that's also Indis' topic.. not sure how I feel about doing that without her. But we can give it a go :-)
AriehnV: yeah true enough
AriehnV: shall we go with a couple of rounds Trivia instead?
AriehnV: see how far we get and maybe we get into a discussion over something we say :_
ArPharazonV: Oh, can try, though I don't have my books here with me, but I might get them if I can't think of anything ;-)
AriehnV: all right :-)
AriehnV: To start with .. bit of an old hat , but its a good warm up :-)
AriehnV: Frodo and Bilbo had several things in common. Can you name them?
ArPharazonV: They were both hobbitses!
ArPharazonV: They had the same last name, the same birthday, they were related in 2 directions so had largely the same ancestry, they both lived in the same home.
ArPharazonV: They were both Ringbearers.
ArPharazonV: Their first names are of equal length, equal syllable-count and -length, and end in the same letter :-)
ArPharazonV: Want more?
ArPharazonV: They both stayed in Rivendell for a while, they both left on a ship to Valinor.
AriehnV: Very good
ArPharazonV: They both seemed to be in a pretty bad state at some point around the place where the trolls were :-)
AriehnV: they also both were batchelors and liked going adventuring :-)
ArPharazonV: Not sure if they liked it, until they had tried it ;-)
ArPharazonV: Both friends with Gandalf.
AriehnV: well gathered news from "strange folk" , Frodo went to see the Elves
AriehnV: looked at maps and asked themselves "What is beyond the white area? " aka unknown territory
ArPharazonV: Terra Incognita.
AriehnV: indeed for those who are able to speak somewhat latin :-)
AriehnV: so yes and both were named "elf friends" as far as i know
AriehnV: Frodo was by Gildor after they met on the road
ArPharazonV: that must've helped with getting a ticket for that boat
AriehnV: Bilbo at least gained their friendship while staying in Rivendell , if not before . I think he won Thrandruils respect after his stunt with the Arkenstone and his loyalty to the dwarves. I think so probably
AriehnV: but i guess also had to do with the fact that their fate both was tied to the ring
AriehnV: And both suffered for a long and permanent effect even after it was gone
ArPharazonV: Elves don't want to be on the bad side of a Ringbearer.
AriehnV: I think that about covers it :-)
AriehnV: oh well forgot another thing in common was friendship to "common folk" like the Gamgees
AriehnV: Bilbo got along with the Gaffer and Frodo with his son
ArPharazonV: Not bad for some well-to-do Hobbits.
AriehnV: Your turn :-)
ArPharazonV: But the social lines were a bit smeared anyway. Merry and Pippin, while heirs of great houses, considered themselves social equals, and even a bit delinquent :-)

ArPharazonV: Allright. Among the free peoples, I can think of 2 races where we expressly don't see females from. Which are they, and why is that for each of the races?
ArPharazonV: If you need a hint, both races are linked together in their origin story :-)
AriehnV: err .. we dont see female dwarves ( we get them mentioned but we dont see them) , the same with the ents
ArPharazonV: Well done! And why is that?
AriehnV: we get the female ents mentioned but they are gone vanished mysteriously at some point during the first or second age
AriehnV: my guess is the second age because Fangorn mentioned to Merry and Pippin when they reached their lands they found them devastated and dead .. AND that sounds like the incoming of the enemy
AriehnV: the brown lands
ArPharazonV: Isn't that mostly from the end of the Second Age, and the siege of Mordor?
AriehnV: maybe i am not entirely sure about the timing there
AriehnV: but i d think end of second age , early third? but with Ents and their understanding of time you cant be too sure
ArPharazonV: That's true. Everything's only a short while for them :-)
AriehnV: with dwarves i am not sure why Dwarf woman dont get mention ed
AriehnV: a not quite serious explanation was that nobody could tell the dwarf woman from the dwarf men and they were there all along :-)
ArPharazonV: Oh, that's probably part of it :-)
ArPharazonV: The other half is that they were rarer, and presumably adventured less.
AriehnV: indeed

ArPharazonV: Oh, side-mention, Lunar Festival starts tomorrow in WoW.
AriehnV: oh yes indeed :-D
ArPharazonV: No new achievements though.
ArPharazonV: Anyway, you up for more, or want to discuss anything further? :-)
AriehnV: I THINK thats it :-) w shant push it forcedly
ArPharazonV: Allright.
AriehnV: we had a little discussion a little trivia :-)
ArPharazonV: Always fun.
AriehnV: so i all take out my special sun mirror
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AriehnV: i will bend my rays and shape them in form of a hammer .. hitting the mirror it flashes "Aftermeetng*
ArPharazonV: Fancy.
ArPharazonV: Well, I think I already gave all my personal gaming news.
ArPharazonV: Starting to run out of common cards for the Hearthstone expansion, just getting duplicates now, and usually a new rare per pack. I said to myself that I'd go back to the classic packs when I come across one GvG pack with all duplicates, and it's often skirting the line now :-)
ArPharazonV: Still, every new card is a gain.
AriehnV: :-)
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: good night :-)
ArPharazonV: Goodnight!
AriehnV: Namarie for now :-)
ArPharazonV: Did you disconnect?
ArPharazonV: It said you just entered.
AriehnV: no i was just silent .. afk
ArPharazonV: ArPharazonV: Still, every new card is a gain.AriehnV: :-)AriehnV has entered the room.AriehnV: good night :-)
ArPharazonV: Did *I* disconnect, and miss a chunk of what you were saying? :-)
AriehnV: nice card this ;-)
ArPharazonV: What card? :-)
AriehnV: no i ArPharazonV: Still, every new card is a gain.AriehnV: :-)
ArPharazonV: Ah.
ArPharazonV: So any card!
AriehnV: any indeed yeah i won two games by chance or luck ^^
AriehnV: in hearthstone
ArPharazonV: I'm sure you've got skill too!
ArPharazonV: But luck is quite useful :-)
AriehnV: hehe yeah i mobbed one of them so with adds that he capitualed ^^
ArPharazonV: Ah, fun!
AriehnV: anyway sleep well :-) i ll see you next time
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
ArPharazonV: Until next time :-)
AriehnV has left the room.
ArPharazonV: saving and sending transcript
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