Valar Guild

May 3, 2009 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00?)
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Ar-Pharazon and Varda

Attending: (8)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Fladrifv, Eomer-(V)/IWF519, Eonwe Valar, Gil-galad-(V)/Xseanzee disco, pallandovalar, VardaValar1 (presiding)
    Luthien-(T): in the sim that we tried during the Tolkien section as the one who did the artwork for the sim, with computer help from Fladrif.

Before-meeting
Meeting begins
Membership
Web
Gaming
Tolkien

Before-meeting:
You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
ArPharazonV: Aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya Phar!
ArPharazonV: 2 more bosses down in Ulduar this week!
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
FladrifV has entered the room.
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya!
FladrifV: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: Heya
Xseanzee disco: heyheyhey
VardaValar1: Gil-galad! Been a while. :-)
Xseanzee disco: school...
VardaValar1: Aye :-)
Xseanzee disco: i'd rather be in the pits of angband
pallandovalar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Pallando!
VardaValar1: and hi Eonwe and Flad : )
VardaValar1: LotRO people are giving me suggestions of what to bring up and how to organize their part of the forum.
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VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: No new members.
VardaValar1: Do you folks have anything you'd like to bring up under Membership?
ArPharazonV: mah birthday in 3 days *nod*
IWF519 has entered the room.
IWF519: Aiya Valarim!
VardaValar1: Happy birthday, Phar, almost anyway. :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
IWF519: I am Eomer if you dont recall
VardaValar1: Aiya Eomer
VardaValar1: We're in the Membership section now, good timing.
VardaValar1: Did you have any membership news, personal news you'd like to share also?
IWF519: only that Hunt for Gollum came out
VardaValar1: That would be web or Tolkien news, but thanks.
IWF519: k
IWF519: zry
VardaValar1: If there is no further membership news?
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VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: Eomer, please go ahead. Not all are familiar with that online movie. :-)
IWF519: www.thehuntforgollum.com
IWF519: it is a fan made movie about Aragorn's quest to find the creature formerly known as Smeagol
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: aiya all :-)
ArPharazonV: aiya
IWF519: it runs around 40-45 minutes long and is currently buffered in my web browser
IWF519: Aiya
IWF519: it looks to be quite special
ArPharazonV: all I get when I click that link is some file I can't play
VardaValar1: Is it still buffering maybe?
ArPharazonV: don't suppose there is an actual website?
ArPharazonV: nah, it's asking me to save a file or open a file
IWF519: i was getting that for a while as well
IWF519: http://d2xm3akt98wlh.cloudfront.net/player_film-low.htm
IWF519: try that is the actual movie
ArPharazonV: thanks, that works
IWF519: groovy
VardaValar1: On our own Tolkien Site, we have a new story:
VardaValar1: "Glorfindel of Gondolin" Short story by Jay of Lasgalen. "While cleaning the library of Imladris, Elrohir makes an interesting discovery." Elladan, Elrohir, Erestor, Glorfindel.
VardaValar1: http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/fiction/authorsT/JayofLasgalen/stories/GlorfindelofGondolin.htm
VardaValar1: Under Languages, we have a new translation of The Tale of Tinuviel into Sindarin by Luthien-T
VardaValar1: http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/lang/tranS/translationS/TinuvielTrans.htm
VardaValar1: Under Art, we added a page for Luthien's YouTube videos, the ones she mentioned last time.
VardaValar1: http://valar.game-host.org/varda/gallery/LuthienTV/caveLuthienTV.htm
VardaValar1: Videos on
VardaValar1: http://valar.game-host.org/varda/gallery/LuthienTV/mixedmedia/mixedmedia.htm
VardaValar1: Any further Web news? Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar: I've been working on stuff on the new server. Other than that, no.
VardaValar1: That would be quite a bit, and thanks!
VardaValar1: The domain name is still not pointing to the new server, so we are uploading to both servers to keep both current.
VardaValar1: Readers should have no problem.
VardaValar1: We've had a suggestion that we should be using the forum more for our News. But I think they may have just meant for gaming news.
VardaValar1: It's reasonable to ask for the scheduled runs to be posted there, and we should probably work that out and put them on there as soon as possible.
VardaValar1: We've also had a suggestion that the Forum could archive older threads, especially gaming threads.
VardaValar1: Do we have an archiving ability? Let's look into if we can do it or not.
VardaValar1: Eonwe, do you happen to know?
Eonwe Valar: Not off the top of my head, besides that I could lock older threads manually so they can't be posted to.
Eonwe Valar: I odn't think that's what they mean though.
Eonwe Valar: *don't
Eonwe Valar: What would be gained by "archiving" the threads that's lost by having them the way they are?
VardaValar1: Locking wasn't it, no. Just shove to one side out of sight.
VardaValar1: Easier to find the current events and news?
Eonwe Valar: Those should be at the top of the forum anyway due to being most recently posted, right below the stickies.
VardaValar1: What about deleting old, no longer needed questing threads after maybe 2 years?
Eonwe Valar: When I log in and I see stuff I haven't read yet, it has a little "new" icon next to the thread title.
VardaValar1: Aye, ok, so you're saying we can let the threads pile up since they are at the bottom. They don't take much space.
Eonwe Valar: I like having the old threads personally. I may want to reread them and say "oh yeah, I remember that run :}"
Eonwe Valar: I hope I'm not the only one, hehe.
ArPharazonV: always nice to have memories lying about :-)
VardaValar1: ok :-)
VardaValar1: I still feel bad about accidentally deleting some very cool threads, thinking I was moving them. gahh
VardaValar1: Also in Web news, Fladrif, could you tell about Valinor?
FladrifV: aye,
FladrifV: We are currently startingup the valinor server
FladrifV: Hopefully it is up and running during the meeting
FladrifV: the Idea is that we all by downloading a small client
FladrifV: can walk freely inside valinor
FladrifV: and later even update the envioriment to make it more our home
FladrifV: we plan to give the first live demonstration today lets see what happens
VardaValar1: It is still pretty basic, last I heard, but should have more details over time.
FladrifV: aye and the users can add detail
VardaValar1: Does it look like another hour maybe?
VardaValar1: O cool! :-)
FladrifV: something like that varda
VardaValar1: Guess Luthien's currently hard at work on it? :-)
FladrifV: aye we both actually
FladrifV: it has the option to fully change the way you look
VardaValar1: Thank you both! We'll let you get back to that.
VardaValar1: Any further web news?
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VardaValar1: Gaming Report:
Gruntz, tabletops, LotRO, WoW Argent Dawn server, WoW Lothar server, WoW Uldaman Server, EVE Online, Chess
VardaValar1: What games have you folks played this last week not WoW or LotRO? :-)
ArPharazonV: I played a few levels of Gruntz
VardaValar1: Pippin and Maedhros played some pen and paper gaming.
ArPharazonV: fun puzzle game oriented around a few weird-looking creatures trying to find their way home by collecting pieces of warpstones
VardaValar1: Sauron and Gimli tabletop D&D. Pardon, Phar :-)
ArPharazonV: that's allright, just a brief summary :-)
ArPharazonV: go ahead
VardaValar1: Needed, thanks. I would have thought it was from the book about Orcs. ;-)
VardaValar1: Anyone else?
VardaValar1: Pallando?
VardaValar1: I think Pallando is afk. :-)
VardaValar1: Eomer, Pallando is the one to speak with about Eve Online if he shows back up.
VardaValar1: LotRO:
Xseanzee disco has left the room.
IWF519: I dont play EVE
IWF519: that was Forlong
VardaValar1: Pardon
IWF519: i beleive
VardaValar1: Last night we had a group running in Carn Dum.
VardaValar1: Various instance runs all during the week, and smaller groups and duos here and there.
VardaValar1: The Saturday and Sunday morning runs are starting to happen again, sometimes on Monday morning if a schedule went nutty.
IWF519 has left the room.
VardaValar1: Some are talking about doing special times for runs
VardaValar1: One suggestion was a wild run for mats for crafters on some night, just funness mainly.
VardaValar1: Quote: run amok gathering mats.
IWF519 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: One suggestion was a Saturday afternoon or evening Book questing night.
VardaValar1: On to WoW
VardaValar1: Arien, go ahead with Europe?
AriehnV: all right :-)
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FladrifV has entered the room.
AriehnV: On Friday i was visiting Argent Dawn for a couple of hours to gain level 63 for my hunter Failivrin
AriehnV: I needed a break from all the adrenalin and nerves flowing from some intriguing fight at Hellfire Fortifications on the Auchindoun server
AriehnV: :-) so i went hunting in peace and quiet , and promptly met Ar Pharazon and Menelvagor in valar channel
AriehnV: On the pvp side my non valar guild with Helm of the Valar guild we had a nice wee trip to Exodar .. doing what we wanted , causing a lot of chaos and panic amongst low level allies
AriehnV: we got into the seat of the Naaru before we thought it wise to retreat
AriehnV: losses were only our lower levels (under 60) and myself at the end ;-)
AriehnV: we gained a fair bit honor and reputation
AriehnV: end of report :-)
VardaValar1: Thank you, Arien. : )
VardaValar1: Pharazon, did you have anything to add?
ArPharazonV: Valar-wise? nope.... but I had some good fun last week, working on the various world events and finishing my Higher Learning achievement
ArPharazonV: and progressing further in Ulduar
ArPharazonV: so it was a good week for me anyway :-)
VardaValar1: Sounds fun. : )
VardaValar1: Moving on to WoW Americas: Lothar
VardaValar1: Eonwe, did you have a report?
Eonwe Valar: Not a very long one.
VardaValar1: Doesn't need to be long. : )
Eonwe Valar: I spent the week working on the Argent Tourney stuff as well as Noblegarden and Children's Week. Arwen and I did cross paths working on the Argent Tourney stuff though, so she grouped with myself and a friend of mine to do those.
Eonwe Valar: I've Seen Sauron, BIlbo, Fangorn, and Elwing on during the week as well as Arwen, and some Varda person at one point too :}
VardaValar1: heeh
Eonwe Valar: That's pretty much it for my report.
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe.
VardaValar1: The other folk you mentioned did group together as well.
VardaValar1: WoW Uldaman server has been very active. Go Horde!
VardaValar1: We added Death Knights to our mix and finally finished collecting enough money for our first bank page.
VardaValar1: We're way behind you other WoWers, but that made us feel good anyway. : )
VardaValar1: We also started implementing a new title, one Eonwe was considering.
VardaValar1: It's above Member but below Maia.
VardaValar1: Currently we're calling it Veteran til we have a more lore-appropriate name.
VardaValar1: End report.
ArPharazonV: hmmz.. lore-appropriate, eh
VardaValar1: As in going along with Meldo, Maia, Vala which are our other titles.
VardaValar1: Eonwe and I have been considering various possible Elvish words.
VardaValar1: I think Bilbo suggested Noble could be another version, but the Horde group pretty much agreed on Veteran for now.
VardaValar1: Pallando has a report for Eve Online. Go ahead.
pallandovalar: Valar Corp is up and running, though just enough so I can wave the flag and say "here I am!" recruitment in Eve is hard just for a run-of-the-mill corp.
VardaValar1: Congrats!
AriehnV: :-) grats sounds familiar
pallandovalar: The Pallando character has had something of a 2 year training break, but he's back into it. Money is plentiful, and skills are increasing.
pallandovalar: If your interested drop me a line, either email or ingame.
pallandovalar: 3 week free trial, plus if you're interested after that I'm more than willing to using some of my funds to buy you another month.
VardaValar1: Don't make him do that guys. He's not rich. : )
pallandovalar: Last (always free) expansion made the new player experience even more absurdly better.
pallandovalar: /me looks at his wallet ingame
pallandovalar: Well, I'm not entity, but I still have a half bil on me from my last money making run.
pallandovalar: /me grumbles something about new kids having it so easy these days
IWF519: lol how'd you do that?
IWF519: is EVE the space game?
VardaValar1: Yes
VardaValar1: We also have people playing StarCraft/BroodWar, Diablo name any version, and the Diablo Tolkien mod. : )
VardaValar1: Pallando, what is your Eve name?
VardaValar1: Forlong is explaining Eve to the LotRO group, hehe.
pallandovalar: That's, um. A great question.
VardaValar1: How does another player contact you?
pallandovalar: It ought to be Pallando Luneistar, but I now suspect I'm spelling it wrong.
VardaValar1: Probably Luin for blue?
VardaValar1: Do you check your email fairly often?
pallandovalar: I do.
pallandovalar: Pallando Luineistar.
pallandovalar: I always forget a vowel in there somewhere.
VardaValar1: Look on the Membership page for Pallando's email, still correct.
pallandovalar: So yeah. If you're interested, just drop me a line via email or aim, or ingame.
VardaValar1: Thank you.
VardaValar1: Are you alone out there in space currently?
pallandovalar: If you get in before next week I may not have blown all my main's cash on an overpriced cruiser, too.
VardaValar1: lol
pallandovalar: Don't count on it.
VardaValar1: Think we're related. : )
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Mirithel: Tell him if I get on this week I will build him a cruiser
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Oromeld: good to know there is a valat crew there, I messed around with the demo, but I was a bit overwhelmed, maybe I will look again
VardaValar1: Mirithel is Forlong-V, Oromeld is Orome-Valar.
pallandovalar: Anyways, yes. anaore (can't honestly recall his 'regular' name offhand) is out there but wanted to join a "real" corporation, which I can't blame him for. Getting somewhere in eve really requires it. We get one or two more people out though..
ArPharazonV: anarore?
ArPharazonV: Menelvagor?
pallandovalar: That's the one.
VardaValar1: He does that in WoW too, don't feel bad.
ArPharazonV: he has a shaman in WoW called Anarore :-)
ArPharazonV: *nod* well, so do I, though my actual guild is a small backwater community that doesn't do anything..
VardaValar1: Hard to build up when people run off elsewhere to something already established. But we try. : )
ArPharazonV: but still, it's the oldest guild on our server and my first home since entering WoW so I'm not leaving it for the world :-)
pallandovalar: Tell Forlong that he can't build fleet issue stabbers, and Orome that if he tried it out any more than a few months ago, they've really changed the introduction. Much better now. Besides, he's got friends to explain things now.
VardaValar1: Passed it on.
pallandovalar: That's all for me.
VardaValar1: Thank you, that's a lot!
VardaValar1: Do we have further gaming news, maybe Fladrif's chess tournament?
ArPharazonV: if the Ent's not asleep again :-)
VardaValar1: He's talking in a side-window, give him a sec. These ents. : )
FladrifV has left the room.
FladrifV has entered the room.
FladrifV: still in progress
FladrifV: my network lagged
VardaValar1: Good to hear you're still going, not knocked out of the Tourney. : )
FladrifV: hehe, no actually its still the same game
FladrifV: but Im 3 pawns ahead
VardaValar1: An Entish game indeed!
ArPharazonV: hah, was gonna say
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Tolkien: we went for a stroll in Valinor
FladrifV: other news is, we are running the server now
FladrifV: you can message me for name
FladrifV: and pass
FladrifV: name consists of 2 parts
FladrifV: first and last
FladrifV: here you can download the client
FladrifV: http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=235285
VardaValar1: Ok, we might not want to use our Valar names since the Valar will be npcs
VardaValar1: Tough to have two Vardas running around for instance. : )
AriehnV: it really looks nice i have to say needs a bit exploring and trying out
AriehnV: i have logged in for a bit and i am set up
VardaValar1: Downloading now
ArPharazonV: I'm slowly setting it up, might be a little delayed though because I'm having a huge download-speed in my bittorrent and that doesn't happen very often so I'm leaving it on for now ;-)
ArPharazonV: got about 600 mb in the last half hour or so *grin*
FladrifV: hehe
VardaValar1: How many are trying this? Eonwe is afk
FladrifV: arien and you
ArPharazonV: I think I just got the actual viewer running
FladrifV: arphar did not request yet
ArPharazonV: so how does this work?
FladrifV: (12:30:06 AM) FladrifV: you can message me for name(12:30:08 AM) FladrifV: and pass(12:30:15 AM) FladrifV: name consists of 2 parts(12:30:18 AM) FladrifV: first and last
ArPharazonV: very small pushed away option in the corner says.. sign up for account
ArPharazonV: well, that's a start
ArPharazonV: we can choose our own name, or have you make one for us?
FladrifV: message me
ArPharazonV: with the name, or for the name?
VardaValar1: Message Flad with the name
VardaValar1: I have so much going on this little comp that it may go *phlop* any minute. : )
FladrifV: hehe
ArPharazonV: I'm.. in a mountain?
VardaValar1: You must be in that pit. ;-)
FladrifV: aye start position is not optimal
FladrifV: I invite all for a teleport to open land
ArPharazonV: I just saw a humanoid figure.. then it flew away
VardaValar1: What do we do for the people who may be emailing you?
VardaValar1: Mentions updated version. Want us to go for that?
ArPharazonV: haha, typing lag....
ArPharazonV: *eyes bittorrent*
VardaValar1: Guess I should
VardaValar1: WinRar is not free software.
VardaValar1: Weird way to update.
pallandovalar: WinRar is free.
VardaValar1: trial version I guess. Do we need this update?

pallandovalar: Also..just logged into Pallando for the first time in..awhile. He is not in a ship. [note: EVE Online]
pallandovalar: This..is interesting.
VardaValar1: Floating in space?
pallandovalar: docked.
pallandovalar: He, in fact, is the proud owner of nothing. I..do not recall this.
VardaValar1: Yikes
ArPharazonV: ouch
VardaValar1: Ticket a GM?
pallandovalar: No, I'm sure I just exploded everything an forgot about it.
pallandovalar: He has a few things.
VardaValar1: Corp still around?
pallandovalar: Now that I think about it he had nothing besides the ship, so I guess I lost that the last time I played him.
pallandovalar: Of course. corps don't die.
VardaValar1: O good :-)
pallandovalar: ..I'd ask if I was drunk when I did this..but I've never had a drop..why..does he have battlecruisers started?
pallandovalar: *scratches head*
VardaValar1: A corpsmate?
VardaValar1: You logged onto a different person than yourself? : )
pallandovalar: nope, definatly the right person.
pallandovalar: /me humms
IWF519: namarie all, i must be going
ArPharazonV: namarie
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ArPharazonV: would it be useful if we had Luthien in here for better conversation concerning this Valinor?
VardaValar1: Where is she? Is she in the Valinor Sim?
ArPharazonV: aye
VardaValar1: I'm in.
VardaValar1: Side of a mountain. See an island and cool stuff.
ArPharazonV: there's nothing like playing with your character's appearance to make you realise how ugly the human body actually is
ArPharazonV: by the way, for the sake of character appearance, any idea what Pharazon's hair-color was? I mean, "the golden" need not always refer to a person's hair
Eonwe Valar: If I recall, the Numenoreans typically had dark hair.
Eonwe Valar: I somehow doubt Pharazon would've been a blonde.
ArPharazonV: 't would be something, though...
ArPharazonV: he had the name Pharazon before his taking to the throne, I think
ArPharazonV: and Pharaz does mean gold
Eonwe Valar: He also gave away the treasures he got from sailing all over Middle-Earth, in order to win the favor of the people, if memory serves.
ArPharazonV: hmm, could be
ArPharazonV: still trying to read up on stuff
ArPharazonV: my god Fladrif's tall...
VardaValar1: Elongated like a proper ent. : )
FladrifV: *grin*
FladrifV: the landscape is more or less done
FladrifV: the scenery is at 0.1%
VardaValar1: laaaag
FladrifV: my internet connection is not the most powerfull in the world
ArPharazonV: how about facial hair?
ArPharazonV: did I have a beard? :-)
VardaValar1: I have to go join in a raid. Need to be there in 15 minutes. [note: LotRO]
Eonwe Valar: I'd imagine at some point Pharazon had a beard. Beards were more a symbol of wisdom and age at that point than a matter of fashion like they are now.
VardaValar1: I'd like more time to mess with this sim.
VardaValar1: I'll try again another time.
ArPharazonV: I just don't seem to find a beard-function in this thing...
VardaValar1: Namarie for now, will try again another time.
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ArPharazonV: namarie
Eonwe Valar: have fun.
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ArPharazonV: just quit the program, it's interesting, but a bit too designy for my taste
ArPharazonV: I never got the hang of simcity either *grin*
FladrifV: idea is that you dont need to design, just consume
FladrifV: but the ones who want can design
ArPharazonV: gonna save and send and go to sleep
Eonwe Valar: OK Phar. Sleep well.
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