October 2, 2016 Sunday Meeting
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AIM: Valar Guild Meetingplace
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Transcript work by Ar-Pharazon and Varda.
AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar (presiding)
The traditional AIM marathon of keeping the chat
room begins now, ending Oct 9. The Anniversary is Oct 4
between those two meetings.
19th Anniversary upcoming and what we can do.
Story: "Pet" by Little Jewel-(T)
Games Site: updated (see Gaming)
Topic: In a few sentences, why did you choose your
guild name? Can include
previous names as well if you want, but current name at least.
Flashgaming Reviews by
Ar-Pharazon-V (ArPharazonV) has entered the room.
Arien V (AriehnV) has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar (Eonwe Valar) has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya :}
Eonwe Valar: How goes it?
Arien V: Aiya Eonwe and Phar :-D
Arien V: goes fine enough , tired though since i was working early this
Eonwe Valar: Ah. Well glad you could make it :}
Eonwe Valar: One moment and we'll begin.
Eonwe Valar: OK, here we go!
Eonwe Valar: Elen
Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: The Anniversary is this Tuesday. Happy
Ar-Pharazon-V: Hurray, happy anniversary!
Eonwe Valar: 19 years old :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: That means my anniversary is coming up too, at... 13
Eonwe Valar: You joined in 2002 I think?
Eonwe Valar: Membership pages says 2003.
Ar-Pharazon-V: That would place me in high school, so.. yeah. 2003 it
Eonwe Valar: So 13 years sounds about right.
Ar-Pharazon-V: First year of university.
Eonwe Valar: Happy Anniversary to you as well then :}
Eonwe Valar: Thank both you and Arien for coming to meetings so
Ar-Pharazon-V: I'm just glad the chatroom's no longer bugging me ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Varda is out of town this week, but says you can still
send in stuff for the Anniversary.
Eonwe Valar: Hehe :}
Eonwe Valar: I hope I didn't miss inviting anyone in. I invited
everyone in my list that was one, and besides we three, that's Gilraen,
Gwaihir, and Farmer Maggot, all of which seem to be busy.
Eonwe Valar: *that was on
Ar-Pharazon-V: I've got Elladan here, will invite.
scott92027 has been invited.
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Also got Galdor and Meneldil, but they've got blue signs
instead of green, not sure what that means...
Eonwe Valar: I think it indicates they can't accept invites, but I
forget off the top of my head.
Eonwe Valar: Don't forget the Chat Marathon starts tonight as well :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: And that would be the main reason I'm glad chatrooms
aren't bugging me anymore, I can join on my own now ;-)
Eonwe Valar: I'll need to turn off my computer after the meeting to let
it get some rest, but I'll try to be back in for a few hours later in
the night to cover it for a while.
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Web:
Eonwe Valar: Right from the News Page: Tolkien Site / Stories:
"Pet". Little Legolas brings home
a pet. Why? New story by Little Jewel-(T).
Ar-Pharazon-V: "It's not just a squirrel... it's a flying squirrel!"
*tosses in the air*
Ar-Pharazon-V: Eh, obscure reference there.
Arien V: 19 years?? that is another "Big one" next year =-O
Eonwe Valar: Also from the News Page, on Anniversary celebrations:
Eonwe Valar: October 4 will be the 19th Anniversary of the Valar Guild.
Congratulations to you all for making this possible!
Eonwe Valar: The theme for this year ("more actual guidelines,
really"), is what brings contentment or even joy to a particular
character or race as shown by a character, which can use original
characters as well as Tolkien's. These can be solo, contrasting, or
parallel. An example might be a comparison of Eomer and Ugluk ending
with their fight, or Smaug contentedly snuggling down in his bed of
Eonwe Valar: For the Tolkien Site, these can be articles, stories, art,
poetry, or even language illustrations. The theme is not required, just
something to help give ideas in front of a blank screen staring back at
you. Please email contributions to Varda and mark that they are
intended for the Anniversary. Please have them in before the end of
October for this event, although being later will not prevent
Eonwe Valar: For gaming, we intend to have solo and group fireworks in
towns or randomly in groups, with a cheer for the 19th Anniversay of
the Valar Guild. Lines of mounts coming into towns or planets are fun,
such as a line of flying mounts in WoW or horses in LotRO. Coordinated
feather hats or gold and white coloring or all green for a group could
be a bit of added fun. In LotRO, fireworks have been provided in the
kin chest for any kinmate's use on the Anniversary.
Eonwe Valar: For the AIM group, (my note: that's us :}) please feel
free to indulge in the tradition of keeping the chat room open from the
Sunday meeting before the Anniversary to the meeting after.
Eonwe Valar: Feel free to email a report of what you or you and your
buddies did for the Anniversary in your game(s) of choice to be added
to the Anniversary page, with your gaming name for credit. (I don't
always recognize folks just from the email, sorry.) Show off your game!
If it shows happiness or contentment of a Tolkien-style character,
kudos! *troll snores happily under the bridge*.
Eonwe Valar: Varda should be back in town, possibly late in the day, on
Oct 4, possibly shoving other spaceships out of the way to make it.
Please jump in anyway and email your report (maybe even screenies) for
the Anniversary page.
Arien V: haha love that story
Arien V: i will be in tomorrow as soon as i can make ikt
Arien V: i ll be off tomorrow and Tuesday
Eonwe Valar: Cool :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: I should be able to get online for most of the afternoon
and evening tomorrow, tuesday's a bit trickier, wednesday's almost
Ar-Pharazon-V: Eh, we'll see.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, we can only do our best, and all members are welcome
to come in, help keep it up, chat, reminisce, get to know other
members, etc. :}
Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: GSMU:
Eonwe Valar: It's been completed. I'm in the process of putting
together the final report, but some highlights are as follows:
Eonwe Valar: Before the GSMU : 153 members playing 12 games
Eonwe Valar: After the GSMU: 155 members playing 17 games
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: 16 members responded, 22 more were gleaned from Guild
branches, for a total of 38 members with something listed on the Games
Eonwe Valar: Lord of the Rings Online is still by far our most active
game at 31 members, WoW a distant second at 10 members spread across
regions and servers.
Eonwe Valar: Steam has 4 members there.
Eonwe Valar: Eve Online has 4 members, Starcraft 2 has 5 members
playing, everything else 3 or fewer.
Eonwe Valar: At least, those that admit to playing. As always, any
member who wishes to update their gaming info is still welcome to send
it in, and hopefully find that there are other members that play the
same games they do.
Eonwe Valar: Thank you to everyone who responded to the e-mail :}
Eonwe Valar: Now on to gaming news:
Eonwe Valar: World of Warcraft:
Eonwe Valar: See what's going on This Month in WoW. LFR and Mythic difficulties are now available for
There's two new blogs out: Unleashed Monstrosities: A Look at World Bosses and Becoming a Legion Archaeologist: Can You Dig It?.
Blizzard has announced that they're not going to be
referring to Battle.net as Battle.net for reasons I'll let them explain
in this blog on the subject.
Check out this week's hotfixes.
Eonwe Valar: Diablo 3:
Eonwe Valar: Season 7 is ending soon. A new blog is
out: Developer Chronicles: Eras.
Eonwe Valar: Starcraft 2:
Eonwe Valar: A new preview blog is out: Patch 3.7 Preview: Separate MMR Per Race.
Eonwe Valar: Heroes of the Storm:
Eonwe Valar: A new patch came out this week. Check out
the patch notes.
Eonwe Valar: Hearthstone:
Eonwe Valar: Some balance updates are coming. Check
out the blog for more info.
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Met Fladrif in
Hearthstone this week, he had a daily quest to play against a
friend, so he chose me :-)
Eonwe Valar: Go ahead :}
Eonwe Valar: Cool :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: We poked the brawl a few times and both got 80g reward
Ar-Pharazon-V: So yay, guild action ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Indeed :}
Eonwe Valar: Anything else, or shall we transition to Tolkien?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Not until aftermeeting! :-)
Eonwe Valar: OK :}
[Note: LotRO kin member listing for the past
week in the After-meeting.]
Eonwe Valar: Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar: Are all three of us here?
Ar-Pharazon-V: I am! Even just left WoW for the day.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Level 107 now. Slow, but steady.
Arien V: hneh sort of
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :} I'm surprisingly not 110 yet either. Just
haven't had time.
Arien V: uhm got .. three at 110 .. how sad am i :O?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Same. Couple of local holidays, getting used to a work
routine, and this online ccg game on kongregate has some timed events
that are more time-consuming than I thought...
Eonwe Valar: Ok, I have a fairly easy Tolkien chat topic, which if you
two are willing to indulge in, I think fits the fact that it's the
Ar-Pharazon-V: Hmm. I'm sure there are people with 12, Arien :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe, Congrats Arien :}
Arien V: yeah the demon hunter made it to 110 too ^^
Arien V: the belfi one
Ar-Pharazon-V: To be fair, it had the least far to go!
Arien V: hehe I know ^^
Eonwe Valar: OK, Tolkien chat topic, should you choose to accept it:
Arien V: which topic is that?
Eonwe Valar: In a
few sentences, why did you choose your guild name? Can include
previous names as well if you want, but current name at least.
Eonwe Valar: What did you like about the character, that kind of thing.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Interesting question...
Ar-Pharazon-V: It's been 13 years ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Aye :}
Eonwe Valar: Did we want to take turns or just put it out there?
Ar-Pharazon-V: If I recall, I
decided to go for one of the "bad guys" because I figured most of the
good guys were taken (was considering Fingolfin at first) and I figured
they were easier to live up to :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: The Akallabeth always fascinated me, and Pharazon was in
many ways the pinnacle of human history in Tolkien's lore, even if it
came with corruption.
Ar-Pharazon-V: A tragic story too, redeemable in a way... not so much
evil but more of a product of his time and his family, and he did do
some great things.
Ar-Pharazon-V: So I guess I felt the character needed some sympathy?
Eonwe Valar: :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Actually, if I recall, I was rather more in to playing
bad guys back then.
Ar-Pharazon-V: They always just felt more powerful, mysterious,
interesting. Fun. I guess that's part of why I had what happened to
Calaron in our RP, happen.
Ar-Pharazon-V: That part's faded a bit over the years, but I think I've
done a decent job of carrying the name with me as I went nearer the
light side :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: There's ambiguity to Pharazon's fate, anyway, he might
as well choose the right side at the end of the world...
Eonwe Valar: It is interesting, if he will have the opportunity for a
choice, and if he will choose wisely.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I believe that in the end, he's always been loyal to
(most of) his people, and what he thought was best for them, even if he
fell to Sauron's persuasion in the end.
Ar-Pharazon-V: So yeah, I think that's my story :-)
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Phar :}
Arien V: Arien .. well basically it was a Maia name i needed at
the time and i was looking through the name list .. so really boring ..
i liked the name , but then as character . as pilot of the Sun carrying
vessel she is fascinating
Arien V: as helmsgirl so to say .. powerful but she is being chased as
well (by the moon and apparently was fancied by Sauron at a point very
Arien V: I wonder whether that is why she accepted that role .. i mean
she cared for Illuin so it was a logical choice to keep on caring for
that what remained of it
Arien V: but it kept her moving, occupied and safe from him ^^
Eonwe Valar: Iluin was one of the lamps. Did you mean Laurelin, the
Arien V: aye i meant that
Arien V: thanks Eonwe ^^
Arien V: i dont do names really .. *sigh*
Eonwe Valar: MP :}
Eonwe Valar: No worries. :}
Eonwe Valar: Is it my turn? :}
Eonwe Valar: (Don't want to interrupt :})
Arien V: uhm .. so she is fascinating to think of a fire spirit with
such a momentuos task but an entirely almost human background story
Arien V: with various would be lovers after her ^^
Arien V: Silpion and Sauron :-)
Arien V: anyway that is my story , not as fascinting and outformed as
Pharis , but something anyway :-)
Arien V: and something different after Finduilas as well ,... starting
off as Finduilas T
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Arien :} I don't remember the Sauron connection.
Now I have to take some time to look into that :}
Arien V: a fairly tragic character in the end
Ar-Pharazon-V: To be fair, my story kinda angled away into a defense of
the character in question, rather than my motivations for choosing him,
but I think I still got a bit of the point across ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Did you want to talk about your previous name as well,
Arien, or just stick with your current?
Eonwe Valar: Sounded like you were about to, so if you want to, you
can, but don't have to :}
Arien V: shortly
Arien V: Finduilas .. daughter of
Arien V: former lover of Saeron , if i remember right .. then Turin
fell in love with her but her father warned him of an entanglement with
him .She liked him nontheless, but as brother friend i think..
Turin ran away from Nargothrond it was I think and got entangled in a
lot of adventures. Finduilas got captured by the orcs and killed by
them .. we know Turin chased after her and well that is another
Arien V: Personality wise i like her .. loving caring, brave as well
.sad she had to die like that.
Arien V: That is it :-)
Arien V: oooh another name meddle up here#
Arien V: Gwindor she was betrothed to but he got captured
Ar-Pharazon-V: That didn't go well for him!
Eonwe Valar: Indeed.
Eonwe Valar: Lost a brother and a lover.
Eonwe Valar: OK, I'll keep mine brief.
Eonwe Valar: Way back,.. 17 years ago almost,... I chose Aragorn because he was a good, noble
man (and not just a nobleman, heh), line of kings, just, and the name
was available :}
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: When I became a Maia, there weren't any male Maia names
available, so we allowed constellations as well. We were more stringent
on changing the name to a Maia name back then, and some deliberation I
determined Valacirca was the
best option. I liked the lore behind it, being a symbol of Morgoth's
ultimate fall and of hope to the Free Peoples.
Eonwe Valar: When I became a
Vala, all the major Vala names (the ones from the Sil) were taken, so I
had a handful of options from a selection of those who were Valar in
the Histories, but either did not make it to the Silmarillion, or were
changed to be Maiar.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I wonder what the three Time-guys from the Book of Lost
Tales would fall under..
Eonwe Valar: I chose EonwÃ«, who was FionwÃ«,
son of ManwÃ« and Varda in the early tales. I liked the
connection in the old tales, as well as the his description as the best
Eonwe Valar: He was a fighter, and a guy committed to Good, faithfully
serving ManwÃ« as herald, taking on Morgoth himself in the
Eonwe Valar: I believe they were classified as "Valar" at the time.
Eonwe Valar: In reference to the "time-guys" question.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Too bad, they would've made an extra few Maiar names :-)
Eonwe Valar: hehe :}
Eonwe Valar: That's my reasoning :}
Ar-Pharazon-V: Fionwe destroys the world to destroy his foe...
Eonwe Valar: Yeah, sounded cooler back then, heh.
Eonwe Valar: Now I look at it and wonder if he did that because it was
the only way to stop him, if the world could've survived, or if the
world was already in such disrepair that no one was left but Morgoth
and the Valar anyway.
Eonwe Valar: Or if it's more that it happens in the fight. We saw
what happened when the Valar took the fight to Morgoth, and that's the
very reason they held back once the Eruhini arrived.
Eonwe Valar: One would imagine that if they were no longer holding
back, the Eruhini were already accounted for in some fashion.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I think I always interpreted it as the first one.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Can't truly take out Morgoth without taking the world
Eonwe Valar: It's a valid point, with as much as he's poured of his
power into it, making it, as the HoME aptly names it, "Morgoth's Ring"
Ar-Pharazon-V: Right :-)
Eonwe Valar: Anyway, I need to start getting ready to head off, so I
shall bang the gavel here for Aftermeeting, and let the chat marathon
Eonwe Valar: *Raises gavel into the air*
Arien V: *flares up ray on it *
Ar-Pharazon-V: *throws some gold at it*
Arien V: Fireworks =-O
Ar-Pharazon-V: I don't have your fancy powers ;-)
Eonwe Valar: *the gavel hits the podium, the sound resounding
throughout the channel* Let the Chat Marathon begin!
Arien V: noticed an npc in WoW in the hunter class hall btw called
"Moorgoth, Lord of Darkness .. i forgot and i dont have her logged on
atm ^^ ]
Eonwe Valar: And Aftermeeting, of course :}
Eonwe Valar: Hehehe.
Eonwe Valar: OK, I must be off. Don't forget to send Varda a copy of
the transcript with your Aftermeeting gaming, Phar :} I'll send her a
copy of everything up to this point.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Will do.
Eonwe Valar: Take care all :} I'll try to be in later tonight :} For
nw, my comuter needs rest :}
Arien V: have a good shiftg
Arien V: bye bye
Eonwe Valar: *for now, my computer
Eonwe Valar (Eonwe Valar) has left the room.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Namarie when you read this!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Perrrrsonal gaming time!
Ar-Pharazon-V: 3 shorter games for flashgaming this week, but fun!
is the first! Another point and click game from a commonly mentioned
series, wherein you play a jester ordered to make the queen laugh.. or
down the bottomless pit you go!
is the second game, a reaction and, ultimately, balancing game. Trick
is to catch the numbers falling down and add equal numbers together
until you end up with a 2048.
Ar-Pharazon-V: You can lose as many as you want over the edge of the
couch, and feel free to continue until you get it, but you're still
going to have a tough time getting all the way up there, because you'll
need to stack them up eventually :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Note, though, it can get a bit laggy as you go on, which
provides a bit more of an unintended challenge.
is the third game, third in a series of fun, simple puzzle games where
you have to find clues and logic your way through the room, in this
case getting all 20 sushi pieces.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Blizzard gaming!
Ar-Pharazon-V: I was hoping to have done more Diablo 3 this weekend, but hey, time
;-) Just wanting to get chapter 4 done before the season ends. Gotta
have that dark unicorn pet!
Did some of that, getting quite close to the next level for all
classes. Played against Fladrif for a few matches in tavern brawl, for
which I had a quest to win 5 as well.
Ar-Pharazon-V: This week's brawl: 2 robots facing each other, each with
a different mechanic and a bunch of pre-set cards to fit the theme and
abilities of each robot.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Heroes of the Storm:
2 of my heroes leveled to 8 this week! The stimpacks for the event have
Ar-Pharazon-V: Zagara and Nazeebo. I'm not sure I like what the patch
did to Nazeebo, might have to switch to a toad-based build from here on.
Ar-Pharazon-V: I'm definitely not going to be as effective with him as
I was before.
Ar-Pharazon-V: WoW: Level 107
Ar-Pharazon-V: Evergreen in my class hall paid off, got my first new
pet, the nightmare lasher.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Finished questing in Azsuna, now moved to Stormheim.
Should hit 110 before I finish it, at this rate.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Finishing Azsuna included doing my first Legion 5-man
instance, and getting the first of the 5 pillars.
Arien V: :-)
Arien V: from 107 to 110 doesnt take very long
Ar-Pharazon-V: Finished what I wanted to do with Brewfest, and
continued getting stuff from Blackrock Depths. I'm down to 2 items from
the same multi-loot encounter, though, so it's slow going, probably
going to take me a lot of tries.
Ar-Pharazon-V: But that will have to go on hiatus, I have been
requested to stop doing that stuff for a while in order to get to 110
faster, they want me ready to tank raids ;-)
Arien V: nice one
Arien V: a few guildies started doing mythics and lfrs ^^ but .. i am
not in much hurry for that and need to figure out dps techniques that
wont get me kicked of every group ;-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Well, that instance I mentioned was my first tanking in
Legion. Bit getting used to again after a month.
Ar-Pharazon-V: But fun to be bear :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: And I got the movie dvd
with some interesting goodies, though I haven't entered the codes yet
Arien V: nice one
Arien V: has it been released then?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Yep. Supposed to be some new scenes too. But just
haven't had the time yet, besides, I've got like 50 other movies on the
recorder waiting for me ;-)
Arien V: hehe where did you get it?
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ordered it online in a webshop where I get all my stuff
like that. Books, movies, games.
Ar-Pharazon-V: Except for a bit of a mishap with one of the Warcraft
books which turned out not to be available, it has not often let me
Ar-Pharazon-V: (even now, said book is still showing as available when
Ar-Pharazon-V: So yeah I think that's my news!
Arien V: very good
Arien V: well done
Arien V: good night and Namarie :-) i ll see u tomorrow
Arien V (AriehnV) has left the room.
Varda Valar (VardaValar1) has entered the room.
Varda Valar: Aiya Phar :-)
Varda Valar: Happy 19th Anniversary Marathon!
Ar-Pharazon-V: Goody, you're here, that means I can leave in a couple
of hours ;-)
Varda Valar: heh, yay? :-)
Varda Valar: Just got home. Did we have a meeting ok?
Ar-Pharazon-V: You missed Arien by just under 20 minutes.
Varda Valar: Huzzah!
Varda Valar: Got home two days early
Varda Valar: Thank you both so much!
Ar-Pharazon-V: So why are you home 2 days early? :-)
Varda Valar: Most of the family went hunting. Deer and hog
Ar-Pharazon-V: Bit sad, but good food, I guess?
Varda Valar: You bet :-)
Varda Valar: We went on to see Fangorn's dad at the nursing home, quite
a long way from the hunting party
Varda Valar: Did some deliveries for the family on the way home
Varda Valar: Cool that so many of the family could go hunting together.
Schedules don't usually allow so they grabbed the chance. We got to
hang out with them first and help with their very early breakfast. :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Indeed, it's always good to have family activities :-)
Varda Valar: We didn't have our gear. They would have loaned but gone
without some of their needed gear.
Varda Valar: We helped out with building on the log cabin too.
Varda Valar: It's coming along very well. :-)
Varda Valar: Hmm, nothing new for the Tolkien Site or Anniversary yet.
Varda Valar: Maybe the gamers will send in some screenies. :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Tough to think of something, things are a bit busy ;-)
Varda Valar: got our theme going. :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: No time for screenshots of me relaxing!
Ar-Pharazon-V: No time for relaxing.
Varda Valar: Stuff that makes a Tolkien character/race contented or
happy, like a troll snoozing under a bridge
Varda Valar: It's also what makes them happy
Ar-Pharazon-V: An elf snoozing on a couch.. might need to play a blood
elf for that.
Varda Valar: A dwarf may be happy swinging his axe, or an elf using his
Ar-Pharazon-V: A bear druid sleeping near a fire, like a Beorning.
Varda Valar: An elf climing a tree, or dwarf in a cave
Varda Valar: Aye :-)
Varda Valar: or going after honey or other fun stuff
Varda Valar: Doesn't have to be something sleepy
Ar-Pharazon-V: No honey in WoW, I think...
Ar-Pharazon-V: But it crossed my mind.
Varda Valar: Neat :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: Wish you could do some fishing in bearform, that'd be
Varda Valar: ohh, aye!
and that's just one of several ;-)
Varda Valar: Report for LotRO:
Varda Valar: Kin members showing in the last seven days:
Ar-Pharazon-V: Ah good, looking up I don't see LotRO mentioned in the
gaming news :-)
Varda Valar: Eonwe may figure I'm covering it enough under general News?
Varda Valar: If there's no new update or LotRO event, he won't have any
Ar-Pharazon-V: Oh, btw, that Heroes
of the Storm quest finally got changed to where all artifact
pieces picked up by the entire team, not just the single player, counts
towards your quest. So yay, should be easy enough to get now :-)
Varda Valar: Nice :-)
Ar-Pharazon-V: saving and sending transcript