Valar Guild

August 18, 2013 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (6)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar, fladrifv, Indis-(V)/karakedi25, VardaValar1 (presiding)

Meeting begins
    WoW (more in the After-meeting)
    SC2 (during After-meeting)
    Link to a poem used for song lyrics.
    Tolkien Trivia Contest on our forum
    Topic: Plants in LotR seem to be mentioned quite often at special places and occasions. Maybe if you want to search your memory where they are and what plants :-)?
    Tolkien Moment: Aragorn at Cerin Amroth.
    Discussion of the Tolkien Moment.
    Blizzard launcher in open beta.

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
VardaValar1: Aiya Phar :-)
VardaValar1: Arien and I are in LotRO too
ArPharazonV: Ah.
ArPharazonV: Just left WoW.
AriehnV: aiya Phar :-)
VardaValar1: I might craft in LotRO or more likely leave. Distracting place. :-)
VardaValar1 has left the room.
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Not sure what happened there.
AriehnV: aiyata
ArPharazonV: You left and entered :-)
AriehnV: you flew out
AriehnV: shooting star :-D
VardaValar1: *settles down*

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: Sauron says hi from my house. Hurin and Tulkas are in LotRO. : )
VardaValar1: Indis will be having her surgery Aug 20, which is very soon, if anyone would like to wish her luck via AIM or email.
VardaValar1: Any other membership news?
VardaValar1: Bruce doing any better?
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya.
VardaValar1: Welcome back!
AriehnV: oops its an Eonwe that i see before me :-D
Eonwe Valar: Thanks. For today anyway, hehe.
VardaValar1: Great!
ArPharazonV: Aiya Eonwe!
ArPharazonV: That's been a while.
VardaValar1: Nicely timed, we're in Membership.
AriehnV: Bruce is doing fairly well all considering
AriehnV: i think his shoulder is getting better since he is on the computer a bit more
AriehnV: and talking about starting to work again or maybe doing it already
AriehnV: but he is still sleeping in the chair for the moment
VardaValar1: Sometimes you have to sit on an invalid to keep him still long enough to get well!
AriehnV: armchair that is fairly comfortable if you find sleeping while sitting comfortable
AriehnV: hehe , i think Shadow likes this arrangement ;-)
VardaValar1: Cat or dog?
AriehnV: cat
VardaValar1: hah, a Bruce cushion!
ArPharazonV: Looks like the cat is sitting on the invalid, then.
VardaValar1: Good cat!
AriehnV: *gg* indeed
AriehnV: in other membership news i am on holiday until first of september :-D
AriehnV: so thats why i have a bit more time for |LotrO atm
VardaValar1: Yay! and I'll bet Bruce and Shadow appreciate that.
AriehnV: oh indeed .. i was a bit sad though this weekend because i couldnt go to the Larp weekend
AriehnV: and there was a big ic wedding (the kings wedding in fact) yesterday
AriehnV: reading the thanks messages it must have been awesome .. sighn
VardaValar1: Did they post pictures?
AriehnV: havent checked yet but likely they will have or JP is working on it
VardaValar1: Nice :-)
VardaValar1: Eonwe, you had some news?
karakedi25 has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Indis!
VardaValar1: Indis, aiya! :-)
AriehnV: aiya indis :-)
karakedi25: aiya
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
VardaValar1: We're in Membership news. Eonwe's up next.
karakedi25: OK
Eonwe Valar: Just wanted to mention today's visit from me is brought to you by a dislocated shoulder, heh.
VardaValar1: ouch
ArPharazonV: Ouch!
Eonwe Valar: Ouch indeed.
ArPharazonV: Bad for you, good for us?
VardaValar1: There's that. : )
Eonwe Valar: Hehe.
karakedi25: yikes
AriehnV: ouch indeed
Eonwe Valar: At least I can type, albeit slower since I'm doing so one-handed. I don't know if I'll be doing anything particularly fun in games for the next couple of weeks though, at least it's not likely.
VardaValar1: Crafting maybe?
Eonwe Valar: I wonder if anyone would even notice in LFR, hehehe.
ArPharazonV: Minesweeper.
Eonwe Valar: There's that, aye :}
VardaValar1: Indis, how long do you think you'll be stuck offline?
VardaValar1: (about)
ArPharazonV: Oh yes, good luck with your ordeal, Indis!
AriehnV: best wishes for you with that Indis
Eonwe Valar: Aye, may it get resolved quickly.
karakedi25: Well, surgery is on Tuesday, so you probably won't see my alts then, but I could be back on as soon as Weds. depending on size of incision and my recovery. If I'm to be in the hospital more than one day, I'll have someone bring my travel computer. Mustn't miss too much lotro, after all :-P
Eonwe Valar: Hehe.
VardaValar1: For sure. : )
karakedi25: The surgeon hopes to manage the excision of my unneeded organs my minimal invasion, but if she can't, it will be a nasty open incision.
VardaValar1: That's pretty fast getting back! Impressive.
VardaValar1: Our best wishes go with you. : )
karakedi25: they throw you out of the hosp. after one night if it's laparoscopic
karakedi25: and thanks for the good wishes
VardaValar1: We'll catch you when they toss you out!
ArPharazonV: Heh.
karakedi25: LOL
Eonwe Valar: :}

VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: We're still trying to work out some weirdness with the last Gaming update, but can give you info here too. : )

VardaValar1: Gaming:
VardaValar1: What have we been doing in non-WoW, non-LotRO this past week? : )
AriehnV: Rifting away ... mainly crafting catch up
AriehnV: still 5 levels to go until caps
ArPharazonV: More flashgames! More of that creeper world stuff too, but managed to find a full game, and that's taking up some time :-) Otherwise some generic flashgames.
VardaValar1: Full game looking good?
AriehnV: levelling is awefully slow in that last decade especially when you only quest but i am a bit afraid of dungons
ArPharazonV: It's good. But I got it through torrent so I won't share the link. It's basically more of the levels of the flashgames I've already shown, so you should be fine with those :-)
ArPharazonV: With a bit of story attached.
VardaValar1: Thanks
VardaValar1: From Eonwe: Hearthstone is now in closed beta, for those who like those kinds of card games.
ArPharazonV: That was a virtual cardgame, right?
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
ArPharazonV: Might give it a go then.
VardaValar1: I'm assuming Fladrif is doing ok in his Chess tournaments.

VardaValar1: WoW:
VardaValar1: The Siege of Orgrimmar trailer is out:
VardaValar1: Link compliments of Eonwe. : )
VardaValar1: Any other WoW news?
Eonwe Valar: 5.4 looks like it's on the horizon, so wrap up your 5.3 stuff soon.
VardaValar1: We need more hours in the day!
ArPharazonV: And take a last good look at the Vale of Eternal Blossom. I think I might head in there and take a few screenshots before the end of the week.
AriehnV: oh yes i need to do that too
AriehnV: thanks for the reminder
Eonwe Valar: Aye
VardaValar1: That's just sad. Seems like we should still be able to go there in a time progression of the quests.
AriehnV: do you think we still have a week? some say it might be out as soon as 21st
ArPharazonV: That's why I meant "before the end of the reset" when I said "end of the week" :-)
Eonwe Valar: I was hearing as soon as the 27th, but don't consider it a solid date.
VardaValar1: Guys, power is flickering and my battery is tired from yesterday's downtime. May disappear suddenly.
Eonwe Valar: *not to consider it a solid date
ArPharazonV: Noted!
VardaValar1: Solid dates only happen after the event. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: :}

VardaValar1: LotRO:
VardaValar1: In our guild, we're working mostly in duos, trying to get our characters ready for the Helm's Deep expansion. Working on deeds, trying to get equipped.
VardaValar1: We're also working with some alliance channels for groups of kins, with quite a few kinleaders.
VardaValar1: This has been working out nicely. : ) It fills in our small groups or lets us join large raids.
AriehnV: i dont have those alliance channels Varda
VardaValar1: Arien, are you in LotRO atm?
AriehnV: if you want to give them to me :-)?
VardaValar1: I'll give you the info.
AriehnV: logged out in fact for once
VardaValar1: Ok, scribble it on a note. :-)
VardaValar1: Info in your side window, since it is passworded and this is a public transcript.
VardaValar1: Anyone else need it?
karakedi25: I think I have PPRC. What else? [side-windowed]
AriehnV: i managed to move my Guardian out of the darkness of MOria into the splendour of Nanduhirion :-)
karakedi25: hurray!
VardaValar1: Daylight!
AriehnV: still a tad bit on the lowish side with 57 but nae bother with them orcsses :-D
VardaValar1: Orc = Forest Fertilizer
AriehnV: *nod*
VardaValar1: Any other comments, suggestions?

VardaValar1: Tolkien:
VardaValar1: First up, Arien gave us a link. Would you like to re-post it here?
AriehnV: sure it is a little poem i found when i googled for the song of the lonely mountain
AriehnV: there are some typos in it and it is not directly Tolkien related but it has a clear reference
VardaValar1: Fan fic poetry, in other words. : )
VardaValar1: Maybe it can inspire some of our folk to do a bit more poetry too. : )
ArPharazonV: The Nothern Store is guiding me... I can see what yuo mean by typos :-)
AriehnV: Not to mention the Black Forest in it :-)
ArPharazonV: *northern
ArPharazonV: Typo in my typo. Hah.
VardaValar1: One reason Valar has their stuff edited before it goes online.
AriehnV: i like the Northern Sore guiding me grin
VardaValar1: ^^
VardaValar1: The forum story is ongoing. Might be able to add all sorts of comments there, as we're starting to get some of us together again.

VardaValar1: In the big news, Eonwe has posted the new Tolkien Trivia Contest!
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe, for your hard work on these things!
Eonwe Valar: *bows*
VardaValar1: or go to the Forum for most recent 10 posts. : )
VardaValar1: It's closed book.
VardaValar1: No Valar Honor can get prizes, but Maia and Full Members can. :-)
VardaValar1: Prizes are for WoW or LotRO, pick your game.
Eonwe Valar: Remember to have answers in before next Sunday, and aye, closed book. half the fun is seeing what you already know :}
ArPharazonV: And what we've forgotten...
AriehnV: I am only a bit unsure in two questions but i ll try :-)
VardaValar1: It's nice to just participate. It encourages others to give it a shot too.
ArPharazonV: Just two? I don't think I've got any idea for most of them :-)
fladrifv has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Flad!
fladrifv: Aiya just home :-)
VardaValar1: Aiya Ent! : )
VardaValar1: Welcome home
fladrifv: Thank you!
VardaValar1: The new Tolkien Trivia game is on the forum, Fladrif. Feel free to give it a shot!
VardaValar1: Does anyone have a Tolkien moment they'd like to mention?
AriehnV: i had an idea for a minor topic varda a couple of weeks ago
AriehnV: i dont know why it came to my mind but ... if you like?
karakedi25: I've sent in my answers.
VardaValar1: Sure, Arien
VardaValar1: Way to go, Indis!

AriehnV: Plants in LotR ...
AriehnV: seem to be mentioned quite often at special places and occasions
AriehnV: maybe if you want to search your memory where they are and what plants :-)?
VardaValar1: Trivia question or discussion?
VardaValar1: It is true that certain plants are found in very special places, as if something attracts them there.
VardaValar1: The flowers that grow only on the places where the Kings are buried.
VardaValar1: Lothlorien's gold and silver flowers.
ArPharazonV: And Lothlorien's trees too :-)
VardaValar1: Simbelmyne for the first.
AriehnV: Elanor the second
VardaValar1: Elanor, the little golden flower, one that Frodo suggested be used as a name for Sam's first girl-child.
AriehnV: Mallorn the trees
Eonwe Valar: Athelas was a plant grown and used by the numenoreans in their prime, and so is found near their old settlements.
AriehnV: used for healing , very effective against the black shadow and by its use the true ging could be recognised
VardaValar1: Ents taking care of trees tended to have specialties, like the rowan.
AriehnV: true king even
VardaValar1: Evermind, can't think of the elvish name offhand.
Eonwe Valar: Symbelmyne if memory serves.
Eonwe Valar: My spelling might be off.
ArPharazonV: Forget-me-nots?
VardaValar1: ah, so Symbelmyne above is also Evermind. Thanks. :-)
VardaValar1: Arien says no peeking. : )
AriehnV: well i have to check that .. me cheating .. but since i asked the question forgive me hehe
VardaValar1: Trying to think of the other flower in Lorien. Also mentioned in LotRO, o fellow gamers.
VardaValar1: seems like it had star in it.
VardaValar1: or looked like little stars in the grass
AriehnV: Evermind is Simbelmyne translated
AriehnV: growing only where dead men rest
Eonwe Valar: Has niphredil been mentioned?
VardaValar1: That's it! Thanks Eonwe. :-)
VardaValar1: I remember aeglos.
VardaValar1: Not sure how special it was though. Just spear-shaped.
AriehnV: and the last we havent mentioned is actUALLY Seregon]
AriehnV: a red leafed plant that grows on top of Amon Rudh
Eonwe Valar: Very symbolically used, that one.
VardaValar1: and the reason for the name of the place. Rudh is red
AriehnV: ruadh in gaelic
VardaValar1: Interesting. :-)
VardaValar1: Thank you, Arien. : )

VardaValar1: Arien requested that I type in the Tolkien Moment she had in mind.
VardaValar1: It's from "Lothlorien" in the Fellowship of the Ring, fits the topic nicely.
VardaValar1: At the hill's foot Frodo found Aragorn, standing still and silent as a tree; but in his hand was a small golden bloom of elanor,
VardaValar1: and a light was in his eyes.
VardaValar1: He was wrapped in some fair memory; and as Frodo looked at him he knew that he beheld things as they once had been in this same place.
VardaValar1: For the grim years were removed from the face of Aragorn, and he seemed clothed in white, a young lord tall and fair;
VardaValar1: and he spoke words in the Elvish tongue to one whom Frodo could not see.
VardaValar1: "Arwen vanimelda, namarie!" he said,
VardaValar1: and then he drew a breath, and returning out of his thought he looked at Frodo and smiled.
VardaValar1: "Here is the heart of Elvendom on earth," he said, "and here my heart dwells ever, unless there be a light beyond the dark roads that we must still tread, you and I. Come with me!"
VardaValar1: And taking Frodo's hand in his, he left the hill of Cerin Amroth and came there never again as living man.
VardaValar1: end quote.
VardaValar1: Can't top that. So here thunks our gavel for

VardaValar1: After-meeting!
AriehnV: :-) thanks Varda for that :-)
VardaValar1: Thank you for the reminder. JRRT can really paint a picture with words.
ArPharazonV: Odd that. You'd really think he'd be able to visit there later if he so desired!
AriehnV: i wonder if they took his body there after his death.. because of the last sentence
VardaValar1: His body was kept in Gondor. Merry and Pippin were laid beside him.
AriehnV: "he never returned there AS LIVING MAN"
VardaValar1: Aye, that is an interesting turn of phrase. As a spirit perhaps?
ArPharazonV: Haunting the place?
AriehnV: aye but in some cultures the body of the dead were sometimes taken around the land to places of importance to them~
AriehnV: before being finally buried
VardaValar1: Passing by beloved places on his way to Eru? Something Eru might have folks do to consider what happened in their lives?
AriehnV: yeah in that sense
VardaValar1: I'm away, before the break of your day. : )
VardaValar1: Namarie for now!
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
VardaValar1: I'll leave AIM up for bit, scroll back later.
AriehnV: Namarie for now and Wind under your Wings :-)
Eonwe Valar: Have fun :}
karakedi25: namarie
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
karakedi25 has left the room.
AriehnV: and Trivia answers sent ^^
Eonwe Valar: Yay :}
AriehnV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Oh, something I forgot to mention in gaming...
Eonwe Valar: 8_14_2013
Eonwe Valar: That's now in open beta.
Eonwe Valar: One day it will replace the current launchers for current Blizzard games and provide a common launcher for current and future games.
ArPharazonV: Oh yes. Should be interesting for us multi-gamers.
Eonwe Valar: Aye.
Eonwe Valar: I predict *eventually* some form of communication sans battletag/RealID, and possibly a multi-game version of SC2's "Groups", but we'll see if or how fast that comes to fruition :} I know it would be nice though :}
Eonwe Valar: Apparently I'm not the only one with these sentiments, so maybe they'll stand a chance of being implemented.
ArPharazonV: There, bunch of screenshots taken from the Vale.
ArPharazonV: Tomorrow I might do the same in the Barrens :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Well, some of the Korkron are apparently staying.
Eonwe Valar: The boxing gloves and gahz'rooki will drop from them.
Eonwe Valar: Low chance, but better than no chance.
ArPharazonV: Ah, not bad. I wondered how Blizzard would handle those two.
Eonwe Valar: Oh, another thing I forgot to mention in gaming, hehe. I can solo ICC10 as Ret up to Dreamwalker valithria. Got real close to getting her fully healed,.. about 95%+, but just couldn't keep up between me and her at that point with all the mobs.
ArPharazonV: Ouch. Close!
ArPharazonV: I wouldn't tackle that one without a healer at my side, really :0
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: I would've loved to see how I'd fare solo vs the Lich King, but alas, it was not to be that night. This all being before my dislocation, of course :}
ArPharazonV: Aye. Can imagine it's hard to solo stuff with one arm.
Eonwe Valar: Aye. lucky for me the farm doesn't put up much of a fight, hehe.
Eonwe Valar: * farm at halfhill
ArPharazonV: Just a few tentacles :-)
Eonwe Valar: Hehe.
Eonwe Valar: I hope at some point after 5.3 and before 6.0, lightning steel loses the cooldown. I'd like to finish learning the last 3 Reborn weapon lines, but at 30 days per, it's hard to muster the interest to log in every day just for that when I'd barely have time to farm the ore to make it happen.
ArPharazonV: Could buy the ore!
Eonwe Valar: Hehe, I could, but you know those guys overcharge :}
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Eonwe Valar: Oh, and SC2 patch 2.0.10 is out.
ArPharazonV: I think I read about that.
Eonwe Valar: Looks like alot of QoL stuff.
Eonwe Valar: And some bug fixes.
ArPharazonV: Was there also something about merging terran upgrades, or was that a balance test map thing?
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, I'd have to check that again. I skimmed over Terran pretty fast.
Eonwe Valar: Don't see anything about upgrades merging in this set of notes.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, Tolkien Trivia now in the news for WoW, LotRO, and SC2.
Eonwe Valar: Anyone who pays attention to News should know about it :}
ArPharazonV: ah, this is what I was talking about I think.
Eonwe Valar: Ah, just came across that on the us site.
ArPharazonV: Well, saving and sending transcript!
ArPharazon-V: saved
EonweValar: Thanks :}
ArPharazon-V: sent
ArPharazon-V: Namarie
ArPharazon-V (ArPharazonV) has left the room.
EonweValar: Sleep well, belatedly. :}
EonweValar: Well, I think I'll be off now. Take care, good night, sleep well, and have fu  :}
EonweValar: Good to get a chance to drop in and say hi :}
EonweValar: *have fun, that is.
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