April 2, 2017 Sunday Meeting
EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
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Transcript work by Ar-Pharazon and Varda.
Attending (and at least
said something making them visible): ()
ArPharazonV, Elladan, Eonwe Valar, Lenwe (-V), Varda Valar (presiding)
Poetry: new this past week: "Kiera's Desire" by
General gaming report by Eonwe and several members.
Gilraen's suggested link for a crocheted scale-mail
This October will be the 20th Anniversary of the
Valar Guild. Time to think ahead.
Topic: Listening to some
people's comments about the LotR suggested an underlying thread. It's
not giving in to the belief that there's no way you
can win, even giving your life for it. That the attempt to win is still
Link to audio book of "Children of Hurin" read by
Flashgaming Reviews by
Personal gaming by Ar-Pharazon and Arien
Headed into games.
Varda Valar: Aiya. News before April is now archived. All News Archives
now link to the just made 2017 Archive. You heard it here first.
Lenwe (-V): Aiya. I heard it first ;)
Lenwe (-V): Heading to Marigold's for dinner, hopefully we'll be there
by the meeting but we'll see
Varda Valar: :-)
Varda Valar: For your pick-me-up for the day:
Varda Valar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qN72LEQnaU
Varda Valar: We'll think of you, Lenwe; :-)
Varda Valar: Aiya
Arien V: Aiya :)
Ar-Pharazon-V: huzzah, hamsterdance
Arien V: kyup lool nice one
Varda Valar: ^^
Arien V: i am sure its appreciated .. espeially after the incident in
London two weeks ago
Arien V: and you know they put up a wooden fence now for the changing
of the Guards
Varda Valar: Didn't know about the guards.
Arien V: yeah they did because its a major touristic event normally
Ar-Pharazon-V: If I had to change in public, I'd like a fence too.
Arien V: so tkhey upped the security measure
Arien V: :P
Arien V: not trhat way of changing silly
Ar-Pharazon-V: I know ;-)
Varda Valar: Well, here's another set of guardians in their honor:
Varda Valar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU4qbnNmxWA
Varda Valar: although they're allowed to be more active.
Arien V: mmmh
Varda Valar: Old Ghostbusters :-)
Varda Valar: and fun background music ^^
Varda Valar: Lot of lightning and thunder outside in real life. Hoping
it won't mess with the connection.
Eonwe Valar: Heya all :}
Varda Valar: Aiya Eonwe :-)
Arien V: Aiya :)
Eonwe Valar: Left computer up through the night/day to see how AIM
would handle it :}
Varda Valar: How did it do?
Eonwe Valar: I'm still here, so it seems to have gone well :}
Arien V: funnily i see the chat from the time i was offline too
Eonwe Valar: Btw, in response to the hamster dance:
Eonwe Valar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJog7PfkNRY
Ar-Pharazon-V: Guess that's version 8, Arien.
Arien V: uhu
Arien V: it doesnt handle th yuou tube links very well tho
Eonwe Valar: Well, if my internet had konked out for some reason, it
wouldn't have got me back in. It tends to need help, heh.
Varda Valar: Rooster bard :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: That's from the old Disney Robin Hood cartoon. One listne
and you'll know why I linked it :}
Eonwe Valar: *listen even
Ar-Pharazon-V: Funny, I thought it was an original track :-) Gotta
watch all those movies.
Eonwe Valar: :}
Varda Valar: How many of us are actually here? About 5 minutes until
Eonwe Valar: I'm here.
Arien V: i am sort of here ^^
Ar-Pharazon-V: See, now, that's difficult to tell unless you compare
the room-list to the buddylist.
Varda Valar: People can be on the room list and be far from their
Eonwe Valar: Aye :}
Arien V: yup
Eonwe Valar: Does everyone i.e. Meneldil, Gwaihir, GIlraen, have
invites to this channel?
VardaValar1: I'm adding people
VardaValar1: right now
Eonwe Valar: ok :}
VardaValar1: kind of weird, not like an invite
Ar-Pharazon-V: Gwaihir just entered, it seems.
VardaValar1: I added him and he appeared. Strange goings on.
Eonwe Valar: But it shows a red circle as if he's logged off, so don't
Iryenth .: aiya
VardaValar1: I don't see the red circle
VardaValar1: Aiya Gilraen :-)
Eonwe Valar: Heya Gilraen :}
Eonwe Valar: If you look at his name in the channel member list or the
buddy list, it shows a red circle for me.
Eonwe Valar: Don't know if that means busy or what. I guess it'd be
grey if he were offline.
VardaValar1: To me, it's the old yellow circle for away
Ar-Pharazon-V: In my version it says away.
VardaValar1: Let's get this show on the road. :-)
sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Hi from Fangorn and Sauron on this side of the screen.
VardaValar1: Hey, old emoticons are back!
Ar-Pharazon-V: I've still got my bear :-)
VardaValar1: My butterfly is back. Was a smiley.
Arien V: aiya back to the two :)
Eonwe Valar: Heya to Fangorn and Sauron, but I see no butterfly.
VardaValar1: Lenwe is traveling, moving to his new home. He's trying to
pop in when possible.
VardaValar1: Rest welll :-)
VardaValar1: and Hi, Elladan :-)
VardaValar1: Been thundering and lightning here, rain. Seems to be
calming now. Hope that means no connection problem.
VardaValar1: Any other membership news?
Eonwe Valar: I got my dose of thunderstorms this morning.
Ar-Pharazon-V: pretty good weather here
Ar-Pharazon-V: well, it was today, no idea what it is now, it's dark ;-)
VardaValar1: Arien needs to shine through those cavern tunnels for you.
VardaValar1: The News Archives
now contain 2017 news through March.
Iryenth .: Gwaihir says hi to everyone
VardaValar1: Thus your News for April should pop up fast.
VardaValar1: Aiya Eagle!
Eonwe Valar: Heya to Gwaihir :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Aiya Gwai!
VardaValar1: In Stories:
Desire" by Arien-(Valar).
Rogue in World of WarCraft goes Tolkienesque.
Arien V: Aiya Gwaihir :)
Arien V: Stories? Poem :)
VardaValar1: and we are now mostly trying to use the new AIM.
VardaValar1: In Poetry, *cough*
Arien V: okay :) *pats head*
VardaValar1: Thanks for catching that. *toe wiggles in the sand*
Ar-Pharazon-V: some in a later 7, some in an 8
VardaValar1: So we're all over the map, but trying.
Ar-Pharazon-V: at least if I crash this time, there's plenty of people
with access to back log.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Makes me wonder if my transcripts are needed ;-)
VardaValar1: Yes they are.
VardaValar1: We have members who never come to meetings, often don't
have AIM, who check transcripts.
VardaValar1: I've heard from some of our soldiers and other travelers
that it gives them a taste of home, of being with friends.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Yes, but there's plenty of ways for you now to gather up
logs without needing my transcript. But I suppose that's always been
VardaValar1: We'll see how it goes.
VardaValar1: And that assumes I'm here, no computer problems, etc. A
backup is a huge help.
VardaValar1: Eonwe, would you like to give the general report?
Eonwe Valar: Sure.
Eonwe Valar: World of Warcraft
Eonwe Valar: Patch
7.2: The Tomb of Sargeras
is out! See the patch
Eonwe Valar: For the
Season 3 has begun.
Eonwe Valar: Check out
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, AIM is throwing in some extra space there.
Eonwe Valar: Diablo 3:
VardaValar1: Thought it was for drama. :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe
Eonwe Valar: Season
10 is live.
Eonwe Valar: Starcraft 2:
Eonwe Valar: Out this week: Patch
Eonwe Valar: Check these out, and just consider what day they were
announced :} :
Eonwe Valar: Overlord
Announcer coming to StarCraft II!
Eonwe Valar: Breaking
News: StarCraft II Instability (Co-op Mutation).
VardaValar1: April Fools :-)
Eonwe Valar: Heroes of the Storm:
VardaValar1: (gotta love Overlord Announcer)
Eonwe Valar: There was a balance
update and a hotfix
Eonwe Valar: More interesting though is the announcement of Heroes of
the Storm 2.0. They've already got the open beta going, so check out
Eonwe Valar: A preview of a feature coming with Heroes of the Storm 2.0
is up: Flaunt
Your Hero Prowess with Hero Mastery Taunts!
Eonwe Valar: Hearthstone:
Eonwe Valar: There was a Hearthside
chat put up this week.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Yeah, that hero mastery taunts sounds rather
date-specific as well...
Eonwe Valar: I'll double-check it, but it sounds like something they
were talking about in the Heroes 2.0 announcement, so I assumed it was
the same thing.
Eonwe Valar: The Expansion
launches April 6th.
Eonwe Valar: A new E.
Malone's Journal is out: E. Malone's Journal - Week Four.
Eonwe Valar: And a bonus, since I missed putting this up on the Games
VardaValar1: yay bonus
Eonwe Valar: Blizzard has made a way for everyone to get the authentic
Blizzcon experience... for free! You *will* feel like you've actually
been there,... and well, it's better experienced than explained...
Eonwe Valar: Sorry, internet decided I needed a dramatic pause there.
Eonwe Valar: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/event-info/tickets/textual
Eonwe Valar: And that concludes the Gaming News I'm privy to for the
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe, That' s a lot!
VardaValar1: Spring Festival ends today, grab stuff while you can. :-)
VardaValar1: The past week's box run was "Seat of the Great
Goblin". Nice for us since we can get enough for 3-mans pretty easily.
VardaValar1: Kinmates seen this past week in LotRO:
VardaValar1: Any other mentions of kinmates seen in your games?
Eonwe Valar: Bofur and Nob in WoW
Ar-Pharazon-V: Saw Arien in WoW!
Iryenth .: Gwaihir and I have seen each other in d3 ;)
VardaValar1: Fangorn and I gamed together in StarCraft/BroodWar.
Eonwe Valar: Did you want the Games Site updated to reflect you play
Iryenth .: sure :)
Iryenth .: thanks!
Eonwe Valar: MP :}
VardaValar1: Gilraen found another great item.
Like to show that url?
Iryenth .: sure
Iryenth .: http://fashionablygeek.com/handmade/crocheted-dragon-scale-nomad-hood/
VardaValar1: Get out that crochet needle, folks. A must-have. :-)
Iryenth .: Definitely. I think I need one for sure.
Eonwe Valar: Games Site updated for GIlraen and Gwaihir. Anyone else
that needs their gaming info updated can whisper me right now while I
have the file open :}
VardaValar1: Thank you. That was fast!
VardaValar1: Any other news, business, suggestions?
Eonwe Valar: I have one thing.
VardaValar1: Fire away.
Eonwe Valar: Just for the back of everyone's minds, this *is* our 20th Anniversary coming up in October,
so I figured getting those ideas for celebration formulating now would
be a good idea.
VardaValar1: Oh, right. That's very special.
Eonwe Valar: So, start formulating :}
Eonwe Valar: That's it from me.
VardaValar1: Thank you, Eonwe. :-)
Iryenth .: I was just looking at the membership page and gosh, time has
VardaValar1: A bit shocking, aye.
VardaValar1: 2004 for Gilraen's entry
VardaValar1: Anyway, how about some Tolkien chat before some of us have
to leave? :-)
VardaValar1: Listening to some people's comments
about the LotR, I noticed what might be an underlying thread.
VardaValar1: It's not giving in to the belief that there's no way you
can win, even giving your life for it. That the attempt to win is still
VardaValar1: Manwe's eagles are seen as a deus ex machina, but they're
VardaValar1: They only show up after people have done absolutely all
VardaValar1: Frodo is said not to be the hero, that Sam is. Both are
really but don't be quick to dismiss Frodo.
VardaValar1: Frodo was almost certain that he would not survive the
attempt and that it was hopeless. He went on anyway.
VardaValar1: Look at Saruman.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I think everyone who fought and survived in that war (on
the good side) is a hero, really.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Heck, the dead ones too.
VardaValar1: Absolutely the dead ones too.
Arien V: Boromir i would definitely describe as hero
VardaValar1: Being wise, Saruman knew it was hopeless, by logic. But he
refused to choose death, which would have been heroic.
Arien V: he fought .. he mde a mistake . he recognised his mistake he
fought again and lost his life for it
Arien V: definitely heroic
VardaValar1: Saruman instead chose to attempt to survive, by throwing
in with Sauron, maybe get a chance to subvert him later but still
taking his place instead of saving the world.
VardaValar1: Agreed. Boromir redeemed himself in high heroic fashion
that any Viking would have been proud of, fighting to the last in a
hopeless cause because it was right.
Eonwe Valar: You know, one has to wonder just how many angles from
which Saruman really looked at it, if Gandalf can look at it and decide
the best course is to stir up some lazy Hobbitses.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Never underestimate the hobbitses.
VardaValar1: Saruman didn't have any faith in hobbits being able to do
anything, as he didn't see power there, and power was very big to him.
VardaValar1: He didn't see that their power was in a totally different
area, one the Ring could not fathom, one Sauron could not imagine.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, and to quote Yoda, "And that is why you fail."
VardaValar1: Lobelia wouldn't let those big human ruffians get away
with their nonsense. She hit at them with her umbrella and never gave
in. She was amazed to be called a hero after she was released from
Eonwe Valar: And I don't know if I would accept the premise as "there's
no way you can win." As Gandalf said, "Even the Wise cannot see all
Ar-Pharazon-V: Are you still a hero if you're doing it for yourself? :-)
VardaValar1: But some give up because they don't see any possibilty of
winning. Hubris because of what Eonwe just mentioned. Keep trying!
VardaValar1: Was Lobelia really doing it just for herself?
Ar-Pharazon-V: She seemed the type. Though her welcome afterward did
soften her up. It's nice to be liked :-)
Eonwe Valar: The point would be that if you know it is right, you do
it, even if you do not see victory. You don't shove your task off on
others and you don't force everyone else to join you in your task. It
may be your part to take it only so far (Frodo), and someone else's to
complete it (Gollum).
Arien V: I dont know whether Frodo saw it as victory
Arien V: completely at least#
Ar-Pharazon-V: He did for the world, but perhaps not for him :-)
VardaValar1: Lobelia after coming out of captivity was crushed at
Lotho's death and gave everything back to Frodo. If it has all been
just about her, seems as if she would have kept Bag End.
VardaValar1: Frodo is sometimes said not to be the or even a hero in
Lord of the Rings. In this light, I would say he definitely was.
Eonwe Valar: We're not given alot of detail on Lobelia's motivations,
VardaValar1: JRRT love to infer and let us figure things out. It was
part of his fun.
Ar-Pharazon-V: It depends on your definition of hero, I suppose, Varda.
He was no Hercules :-)
VardaValar1: Agreed. He was no Aragorn either. Aragorn appeared to be
the hero, but was a decoy.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Some heroes are more subtle. His uncle, too.
Eonwe Valar: I imagine alot of her motivation bother then (with her
husband) and at the time of Frodo's departure was securing success for
Lotho. When he died, with no heir apparently, there was no reason to
hold onto it.
VardaValar1: Lotho was the future for her.
Eonwe Valar: *motivation both
VardaValar1: Fatty Bolger. Hero or coward or just knew his limits?
Eonwe Valar: Probably alot of bitterness involved in there too, that
the warm welcome helped soothe.
VardaValar1: One of those that Saruman and Sauron couldn't see coming.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Knew his limits, did what he could. Still heroic.
Arien V: Hero i think ..
VardaValar1: Agreed on both.
Arien V: agree with Phari
Eonwe Valar: He sounded the alarm. If he were a real coward he would've
split and done nothing.
VardaValar1: Fatty helped save the world, giving Frodo time to get away.
VardaValar1: So many things had to happen for the ending to come out
well. Many had to play their part, small though it might seem.
VardaValar1: Merry saw that he could be a decoy to let Frodo head to
Mordor. Young Pippin bravely threw in with him, knowing how dangerous
VardaValar1: Boromir's sacrifice was not only the right thing to do, it
aided in the decoy effect, probably without his planning it ahead. But
he might have thought of it as a side benefit.
VardaValar1: We don't know his thoughts.
VardaValar1: We know what he did, and that was enough.
Ar-Pharazon-V: "Ouch, these arrows really hurt."
Eonwe Valar: I'm kinda torn here, because on one hand, he was a man
with obvious combat experience, so some level of strategy must come
into play for his thought process.
VardaValar1: He led men into combat in Gondor.
VardaValar1: I didn't get the impression that he had the decoy thought.
But the action did work out that way.
Eonwe Valar: On the other, I never got the impression he would've given
*that* much thought to it, at least not in that situation, to where he
might go to himself "If I make a big deal here, maybe they'll think
these are the important ones."
VardaValar1: If the thought it, it seemed more like a side thought to
"save the hobbits".
Ar-Pharazon-V: Or, appropriate to the topic, die trying.
VardaValar1: If *he thought, pardon.
Eonwe Valar: I don't think anything in the situation would've led him
to believe that it could've been used that way. For all they knew,
Frodo was under attack as well. What was important is that he was
charged with protecting Merry and Pippin, and that's what he was going
VardaValar1: Merry figured it out. They all knew Frodo was the hobbit
with the Ring. Scary to think Merry was the smart one here.
VardaValar1: Orcs weren't being very quiet in their attacks, but that's
a valid point.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Merry always was the smart one of the two :-)
VardaValar1: Maybe of those three? :-)
VardaValar1: Pippin was quite young.
VardaValar1: He was learning a lot about how to be a good Thane
from that journey.
VardaValar1: It's about time for Eonwe to have to leave. Do we have any
more we'd like to add?
Ar-Pharazon-V: I am trying to see if I can throw in more than my
"humorous" commentary so far...
VardaValar1: Humorous commentary is good too. :-)
Arien V: the word "hero* is always relative .. it usually does involve
self sacrifice , bravery and mostly a rescue of some sort . to whatever
end for the "hero" him- or herself
VardaValar1: Some kind of rescue tends to be involved, often risky for
the hero to do. Aye.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Lot of definitions of "hero" and "heroic" around, but
it's rarely something the heroes can apply to themselves.
Arien V: it would be quite interesting to find out whether we have an
"antehero" in Lord of the Rings as well :)
VardaValar1: Would that be Gollum?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Gollum had potential, yes. But didn't quite make it.
VardaValar1: Where did he miss?
Arien V: .. a comic tragfic figure that deserves somehow the pity of
the reader .. yes i would think so
Eonwe Valar: Does it still count as heroic when it's the 78th time
rescusing the same person from the same villian? I think at this point
Mario, Peach, and Koopa just have a schedule at this point, and all
these games are just his commute because Koopa can't fit more than two
people into his flying clowncopter.
Eonwe Valar: *rescuing
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ultimately he was a hindrance to the victory (well, he
made it happen, but it wasn't his intention) while antiheroes tend to
actually come through at the end, in my experience.
VardaValar1: On purpose?
Ar-Pharazon-V: I think so?
VardaValar1: Looking up anti-hero out of curiosity.
VardaValar1: Wikipedia: An antihero, or antiheroine, is a protagonist
who lacks conventional heroic qualities such as idealism, courage, or
morality. These characters are usually considered "conspicuously
contrary to an archetypal hero".
Arien V: because they somehow manage to fulfill heroic deeds despite
VardaValar1: for fun:
Arien V: example in games of Throne for example is the Imp .. i forgot
his right name sorry but he is just how you d think of an ante - hero :)
VardaValar1: Traditionally, in literary analysis, the meaning of
antihero was effectively the opposite of the now common usage, lacking
the elements that make a hero "cool" rather than the elements that make
them "good". Willy Loman and Shinji Ikari are archetypes of this form.
Ar-Pharazon-V: No. Tyrion. Tirion's the Warcraft paladin.
Arien V: Tyrion Lannister aye
Ar-Pharazon-V: looking at LotR examples for anti-hero, it does mention
Gollum *before* slipping back. So that's something.
Ar-Pharazon-V: It also mentions Frodo in Return of the King, and Turin
in the Silmarillion, both of whom I can kinda agree with.
VardaValar1: How would you characterize Frodo as an anti-hero?
VardaValar1: TV Tropes, a dangerous site. Slurps us right in.
VardaValar1: Usually amoral misfit for anti-hero. Not just that though.
Ar-Pharazon-V: While his actions and ideals are heroic, many of his
characteristics are not, especialy near the end. He "fails" at the end
of his quest, succeeds only with Gollum's intervention, and remains
scarred and passive for the rest of the story.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Morally, he's heroic. Otherwise, it's not what you'd
expect from a hero.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Which is basically antihero.
VardaValar1: Nice summation.
Ar-Pharazon-V: *grin* summation of the tv trope entry, but in a way
that I can see it and agree with it :-)
VardaValar1: a central character in a story, movie, or drama who lacks
conventional heroic attributes.
Ar-Pharazon-V: There you go. It doesn't always have to be the same
VardaValar1: One that Sauron can't see coming? :-)
VardaValar1: Merriam-Webster: a protagonist or notable figure who is
conspicuously lacking in heroic qualities
VardaValar1: You may have been here?:
Ar-Pharazon-V: That definitely sums up the hobbits in the eyes of the
Ar-Pharazon-V: I had not. Like I said, I got it from the tropes.
VardaValar1: So Tolkien showed us the trope of hero with Aragorn, and
then with the other hand sent in hobbits.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Very clever.
VardaValar1: pardon. You did say that.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Send in the hero as a decoy, slip the antihero in on the
VardaValar1: Now there's a story. :-)
VardaValar1: Raptor tactics. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Clever girl? :}
VardaValar1: that one, aye.
Eonwe Valar: (Jurassic Park reference if you don't get it)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ah, I was wondering what that referred to.
VardaValar1: Jurassis Park velociraptors.
VardaValar1: Actually, the LotR version of the velociraptors were
hobbits, is what I meant.
VardaValar1: at least to Sauron.
VardaValar1: but that's a stretch.
VardaValar1: Shall we switch to After-meeting?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Wouldn't Aragorn and Frodo both be velociraptors then?
VardaValar1: Aragorn as the one in front, aye.
VardaValar1: *reaches for a hammer drifting above the shelf-s conveyor
VardaValar1: *it cheerfully flies along in-hand, although too big to
move so easily*
Arien V: uh .. shiny
VardaValar1: *dust flies up from all around and is drawn into the
hammer, leaving everything tidy*
VardaValar1: *returns hammer to the shelf where it continues vacuuming
on its way out*
Ar-Pharazon-V: Interesting hammer you've got there. Would like one for
my own home.
VardaValar1: Feel free to catch it!!
Eonwe Valar: I need to call it here, but I have a link for you all
before I go, something that ened up in my Youtube suggested cntent...
Arien V: oh a vaccuming hammer .. lovely :)
Eonwe Valar: *content.
Eonwe Valar: Enjoy :} : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuUkLbOAWcU
Arien V: have a good night
VardaValar1: Children of Hurin
Arien V: Namarie!
Eonwe Valar: Take care all, good night, sleep well, and have fun :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Is that a Christopher Lee audiobook? :-)
Eonwe Valar: Apparently :} The funny part: I had just cleared out
all my browser cookies, so it's not like it knew to suggst this based
on previous viewings or anything.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, off I go :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: So many names dropped in the first few minutes. If I was
not already acquainted with all the different houses of Beleriand, I'd
have forgotten most of them already.
VardaValar1: That's a problem, aye.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Right, let's throw in some personal gaming!
VardaValar1: They still track us, Precious.
Ar-Pharazon-V: 3 flashgames!
is the first. Simple gameplay, left and right, make your way through
obstacles and get as far as you can. Temporary upgrades can be
acquired, as well as extra points.
is the second, tough golf-like game where you swing a comet from one
planet's orbit to the next, see how far you can get. Money accumulates
between games, and you can use that to purchase temporary upgrades like
slowing down the game or shrinking planets.
Ar-Pharazon-V: now, for the third one... if I got into a habit of
linking idle/clicker games, I could go on forever, but I've been
for a while this week (well, "playing") just because I like the upgrade
system. So yeah, if you're really bored, go for it ;-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: And once you've got a bit of sidekick-dps and
xp-harvesting going on, you can leave it on idle as well!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Blizzard gaming!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Diablo 3:
Season not started yet. Probably should poke it so that my mail doesn't
get lost, but I think I've got a few more weeks.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well, season's started, but I haven't ;-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Heroes of the Storm:
Interesting new brawl this week. Match full of Azmodans playing
basketball, with a few set talents.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I'd never played Azmodan before, though I did get the
hang of the matches after a while. Still, won neither of the 2. But
playing them was enough to get portrait and gold.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Otherwise, still leveling a bit. 2.0 looks interesting,
I'm sure I'll end up leveling all my heroes to 15 instead of 10.
Brawl this week was based on a similar celebrative theme as last
week's. But rather than decorate Stormwind, you and the opponent have
to work together to stack up celebrations, clear out party-crashers on
both sides, and finally smack down the pinata boss. It's quite fun, but
you do have to play decently to get to the end, and keep each other
Ar-Pharazon-V: I've gotten one more wing done in Karazhan, doubt I'll
finish that and the class challenges before Un'goro hits, but it
doesn't really matter. I did, with the end of the year in sight, buy a
ton of packs from the Grand Tournament (which is going to be
unavailable soon) and Old Gods, with about 10000 gold I'd saved.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Got about 3500 left for Un'goro, I think.
Arien V: grats :)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Thanks :-)
Lenwe (-V): How long are the special packs allowed in tournaments?
Ar-Pharazon-V: The Grand Tournament is not a feature, but the name of
an expansion which is being "retired" when the new Hearthstone year
starts in a few days. You can still craft the cards, but no longer buy
the packs, and they won't be allowed in Standard decks.
Lenwe (-V): I started buying C'Thun packs but realized they won't be
allowed in tournaments forever
Ar-Pharazon-V: I think C'thun packs will be retired about a year from
Lenwe (-V): LenwÃ« and Marigold send their greetings, by
Lenwe (-V): Ok, I guess I should stick to standard packs
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ehh, current expansions are still good for a year or two
after release. And there will come a time when your Standard collection
is pretty much complete :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Also, I play in Wild for my normal matches, and only use
standard decks for specific quests because of the way they show up in
deck order, so like.. battlecries, certain amount of mana, taunt cards,
Ar-Pharazon-V: So I can use all the expansions anyway.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well now, let's see...
Ar-Pharazon-V: Poked the 7.2 content a little bit. I was hoping to not
have to until I'd completed some previous quests, but it's quite vital,
especially when raiding, that Artifact Knowledge is kept somewhat up to
date, so I had to unlock the next chapter of that, which required a few
Broken Shore quests.
Ar-Pharazon-V: But, even when it's a bit story-breaking for me, the
scenario was still a lot of fun.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I haven't empowered my artifacts yet, which require a
few more quests, but I hope to get that done soon; at least before I
max out the 20-point traits which will go faster and faster as my
Knowledge builds up.
Ar-Pharazon-V: After that, I can go back to Suramar.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Raiding: More heroic bosses fought, defeated Tichondrius
for the first time. That just leaves Elisande and Gul'dan.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Got myself some new tier shoulders from that fight, whee.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Still keeping up with doing any new World Quests (not
counting Broken Shore, which I'm still ignoring as much as I can get
away with), which included one more unlocked pet master in Suramar who
I've seen twice in the last week. Should help a bit more with the
Family Familiar achievement.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Also found a bit of a guide for the new Pet Dungeon, and
as it turns out I have pretty much all the pets maxed out that are
required, though I think I'll not bother until I finish Familiar.
Arien V: all right
Arien V: nice one
Ar-Pharazon-V: Did a bit more of Suramar earlier in the week, working
on a few quests to get a friend of the rebellion elected as an advisor,
though it's slow going with so much other stuff going.
Ar-Pharazon-V: What else... yes, 2 new pets. Got the Magma Rageling
from Ulduar on monday, which leaves just the sanctum cub from that
place. One of the friends I go with is also almost done with getting
his legendary Valanyr from Ulduar, so after that we can skip a lot of
optional bosses and pretty much only kill what we need to get to
Auriaya, since, indeed, sanctum cubs is all we are missing.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Second new pet came from Dalaran; I'd gathered another
200 pet charms and got myself a Fel Piglet.
Arien V: :)
Ar-Pharazon-V: 500 charms to go for the remaining pets :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Very cute, that piglet, though looking a bit green!
Arien V: nice:) oh btw i ordrered a T-Shirt from the blizz store in the
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ooh, nice!
Arien V: wonder how long its going to take alas
VardaValar1: (LotRO Spring Festival extended to April 9)
Arien V: womans t-shirt with Horde symblols ^^
Arien V: really looks cool
Ar-Pharazon-V: Pff, horde ;-)
Arien V: if the alliance one looked a bit more colorful i might have
chosen that :P
Arien V: just grey ...
Ar-Pharazon-V: Oh, and finally I'll say that I've gotten a bit more
progress in appearance hunting, clearing heroic Auchenai Crypts and
normal Sethekk Halls. Sethekk Halls is a bit weird in that all the
normal stuff can drop on heroic too, judging by the loot tables, which
means I'm only missing 3 new items from heroic itself. Should be
Ar-Pharazon-V: I also checked out the new list of sets in the
appearance tab, and it'll be very useful for keeping track of pieces
from various difficulties of the same raid.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Looks like the Karazhan set is next for me :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: And that's my report for the week!
VardaValar1: Thank you, Phar.
Arien V: Thanks Phar
Arien V: And .. bed time for me i think :)
VardaValar1: Sleep well!
VardaValar1: LotRO time for me
Arien V: Namarie for now *yawns*
Ar-Pharazon-V: Heroes of the Storm
time for me. The buddy I usually play with went to bed already, but I
can pug a few ;-)
Arien V: have fun :) and say aiya to the gang from me
Ar-Pharazon-V: He knows I'm always late when it's meeting day!
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