Valar Guild

June 30, 2013 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (5)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Gilraen-(V)/Iryenth, Indis-(V)/karakedi25, VardaValar1 (presiding)

Meeting begins
    Forum rp story posting
    Funny LotR picture
    More rp discussion and posting

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ArPharazonV: Aiya!
VardaValar1: Aiya Phar :-)
VardaValar1: Elwing is at my house, says hi. :-)
ArPharazonV: hi Elwing!
ArPharazonV: My great great great ~ mother!
ArPharazonV: ..grand somewhere in there
VardaValar1: She says "Hello, Sonny!"
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VardaValar1: Aiya Arien :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: aiya there :-)
VardaValar1: Good to see you. :-)
VardaValar1: Looks like that time again! :-)
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VardaValar1: Flad, Gwai, Menel seem to be away.
VardaValar1: Aiya Gilraen!
Iryenth: Aiya
Iryenth: Gwai is currently making dinner, so he's afk ;-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya to both!
AriehnV: very nice
AriehnV: aiya to him indeed
VardaValar1: Huzzah for dinner!
ArPharazonV: Looking at MSN, Flad's away indeed.
ArPharazonV: And Indis just signed in.
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VardaValar1: invited
karakedi25: aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya Indis :-)
karakedi25: was about to invite myself :-P
VardaValar1: You're good about that, thank you!

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!

VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: Hello from Elwing, Fangorn, Bilbo, and Sauron at my house, also Gimli when he arrives. He's on his way over.
VardaValar1: Any other membership news? : )
karakedi25: *waves to the mob*
VardaValar1: *waves back*

VardaValar1: Web:
ArPharazonV: Aiya Indis
VardaValar1: Expecting to be able to put up a story or several from a member in the upcoming week, no promises.
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VardaValar1: Cool news. Indis gets a birthday on the US Independence Day. :-)
ArPharazonV: Really? And she didn't have one last year, or...
AriehnV: NICE grats
ArPharazonV: But grats :-)
VardaValar1: And Gimli has arrived, with corn dogs! yay!
ArPharazonV: Yay!
AriehnV: ;D
VardaValar1: Indis says she has to restart AIM
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karakedi25: I think I'm back.
ArPharazonV: You are.
VardaValar1: Welcome back :-)
karakedi25: ty
karakedi25: Verizon has a repairman out to fix my internet, and he's been having a lot of trouble. I'm going to go check on how things are going for him and will be in and out for that purpose.
AriehnV: ah i see
VardaValar1: Good luck!
karakedi25: *sigh*
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karakedi25: Big storm on Friday, knocked out a lot of people's power, and a lot of fiberoptic internet for many who didn;t lose power. They've had to bring in technicians from out of town to cover the load.
VardaValar1: Yikes
AriehnV: sounds evil
karakedi25: the storm was a doozy
karakedi25: sent by the Witch King
ArPharazonV: A weekend without internet sounds horrible.
karakedi25: I have a portable router that I've been using, but it has data usage (which FIOS does not) and isn't as good a connection.
VardaValar1: Is that what's letting you come on at all?

VardaValar1: Gaming:
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VardaValar1: Has anyone played games this past week besides WoW or LotRO?
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karakedi25: yes, and the tech is back again
VardaValar1: Yay Indis!
karakedi25: keep fingers crossed
VardaValar1: *cross*

ArPharazonV: Some flashgames. Can give you a few.
VardaValar1: *Hard to type*
VardaValar1: Sure, go ahead, Phar.
karakedi25: use your tongue
VardaValar1: *urk*
ArPharazonV: Well, the first one is the sequel to an interesting tower defense I liked (and, I'm sure, linked) in the past, and the gameplay's roughly the same with a few added features.
VardaValar1: So - improved version?
ArPharazonV: They do make it a bit harder :-) and the story's different, of course
VardaValar1: or actual sequel?
ArPharazonV: Actual sequel.
VardaValar1: o good :-)
VardaValar1: Might be easier on Indis' connection
ArPharazonV: Sequel story. But if you want to compare, it'd be more like Warcraft 3 versus Frozen Throne.
ArPharazonV: So more.. expansion.
karakedi25: ?
ArPharazonV: The other one...
karakedi25: everything is easier on the other one
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ArPharazonV: Do you remember a simple RTS game called... Clouds, I think, which I linked some time ago? Small base-like things, constantly producing units, send em to other bases until you control the map
ArPharazonV: In this case the bases were clouds.
karakedi25: I have something like that on my phone.
ArPharazonV: Well, since then I've seen a lot of games use the same idea, and one of them this week was JellyGo, at
ArPharazonV: With, again, some added interesting features.
ArPharazonV: So have fun!
karakedi25: Eufloria HD
ArPharazonV: Looking that one up, it doesn't seem to be exactly what I mean, but close enough :-)
VardaValar1: Thanks
ArPharazonV: Allright, that's my report

VardaValar1: Fangorn and I had fun with StarCraft BroodWar, as we often do, despite the age and non-support of the game these days.

VardaValar1: LotRO:
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VardaValar1: Currently we have the Buried Treasure Event, reached through special stable masters next to regular ones at main, lower level cities.
VardaValar1: It's a good way to help complete the map deed, collecting maps at festivals.
VardaValar1: plus other fun things, including the /rich emote.
VardaValar1: and house goodies.
VardaValar1: Indis, anything you want to mention about LotRO before the next crash? : )
karakedi25: I covet the rich emote
karakedi25: hehe
VardaValar1: Fainan has it. ^^ It's very fun using it with the house treasure chest (get that in this event) or in Draigoch's lair full of coins, for instance.
karakedi25: I've been busy completing the Wildermore area from the most recent update. Good story, well integrated with the epic.
VardaValar1: The event runs through July 21, so maybe your comp will be running well by then.
VardaValar1: Agreed. I like that one too, although it has a lot of sadness, like a lot of Tolkien's elvish writings but with humans.
karakedi25: I might break down and do it. My objection to it is that it's a gimmick to sell picks from the store.
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karakedi25: Yes, a lot of sadness, but a lot of strength as well.
karakedi25: And one even feels a bit sorry for Nurzum at the end (the big baddie).
karakedi25: Basically victimized by Saruman.

VardaValar1: Arien has something on SWTOR. Go ahead
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AriehnV: I am back in that :-) I am on the Sith Side on the Server where we have the branch i think
AriehnV: Arianda, a wee Sith warrior plus my two existing characters
AriehnV: just forgot the server name and the name of the characters alas
AriehnV: ah its the Ebon Hawk
VardaValar1: Aye, that's the one the guild group is on right now.
AriehnV: and the characters elsewise are Riena the Jedi Sage and Rieka the Mercenary
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VardaValar1: Good to know!
AriehnV: Just in case people might want to add me :-)
VardaValar1: You bet. Now we can find the names.
VardaValar1: Maybe we could use the forum to help keep track of some of this stuff.
AriehnV: aye i am not sure how much time i ll spend on this game but after the long download i am not willing to get rid of it again any time soon and so likely to pop in now and again :-)

VardaValar1: The forum has been getting hit by spammers with the new trick of posting on multiple threads with pre-worked posts related to a word kin the thread headline. This can really misfire on a Tolkien site. Eonwe and I are working to keep your forum clean. *dust dust*
VardaValar1: heh - glad to have you back there, Arien.
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VardaValar1: Love to drag you back into the LotROside too. ;-)
VardaValar1: /endsalestalk
ArPharazonV: Hah, I've seen some fo those, Varda. Some of them seem quite clever.
ArPharazonV: *of
AriehnV: hihi i know
VardaValar1: Aye, some are, some totally misfire.
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VardaValar1: So you know that although Eonwe has to work during meeting time, he's still out there helping in many ways. He catches most of the spammers.
ArPharazonV: A clue is when you look at the 10 most recent posts and they're all from the same strange name.
VardaValar1: I sometimes beat him to it, like a bowler picking up spares.
VardaValar1: Right
VardaValar1: That's usually that new spam style. Sure hard on looking up recent posts.
VardaValar1: WoW:
VardaValar1: We still have folks loyally showing up in both Alliance and Horde in our branches, fun still being had. : )
karakedi25: I have my good internet back, so I'm going to switch. Will almost certainly disconnect.
VardaValar1: Not many, but all appreciated. Glorfindel's back after computer problems, hoping they aren't ongoing.
ArPharazonV: See you in a moment then!
VardaValar1: Good luck, Indis!!

VardaValar1: On to Tolkien:
VardaValar1: First up right quick, the rp story on the forum.
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karakedi25: and...I'm baaack
VardaValar1: Eonwe reminds us that in the time line for the characters, it's been no more than a day.
ArPharazonV: Aiyata!
VardaValar1: Indis!
VardaValar1: Aiyata. :-)
VardaValar1: *waits a beat to see if she stays*
VardaValar1: And she's still here!
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VardaValar1: ack
VardaValar1: and gone
ArPharazonV: Spoke too soon.
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VardaValar1: Hasty of me. : )
karakedi25: it's very momentary
VardaValar1: Do you need to do a total reboot now? Gateway, etc?
karakedi25: not that I know of.
VardaValar1: Ok, good luck. I would do that after so much drastic stuff happening.
VardaValar1: Anyway, Eonwe said he had a couple of posts he wanted to do before we left Rivendell.
VardaValar1: Indis, you had at least one also?
karakedi25: Yes, Meren will bid farewell to Imladris, its wonderful library, and her new lore-master friends :-D
VardaValar1: Phar had one he wanted to do before he actually reaches Fainan, so it needs to be a pretty long post to bring him up to where Fainan is now hailing him.
ArPharazonV: Indeed.
karakedi25: I'll wait for him to post, then
VardaValar1: Arien, how about you?
ArPharazonV: I'll.. like.. try to make time for it before next meeting.
VardaValar1: Actually, unless you are posting with each other, you can both post as separate events.
VardaValar1: You don't have to wait for Phar.
VardaValar1: It might even help the break he needs to make before talking to Fainan.
VardaValar1: Arien, if you're present, would you like to make a post for Frali too? Fainan will be hunting for everyone, getting hasty.
AriehnV: all right
VardaValar1: This lets her know where to bump into you all. : )
karakedi25: poor impatient Fainan
AriehnV: can do but have to see what you post
VardaValar1: The foot-tapping Fainan. : )
VardaValar1: I did post
VardaValar1: Elwing to the LotRO group: she does not have LotRO back on her computer again yet, after the hard drive wipe. She hopes to get it downloaded again.
karakedi25: I hope she's not having Middle-earth withdrawal!
VardaValar1: She's over here playing a character on an open space on my second account right now. :-)
AriehnV: poor and lucky Elwing :-)
VardaValar1: Since she's paid for her time online, it's not very fair to be unable to play.
VardaValar1: I'm going to call After-meeting to allow people to work on rp posts but still get input if they want.

VardaValar1: After-meeting:
VardaValar1: *eyes the soft, nerf-hammer* Soundless!
karakedi25: *puff* ?
VardaValar1: *puff*
ArPharazonV: For aftermeeting, I'll give you...
ArPharazonV: The comments are also well worth reading.
VardaValar1: Oh the musical puns! :-)
VardaValar1: Thanks, Phar. :-)
AriehnV: And post ^^
VardaValar1: Woot!
AriehnV: hmm Frali reminds me somewhat of myself in Ulduar or the first time i was in Undercity ^^
AriehnV: but have a look ;-)
ArPharazonV: Undercity? That's all about underground passages ;-)
AriehnV: grin indeed :-D
AriehnV: i actually meant the fact of getting lost or confused by the outlay of the place hehe
karakedi25: Poor Frali
VardaValar1: Frali would be able to act kind of like a compass underground, a dwarven sense of general direction. Probably good idea of depth up and down, and of wall depth.
AriehnV: exactly but fresh air even if surrounded by mountains , or towns are not his territory
VardaValar1: Being in mountains and probably stone-work, should feel natural for him.
VardaValar1: Woods, not so much.
VardaValar1: Most of the group is from thick forest, very out of their natural terrain.
VardaValar1: Since Mirkwood has no Ring, and continuously fights the Enemy. the Mirkwood elves would have different attitude towards pretty much everything, and be more alert. That might be a reason Legolas was put in the Fellowship.
VardaValar1: Used to constant vigilance.
AriehnV: so you dont want to find him *by chanc * as he wanders around aimlessly?
ArPharazonV: I could find you outside after my conversation with as yet unrevealed npc, before Fainan finds me, but I can't help you find the smithies.
VardaValar1: Find the bad guy by chance? Nope. :-) Like to slip up on him.
VardaValar1: Frali in Rivendell needs but to ask anyone around him.
AriehnV: all right then i delete that again i thought it was funny
VardaValar1: Sorry, got confused what you were talking about.
VardaValar1: your post is fine
VardaValar1: Just like any guy, he didn't first stop to ask directions, tried to find the way on his own. :-)
VardaValar1: He has the sense to ask after getting lost.
AriehnV: its okay its deleted
VardaValar1: oy
VardaValar1: I still have it up if you want it back.
VardaValar1: Sure, Frali in the post can find the forge by chance. I thought you meant Angmar, sorry.
AriehnV: no i meant that Fainan could find Frali by chance while he is trying to find the place himself
VardaValar1: o sure, that is quite likely, or she might ask around. : )
AriehnV: okay i modified the post .. he found the way back to the building and asked someone but the Elf said to him it might be wiser to prepare himself for the continuing journey
AriehnV: so you could meet them on the way
ArPharazonV: Playtime's over, little dwarf, now get going!
AriehnV: The Elf is leading him back towards his room so there is chance there
karakedi25: how unkind, and even officious of the elf
karakedi25: posted
karakedi25: is anyone still here?
ArPharazonV: I"m here.
ArPharazonV: Thinking about my post.
AriehnV: I am here
VardaValar1: Aiya
karakedi25: I've posted
karakedi25: Meren is feeling a tad grumpy :-)
VardaValar1: Everyone else is exploring. don't see why Frali can't.
VardaValar1: That elf should have proudly showed him to their wonderful forges to show them off, or else they are reforging Anduril and trying to keep it a secret? Sounds weird to be secret though. Strider sounded off about it loudly enough.
ArPharazonV: Obviously Frali can't be trusted around magic swords.
ArPharazonV: News has gone around.
AriehnV: all rite then .. change it again
VardaValar1: I don't understand either Frali or Meren's post.
VardaValar1: No one has told either of them that we are leaving right away.
VardaValar1: Fainan has only thought about it and could get stopped.
karakedi25: The gear is ready for them to go, and the horses, at least as I understood Fainan's post.
VardaValar1: Elrond hasn't told anyone to go, not even Auros.
karakedi25: Meren would have heard about it, or seen it.
VardaValar1: The horses have just been re-shod, aye, and gear as far as Fainan knows their quest is ready.
VardaValar1: But no one told anyone yet that they have to go.
karakedi25: So I was fullowing your lead.
VardaValar1: k
karakedi25: I can revise it.
VardaValar1: Fainan hasn't opened her yap yet. :-)
ArPharazonV: I think we have a case of player knowledge vs character knowledge here.
VardaValar1: Meta-gaming, aye.
AriehnV: i ve just got no ideas
AriehnV: i am just giving you chances in running into him and you dont take any
karakedi25: In that case, I should hold off on my post, as Meren is busy in intense discussions with the Imladris LMs.
VardaValar1: Aye, she may have something important to add to what we're about to do.
VardaValar1: Fainan feels they don't have enough info, can't seem to find more, and that she needs to physically go scout.
karakedi25: I'll see if I can delete the post, or put some kind of placeholder in.
VardaValar1: Copy it somewhere if you want to use it later?
ArPharazonV: Feels like it could be pasted in elsewhere ;-)
karakedi25: I intend to.
VardaValar1: Ok, nifty
karakedi25: OK there's must a small post, as a placeholder.
ArPharazonV: Random introspective post for anyone who's not aware of its history ;-)
VardaValar1: Sounds much happier
ArPharazonV: May be semi-afk for a bit, gonna finish the daily quests in WoW I hadn't had a chance to today.
VardaValar1: Go for it!
VardaValar1: You say you posted, Phar?
ArPharazonV: No.
ArPharazonV: I was talking about Indis' post.
VardaValar1: o ok. Not blind then.
VardaValar1: Aye, works.
AriehnV: there you should be happy now :-P
VardaValar1: aww, Frali :-)
ArPharazonV: Yay, happy Frali.
AriehnV: he is down at the forges with Gimlli and blasting away with one of the smiths
VardaValar1: We're not getting you guys out of this place with a crowbar!
karakedi25: tee hee
ArPharazonV: we've been here for like a year now, all settled in ;-)
VardaValar1: Been there what, overnight only? : )
karakedi25: The only thing that will extract Meren is her sense of duty :-P
VardaValar1: Not an interest in learning about the strange, ancient runes?
ArPharazonV: Knowledge was made to be gained from stuffy books from the safety of your house.
VardaValar1: Original research time!
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karakedi25: that would attract her, true
ArPharazonV: Wooh, just found my last of the 5 Zandalari journals, which was the last achievement I needed on the Isle of Thunder.
ArPharazonV: So now I'm Stormbreaker :-)
VardaValar1: Congrats!
karakedi25: time for a late dinner
karakedi25: namarie
ArPharazonV: namarie!
VardaValar1: Namarie :-)
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