Valar Guild

March 24, 2013 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (6)
    Arien-(Valar)/AriehnV, ArPharazonV, EonweValar (presiding), fladrifv, Indis-(V)/karakedi25, Varda

Meeting begins
    Hearthstone: Heroes of WarCraft
    Trivia questions from the Silmarillion.
    Answer to the final question from the trivia.
    Some Valarites joined the SC2 clan and group.
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AriehnV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya :-)
AriehnV: aiya :-)
AriehnV: kids galore on the lose alas
ArPharazonV: Sounds horrible ;-)
karakedi25 has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Indis!
karakedi25: aiya
ArPharazonV: Email from Varda.
ArPharazonV: " Right now it looks as if I'll be away, but not certain. There's a fair chance I'll show up late."
karakedi25: running instances in lotro, so mostly afk but reading what's written
ArPharazonV: Out of town with Elwing, Fangorn and Sauron. I can't imagine the adventures that combination could have.
ArPharazonV: Guess we're waiting for the herald.
AriehnV: i think we ll have to .. there is nothing on the news page
AriehnV: apart from a link to the patch notes
AriehnV: for lotro for the update there
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya. Sorry I'm late.
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
Eonwe Valar: Give me a sec and we'll start the meeting.
Eonwe Valar: OK, let's begin.

Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
AriehnV: aiya Eonwe
Eonwe Valar: Heya :}
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: Varda's out of town right now, should be back later today.
Eonwe Valar: Celeborn's birthday was this past week. Happy Birthday to Celeborn!
Eonwe Valar: Any other membership news!
ArPharazonV: Happy birthday!
Eonwe Valar: Er, make that news? not news!
AriehnV: Habby birtthday

Eonwe Valar: Web:
Eonwe Valar: Nothing new at the moment.

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Lothar's somewhere past halfway into Stage 3. I'm hoping we make Stage 4 by Tuesday.
Eonwe Valar: *for the Isle of Thunder.
Eonwe Valar: In addition, I never have to go back to Molten Core again. :}
Eonwe Valar: I finally got the other half of the Bindings of the WIndseeker, and so soon I will have Thunderfury, and the Guild will have the Achievement for me having Thunderfury :}
ArPharazonV: Oh, grats!
ArPharazonV: Still waiting for my Eye of Sulfuras, been going to MC for like a year now ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Ragnaros was even nice enough to throw in another Eye of Sulfuras, if I *really* thought I needed to make myself a second Sulfuras, hehehe.
ArPharazonV: Can I have it?
Eonwe Valar: If it weren't soulbound and I could get it over there, it would've been all yours :}
ArPharazonV: hehe
Eonwe Valar: I racked up some 70 MC clears trying to get the Eye and the Bindings. Now my total can sit there unless I'm bored and want to go try for more pets, hehe.
Eonwe Valar: Though I got all the pets from there for myself already, and a few extras :}
ArPharazonV: Speaking of which.
ArPharazonV: Got my 12th pet from the 4 old raids 2 days ago, so now I have an achievement, and the Mr. Bigglesworth reward :-)
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :}
ArPharazonV: Thanks!

Eonwe Valar: LotRO:
Eonwe Valar: Patch 10.0.2 came out this week. See here for the patch notes:,Official
karakedi25: no major changes. I'm in an instance and fighting now, but I can give a bit more later.
Eonwe Valar: If it's not much, the patch notes are probably fine, unless you have some guild grouping to mention :}

Eonwe Valar: Starcraft 2:
Eonwe Valar: Don't think anyhere here right now besides me and Phar play SC2?
ArPharazonV: I haven't actually touched it in the past week. Been busy with stuff, including WoW. The new Isle of Thunder developments and more pet-hunting takes up some time :-)
ArPharazonV: Really hope I can play it a bit more in the next few weeks.
Eonwe Valar: Well, for the record, there's a post on the forum asking if those of us playing want to try and set up a get-together time and day. No one'se responded yet, so not much else to say on it.
karakedi25: nope, haven't run with the Valar this week
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming this week?

ArPharazonV: Some flashgaming, always the badge of the day on Kongregate

ArPharazonV: and Blizzard announced a new game they're developing
Eonwe Valar: I was just getting ready to mention that, hehe.
ArPharazonV: Ah, go ahead then :-)
ArPharazonV: Nothing more from me.
Eonwe Valar: At PAX East, Blizzard announced a game called Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft.
Eonwe Valar: Want to tell about it, Phar? :}
ArPharazonV: Nah, go for it.
Eonwe Valar: Hehe, ok, I tried :}
Eonwe Valar: It's a Free-to-Play strategy card game :}
Eonwe Valar: You play it on PC or IPad.
Eonwe Valar: Check out the Press Release here:
Eonwe Valar: You can see the website for it, and sign up for beta, here:
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming? :}
ArPharazonV: I think Fladrif used to play such card games. I'll make sure to let him know. Speaking of which, I see him online.
Eonwe Valar: Or any comments on Blizzard's newest "game"? :}
ArPharazonV: Nice trailer too, but with some impossible physical poses ;-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Now is a good time to whisper me Tolkien topics :}
fladrifv has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Flad!
Eonwe Valar: Heya Fladrif :}

Eonwe Valar: Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar: Let's do a round of trivia, then let everyone go about their business.
Eonwe Valar: Everyone here say Aiya.
ArPharazonV: Aiya
fladrifv: Aiya
karakedi25: aiya
Eonwe Valar: 4/5. Not bad, hehe.
Eonwe Valar: OK Phar, start us off :}
ArPharazonV: Let's see... Lotr or all?
Eonwe Valar: Everyone here familiar with Sil?
ArPharazonV: How about UT? ;-)
Eonwe Valar: I haven't read UT in some time, hehe.
Eonwe Valar: I haven't even flipped through it recently.
ArPharazonV: Fine, let's go with Sil. Let me think.
karakedi25: some of it
ArPharazonV: What was the name of the father of Werewolves, and what was his role in the robbery of the Silmaril from Angband?
Eonwe Valar: Draugluin. He was the werewolf that slowly slew Barahir and his companions when they were Sauron's prisoners.
karakedi25: doubtless had 'draug' in it.
ArPharazonV: Well done, but I'd like one more detail, concerning his role to the theft of the Silmaril :-)
Eonwe Valar: Finrod Felagund slew him, which cost him his life. It was with the skin of Draugluin that Beren snuck into Angand alongside Luthien.
ArPharazonV: And that's the one.

Eonwe Valar: Let's see...
Eonwe Valar: Continuing the "Nargothrond" connection...
Eonwe Valar: A certain someone was brought to Nargothrond by a former inhabitant, and he played a prominant role in Nargothrond's fate. Who was the "someone" who was the "former inhabitant", and what role did he play in that kingdom's fate?
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ArPharazonV: I"m thinking the someone was Turin.
karakedi25 has entered the room.
karakedi25: sorry got dumped
Eonwe Valar: Welcome back :}
ArPharazonV: The former inhabitant is an Elf who became a companion to Turin earlier in the story, but I can't recall his name. Voronwe was Tuor's guide, right?
karakedi25: what was the question
ArPharazonV: Eonwe Valar: A certain someone was brought to Nargothrond by a former inhabitant, and he played a prominant role in Nargothrond's fate. Who was the "someone" who was the "former inhabitant", and what role did he play in that kingdom's fate?
Eonwe Valar: To clarify the question a bit, the "he" that played a priminant role was the "someone" in the first part of the question.
Eonwe Valar: *priminant = prominant
ArPharazonV: As for how Turin played a role in Nargothrond's fate... mostly he urged Nargothrond to abandon secrecy and defend the surrounding lands by greater force, despite the way it would attract the attention of Morgoth's armies.
Eonwe Valar: Voronwė was Tuor's guide, es.
Eonwe Valar: es = yes
karakedi25: Don't remember the name, but it was the castaway that Turin found at the old Noldor capital
ArPharazonV: I think that was Tuor and Voronwe :-)
Eonwe Valar: Aye. Turin and .... this person :} ... had a different meeting.
karakedi25: right
ArPharazonV: Was it.. Gimlor?
karakedi25: Tuor..not concentrating fully (fighting)
ArPharazonV: No, Gorlim.
Eonwe Valar: No.
ArPharazonV: No?
Eonwe Valar: No. Gorlim is in the tale of Beren.
ArPharazonV: Ah,
ArPharazonV: hmm...
ArPharazonV: so many characters
Eonwe Valar: And I'm looking for something more specific in Turin's influence of Nargothrond's fate as well, something closer to the end of its existence, something the story of Nargothrond shares with Tuor's tale, if that's not too much of a hint.
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karakedi25 has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: It has to be either the curse on Hurin's children, or the dragon. Or both.
karakedi25: may be I'm using 2 keyboards
karakedi25: question?
Eonwe Valar: Same question,.
AriehnV: the dragon i think
karakedi25: about Gopndolin?
AriehnV: Nargothrond
AriehnV: And I'm looking for something more specific in Turin's influence of Nargothrond's fate as well, something closer to the end of its existence, something the story of Nargothrond shares with Tuor's tale, if that's not too much of a hint.
AriehnV: that was Eonwes quote
Eonwe Valar: IM'd Indis what she missed.
karakedi25: yeah, got it, thanks
Eonwe Valar: No, not a dragon.
karakedi25: I guess not Earendil
karakedi25: *trying to think of survivors of Gondolin*
ArPharazonV: Nargothrond. Not Gondolin.
AriehnV: hmm is there an heir loom that came out of gondolin that was used in LotrO?
karakedi25: Yes, Tuor is part of the story of Gondolin,which is why I mention it
karakedi25: Barahir's ring?
karakedi25: not that I know of
AriehnV: Aragorn had Barahirs ring tho
Eonwe Valar: Glandring and Sting.
Eonwe Valar: *Glamdring
Eonwe Valar: Notexaclty heirlooms, but they're from Gondolin.
ArPharazonV: Oh, Tuor's tale. I completely missed that.
karakedi25: yes, and it was used in LotRO, but not sure how it connected with Tuor, unless he was the one who gave it to Barahir
Eonwe Valar: No, Finrod gave it to Barahir.
Eonwe Valar: It would've come to Elros through Elwing, not through Earendil.
karakedi25: of course Finrod= Nargothrond
Eonwe Valar: But that's not the connection.
karakedi25: *nod*
ArPharazonV: In that case I'll go with the messengers from the south who tried to convince the people of Nargothrond to evacuate to the south and help with sealing to the Valar or something to the effect.
ArPharazonV: *sailing
ArPharazonV: The same message was sent to Gondolin and also unheeded.
ArPharazonV: And Turin was the key opponent of that idea.
karakedi25: (about to start fighting again)
ArPharazonV: Am I close?
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
karakedi25: Turin was such an egomaniac
Eonwe Valar: That's the important idea at least.
Eonwe Valar: Now if someone could just remember the name of the guy who brought Turin to Nargothrond :}
Eonwe Valar: Anyone remember any details about that guy?
ArPharazonV: I remember a blue lamp.
ArPharazonV: But that might have been an early version, since it was also related to Turin's killing of.. Beleg?
Eonwe Valar: Turin killed Beleg in the later versions too.
ArPharazonV: Yes, but not by lamp.
Eonwe Valar: OK, to keep this from getting too tedious, I'll tell you the name of the guy who brought Turin to Nargothrond.
ArPharazonV: Allright :-)
Eonwe Valar: He was once a great but rash Noldorin warrior who charged Morgoth's lines when his brother Gelmir was hacked apart. He was taken alive, prisoner, and made to labour in Morgoth's mines for countless years until he finally escaped, a man hardly recognizable to his former comrades. He met Turin, and in returning to Nargothrond the only person who knew him was his former love, Finduilas.
Eonwe Valar: His name is Gwindor.
ArPharazonV: Gwindor!
ArPharazonV: Well I was kinda close with Gimlor.

Eonwe Valar: Fladrif's turn, if he has a question :}
Eonwe Valar: And if he's still here :}
fladrifv: ok
ArPharazonV: Poking the Ent in MSN always seems to work.
fladrifv: what is the name of the town where hobbitton is located that was used in the movies as movie set
ArPharazonV: I thought they built that set in the middle of nowhere? :-)
Eonwe Valar: Not exactly the kind of trivia we're going for here :}
fladrifv: its close to a town
fladrifv: oh ok then skip me :-)
Eonwe Valar: And yeah, about all I know off the top of my head is that it was in New Zealand :}
Eonwe Valar: If anyone else knows the answer during the trivia, feel free to mention it :}
Eonwe Valar: Indis, are you there and do you have a trivia question? :}
ArPharazonV: I'm pretty sure the main studios were in Wellington.
karakedi25: yes, here, but no question
ArPharazonV: And the Orodruin scenes were shot at a real volcano.
ArPharazonV: Other than that, not a clue.
karakedi25: still doing instances
Eonwe Valar: Arien?
Eonwe Valar: OK, let's bang the gavel here.
Eonwe Valar: *Raises gavel into the air*
Eonwe Valar: *Bangs gavel*

Eonwe Valar: Aftermeeting:
fladrifv: matamata
ArPharazonV: That's the name of the town I assume?
fladrifv: nods
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya :-) Just got home
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: aiya :-)
VardaValar1: ^^
VardaValar1: Bilbo is in SC2, asking if anyone is there too?
ArPharazonV: Not me.
ArPharazonV: Eonwe maybe?
VardaValar1: Guess he's afk
karakedi25: aiya, and I'm where you'd expect me to be.
VardaValar1: Yay LotRO, where I'd like to be. Raiding I assume? : )
karakedi25: Farming instances for seals
VardaValar1: Elwing is borrowing one of our computers and entered LotRO just now. Her home comp is having a problem with the download
VardaValar1: Nice
karakedi25: Yay LotRO!
VardaValar1: Yay!
VardaValar1: She's borrowing Fangorn's computer so he's watching TV
karakedi25: I didn't report on the game since there wasn't a huge amount to say, and my fingers were busy on another keyboard.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Pardon, got disconnected. What is Bilbo's SC2 name? I can pop in and invite him real quick before getting back into WoW.
VardaValar1: ok, one sec
VardaValar1: Jovius
Eonwe Valar: Tell him to join channel Valar.
VardaValar1: He asks How?
Eonwe Valar: Right side of the screen, there's a list of channels, and a text field that let's you type in the name of a channel.
VardaValar1: Thanks
Eonwe Valar: "Enter a custom chat channel name" is in that field. just type Valar in there.
VardaValar1: He said he doesn't see you yet
VardaValar1: ok, he sees you now
VardaValar1: He figured it out. He was in Arcade, changed over.
VardaValar1: Sauron's about to come to SC2 also for an invitation
Eonwe Valar: Ok, but I can't stay in SC2 for long. I have someone waiting for me in WoW.
VardaValar1: sorry - leave if it gets too long
VardaValar1: His name is Sauron
Eonwe Valar: Sauron and Bilbo are in.
Eonwe Valar: Sauron as a Maia is an officer in the Group and the Clan.
AriehnV: right i am so sleepy tonight so i have to rertire
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
AriehnV: Namarie :-)
VardaValar1: Nighty night :-)
AriehnV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: By the way, we have Guild credit for Thunderfury now. Got it right before my internet cut out, fortunately.
VardaValar1: Yay Eonwe :-)
ArPharazonV: Congratulations :-)
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ArPharazonV: saving and sending transcript