December 12, 2004 Meeting
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
5pm EST
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Transcript team: Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, Varda
Before-meeting
Meeting Begins
Membership:
Beregond-(V) using VBeregond could not enter, but sent
a hello.
Fladrif-(V) sent
greetings.
ALOHA5463
on AIM is not to be
invited.
Webwork:
Tolkien Encyclopedia: new poem "Melkor"
Links: Card game nazgul;
language page
WoW page
Gaming:
Battle for
Middle-earth
WC3: WarCraft3/The Frozen Throne
WotR: War of the Ring
WoW:
How
to chat in different windows. Later put on Forum and planned for
guild's WoW site tips.
Making guild branch next week on
the Lothar server (Eastern).
Meet at StormWind, Cathedral of Light
Temple just outside the front. Guild escort can be available at
tram, and another for Night Elves at Ruth.... at the south end of
Teldrassil at the Hippogryph Master.
Tabard discussion. Links to
tabards and how to make. Tentatively chose flaming sword as the Secret
Flame of Eru.
Potential colors mentioned, nothing
chosen.
Practiced and we did this after the
meeting, even bringing in the most distant night elves. Be sure to
update your friend list.
WoW:
Tolkien:
See Before-meeting:
Did Frodo
ever kill anything? by Ar-Pharazon
Elf-healers usually
abstained from killing, by Eonwe
Colors of the Istari,
by Thranduil
Before-meeting:
You have just entered room "Valar Guild
Meetingplace."
Eonwe Valar: Hey :}
VardaValar1: Hi there
VardaValar1: Figured we could be afk
in the
chat room as well as just sitting around solo
Musics4Me2: heh
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: Olwe, do you have World
of
WarCraft?
FallenGlory: Getting it for
christmas :-)
Eonwe Valar: BTW, I got Redemption
last
night, so if we group and you die, I can
bring you back after the battle :}
VardaValar1: Great!
Eonwe Valar: Congrats
Olwë :}
FallenGlory: I had planned on
purchasing it
yesterday, but it was hinted to me that that
might not be such a good idea, heh
VardaValar1: A handy paladin you
are,
Auros :-)
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Kinda spoils the
surprise to
know though, doesn't it? :}
VardaValar1: just a hint, heh
FallenGlory: heh, I'm not really any
less
happy about getting the game now that its
hinted that I will, saves me $90 (for the
game and card)
VardaValar1: Nice!
FallenGlory: quite so, heh
VardaValar1: You do know we're on
Lothar
server, right?
FallenGlory: wasn't aware of that
VardaValar1: And you can tell us
your name
on the Forum
VardaValar1: We have a Forum section
just
for that, under World of WarCraft
VardaValar1: Now you know!
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
FallenGlory: So long as I get some
kind of
reminder after christmas, I'll be sure to do
just that : )
Eonwe Valar: And knowing is half the
battle
:}
VardaValar1: We have the info in the
Forum
and the News if that helps
FallenGlory: Alrighty
VardaValar1: And feel free to ask :-)
VardaValar1: I check my email most
days
FallenGlory: Cool stuff
Eonwe Valar: As do I :}
VardaValar1: We are trying to drag
10
people onto Lothar to set up the guild
VardaValar1: We seem to be scattered
all
over, so feel free to spread the word about
where we are
FallenGlory: Heh, okay.
FallenGlory: I find it surprising
that you don't
have over ten by now
FallenGlory: I would have figured
that people
would have flooded in
VardaValar1: They have to tell us
they are
on, their name, and be on Lothar
VardaValar1: For instance you didn't
know
to be on Lothar
VardaValar1: And Eonwe is our branch
leader
VardaValar1: Me too, Olwe
ArPharazonV: ok, done and back
VardaValar1: Hoping we can get ten
together
on a meeting day, like today
VardaValar1: Welcome back, Phar
ArPharazonV: quite the productive
day..
ArPharazonV: I spent all day playing
the lotr
board game, as well as several lotr maps in
tft
ArPharazonV: pc still in aftershock
it seems,
internet pages loading a little slowly...
VardaValar1: hehe
ArPharazonV: tomorrow I'm going to
buy the
EE Rotk :-)
VardaValar1: Congrats!
VardaValar1: I've been told not to
:-)
ArPharazonV: and last night I
finished 'the
great river'... leaving me one chapter away
from the end of the fellowship
VardaValar1: Great!
VardaValar1: Say, does that mean
you'll be
able to come up with a subject during the
Tolkien section? :-)
ArPharazonV: I have a question...
something
that was brought up during a lotr map
ArPharazonV: not really topicworthy
ArPharazonV: did Frodo
actually slay
anything?
VardaValar1: um
VardaValar1: Stabbed, but did he
ever kill?
ArPharazonV: that's my question, yes
VardaValar1: Good question
VardaValar1: Now it will bother me
and I
will have to dig around
ArPharazonV: :-)
VardaValar1: With all that fighting,
how could
he not have?
VardaValar1: Guess all those
protectors
around him might have kept him from
needing to
ArPharazonV: it's already stated Sam
slew his
first orc in Moria, but Frodo...
ArPharazonV: and Pippin slew an
orc-chieftain at the black gate
VardaValar1: Eowyn says he probably
at
least stepped on a few bugs
ArathornValar has left the room.
VardaValar1 has left the room.
Musics4Me2 has left the room.
MaglorV has left the room.
ArPharazonV has left the room.
FallenGlory has left the room.
Eonwe Valar has left the room.
FallenGlory has entered the room.
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
MaglorV has entered the room.
MaglorV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV has entered the room.
FallenGlory has entered the room.
Xseanzee disco has entered the room.
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: and indirectly killed
Gollum
ArPharazonV: what just happened?
VardaValar1: That was weird
Eonwe Valar: An interesting note
from HoME
that might be related to the topic: Elf Healers
usually abstained from battle and killing
Eonwe Valar: aye, I noticed it too.
They
must've kicked me because it said I left and
I know I didn't make me leave :}
VardaValar1: Elrond?
ArPharazonV: Sam slew an orc in
moria, and
if I remember, a few orcs at Cirith Ungol...
Eonwe Valar: As an example, aye Varda
ArPharazonV: Pippin slew a chieftain
at the
black gate...
ArPharazonV: Merry probably killed a
few at
Amon Hen...
ArPharazonV: but not sure about that
VardaValar1: Frodo had a lot of
targets
available. Seems he should have killed some
MaglorV: Aiya
VardaValar1: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: I'll get an actual
quote for the
Tolkien discussion if you like, but I recall
that they believed they could heal better if
they did not kill.
ArPharazonV: Aiya, all
Gamatzgamatz has entered the room.
Gamatzgamatz: hello to all
VardaValar1: Aiya!
VardaValar1: Thranduil :-)
Eonwe Valar: heya :}
Gamatzgamatz: :-D
MaglorV: Aiya
Gamatzgamatz: i think i should change
my sn
Gamatzgamatz: to thranduilV
VardaValar1: Your character is in
our text rp.
Hope you don't mind my talking for you
VardaValar1: That would be nice : )
Gamatzgamatz: lol np
VardaValar1: O good : )
VardaValar1: Meeting hasn't quite
started
yet, officially, if you want to make it now
ArPharazonV: I've been rethinking my
whole
optional quest-thingy, and might have to
make a late edit to my last post
VardaValar1: Aren't second thoughts
fun? : )
Gamatzgamatz: ok
ArPharazonV: seems a bit more
realistic with
the new changes
ArPharazonV: although in my post,
the only
thing I have to change is this:
ArPharazonV: I've picked up some
useful
information here. They did not go careful
with their secrets, as they did not expect my
rescue."
ArPharazonV: but the real change is
the entire
background of the sub-story, and I'm glad I
haven't mentioned any of that yet :-)
VardaValar1: Handy
VardaValar1: And never blab secrets
in front
of prisoners ; )
ArPharazonV: right, but that's not
the point
VardaValar1: Never gloatingly tell
your plans
to the heroes
TheodenValar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Sorry, I digress
ArPharazonV: the point is that he
picked up
the important information before he got
captured, not after
VardaValar1: Hal, Theoden-King!
ArPharazonV: so that'll have to go
VardaValar1: That would be sticky,
alright
Eonwe Valar: *All Right Goldfinger.
At least
tell me your plans for world domination.*
VardaValar1: Right, Eonwe : )
Gamatzgamatz: i dont believe it
ThranduilV
and Thranduil V is taken
Eonwe Valar: Goldfinger *laughs* Oh,
I'm
not falling for that again.
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: We had previous
Thranduils.
Might be why
ArPharazonV: most important reason
for my
change: Menel pointed out the absurdity of
bringing Orcish prisoners to Thranduil
VardaValar1: Aye. Just lop off heads
and be
done : )
Gamatzgamatz: "no comment" - Thranduil
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: An Elf take orcish
prisoners?
VardaValar1: Not much point
ArPharazonV: which meant I had to
change
the keeper of the information from the Orcs
to the brother
Gamatzgamatz: BRB
Gamatzgamatz has left the room.
ArPharazonV: which meant I had to
change
the source of the information
ArPharazonV: which grew into a
radical
change in the entire background
ArPharazonV: on second thought,
'what'
would have been better in my above
sentences...
Eonwe Valar: aye, like why a group
of orcs
would be smart enough to have plans and
not smart enough to keep it from the
prisoner? :}
VardaValar1: Most likely the plans
were not
made to the orcs, nor confided to them
VardaValar1: Although some pick up a
bit,
such as Grishnakh
ArPharazonV: so, I'll change my
post... just
not sure how
ArPharazonV: the exact wording
Eonwe Valar: aye, that is the tough
part Phar
ArPharazonV: ok, let's try this...
gonna edit
right now...
VardaValar1: It will come to you at
midnight
Eonwe Valar: Hmm is this all we can
drag
into the meeting?
ArathornValar has entered the room.
Thranduil Valar has entered the room.
ArathornValar: well that's dumb...
Eonwe Valar:
?
Thranduil Valar: finally a new name
ArathornValar: got booted from room
Eonwe Valar:
aye
MaglorV: Nearly everyone did
VardaValar1: We all had a giant
boot, or
nearly all
Grimbold V has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Eru must have hiccuped
ArathornValar: Silly Aim *sigh*
VardaValar1:
Aiya Grimbold
Grimbold V: Aiya!
ArathornValar: or sneezed
VardaValar1:
Aye
ArPharazonV: I've picked up some
useful
information on our mission, and didn't get a
chance to relay most of it to my companions
before we were captured."
ArPharazonV: perhaps this would fit
better...
ArPharazonV: really late edit... 8
days later :P
VardaValar1: That's ok, didn't wreck
the
story line
VardaValar1: Beregond
says his sign
in is
blocked
VardaValar1: Any ideas?
ArPharazonV: not sure, haven't
experienced
the problem
ArathornValar: to aim?
VardaValar1:
yes
VardaValar1: VBeregond
ArPharazonV: btw, sorry I missed
last
meeting, I saw a few interesting topics
ArPharazonV: first of all, I had
just read it,
and recognized the reference to Sting, with
the troll... not sure if you remember
VardaValar1: Maybe you could bring
them
back up at Tolkien time. Most can be
re-chewed from different directions
ArPharazonV: but most importantly,
ALOHA5463
VardaValar1: Frodo stabbed the troll
in the
foot
VardaValar1: when Boromir's sword
could
not
ArPharazonV: yes, that was it... I
had just
read it like one day before :-)
Thranduil Valar: hey guys, sorry to
interrupt,
but are the istari
labeled in colors by any
chance?
ArathornValar: my list sasys Vberegond
is offline :-\
ArPharazonV: anyway, I saw you
discussing
ALOHA5463 last week... she's contacted
me often in the last few weeks
ArPharazonV: istari? colors? you
mean blue,
brown, grey, and white?
VardaValar1: Thranduil, you are not
interrupting yet. And they do have colors
ArPharazonV: and after that many
colours,
and again white?
VardaValar1: Gandalf the Grey, or
White
VardaValar1: Saruman was White, but
took
Many Colors, not a Valar idea but his own
VardaValar1: Radagast the Brown
VardaValar1: The Blue Wizards Alatar
and
Pallando
Thranduil Valar: lol kool
TheodenValar: V Beregond cant get on
AoL
and we belive this is the problem
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/10/0
45226&tid=120&tid=215
ArPharazonV: the Blue
Wizards, aye, the
ones who left to the East
Thranduil Valar: were they fond of the
sea or
sky?
Thranduil Valar: due to the color?
Eonwe Valar: Ok, so what info did
you have
on Aloha5463, because this person just sent
me a message for the third week in a row
ArPharazonV: and probably did a
great favor
to Middle-Earth by dispersing the eastern
peoples enough so that they did not all come
in one mass...
ArPharazonV: ALOHA5463? we had quite
the conversation last week
ArPharazonV: says the name is Hannah
McPartlan, from Hawaii
ArPharazonV: relatively confusing
speech and
grammar, still not sure if she's actually a
bot...
ArathornValar: I, robot <grin> :-P
ArPharazonV: :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe well that's not
good,..
Eonwe Valar: the one time I accepted
her
message and tried to ask the person if I
could be of assistance, the answer was no
ArPharazonV: yup, that sounds like
her
ArPharazonV: today she asked me if I
lived in
a house, and that I had to answer yes or no
ArPharazonV: to test the bot-ness, I
answered 'yeah'
VardaValar1 has left the room. (Note: this was a crash)
Eonwe Valar: If I get something like
that,
she's going on my ignore list
ArPharazonV: she got quite angry,
said that
was not the answer she was looking for, and
told I was too stupid for it anyway...
ArPharazonV: small argument, and I
haven't
spoken to her since
Eonwe Valar: oh then she should go
on my
ignore list anyway :}
ArPharazonV: before I suspected she
was a
bot (FM suggested that idea to me), I asked
her if she got my username from the
Valarguild-site... pretty stupid thing to do,
actually...
ArathornValar: hmm.. Varda left..
Eonwe Valar:
aye
ArathornValar: odd
ArPharazonV:
she doesn't like Lotr, though,
she says
ArPharazonV: has no interest in the
Guild
Eonwe Valar: then she has no
business with
us
ArPharazonV: and upon the inquire
why she
contacted me anyway, she said she was
'board'
ArPharazonV: so she added all the
names
from the list
Eonwe Valar: really? what kind of
board?
cardboard, gameboard, poster board? :}
ArPharazonV: bored, with one of the
many
spelling-errors she often makes...
Grimbold V: heh...if you ask me she
should've
said "Borg" cause that's what she is acting
like if you ask me lol
Eonwe Valar: I know PHar :}
ArPharazonV: for somebody living in
a
US-state, she isn't that good in English
ArPharazonV: and yet, 17 years old
Grimbold V: "resistance is futile,
you shall
always see my poor use of grammar and
from then on use it, Assimilation is coming"
Eonwe Valar: Anyway, we should start
the
meeting :}
ArathornValar: er.. did you hear banjo
music in the background? <snortle>
ArPharazonV:
asimmmilimation...
top
Meeting Begins:
Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn
Omentielvo
Eonwe Valar: Membership: Same as last
week
Grimbold V: ok am I the only
trekkie
here...yikes *retreats to his
corner*....er...sorry
ArPharazonV: lol, I know who the
Borg are
ArPharazonV: I'm a fan, not a real
trekkie
though
Eonwe Valar: No, I've watched Star
Trek as
well, just we should get the meeting moving
:}
TheodenValar: I'll be logging off
now,
hopefully back later. I just pray that
my bios gets fixed on this try.
ArPharazonV: Namarie
Eonwe Valar: GL Theoden :}
TheodenValar has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Anyone have any member
news?
ArPharazonV: well, Fladrif
visited
me this
afternoon, so he's still alive...
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Thanks, Grimbold
ArPharazonV: Aiyata
ArPharazonV: you were offline in my
list, or I
would have invited you
ArPharazonV: still are, btw
VardaValar1: Thanks all :-)
VardaValar1: Still offline?
ArPharazonV: yup
Eonwe Valar: WB Varda :} do you have
any
member news? :}
FINARFIN010 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Sorry, no
Eonwe Valar: Fladrif visited with
Phar was
our last tidbit of member news :}
VardaValar1: Aiya
FINARFIN010: Aiya
ArPharazonV: Aiya
ArathornValar: ok, Thranduil's new ID
added to Quickaim page :-)
VardaValar1: Yay Thranduil and
Arathorn : )
Eonwe Valar: Beregond still working
on
getting in, so hopefully he'll make it :}
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Eonwe Valar: On to Web news:
ArPharazonV: (Aloha just signed off,
in case
you want to know :-))
ArathornValar: er guess I jumped the
gun on web news :-P
Eonwe Valar: Varda has some Web news
:}
VardaValar1: Tolkien Encyc:
VardaValar1: New Poetry:
VardaValar1: "Melkor"
by Georgia Stone
VardaValar1:
http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/po
etry/Melkor.htm
VardaValar1: She is
considering full
membership, and will at least join as a
Tolkien-only
VardaValar1: Wants the Indis name,
in either
case
VardaValar1: Under Links/ Languages:
VardaValar1: Mellonath Daeron is helpful
VardaValar1: Quenya, Sindarin, and
writing
systems Tengwar and Cirth
VardaValar1: Also
VardaValar1: Oh, that link
ArathornValar: Ahhh Finwe's wife (2nd
anyway)
VardaValar1:
http://www.forodrim.org/daeron/md_home.
html
VardaValar1: Had good
kids ; )
ArathornValar: indeed
ArPharazonV:
yeah, the two good ones of the
three...
VardaValar1: A Nazgul
link
VardaValar1: has a lot about the
card game
Nazgul
VardaValar1: nice to help
role-playing, since
Tolkien did not go into them much
ArPharazonV: with a female Nazgul, I
read
=-O
VardaValar1: But has some blatant
disagreements with the books, so beware
VardaValar1: Yes
VardaValar1:
http://www.rockjakten.com/nazgul_html/ind
ex.html
VardaValar1: Still
fun reading and seeing the
pictures
VardaValar1: That's all my web news
ArPharazonV: so if Tolkien never got
into
them
ArPharazonV: this is just pure
speculation and
fiction?
ArPharazonV: well, leaving out the
fact that
Tolkien is fiction as well
VardaValar1: Part is, part is
Tolkien, part is
wrong
VardaValar1: hehe, aye
Eonwe Valar: Any more web news?
Eonwe Valar: As a reminder, we do
have a
WoW site
ArathornValar: hmm sort of web and
game news mine..
ArathornValar: more game I guess
MaglorV:
And I am trying to keep it updated
:-)
Eonwe Valar: maintainted by Maglor
Eonwe Valar: er, maintained :}
ArathornValar: heh.. my news related to
that...
Eonwe Valar:
Go ahead Arathorn :}
ArPharazonV: the witch-king...
numenorean
prince... oh well...
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Gaming:
ArathornValar: ok, has to do with chat
in WoW..
VardaValar1:
WoW page may be reached
from guild's index
ArathornValar: I find that the chat is
kind of mixed up with all the
messages so...
VardaValar1:
http://www.geocities.com/maglorv/
ArathornValar: I created separate chat
windows and named them the
specific chat type...
Eonwe Valar:
THanks Varda,.. my attempt at
getting a link for everyone here didn't work
:}
ArathornValar: i.e. Party, Whisper, etc
VardaValar1:
*curtsies*
ArathornValar: Then I set ONLY that
type of chat message 'on'
VardaValar1:
If we ever get our guild going,
we will have a guild channel for chat too
VardaValar1: How, Arathorn?
ArathornValar: yeha, can Ad a Guild
window then too
Eonwe Valar:
Aye, tell us how :}
ArathornValar: getting to that Varda ..
heh...
ArathornValar: I was thinkign Maglor
could put the instuctions on the
site...
ArathornValar: You Right-click the
'General' chat tab..
ArathornValar: Choose "Create new
window"...
ArathornValar: Then right click on the
new window's tab...
ArathornValar: and set only the chat
values/types you want to appear
there.. forget the exact menu option
..
ArathornValar: runnign WoW now to
check..
Menelvagor
Valar has
entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
ArPharazonV: Aiya
ArathornValar: SO then you have extra
tabs in your chat area and can click
on them to see the messages
separated :-)
Grimbold V: Only drawback I have
noticed
w/ making a new chat window...is that you
have to switch back and forth between tabs
often if you wish to view General chat for
trades or general information
ArPharazonV: are you still informed
of
messages in tabs you currently have not
selected?
ArathornValar: You STILL have the
General tab to go to for all
messages
ArathornValar: I keep General on all
the time and ONLY switch to party
or whisper to see if I missed
anything :-)
Grimbold V: However..you can pull
the
window into a new part of the screen...for
example Normaly there are 2 chat
windows...General and combat....I have
pulled the combat chat window to the right
hand side instead of it being underneath
Grimbold V: the general tab
ArPharazonV: would that not clutter
up your
screen, hindering your view?
Grimbold V: so I have 2 chat
windows at
same time 1 on left "General" and 1 on right
"Combat" so I can see both chats at same
time
Grimbold V: you can shrink it to
only show a
few lines
Grimbold V: or make bigger to see
like a
page in a book depending on your
preference
ArPharazonV: I remember Asherons
Call 2...
the trial-period...
ArathornValar: Do you just drag it
Grim?
Grimbold V:
Aye
Grimbold V: "drag-n-drop" type
method
ArPharazonV: the new windows were
always
seperated, and at times you could miss vital
information in the view itself...
ArathornValar: Ok good.. I wanted to
do that but wasn';t working for
some reason.. trying again...
Grimbold V:
I believe you have to click on the
tab itself...keep it clicked and then move
Grimbold V: to adjust the
side...just click on
the window "frame" itself
Grimbold V: side=size
ArathornValar: all a matter of
preference Ar-phar. Can leave them
together if you prefer.
Grimbold V:
If you will excuse me I must go
attend an emergency at the clinic....if there
are any ?'s please send a Pm and I'll get
back as soon as I can. Namarie for now
ArPharazonV: Namarie
ArathornValar: Namarie
Xseanzee
disco has left
the room.
FINARFIN010: Namarie
VardaValar1:
Namarie
ArathornValar: rats, lost my WoW
partner :-P
VardaValar1: And thanks
VardaValar1: Just for now
VardaValar1: Emergencies end
Eonwe Valar: Thanks for the info
Arathorn
and Grimbold :}
ArathornValar: <pout> :-P
VardaValar1: Does anyone else have
difficulty seeing the updated member info on
Maglor's WoW site?
ArathornValar: Just as well, need to get
linen for my human ... heh
Eonwe Valar:
If there's no other Web News,
we shall use that as a transition into Gaming
News :}
VardaValar1: Such as Mairowen's name?
VardaValar1: I'm in Netscape and it
is not
updating
Eonwe Valar: It's fine for me Varda
ArathornValar: did you try clearing
your cache?
ArPharazonV:
Eowyn-V-Mairowen: Human
Warrior-Eastern/Lothar
ArathornValar: I see her in IE...
ArPharazonV:
I see her in Firefox
MaglorV: and I use Mozzilla
Eonwe Valar: I'm also in IE,.. only
ever use
IE :}
ArPharazonV: brb
VardaValar1: I reloaded the txt file
ArathornValar: You there Maglor?
MaglorV:
yeah
ArathornValar: Did you want to add a
'tip' section on the WoW pages
or..?
MaglorV:
sure... it'll take a bit of flsh
manipulation, but I can add another section
MaglorV: flash*
ArathornValar: If not, I can put the
instructions in a forum message for
now
Eonwe Valar:
Both would be good
MaglorV: yeah
ArathornValar: ha! thought you typed
'fish' at first :-P
MaglorV: hehe
MaglorV: gotta love maipulating
fish
ArathornValar: I just learned a fish
cooking skill earlier... couldn't find
a fire tho
Eonwe Valar:
The message will eventually be
buried (100 years or so :}) so having it on
the Web Page will be a great place to point
people as well
VardaValar1: Ahh, tried in Explorer.
It has
the scroll bar, but is cut off with no scroll in
Netscape
GwaihirValar has entered the room.
ArathornValar: Ok, I'll add a forum
message and MAglor can add to site
at his convenience
VardaValar1:
Aiya
GwaihirValar: Aiya
MaglorV: no scroll in
Netscape... that is
weird
Eonwe Valar: might have to actually
program
the scroll bar?
ArathornValar: btw, Maglor, would you
mind sending me the Flash
code...wouldn't mind seeing how you
coded it :-D
VardaValar1: It shows great in IE
MaglorV: sure
VardaValar1: Beautifully done
ArathornValar: good ole netscape :-P
ArathornValar: Thx Mag!
GwaihirValar:
sorry for the late arrival. we
had to go buy tinsel.
Eonwe Valar: OK on to gaming :}
VardaValar1: *Tosses tinsel to make
star
streamers*
FINARFIN010: hehe
Eonwe Valar:
*holds shield up to deflect
shooting tinsel stars* :}
GwaihirValar: the floor had more
tinsel on it
than the tree did
ArPharazonV: back
FINARFIN010: wb
Gaming News:
Eonwe Valar: Battle for Middle Earth is out
FINARFIN010: did you get it?
Eonwe Valar:
it's an RTS made by EA
Eonwe Valar: No, I haven't got it :}
got my
hands full as it is right now :}
FINARFIN010: does anyone have the
game?
Eonwe Valar:
If you play it, send me an
e-mail for the Games Page
ArathornValar: What kind of game is it
Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar:
WC3: Remember if you play
this to log in at least once a month :} We've
got about 15 under the one month limit
ArathornValar: what is it similar to..
Eonwe Valar:
It's an RTS (Real Time
Strategy)
Eonwe Valar: WC3, SC, WC2,.. :}
Eonwe Valar: WotR :}
ArPharazonV: Age of Empires...
Empire
Earth...
ArPharazonV: C&C series... well,
most of
them
ArathornValar: Is that like the
warcraft games?
Eonwe Valar:
Don't confuse it with WotR by
Sierra however
ArPharazonV: all RTS
ArathornValar: oh ok.
Eonwe Valar:
WotR is based on the bopok
license
Eonwe Valar: Battle for Middle Earth
is
based on the movie license
Eonwe Valar: bopok = book
VardaValar1: "Bopok" is a mysterious
Valinorean word for "book"
VardaValar1: just invented by a
Valinorean
FINARFIN010: hehe
ArathornValar: Btw, if anyone has extra
linen in WoW they're not using I
could use some right now :-D (char
Harana)
Eonwe Valar:
:}
VardaValar1: I do. But you'll have
to come
to our tree :-)
ArathornValar: er.. and Wool.. I'm too
low to fight for it yet "-P
VardaValar1:
or I could mail
Eonwe Valar: Getting to WoW Arathorn
:}
ArathornValar: You can mail it to me
Varda :-D
ArPharazonV: wool... does that mean
you
have to fight sheep?
Eonwe Valar: That means I'll have to
set up
that Trade section for the Message board
now :}
VardaValar1: Good plan, Eonwe!
Eonwe Valar: Ok Now the long news :
WoW
:}
FINARFIN010: fight sheep?
FINARFIN010:
are you kidding?
ArathornValar: You can but it's a quick
battle :-P
FINARFIN010: for thoes of you who
do not know me that was a pun
ArathornValar: Fighting sheep? Is that
like that old war tv series 'Baa Baa
black sheep'?? <runs for
ArathornValar: cover..>
Eonwe Valar:
First, we have 11 people
(rough estimate) playing WoW on different
chars
ArPharazonV: if not sheep
ArPharazonV: what do you have to
fight for
wool?
MaglorV: humans, or humanoids
GwaihirValar: aye, humanoids can drop
cloth...
FINARFIN010: wooldn't you like to
know
GwaihirValar:
easiest tradeskill to level
GwaihirValar: by far
GwaihirValar: lol
Eonwe Valar: OK guys, please take
trading
into private chats :}
ArPharazonV: ah, have to get up at
11 am
tomorrow... which means I can spend some
more time here :-)
Eonwe Valar: we have roughly our
necessary
number of players to form the Valar
GUild
on Lothar
GwaihirValar: our dinner will be
ready very
shortly, so we'll have to go afk for a short
while...
FINARFIN010: afk for dinner
VardaValar1:
That does not include the
Laytonrim, by any chance? We are all on
the same account
Eonwe Valar: My original impression
was that
each of these members must remain logged
in in order for their signature to count on the
charter
VardaValar1: So we count as one,
like an
oliphaunt
Eonwe Valar: Maglor tells me the
individual
characters can log out, so long as I do not
MaglorV: characters are seperate
from
accounts
MaglorV: and only the person
with the
charter cant log out, and that is a bug that
will be fixed
Eonwe Valar: If anyone has some
spare silver
we can give this a try next week
VardaValar1: The Laytonrim have been
collecting
Eonwe Valar: That's when I'd like us
all to get
together
VardaValar1: All you need is 10
silver, right?
ArathornValar: Good! Then we have
more than enough Mag?
VardaValar1:
How many could we get
together today?
VardaValar1: I see 3 of the
Laytonrim : )
Eonwe Valar: As a symbolic gesture,
I think
it'd be great if everyone who's going to sign
the charter throw in a silver,.. 10 silver for
10 people.
Menelvagor Valar: Namarie guys, my hosts
are getting to bed, so I am going too :-)
VardaValar1: Great idea!
MaglorV: yeah, each character in
an account
could join seperate guilds if they wanted, so
we have plenty to dign the charter
VardaValar1: Namarie, Menelvagor
Menelvagor Valar: Namarie
Menelvagor Valar has left the room.
ArathornValar: I'm in there for a long
while :-D
MaglorV: dign=sign
ArPharazonV: ahh... was away when
Menel
had to go
Eonwe Valar: So, let's all shoot for
being here
at the meeting, and immediately after, going
to Stormwind to make the charter
ArPharazonV: *shouts after him*
Namarie,
Menelvagor
MaglorV: sounds good Eonwe
VardaValar1: For practice, how many
could
we drag in if we tried today?
Musics4Me2 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiyata
Eonwe Valar: The easiest place to
meet in
Stormwind might be the Cathedral of
Light,
since it's in the center of town
ArPharazonV: Aiyata
Musics4Me2: Ah, sorry... AIM kinda
died
and I was away
Eonwe Valar: I could be there
VardaValar1: Do we have to be in the
same
place or just logged in?
MaglorV: have to be with the
person with the
charter
VardaValar1: Three of my family
could come
in
Eonwe Valar: you have to be close
enough
for me to have you sign the charter, which
means same place
ArPharazonV: dang, I wanna play that
game...
VardaValar1: Can you move to the
people or
do we need to move to you? Some of us
are young yet
Eonwe Valar: I can't get to Kalimdor
yet,..
haven't gone that far in my own questing
VardaValar1: Stormwind, human land.
VardaValar1: I'll start working my
way there
from Teldrassil
Eonwe Valar: here, I have an idea
ArathornValar: My human is in SW
right now :-)
ArPharazonV: that's a loooong way to
swim... :-)
Eonwe Valar: If I recall, there is a
ship in
Auberdine that sails to Ironforge
VardaValar1: How long do you have to
sign
up people once you get a charter?
Eonwe Valar: until I log out
VardaValar1: Might get a gryphon or
ship
VardaValar1: Don't crash! : )
MaglorV: the ship sails to
Menethil for IF
Eonwe Valar: If you go to Ironforge,
you can
take the deeprum tram to Stormwind
Eonwe Valar: *deeprun
MaglorV: Menethil is lvl 20+
area and a long
dangerous walk to IF
Eonwe Valar: hmm
MaglorV: but it has been done
VardaValar1: We can aim for the trip
to
Stormwind by next weekend. A quest!
Eonwe Valar: ]maybe some of us
higher guys
could escort the Night Elves to
Ironforge?
MaglorV: just run from the orcs
that try to kill
you :-)
VardaValar1: Run is good
Eonwe Valar: I'm not exactly
"higher" but with
my 17 I'm willing to make that attempt
MaglorV: id be willing to try it
with my 14 NE
VardaValar1: Higher than my 12 ;-)
Eonwe Valar: and I can rez anyone
that dies
once we get out of the battle
VardaValar1: It is a good week to die
ArPharazonV: the Valarguild's first
move...
could anybody take screenies?
MaglorV: i will
Eonwe Valar: I'll try to remember
MaglorV: i already have
hundereds :-)
ArPharazonV: nice...
MaglorV: i can spell...honest
VardaValar1: We have some human
characters who can just walk in. Yeah, right
Maglor. ;-)
VardaValar1: j/k
MaglorV: lol
Eonwe Valar: So that could be our
quest
tonight? escort Elves to Ironforge? If we
have enough people?
Eonwe Valar: Elves get to fight too,
and heal
if they are able :}
MaglorV: tonight?
VardaValar1: Eowyn is at Fargodeep
Mine
VardaValar1: Escort from where?
Eonwe Valar: Just thought I'd see if
we could
get anyone together :} Next week is good
too :}
MaglorV: if its tonight I can't
join you :-( I
have to go in a few minutes.
VardaValar1: I'd love to try
VardaValar1: Eowyn and Fangorn could
come
Eonwe Valar: Menethil
VardaValar1: I might drag in
Sauron's
character for him, if he does not come home
soon enough
Eonwe Valar: The ship in Auberdine
can take
you that far, and we could meet you there
ArPharazonV: you could also just
sign the
charter in menethil itself...
MaglorV: hehe, true
VardaValar1: When would you be back,
Maglor?
ArPharazonV: if you all meet up
there, no
need to get to Stormwind :-D
MaglorV: no idea, probably late
Eonwe Valar: Oh sure, negate the
quest
before it's begun :}
ArathornValar: I could log in with 3 of
my chars to get more to sign... ? if
we can get enuf at one sittng (3
from me)
ArPharazonV:
hey, you could always just give
them a tour through Lordaeron
VardaValar1: hehe
ArPharazonV: show them Stormwind
anyway
ArathornValar: I have 1 4 human
Eonwe Valar:
Getting them to Stormwind
makes sure we can meet anyway
Eonwe Valar: S
ArPharazonV: ah, of course
ArPharazonV: for the gryphons
VardaValar1: We can come up with
enough
silver surely
Eonwe Valar: scratch the S
ArathornValar: yeah I need linens
anyway!
ArathornValar: and wool.. we can kill
humanoids :-)
Eonwe Valar: OK, so, Guild charter
shooting
for next Sunday After meeting
VardaValar1: I can cook and sell for
a good
bit
MaglorV: silver is nothing...
wait until you are
doing quests worth gold :-)
VardaValar1: One gold for a tabard
Eonwe Valar: Aye, Tabards is the
next topic
:}
ArPharazonV: ooh, ooh, I wanna see
the
Tabard!
MaglorV: yeah, my 28 hunter is
making good
coin at the AH
VardaValar1: Transition away : )
Eonwe Valar: it's 10 gold to unlock
the
tabard, which means it will require the
generosity of everyone who can contribute
MaglorV: but hes on anotehr
server :-(
MaglorV: another*
Eonwe Valar: There's a slight
problem with
tabards
VardaValar1: Should we mail you the
money,
Eonwe?
Eonwe Valar: for the tabard or the
charter?
VardaValar1: Both, was thinking of
tabard
though
Eonwe Valar: for the tabard, yeah,
might be
better to mail the money
VardaValar1: Let you collect it as
Branch
Leader
ArathornValar: Be a while befire I get
a gold :-P
ArPharazonV: for the charter you
could just
wait until you are all in Stormwind, give the
cash in person, and then buy the charter
ArathornValar: *before
VardaValar1:
But together we can do it
Grimbold V: <----- Has returned
just in time
for good ol WoW Stuff
ArPharazonV: Aiyata
VardaValar1: Welcome back : )
MaglorV: well, i have to go,
I'll be on WoW
when I get home. Namarie
ArathornValar: that was quick Grim!
Grimbold V:
If we can get enough players on
tonite I will pay for full amount to get guild
started
VardaValar1: Great, Maglor!
VardaValar1: Might see you there
MaglorV: ok
ArPharazonV: actually, we've never
left the
topic, grimbold :-)
ArPharazonV: Namarie Maglor
VardaValar1: We would all like to
kick in
some, Grimbold : )
Grimbold V: Yea...it was a dog that
got hit by
car..but was very lucky..minor lacerations
etc
Eonwe Valar: There have already been
Guilds
in WoW with the same tabard design,
despite the plethora of choices we're given
ArathornValar: Where are you right
now in WS Eonwe?
VardaValar1:
That is good to hear
MaglorV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: WS?
Grimbold V: heh...10 silver is
pocket change
to my 21 Human warrior
ArathornValar: windstorm
Eonwe Valar:
I'm not in Windstorm
Eonwe Valar: Don't think I know
where that
is :}
Grimbold V: And I offer my sword
and shield
in escorting the Night elves to Stormwind
VardaValar1: Grimbold, is your human
warrior on Lothar
ArathornValar: How do you actually
make a tabard? Is it a gif file or
..how is it designed?
Grimbold V:
Indeed he is
Grimbold V: Arathorn its already
implemented in teh game....
VardaValar1: We thank you
ArathornValar: HA! I mean stormwind!
Grimbold V:
its a Tabard vendor
ArathornValar: Dyslexic again :-P
VardaValar1: Can we design our own
tabard?
Grimbold V: you design it and "buy"
it
VardaValar1: We have artists in the
group
Eonwe Valar: We have certain options
ArathornValar: but how is it 'designed'..
using what method?
Grimbold V:
only w/ the designs that they
have to offer, I don't believe we can design
and then "upload"
Eonwe Valar: we have icons, colors,
and
backgrounds to choose
Grimbold V: Arathorn I will show
you in
game later
VardaValar1: We should check on
whether
we can design
ArathornValar: can'r make our own
then?
ArPharazonV:
as long as it doesn't involve
drawing or painting, I can consider myself
an artist ;-)
ArathornValar: *Puts away photoshop..
* <grin>
Eonwe Valar:
No, we cannot make our own
design
Grimbold V: I don't believe
so...pertaining to
creating our own desing
Grimbold V: design*
Eonwe Valar: we can put together
what they
have given us
Grimbold V: I'll forage the forums
on that and
msg a GM about it..but I highly doubt we
can
Eonwe Valar: We can't :}
VardaValar1: It could be done in
DAoC I
think, so it's a maybe
Grimbold V: I scrolled through some
of the
designs the other day and I don't think I
even got 1/2 way through
Eonwe Valar: We have certain icons
(link
coming soon)
Eonwe Valar: that we can choose
Eonwe Valar: we choose a color for it
ArathornValar: I've seen the tabard
guy but never really looked into it
Grimbold V:
so there are a LOT of designs as
Eonwe will hopefully soon give us the link to
*smirk*
Eonwe Valar: we choose a border and
border color
ArPharazonV: I'd guess you choose an
outline, a color, a symbol, a background
color....
Eonwe Valar: then we choose a
background
color
VardaValar1: In DAoC we used a white
tree.
Is that one of those over-used?
Grimbold V: I have seen it a few
times
Eonwe Valar: I didn't see a tree
with leaves in
the icon
Grimbold V: not sure on the white
coloring
but I have seen the tree
VardaValar1: How about white and no
leaves?
Grimbold V: haven't seen that one
used..but I
have seen a design of a tree w/ no leaves
Grimbold V: not very becoming if
you ask me
Eonwe Valar:
http://wowvault.ign.com/?dir=guilds&conten
t=tabards
Grimbold V: in the
way they made it....just a
Rohaner's opinion
Eonwe Valar: that is a link to a
page with our
available icons
Grimbold V: YAY! thank you
ArathornValar: Can we choose a .. hat! ...
sorry.. that's an inside WoS joke!
<too bad Orodreth isn't here
<snortle>
VardaValar1