Valar Guild

September 8, 2013 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (6)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, fladrifv, Indis-(V)/karakedi25, Menelvagor Valar, VardaValar1 (presiding)

Meeting begins
    JRRT didn't want to have his books put into paperback and was blocking it.
    Hobbit tourism.
    Ability to fly.
    Balrog wings.
    More WoW

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: Look who set her alarm clock early.
VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
VardaValar1: I came to the room early and set an egg timer that just went off. :-)
ArPharazonV: hehe
VardaValar1: My regular alarm clock died and decorated the trash can earlier.
ArPharazonV: *mourns*
VardaValar1: All hail the brand new and more effective egg timer. :-)
ArPharazonV: *hails*
VardaValar1: Are you out of your game? Don't die on us!
ArPharazonV: Just finishing up my archeology daily.
VardaValar1: Nifty! Which race?
VardaValar1: (Inviting meanwhile)
ArPharazonV: Mantid. But got enough tol'vir fragments from selling the artefact to Brann, that I could make an artefact of those as well.
ArPharazonV: And it was a 100g cat, so that's nice :D
fladrifv has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Cool
VardaValar1: Aiya Ent!
ArPharazonV: Aiya Flad!
fladrifv: Hoom boom!
fladrifv: Aiya
VardaValar1: Fladrif, in LotRO yesterday my character was working with ents in-game. Memory sessions, moots of a sort, fighting, lots of stuff. : )
VardaValar1: Thought of you. :-)
ArPharazonV: Must've been a 3-day session, then?
fladrifv: thank you for memorying me while im standing here in my hill top
VardaValar1: They even mentioned your friend, Leaflock.
VardaValar1: Treebeard is in Fangorn Forest where we get to meet him. : )
fladrifv: my dear friend, how is he? I havent heard of him since decades
VardaValar1: He seems to be concerned a bit about the situation, but not moving around much yet.
VardaValar1: (Fangorn-Valar says hi!)
fladrifv: Hi back Fangorn!

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: We have a potential new member part way through the test. Problems with time zones.
VardaValar1: Any news from either of you?
ArPharazonV: Ah, time-zone trouble. I remember that.
VardaValar1: If you came in, you'd probably be able to catch Hurin from Norway.
VardaValar1: And Arien once in a while.
VardaValar1: Anyway, you're both of course welcome. Free to play is doing well.
VardaValar1: But that's a digression. Any membership news?
VardaValar1: Indis had her operation and it went well, able to drive a car again. : )
ArPharazonV: Ah, good!
fladrifv: yay!
VardaValar1: Unfortunately they found cancer cells in the abdominal fluid so she has to undergo chemo after all.
fladrifv: all the best Indis!
ArPharazonV: Ack. That's not good at all.
ArPharazonV: Good luck to Indis then.
VardaValar1: Best wishes from us all, Indis!

VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: Guess I'm a slacker in that direction, nothing new.

VardaValar1: Gaming:
VardaValar1: Any non-WoW, non-LotRO?
fladrifv: chess ... some old dos 2
fladrifv: total anihilation
fladrifv: ... been bussy
ArPharazonV: Eh, some more flashgaming. Among others I tried a bit of Cursed Treasure 2, sequel to a tower defense game I'd linked some time ago, and I'm not sure if I already linked this one last week.
VardaValar1: Bilbo's been playing some StarCraft 2, and he and Sauron have been doing a lot of first person shooter teaming up.
ArPharazonV: In case I haven't,
VardaValar1: Thanks, never hurts to see it again.
VardaValar1: Fangorn and I did StarCraft/BroodWar (which he's playing right now).
ArPharazonV: And I'm thinking of buying Rayman: Legends, which should release around this time; I'd only heard about it in the past week, but I want to continue the series :-)
VardaValar1: Some of the gang are playing League of Legends.
ArPharazonV: Direct sequel to Rayman: Origins, which was one of the reasons I'd upgraded my computer at the start of this year.
VardaValar1: Not sure how the Guild Wars 2 group is doing, haven't heard from them lately.
ArPharazonV: And Flad and I really need to get together for TA at some point.
fladrifv: yes and sc2!
VardaValar1: You've just been invited, Flad! and Phar!
ArPharazonV: That too.
VardaValar1: Sounds like fun coming up. : )
fladrifv: it is you are invited varda! :-)
VardaValar1: I don't have SC2...yet. But thanks!
fladrifv: we have sc1 too
ArPharazonV: Aye, I think I've got that somewhere.
VardaValar1: In-teresing.
VardaValar1: Interesting.
ArPharazonV: That one might not actually be installed yet.

VardaValar1: WoW:
VardaValar1: Phar was just telling a bit of news there. Go ahead if you have anything on WoW.
ArPharazonV: Oh, just reported on a bit of archeology, but that's really a frequent occurrence. We did kill heroic Ji-kun today, though! Which is the last heroic mode boss we'll be trying before the new patch comes on wednesday (tuesday for the US).
ArPharazonV: So if there's anything you still want to do for 5.3, do it now :-)
ArPharazonV: Yeah, I think that's it for me.
VardaValar1: That's really soon! Thanks for the warning!

VardaValar1: LotRO:
VardaValar1: We're trying to open up a server wide reward on Landroval server turning in Bounder's Tokens.
VardaValar1: They're found in odd drops all over the world, some places having more than others.
VardaValar1: They can also be picked up in the new Farmer's Faire games, as a bagful for each quest solved.
VardaValar1: Then we can pick up individual goodies.
VardaValar1: There's a nutty-looking new horse for the Farmer's Faire. One description was that it looked as if it were wrapped in bag material. ;-)
ArPharazonV: Ooh, would like to see a picture of that.
VardaValar1: Any other comments, suggestions, etc for anything at all?
VardaValar1: Trying to locate a picture; probably find one later but
ArPharazonV: Got a name for it?
VardaValar1: here's a great spot to see LotRO horses. It will probably be posted here soon:
VardaValar1: I was looking under festival horses, didn't see it. I can try digging around.
ArPharazonV: No rush. If it's in a more convenient place soon, you can show me later :-)
VardaValar1: Anyway the Farmer's Faire is from September 5 - 19.
ArPharazonV: this the one?
ArPharazonV: It does rather look like it's hiding under a blanket...
VardaValar1: Thank you!
ArPharazonV: The power of search engines. All I had to do was search for farmer's faire lotro horse ;-)
VardaValar1: *tries not to keep digging through that site*
VardaValar1: Very good! Grats to a good web searcing person. :-)
VardaValar1: *searching*
VardaValar1: Must have cooked my brain. Keeps dropping a letter here and there.
VardaValar1: on to...

VardaValar1: Tolkien!
VardaValar1: I learned something recently, that you may already have known.
VardaValar1: JRRT didn't want to have his books put into paperback and was blocking it.
ArPharazonV: Hmm no, hadn't heard about that. Could be in the Letters?
VardaValar1: The publishers in the USA that are lambasted as pirates wanted to put it in paperback so it could reach more readers.
VardaValar1: It was in a site about publishing.
VardaValar1: After it was out in paperback and doing very well, then it was ok for everyone to do paperback.
VardaValar1: (And they did pay him royalties, apparently.)
VardaValar1: The market was opened up and far more people read his books.
VardaValar1: So it was both good and bad.
VardaValar1: I am very heavily into paperbacks for shelf space and because they are easier to carry in my purse. Sauron dropes them into his pocket (big guy).
ArPharazonV: So they published in paperback without his permission, but did pay him royalties. Tricky, that.
VardaValar1: Aye, it was an odd thing.
ArPharazonV: Oh yes, I've got paperback of nearly everything. All my Tolkien-stuff is paperback, nearly all of my Discworld stuff is paperback.
VardaValar1: My source is not necessarily 100% correct, but pretty trustworthy.
VardaValar1: Some of the Histories of mine are hardback, since they weren't available around here in paperback. And I wanted them! Precioussss.
VardaValar1: But they would fit much better and be easier to dig out of the shelf if they were paperback.
VardaValar1: That was my nifty new bit to share with you. : )

VardaValar1: The Hobbit movie makers are leaving more up in New Zealand after the movies this time, at the request of New Zealand.
VardaValar1: The country now realizes they can get great tourist traffic that way. : )
VardaValar1: At least one hobbit hole door should open and show an interior. Would be great to see!
ArPharazonV: Heh. Perhaps it's an example more fantasy movies shot outdoors will be following.
VardaValar1: It'll be interesting to see how much they actually leave up or add.
karakedi25 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: That would be smart.
karakedi25: aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya Indis :-)
VardaValar1: We were just finishing up. Glad you caught us!
ArPharazonV: Build an elaborate set for a movie, movie becomes a success, leave the set standing for tourists. It's not a bad idea, really.
karakedi25: that was quick
ArPharazonV: Aiya Indis!
VardaValar1: Aye, we got through stuff pretty fast with three people.
VardaValar1: Any other Tolkien topics we want to hit before adjourning?
VardaValar1: Alrighty then, now's probably a good time to turn you guys loose. What time is it for you, Phar and Flad?
ArPharazonV: 10 minutes before midnight
VardaValar1: Hah, going to beat midnight this time!
karakedi25: good job
ArPharazonV: Quick meeting indeed.
VardaValar1: Could you pass me that hammer on the third shelf up, Fladrif the Tall?
VardaValar1: Well, my Tolkien bit was pretty short. Just fun to find something completely new. : )
ArPharazonV: Worth a mention, always!
VardaValar1: yay!
VardaValar1: Can you reach it with those giant hands, Fladrif?
VardaValar1: It's ok. *flies up to the shelf and drags the hammer down*

VardaValar1: Another bit of trivia.
VardaValar1: Only Manwe, Varda, and their folk kept the ability to fly over time.
VardaValar1: This may be one reason Maiar Balrogs didn't fly. Like the evil ones they followed, they lost the perk.
ArPharazonV: But do they have wings or not? :-)
VardaValar1: *swings the hammer*
VardaValar1: *tha-dunnnnnk*

VardaValar1: After-meeting!
VardaValar1: And that's a tough question. : 0
karakedi25: let's not talk about balrog wings
VardaValar1: Something like spicy buffalo wings?
VardaValar1: Even if the Balrog of Moria had wings, he didn't have room to flap them. :-)
ArPharazonV: Good point.
VardaValar1: Wings look great when doing art. ;-)

AriehnV has entered the room.
VardaValar1: And the sun just came up!
VardaValar1: Aiya Arien. : )
AriehnV: Aiya all :-)
VardaValar1: Welcome to After-meeting!
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
VardaValar1: Last comment was that the Balrog of Moria didn't have room to flap his wings even if he had them.
VardaValar1: Cheers to you all!
VardaValar1: I'm going to join Gimli and our Game Master, Sauron, downstairs now. : )
VardaValar1: Free chat time!
ArPharazonV: Have fun!
VardaValar1: Guaranteed!
karakedi25: see you
AriehnV: enjoy

Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: aiya Stranger :-D
AriehnV: how are you?
Menelvagor Valar: Tired, but otherwise fairly good :-)
AriehnV: been out tonight?
Menelvagor Valar: Been out this weekend :-P
AriehnV: what ye been doing?
Menelvagor Valar: Went to a birthday party of good friends on saturday, and on sunday visited a nephew whilst visiting a (board and card) games convention, where friends of mine were also demonstrating their new game.
Menelvagor Valar: And is it just me, or is the meeting over already? Cuz seems rather silent here.
AriehnV: very nice
AriehnV: yeah its over already .. i missed it as well being a bit tied up in rp at the moment butr i didnt think it woulod be ;-)
AriehnV: Varda is busy with her tabletop so .. not sure what happened hehe
ArPharazonV: Rather short Tolkien section, with Varda sharing some new information she'd discovered.
karakedi25: namarie
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
karakedi25 has left the room.
AriehnV: Namarie
Menelvagor Valar: tabletop game, rpg, dinner? :-P
AriehnV: me rp in wow .. but just finished
AriehnV: Varda table top ;-) with Sauron as game master hehe
ArPharazonV: The all-seeing eye, swarming the players with bad guys. Rather fitting for Sauron.
AriehnV: indeed
ArPharazonV: Speaking of, got another Darkmoon Faire pet this week, a flaming eyeball... had to call it Sauron of course.
AriehnV: ooooh nice
AriehnV: my latest acquisition was a Nexus whelpling ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: bad guys? ... oh, you mean lawyers. Yes, that would be Sauron-esque :-)
AriehnV: acrtually it was Gahzrooki ^^ from the barrens after i discovered you dont need anymore the crazy Moju for the Barrens gear
ArPharazonV: Hmm, good to get it now, Arien, it'll go away in a few days. Well, I believe they can be rare drops from some mobs still wandering about the Barrens in 5.4 onward.
AriehnV: hehe oh yeah lawyers .. dont say the l word .. grin .. said the lawn ornament
ArPharazonV: But it's a lot easier to just get them now.
AriehnV: lwill the troll quartermaster still be there?
AriehnV: so that you can get the gear for 100 stone and wood or oil and coal?
ArPharazonV: I don't think so.
AriehnV: is it still possible then to do something with the gear drops from the area people werent able to get exchanged?
AriehnV: you know the dissident gear
ArPharazonV: Not sure. Might be on a forum somewhere. I never bothered with the gear, since I'm a raider.
AriehnV: hehe speaking of which got one of my mages to 468 itemlevel .. and been trying out some of the lfr which i didnt know before
AriehnV: so had a bit fun with lfr last week ;-)
Menelvagor Valar: Thanks for the nice chat, but I am off again, I am very tired.
Menelvagor Valar: Namarie!
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
AriehnV: bb
ArPharazonV: Next LFR soon, you need 496 for that :-)
AriehnV: ouch meh
AriehnV: it never stops does it ;(
ArPharazonV: Nope! It just goes on and on.
ArPharazonV: Well, this should be the last main raid of the expansion.
ArPharazonV: But we'll have more expansions after that!
AriehnV: woosh lol
AriehnV: when is the next one coming out then and what will it be called?
ArPharazonV: Not announced yet. Though there are rumors of trademarked titles floating about.
AriehnV: ah coolies :-) wonder how they will continue the horde alliance thing since they are more or less forced together by beating up Hellscream
ArPharazonV: They're not friends. The horde, with Vol'jin, isn't that friendly to the alliance, they just recognize the common enemy; I think it's more like "If the alliance is going to attack Orgrimmar, we might as well make use of it too."
AriehnV: *ah *smacks Nelf bear* :-P
ArPharazonV: Hey, I'm a nelf bear!
AriehnV: *pat *
AriehnV: Namarie :-)
AriehnV has left the room.
VardaValar1: Cool. Menel was on. :-)
VardaValar1: *flies off again*
ArPharazonV: have more fun!
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ArPharazonV: saving and sending transcript