Valar Guild

May 26, 2013 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (4)
    Arien-(Valar)/AriehnV, ArPharazonV, EonweValar (presiding), Indis-(V)/ karakedi25

Meeting begins
    Varda and family still out of state.
    Trivia questions

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
AriehnV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya.
AriehnV: heya
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: We'll give it a couple more minutes then begin.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's begin.

Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: You're here :}
Eonwe Valar: Any other membership news?
Eonwe Valar: Guess not :}

Eonwe Valar: Web:
Eonwe Valar: Nothing new for Web News at the moment.
Eonwe Valar: Doesn't seem the forum's been moved to Proboards v5 yet.
ArPharazonV: they're sure taking their time
Eonwe Valar: I believe the end of their transition time was the 29th, so they've got a couple of days, and if they're going alphabetically, we are "v".
ArPharazonV: True.

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Patch 5.3: Escalation was launched this week.

Eonwe Valar: LotRO:
Eonwe Valar: Spring Festival is going.
AriehnV: mh have some done of the spring rocket quests

Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
Eonwe Valar: Any other business?
ArPharazonV: Hmm, some flashgaming. Nothing very good.

AriehnV: pfft finally booked the larp weekend in four weeks .. nod
AriehnV: bookings open always only a month before ..makes me crazy since i have to book the holidays for them so long ago :-D
AriehnV: hopefully i ll get the robe for my new priest character also in a couple of weeks so that should get going now
Eonwe Valar: Good luck :
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: If there's no other business,...

Eonwe Valar: Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar: Quick mention of the RP: I've been considering my next post. That's all I have to share on it right now, hehe.
ArPharazonV: I think that's a common activity for us :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Do either of you have any comments on the RP, or any preferred Tolkien topic?
Eonwe Valar: OK, quick round of trivia then bang the gavel?
ArPharazonV: Eh, sure, if we can think of questions...
AriehnV: ok

AriehnV: .. hmmmm what kind of Trolls do we have in Lotr turning up?
AriehnV: and where?
ArPharazonV: We have "normal" trolls turned to stone, as the Fellowship comes across them... one with a birdsnest in its ear :-)
Eonwe Valar: I think they were called "Hill-trolls" somewhere..
ArPharazonV: Ah.
Eonwe Valar: They came out of the Etenmoors if memory serves.
AriehnV: yip thats one sort
Eonwe Valar: There's also stone-trolls, I think those were mentioned in the Mordor chapters.
Eonwe Valar: There's Olog-hai, which were mentioned in the battle at the Black Gate.
Eonwe Valar: Those are the only ones I'm coming up with off the top of my head.
ArPharazonV: There was no cave-troll as actively portrayed as in the movie in Moria, but I do believe there were one or two creatures in the book in that bit that could be trolls. Didn't they stab one in the foot, and didn't one attempt to open the door as Gandalf closed it?
AriehnV: one was killed in MOria too
AriehnV: aye Phar that one
Eonwe Valar: Was that all of them?
AriehnV: Hill Trolls of Gorgoroth .. is the new kind that Sauron bred
AriehnV: then the ones from the Ettenmoors that werent that smart as our three "friends"
AriehnV: the cave troll in Moria aye
AriehnV: thats all i think
AriehnV: i think the ones in the Ettenmoors are the ones referred to as Stone trolls
AriehnV: Olog-hai were without doubt bred by Sauron, but the stock was unknown. They were in fashion of body and mind unlike even the largest Orcs, far surpassing them in size and power. These had been filled with the evil will of their master, being fell, strong, agile, fierce, and cunning, but harder than stone. "Unlike the old race of the Twilight, they could endure the Sun as long as the will of Sauron held sway over them. They spoke little, and the only tongue that they knew was the Black Speech of Barad-dur."
AriehnV: Thats from Vardas article on Trolls ^^
ArPharazonV: sounds dangerous!
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
AriehnV: ok next question then Ar :-)
AriehnV: since this was a group collective in answering
ArPharazonV: Allright, let me get the details right on this, as much as there are...
ArPharazonV: Okay.
ArPharazonV: Name at least 5 great-grandchildren of Finwė.
Eonwe Valar: Hmm.
ArPharazonV: Feel free to give them one by one as you think of them :-)
Eonwe Valar: Celebrimbot.
Eonwe Valar: *Celebrimbor
ArPharazonV: That's one.
Eonwe Valar: Gil-Galad
ArPharazonV: Correct.
Eonwe Valar: Celebrian.
ArPharazonV: That's 3.
Eonwe Valar: Idril
ArPharazonV: 4
Eonwe Valar: Actually, naming Idril, the 5th should be easy enough: Maeglin.
ArPharazonV: Yep!
ArPharazonV: There's also Finduilas, but the whole lineage with Orodreth saw some revisions and it's unclear.
Eonwe Valar: Heh, really makes one have to think about those family ties to work that question out.
AriehnV: cool :-)
Eonwe Valar: OK, guess that means it's my turn :}
ArPharazonV: Go for it :-)
Eonwe Valar: OK
Eonwe Valar: Of Thorin's companions, name the ones that were of Durin's Line.
ArPharazonV: Hmm.
ArPharazonV: Let's start with Fili, Kili, Balin and Dwalin.
ArPharazonV: I'm also thinking Gloin, and by extension, Oin. Might be wrong.
AriehnV has left the room.
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: did i miss something?
ArPharazonV: What was the last thing you saw, if it was a slow disconnect?
AriehnV: last thing was .. "oin by extension, but i am not sure about thaqt"
ArPharazonV: Then you didn't miss anything.
ArPharazonV: ArPharazonV: I'm also thinking Gloin, and by extension, Oin. Might be wrong.AriehnV has left the room.AriehnV has entered the room.AriehnV: did i miss something?
Eonwe Valar: Fili and Kili- check
Eonwe Valar: Balin and Dwalin - check
Eonwe Valar: Gloin and Oin - check
Eonwe Valar: Still missing some.
ArPharazonV: Bifur, Bofur and Bombur come to mind. 2 brothers and a cousin, who were also vaguely related to Thorim.
AriehnV: Bifur Bofur and Bombur
Eonwe Valar: If I say no, this suddenly becomes easier, hehe.
ArPharazonV: Ori, Nori and Dori? ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Ori, Nori, and Dori - check.
Eonwe Valar: BIfur, Bofur, and Bombur, while descendants of Dwarves from Moria, were not of Durin's line.
ArPharazonV: Ah.
Eonwe Valar: So that's all of them :}
ArPharazonV: Which Durin, though, since I believe from ye olden days that the first Durin was the father of the entire population?
ArPharazonV: The seven fathers and all that :-)
Eonwe Valar: I'm not sure they were "fathers" in the literal sense, but they were the first Dwarves created.
ArPharazonV: Well, you'd think Aulė would also have made some females, at least.
ArPharazonV: ...From ribs, possibly? ;-)
Eonwe Valar: In some version of the creation of Dwarves he did create wives for 6 of the 7 fathers, but apparently the story was never fully settled (there were two or three versions), and the one we get in the Sil doesn't concern itself with that detail, just sort of lumps all the Dwarves together at their creation.
Eonwe Valar: Durin was the one without a mate, for the record.
ArPharazonV: That... could make the whole lineage rather tricky.

karakedi25 has entered the room.
karakedi25: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: Heya Indis.
Eonwe Valar: We were just finishing up Tolkien, unless you'd like to ask a trivia question.
karakedi25: haven't seen Varda for a couple of weeks--where has she been?
karakedi25: no, I'll pass, thanks
Eonwe Valar: She's been visiting Eowyn.
karakedi25: no computer?
ArPharazonV: Aiya Indis!
Eonwe Valar: I popped into LotRO the other night and thought I'd seen one of her characters had been logged into.
AriehnV: Where is Eowyn again?
karakedi25: Arizona or N. Mexico, I think
karakedi25: not the ends of the earth
Eonwe Valar: Could be Varda's taking some time to spend time with family.
karakedi25: what misplaced priorities ;-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
ArPharazonV: I hear some people are into that, yes. Family time. Can't think what could possess them.
Eonwe Valar: *Bangs Gavel*

Eonwe Valar: Aftermeeting:
karakedi25: namarie
karakedi25 has left the room.
ArPharazonV: namarie?!
ArPharazonV: *!
AriehnV: Namarie :-) i guess i should go bed i am so tired hehe
AriehnV has left the room.
ArPharazonV: Namarie :-)
ArPharazonV: again too late
ArPharazonV: have a lotr gif, though there's censored strong language at the end
ArPharazonV: Saving and sending transcript.