Valar Guild

September 6, 2015 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC/GMT - 5)
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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (5)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Gilraen-(V)/Iryenth, Pallando Valar, Varda Valar (presiding)

Meeting begins
    Fladrif-(V) is moving.
    Tolkien Site/Art:
        The Bohemian Weasel-(T)'s art included in an exhibit.
         More art put up during the After-meeting (see below).
    Discussion topic:  Villains and potential pictures of them. "In honor of The Bohemian Weasel-(T)'s upcoming exhibition, which villains can we name from all over? Then, what kind of picture would be interesting to make of those?"
    More villainy
    More Gaming news from Varda, Arien, and Ar-Pharazon
    More art put online for Melkor, Sauron, and Arwen.

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Phar :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: aiya all
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
VardaValar1: Aiya Arien :-)
PallandoValar has entered the room.
AriehnV: aiya Pallando and Varda and Phara :-)
VardaValar1: Aiya Pallando :-)
Iryenth has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Pallando! And Gilraen!
VardaValar1: Aiya Gilraen :-)
Iryenth: Aiya

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: Hello from Bilbo, Fangorn, and Sauron from this side of the screen.
VardaValar1: Any other membership news?
ArPharazonV: Saw Fladrif.
ArPharazonV: Pointed him at LotRO.
VardaValar1: Yay!
VardaValar1: How is he?
ArPharazonV: Learned that he's coming back to Europe, to live in Germany.
ArPharazonV: So should be able to join meetings again!
ArPharazonV: Other than that, he seemed fine :-)
VardaValar1: No more New Zealand? I hope he took tons of pictures.
VardaValar1: May his move go well. :-)
ArPharazonV: I'm sure he did :-)

VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: Art:
VardaValar1: The Bohemian Weasel-(T) will be a participating artist in
VardaValar1: the  the "Evil in the Shining Light" Tolkien art exhibition at the "Opening Up the Book" festival in Sheffield September 2 - 26.
VardaValar1: Here's her name on the list:
ArPharazonV: Congrats!
VardaValar1: Her entry to match that subject is "The Seduction of Sauron" by Melkor to evil. [Note: link added later.]
ArPharazonV: Sounds intriguing.
AriehnV: grattts indeed
VardaValar1: I was trying to put up several images including some pre-sketch ideas of what Morgoth would look like, not done yet, sorry. [Note: Here's the Melkor page put up after the meeting.]
VardaValar1: But I hope to have them up soon.

VardaValar1: Eonwe, for the Games Site, said in an email:
VardaValar1: "GSMU mails are planned to go out this week, as usual."
VardaValar1: So let him know which games you are playing so far this year. Email is always the best way as it is easiest to work with while coding.
VardaValar1: Feel free to send reviews to him of your favorite games. Surprisingly, some of our main games don't have our reviews. Feel free to remind people about your favorite.
VardaValar1: Any other web news?

VardaValar1: Gaming:
VardaValar1: WoW:
VardaValar1: Patch 6.2.2 is out. If you have the Pathfinder achievement, you're good for flying. There's also a mercenary mode to help reduce battleground queues... if you don't mind fighting for the opposite faction.
VardaValar1: It's the end of Summer and Blizzard knows it, so they give you some suggestions on stuff to do in their end of summer blog.
VardaValar1: And of course, there's more hotfixes.

VardaValar1: LotRO:
VardaValar1: (from me, not Eonwe)
VardaValar1: Farmer's Faire is going.
VardaValar1: Bingo Boffin's new quests come up every Wednesday. You can start from the beginning in Michel Delving.
ArPharazonV: Wow, I'd totally forgotten about the log ride.
VardaValar1: The gang is doing two and three man runs and crafting, plus 6 and 12 mans with allies and friends.
VardaValar1: Enjoy, Phar :-)
ArPharazonV: Heh, I might do that, yes ;-)

VardaValar1: StarCraft/BroodWar:
VardaValar1: Fangorn, Sauron, and Varda still play that together. Never seem to tire of it.

VardaValar1: StarCraft 2 (back to Eonwe's reports):
VardaValar1: New Legacy of the Void Balance Update. See it.
VardaValar1: Blizzard's revealing the Legacy of the Void Cinematic on September 13th. Check out their announcement for more info.

VardaValar1: Heroes of the Storm:
VardaValar1: Read up on the changes to Hero League party sizes.
VardaValar1: Blizzard announced on the Heroes of the Storm forum that the Eternal Conflict Promotions are ending September 8th, so if you still need 50 Treasure Goblins and care about completing it, you need to hurry. Read the announcement for more details.
ArPharazonV: Got my last 4 goblins today \o/
VardaValar1: Grats :-)
VardaValar1: Sauron has been busy in his off time helping put up the fence. We think we'll be done this evening or tomorrow.

AriehnV: oh concerning Lotro ...
VardaValar1: Then he should be able to game more again. :-)
VardaValar1: Arien, go ahead
AriehnV: I managed to get the game finally reinstalled via steam after the humpdieth try ^
AriehnV: .... whats the bloodelf motto ... "we will persevere" or so :_)
VardaValar1: Yay Steam!
VardaValar1: More Sunwell? ;-)
AriehnV: And Varda helped my wee warden with a dastardly mob as well
AriehnV: an undead
VardaValar1: It was interesting as they had changed the placement and added new quests to that area. Glad to go back and see that.
VardaValar1: Olnathron, Barrow-wight boss in the Fornost area.
VardaValar1: Unusually, female.
AriehnV: got that one and the hunter to thirty .. the burglar is 83 :-) and started a new hobbit minstrel (who needs an invite into the kin ) in swap for 2 elves since i had so many (Note: Done during the meeting)
AriehnV: so basicallly having fun levelling all way round and doing some crafting as wel
AriehnV: changed the vocation of Franli to Armsman since that makes more sense for him
AriehnV: and caught him up on that so he can wear what he makes in the quest area
AriehnV: thats me |:-)
AriehnV: And seeing some of the changes
AriehnV: thats my report there
VardaValar1: Thank you, Arien. :-)
VardaValar1: Would you like me to pop into LotRO and give you that invite? Also, Gorlim can do that for you.
VardaValar1: I can pull it up, no problem.
AriehnV: yups will do in a bit still halfways through a daily in tanaan so once that is done i wil log in :0
AriehnV: our internett is a bit ropy#
VardaValar1: ouch
VardaValar1: Ok, in a bit then. Just let me know.
VardaValar1: Any other general gaming news? Eve? Other?

ArPharazonV: Hearthstone: new season started
ArPharazonV: With a rather pink card back this time!
ArPharazonV: And that's all I've got :-)
VardaValar1: No Pink Panther I assume. :-)
VardaValar1: Thanks!

AriehnV: Eve online here
VardaValar1: Cool. Fire away
ArPharazonV: I can get a link if you want.
ArPharazonV: enjoy!
AriehnV: my corp is quite active with mining ops and getting constantly wardecked so we have to be quite cautios
AriehnV: now it has happened bruces morc corp wardecked mine and we are not happy about it but we ll find a way round getting involved too much
VardaValar1: Oops
AriehnV: Sauron i see occasionally and we chat sometimes :-)
VardaValar1: Or aim straight at each other, heh
AriehnV: but Pallandor has too different time zones
AriehnV: thats it for me on Eve :-)
VardaValar1: Thanks, Sunshine. :-)
VardaValar1: Any other business, suggestions, comments, wish lists?

VardaValar1: Tolkien:
VardaValar1: In honor of The Bohemian Weasel-(T)'s upcoming exhibition, which villains can we name from all over? Then, what kind of picture would be interesting to make of those?
VardaValar1: Bill Ferny!
VardaValar1: (Pic of him trying to duck Sam's apple)
VardaValar1: Any book is fair game.
ArPharazonV: Morgoth fighting Fingolfin, but we've seen that.. trolls discussing dinner as they get turned to stone, but seen that too...
VardaValar1: Go ahead and fire off a villain name.
ArPharazonV: let me think!
ArPharazonV: Okay, Saruman
VardaValar1: Ok, so what would be a different picture for the ones we've seen?
VardaValar1: A shocked faced troll looking up at Gandalf as the sun comes through.
VardaValar1: Morgoth after the fight with Fingolfin, maybe as Thorondor claws him contesting the body, or just bandaging his foot muttering "Elves!"
ArPharazonV: Those would work :-)
VardaValar1: Saruman trying to figure out how to work that pipe?
VardaValar1: Anyone can fire off a villain name and we can try to come up with picture image ideas. :-)
VardaValar1: O now, we can all come up with a villain or two. They don't have to be major.
ArPharazonV: Eol?
VardaValar1: Eol, working on his swords or finding the meteor.
Iryenth: Smaug?
VardaValar1: Ohh, lots of good shots of Smaug. Peeking out of the treasure, riddling with Bilbo, flying out of Erebor, flaming the place, or just under the water after being shot down with gems sparkling.
VardaValar1: Maybe I should be quiet a bit and let other folks come up with picture ideas. :-)
VardaValar1: Gollum
ArPharazonV: Maybe just Smaug gathering up his gold and making a nice bed out of them...
VardaValar1: Aye, just luxuriating in the gold. Looking at a piece, trying to put on a crown or necklace chain.
ArPharazonV: I'd like to see a picture of Gollum in his old home, sneaking around, doing something to upset his family by being invisible.
Iryenth: that would be a good one
Iryenth: And creeping through the shadows after the Fellowship, perhaps
VardaValar1: Aye, being Sneaker. :-)
VardaValar1: Slinker
VardaValar1: Sauron
ArPharazonV: Sauron confronted by Eonwe at the end of the War of Wrath.
VardaValar1: ohhh
AriehnV: get The Bohemian Weasel on that Phara :-)
VardaValar1: We can switch to After-meeting since folks seem to be mostly away. And keep on with the game at odd moments. Some nice image ideas so far!
AriehnV: sounds like a project for her
VardaValar1: *pounds the gavel on a coaster*
VardaValar1: *Should have moved the glass first. Oops.*

VardaValar1: After-meeting:
ArPharazonV: *brushes away the shards*
VardaValar1: *Tidies up glass* Hey, thanks! :-)
VardaValar1: Some of the twinkling in the sky might not be shining ships. *cough*
VardaValar1: We can also name semi-villains, such as Feanor.
AriehnV: Turin .. villain or tragic hero? he has done many brave deeds in defeat of Sauron and Morgoth
ArPharazonV: Chipping away at the palantiri, or however he made them.
VardaValar1: Trying to pour light into a gem and seal it before it escapes.
VardaValar1: Mirrors maybe.
VardaValar1: Aye, some characters made terrific blunders, could even be comedic images.
AriehnV: he killed his best friend by accident
ArPharazonV: That doesn't sound very comedic :-)
VardaValar1: That would be a tragic picture, very little color probably.
VardaValar1: Melkor pulling out his hair trying to make Hurin give up.
ArPharazonV: hehe
ArPharazonV: Just staring at him in disbelief.
AriehnV: yes that s a comic picture
ArPharazonV: Facepalming.
VardaValar1: These ideas certainly don't have to be comic, but some can be. :-)
VardaValar1: How about some more villains?
ArPharazonV: Glaurung lumbering through the forest, getting stuck between some trees, frustratedly trying to get loose.
VardaValar1: Size problems!
VardaValar1: The Mouth of Sauron trying to use a straw.
ArPharazonV: He was like a huge fat snake on legs. I'm sure he could get into some trouble while travelling around.
ArPharazonV: Haha.
AriehnV: uhm .... how about Grima trying to persuade a horse to carry him?
AriehnV: (we know he found a nag but not the best one
VardaValar1: Keeps backing away when he tries to mount. "Are you sure you're Rohirric?"
ArPharazonV: Some corsairs, after diving off their ships, watching them sail away with Gondorians on them.
AriehnV: *grins* sensible horses
VardaValar1: "They could at least have provided a plank."
ArPharazonV: "Right, folks, it's a long way home, so let's start swimming."

VardaValar1: (Aside for LotRO: Hobnangians is going.)
VardaValar1: Arien just put a minstrel in Valar Guild in LotRO. Welcome!
ArPharazonV: Yay!
AriehnV: thanks you :-)
AriehnV: a hobbit
AriehnV: a Fallowhide i think#
VardaValar1: That will show up under your titles on your character sheet.
AriehnV: yep it is a Fallohide
ArPharazonV: I bet they make the best minstrels.
AriehnV: And my wold consolidation tiltle for her is "of Crickhollow"
VardaValar1: She was moved from Crickhollow?
AriehnV: no we i got the title .. or choice of titles from Turbine
VardaValar1: Not sure how all of my little TP gatherers could ever make it to Landroval. Think Audhild will show up though, just so much fun. Dwarven rk
VardaValar1: Yes, the choices were meant to show which server you came from. They didn't rig it for just the server your character was on to make the coding faster.
AriehnV: ah well its a nice thing though that its general :-)
VardaValar1: Ok - we can pop up with villain names and imagine pictures for them at random during this after-meeting.
VardaValar1: Phar, feel free to do your report before you fall asleep.

VardaValar1: (Ugluk)

ArPharazonV: Right, let's see.
ArPharazonV: simple-ish strategy game where you have to spawn units and overwhelm the other bases in the level before the enemy does, wrapped in a story about angels and demons, but that doesn't matter much.
ArPharazonV: That's for flashgaming, by the way :-)
ArPharazonV: And I'll give which is not right for the of year, but it was one of the badges of the day for this week and I hadn't done it yet
ArPharazonV: Take the balls from the christmas tree and use the right tools to give them the exact appearance required in each level.
VardaValar1: Help you think cool on an August day.
ArPharazonV: I like this series, it requires some thought but isn't too frustrating :-)

ArPharazonV: Blizzard games!
ArPharazonV: Like I said, got my last 4 goblins for the 50 treasure goblin quest this afternoon; in fact, I got like 20 in the past 48 hours. Really pushed myself to get it done before the event was over.
ArPharazonV: Reward: New portrait!
ArPharazonV: Also got new portraits for getting some of my favorite heroes to level 9, including Abathur and Valla.
ArPharazonV: *sigh* I keep forgetting to mention the game involved. This is all Heroes of the Storm!
ArPharazonV: And also in Heroes of the Storm I bought the new Treasure Goblin Mount for 20k gold. Is only temporarily available for purchase, and I had a bit of a stockpile, so I thought, why not?
ArPharazonV: And the red version looks pretty good with Valla the Demon Hunter :-)

ArPharazonV: Diablo 3: Got my seasonal wizard to level 20 today! Also finished most of Season Journey chapter 1, except the last step which requires getting to 35. But that's just a matter of getting xp!

ArPharazonV: Hearthstone: Used the gold I saved to buy a whole bunch of packs for the new expansion. Got a bunch of good cards, as well as 2 legendaries, though they're not particularly good ones. Still, legendary!

ArPharazonV: WoW: Bought a new pet and 2 mounts from my garrison, and doing well on the legendary naval missions. Only one to go!
ArPharazonV: Killed Archimonde on LFR for the first time, finally completing a weekly quest I'd kept for over a month ;-)
VardaValar1: Grats!
ArPharazonV: We're getting pretty close to getting him down on normal difficulty, too. Best attempt today: 9%.
ArPharazonV: And I got my music rolls from Kel'thuzad and Blackhand this week, leaving only Illidan for the full achievement. Hopefully I'll be lucky with him next time too!
AriehnV: grats grats
ArPharazonV: Otherwise, just doing my thing. I added one thing to my daily routine, which is visiting the 3 rare mobs in the Highmaul area, who they inserted in this patch.
ArPharazonV: They can drop pets and they'll also a lot of garrison resources, so it's beneficial to kill them once a day.
VardaValar1: Variety, and more time sinks. Reminds me, need to do mine soon.
AriehnV: and i got in my flying quest down to the treasure hunter thing and the reputations
ArPharazonV: Yes, time sinks :-) So many time sinks every day.
ArPharazonV: Yes, I still need those two as well, Arien. But they'll be quite a bit away before I'll get around to them.
AriehnV: and err what else yeah grinding Apexis shards for the legendary runes
AriehnV: thats why I am doing the dailies in Tanaan
AriehnV: in addition to the reps
ArPharazonV: Very useful.
AriehnV: down to about 130 runes left
ArPharazonV: I'm at the 33 tomes now, need 17 more.
AriehnV: with a bit of luck i hope i ll get there the coming week after the reset
ArPharazonV: And the sea chart, but that should come with the next legendary naval mission.
ArPharazonV: I'm hoping to get that all done in about two and a half weeks, and then I'll have my legendary ring!
VardaValar1: The One Ring or the Two Ring?
AriehnV: The Three Ring!
ArPharazonV: Well, I'm going for two versions ;-)
VardaValar1: Don't reckon he might be talking about some other Ring?
VardaValar1: Ring of Barahir!
AriehnV: Aragorn had that didnt he>?
VardaValar1: Yes
ArPharazonV: That one was pretty legendary.
ArPharazonV: Well, this was my gaming news!
VardaValar1: Thanks, Golden One. :-)

ArPharazonV: Now I'll go do my 10 minutes of daily fishing :-)
VardaValar1: Hmm, I should probably go fishing at Dol Amroth.
ArPharazonV: Hmm, no lunarfall carps caught today. Oh well.
VardaValar1: Overfished? Bait stealing by perch?
ArPharazonV: Just luck :P
VardaValar1: Evil RNG!
ArPharazonV: That's the one.
VardaValar1: afk

ArPharazonV: Oh, I'll note that I found an interestingly useful WoW addon this week.
VardaValar1: Sounds good
ArPharazonV: It automatically checks the groupfinder every 30 seconds (but you can change the interval) for any keyword that you put in, to see if it's in the title.
ArPharazonV: Very good if you're after a specific worldboss, or invasion or something.
ArPharazonV: Been using it to check for a group for the last garrison boss I lack, but no luck yet. It works though, I've been notified of the other bosses, depending on what keyword I fill in :-)
ArPharazonV: I'll have a much better chance of getting it done now!
ArPharazonV: is the addon
ArPharazonV: Aaand I just got the last legendary naval mission finished :-) It was only 78% chance of success because I didn't have the right ship type, but I thought I'd give it a go; if I lost a ship, it would've meant me having room to build the right one.
AriehnV: grats :-)_
ArPharazonV: But I threw some Mission Completion Orders I'd gotten from the mage tower at it to get it done right away instead of having to wait a day... and it succeeded!
ArPharazonV: Thanks :-)

AriehnV has left the room.
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: am i back?
AriehnV: internet slipped again
ArPharazonV: You're back.
VardaValar1: You're back
ArPharazonV: Aiyata :-)
AriehnV: han tal
AriehnV: as i say .. the connection tonight is quite ropy
ArPharazonV: ropy as in.. frayed?
AriehnV: yeah somewhat disrupted .. not very good
AriehnV: several dcs tonight
AriehnV: good night to you all and good fishing! have fun and fly safe!
AriehnV: and fish safe ^^
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
AriehnV has left the room.

VardaValar1: Ok, new page up.
VardaValar1: Aww missed Arien
VardaValar1: Art for Melkor/Morgoth by the Bohemian Weasel-(T)
ArPharazonV: Melkor has nice hair in that one.
VardaValar1: Hey, why not? :-)
VardaValar1: I put the page up a bit fast, still tweaking it.
VardaValar1: She gave comments, especially nice to add to the page.
VardaValar1: You did see all three pictures, right?
ArPharazonV: Yes. I was referring to the second one actually.
VardaValar1: Thanks, and yes
VardaValar1: In a loopy, snaky way. :-)
ArPharazonV: He reminds me of Loki from the Thor movies now :-)
VardaValar1: Hmm. Not to me, but that's interesting.
ArPharazonV: Well, the sneaky, half-attractive, dark-haired snaky thing... just a bit less "trickster" and more "villain" I suppose.
VardaValar1: That's fair. Morgoth had a bit of trickster at the start, pulling Maiar to his side.
VardaValar1: Became as full on villain as can be.
ArPharazonV: Pretty much.
VardaValar1: Ok, the pics with Sauron in them too are now also on the page for Sauron.
VardaValar1: There's another pic of Sauron but I can't copy it yet. It should be available later on.
VardaValar1: Here's a pic of Arwen painted for a fan. The fan, Holly, put it online:
VardaValar1: from the Bohemian Weasel
VardaValar1: Namarie!
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
VardaValar1 has left the room.
ArPharazonV: saving and sending transcript