Valar Guild

July 12, 2015 Sunday Meeting

5pm EDT (UTC/GMT - 5)
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Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (2)
    AriehnV (presiding), ArPharazonV

Meeting begins
    Arien: LARP weekend for her next weekend.
    Trivia game.
    1. AriehnV: Before Bilbo went on his second final adventure to leave Bag End he planned something special for his party .. why was this party so special and what things in the organnisation of the party made it clear that it was special indeed?
    2. ArPharazonV: Name 5 hobbit families mentioned in Bilbo's speech as he addressed them!
    3. AriehnV: why did Strider tell Frodo to stop Merry and Pippin tellling stories in the Prancing Pony and how did he do that exacty :-)?
    4. ArPharazonV: Related question again; what four names did the hobbits give to Butterbur as they checked in?
    5. AriehnV: what Pipeweed was found amongst Sarumans flotsam?
    6. ArPharazonV: My bonus question, under what circumstances did one of the hobbits give their pipeweed up for the other? :-) (Includes a Tolkien Moment)
    More gaming news.

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AriehnV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: Aiya Phari :-)
ArPharazonV: How's it going? :-)
AriehnV: still knackered ... my shoulders are hurting from facing forward stuff and sorting out shelves .;-)
ArPharazonV: The move?
AriehnV: no not yet :-\ we havent found a flat yet
AriehnV: but at work
ArPharazonV: Ah!
AriehnV: anyhow its ten o ' clock past .. so time for the meeting start officially

AriehnV: Elen sila lumenn omentielvo! - A star shines upon the hour of our meeting
ArPharazonV: Gwai invited, anything from Indis?
AriehnV: i havent heard anything fro her
ArPharazonV: Right. She often shows up later anyway. [Note: She's traveling.]
AriehnV: true enough

AriehnV: lets start with the Membership news :-)
AriehnV: Varda cant be here tonight since they were on a family outing to see a Movie .. some Ant Movie i believe :-)
ArPharazonV: Yeah, Ant Man, I heard of that. Some superhero movie.
AriehnV: I quote from her email : " Coordinating the schedules between three households and two towns left us going today. Fangorn, Sauron, and I will be driving over to Elwing and DeepGroover-T to see the Ant-man movie and catch up on modeling and painting news." [Note: Ant-man isn't out until next week as we all realized on the road, so we saw Terminator:Genisys. Fun with models, too!]
AriehnV: So i hope they are having a great day and much fun together and catch up as well!
ArPharazonV: Agreed!

AriehnV: next membership news is concerning me .. I wont be here next weekend .. I go bashies orcs, undeads and bandidos :-D
ArPharazonV: LARP?
AriehnV: Aka Larp weekend in Silverwood near Barnsley in South Yourkshire and yes indeed Phari :-)
ArPharazonV: Nice!

ArPharazonV: As for me, nothing much... just dentist appointment tomorrow mornign
ArPharazonV: Also oral hygienist appointment tomorrow, coincidentally.
ArPharazonV: Both appointments made months apart, months ago.
AriehnV: sounds yikes
ArPharazonV: Yep, my mouth's getting checked up good tomorrow.
AriehnV: i ll be back the weekend after and working until Wednesday
AriehnV: so i ll be travelling via Glasgow by bus and train from Glasgow to barnsley and then a taxi to the site :-)
AriehnV: I ll stay overnight with the daughter of a colleague
ArPharazonV: Sounds like an adventure!
AriehnV: i am looking forward to it :-)

AriehnV: Webnews theres quite a few things . new art up
AriehnV: Tolkien Site / Art: Cave of the Bohemian Weasel-(T): "The Pillars of the Kings" The Argonath, river entrance to Gondor. "I would have gone with you to the end" Aragorn says goodbye to Frodo. "Be at peace, son of Gondor" Aragorn says goodbye to Boromir.
ArPharazonV: I.. think those were posted in the last meeting :P
AriehnV: oh it seems like it .. oh dear my bad :-\ I sincerely apologize
AriehnV: I told you i am knackered .. I severly apoogize for any further lapses in advance
ArPharazonV: That's alright, just thought I'd warn you :-)
AriehnV: then there is no further webnews i think there are some gaming news which Eonwe has posted
ArPharazonV: Also from the same email: "Eonwe has Gaming news posted. I'm not sure if I'll be loose long enough to put up something for the Tolkien Site, looking as if I'll hit the ground running after this email."

AriehnV: Warcraft: See highlights of the Timewalking dungeons: Halls of Lightning and Gundrak Check out the latest hotfixes.
ArPharazonV: Looks like she didn't put anything up then :-)
AriehnV: Have you tried out timewalking yet?
ArPharazonV: I have, in the first weekend, when it was the focus of the weekend, with a special quest for it.
ArPharazonV: Not too difficult.
ArPharazonV: Nostalgic though!
ArPharazonV: Unfortunately, as I'm a raider, the gear you get from timewalking isn't an improvement for me. But it's good for alts and non-raiders.
AriehnV: very good :-)
AriehnV: oh do we have played any non WoW - Non Lotro games yet?
AriehnV: the last week?
AriehnV: I have played Archeage and Eve a bit but didnt manage to do anything with Sauron this tme
ArPharazonV: D3, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, some flashgames... but I'll give my report in the end to keep the main meeting clean :-) For D3 there's a new patch on the PTR, I think, or an update.. season 4 has started there, anyway. Not on the live servers yet though.
ArPharazonV: That being Diablo 3, anyway.
ArPharazonV: There's a Hearthstone blog up in the form of an Innkeeper-story that hints at some new future content.
ArPharazonV: For the general Valar crowd I'll give the US version at
ArPharazonV: Rumors vary from Argent Tournament expansion to purchaseable mounts (not sure how those would fit in the game) and pretty much anything between.
ArPharazonV: And I think that's it for general news for those games.
AriehnV: Very nice thank you :-)

AriehnV: Do you have any suggesion for Tolkien that is fit for my mind state :-)?
[Note: Eonwe posted to the forum rp.]
AriehnV: or for my brain state rather hehe

ArPharazonV: We could make a simple trivia quiz ;-)
AriehnV: else ..yes you take out of my mouth Phari :-)
ArPharazonV: Who starts? You're first alphabetically :-)
AriehnV: all right
AriehnV: .. hmmm lets start simple and easy Lotr but you can take from any book you want

AriehnV: Before Bilbo went on his second final adventure to leave Bag End he planned something special for his party .. why was this party so special and what things in the organnisation of the party made it clear that it was special indeed?
ArPharazonV: It was both his and his nephew Frodo's birthday!
ArPharazonV: He turned 111, a number of some respect, and frodo came of age with 33.
ArPharazonV: Together, 144, a "gross", which was also how many were invited to the central dinner and speech.
ArPharazonV: Hmm, did I miss anything?
AriehnV: one thing .. actually two
ArPharazonV: That it was 60 years after his own adventure?
ArPharazonV: Or his speech and disappearance?
AriehnV: The fireworks and the signs that went up .. as well as the invitations of the party which were written in golden ink :-)
ArPharazonV: Ah!
ArPharazonV: More details than I could remember :-)
ArPharazonV: Well, let me think.

ArPharazonV: Name 5 hobbit families mentioned in Bilbo's speech as he addressed them!
ArPharazonV: Sorry for formulating it so much more simple than you did ;-)
AriehnV: Proudfoot .. err Proudefeet, Bolger, Boffin , Bracegirdle , Sackheim-Beutlin
ArPharazonV: ...Sackheim-Beutlin?
AriehnV: yes at the very end :-)
ArPharazonV: I'll.. have to look that up.
AriehnV: feel free :-)
ArPharazonV: Ack, grabbed the wrong book.
ArPharazonV: ..Right, of course, the Sackville-Bagginses. Not sure where your name come from? Do you have the German version?
ArPharazonV: But it'll do for the question ;-) Another round?
AriehnV: Sackville . Bagginses . yes darn it lol thats from the German version
AriehnV: yeah another round

AriehnV: why did Strider tell Frodo to stop Merry and Pippin tellling stories in the Prancing Pony and how did he do that exacty :-)?
ArPharazonV: Possibly because strangers were listening in, but I don't remember how.
ArPharazonV: That scene doesn't sound very familiar :-)
AriehnV: tsk ..
AriehnV: Merry and Pippin were telling stories about the Mayor Willy Whitfoot if you remember :-)
AriehnV: and Strider was worried about something . because they mentioned the leaving party and the speach .
AriehnV: does that ring a bell?
ArPharazonV: Not really. But if I recall the scene generally, I assume that Frodo stopped them talking about it by jumping on the table and singing a song?
AriehnV: yes .. indeed .. the fiddling cat song in fact :-) .. and Strider was worried they would mention the ring in their sillyness
ArPharazonV: And Frodo made it worse by going invisible!
AriehnV: and the cow jumped over the moon and the man in the moon .. indeed Phari :-)
AriehnV: but yes thats what happenened *nods*
AriehnV: your turn
ArPharazonV: Right, sorry, was distracted. Let's see...

ArPharazonV: Related question again; what four names did the hobbits give to Butterbur as they checked in?
AriehnV: Meriadoc Brandybuck, Peregrin Took , Samwise Gamgee and .. Frodo .. Underhill
ArPharazonV: They only gave one first name, but it'll do :D
AriehnV: :-)

AriehnV: what Pipeweed was found amongst Sarumans flotsam?
ArPharazonV: Longbottom Leaf?
ArPharazonV: Vaguely recall Merry giving his last to Pippin in the end.. or other way around.
AriehnV: correct :-)
ArPharazonV: Yay for weird memory associations.

ArPharazonV: My bonus question, under what circumstances did one of the hobbits give their pipeweed up for the other? :-)
AriehnV: hmmm i remember Frodo offering Saruman some tobacco .. when they met him on the road .. i cant remember where exactly that was
AriehnV: was that near Bywater?
ArPharazonV: I meant Merry and Pippin.
AriehnV: uh ...
AriehnV: I cant remember that
ArPharazonV: That's if I'm remembering it right, anyway.
ArPharazonV: NOt a guarantee.
ArPharazonV: Houses of Healing, I think.
ArPharazonV: Feel free to correct me if you have RotK with you.
AriehnV: just c hecking
AriehnV: /
AriehnV: "Master Meriadoc .." said Aragorn, "if you think that I have passed through the mountains and the realm of Gondor with fire and sword to bring herps to a careless soldier who throws away his gear, you are mistaken"#
AriehnV: "If your pack has not been found, then you must send for the herp-master of this House. And he will tell you that he did not know that the herb you desire had some virtues, but that it is called woestmansweed by the vulgar, and galenas by the noble and other names in other tounges ore learned, and after adding a few half-forgotten rhyumes that he does not understand
AriehnV: "he wil regetfully inform you that there is none in the House, and he will leave you to reflect on the history of tounges" .. break quote
AriehnV: contine further down " My dear ass, your pack is lying by your bed and you had it on your back when i found you. he saw it all the time! Anyway I have my stuff of my own!" .. end quote
AriehnV: it was not there i fear ^^ but it is a brilliant scene to mention and i love it :-)
AriehnV: thanks for that !
ArPharazonV: I misremembered then!
ArPharazonV: Can happen.
AriehnV: Its all right :-)
AriehnV: It doesnt matter and i suggest , since we had our tolkien moment and a bit of trivia we call it for now , at least the official part.
ArPharazonV: Sure.

AriehnV: "Brings out a big mirror and shines bright rays in the mirror that flare bright in a certain rhythm" .. it spells .. Aftermeeting
ArPharazonV: Not allowed to borrow Varda's gavel?
AriehnV: uh .. she gave it Eonwe to polish!
ArPharazonV: Right! Hmm.

ArPharazonV: Personal gaming!
ArPharazonV: Humhumhum, looking for some flashgames...
ArPharazonV: Right, got 2 for you this week.
ArPharazonV: is a 2 v 2 soccer match which basically feels very random. You can only do one thing which is making your characters jump, the AI does the same thing, and you have to get the ball in their goal more often than they do in yours.
ArPharazonV: There are also several environmental modifiers, but they don't do too much.
ArPharazonV: is the other game! Simple puzzly platformer where you play a frog that can't jump, but can climb ladders and move blocks, to collect keys and reach the exit for every level.
ArPharazonV: Some require some thinking, indeed!
AriehnV: hehe kind of fun this soccer .. just played a quick one and won 5 - 0 :-)
ArPharazonV: I can see you're skilled at it already!
ArPharazonV: Hearthstone: Still going along. No new levels yet, but there was a new Tavern Brawl this week which, for every spell you cast, you got a random minion of the same cost as the spell.
ArPharazonV: Had some fun with a 30-spell priest deck :-)
ArPharazonV: Also played some Heroes of the Storm, but no news there. The Diablo event is still ongoing, which means 100 gold from a treasure goblin whenever you play your first match of the day!
ArPharazonV: Diablo 3: Put a bit more time in my seasonal monk this weekend, but it didn't help all too much. Got 5 levels, from 63 to 68. Should reach level 70 next week, finally.
ArPharazonV: World of Warcraft:
ArPharazonV: Where to start!
ArPharazonV: We had Darkmoon Faire this week, which came with something new: A vendor near the docks, which sold a bunch of items for daggermaw fish you could fish on the island.
ArPharazonV: Stuff sold are two pets, one toy, 3 cooking recipes, and an item that starts a short series of quests in the form of a treasure-hunt.
ArPharazonV: There are also some consumables, but the things mentioned above, which I went for, cost 360 fish total. So if you want them, better get fishing next time it comes along again :-)
ArPharazonV: There's also a new achievement there, rewarding a Hogger pet.
ArPharazonV: I got a silly-looking spore pet from a rare mob in Spires of Arak as well, but none from the old raids. Better luck next time!
ArPharazonV: I finished everything I wanted to do with the Gearworks in my garrison, including getting all 9 of the objectives on the achievement for it, even though I only needed 6. Now I can replace it with the Mage Tower when that project is due!
ArPharazonV: And I also did the quest for the jukebox in the garrison! Getting more music for it other than the default tunes is quite a collection project, there are dozens of them all over the game, usually in tough raids.
ArPharazonV: So fun to get that started. I also snatched the music roll for the Darkmoon Carousel while the Darkmoon Faire is up, so now is blasting permanently through my garrison until I choose otherwise ;-) This is going to be a fun little project indeed.
AriehnV: nice :-)
ArPharazonV: Still doing heroic instances for the coins I need for a short heirloom-related quest-series. First 3 quests done, for the fourth (out of four) I'm halfway with collecting. Only 25 coins to go, with any luck I'll get all that next week.
ArPharazonV: For raids, we won the Hellfire Assault fight on heroic difficulty, and got around halfway for the heroic Iron Reaver fight. So progress is being made! On normal we're still struggling on some sort of giant void revenant whose name I can never remember. Or pronounce.
ArPharazonV: I did get my first setpiece for the new tier today, on normal. Hopefully the second one won't wait too long.
ArPharazonV: And I think that's my news for this week!
ArPharazonV: Have you got anything new?
ArPharazonV: Oh, as an afterthought...
ArPharazonV: The first half of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic season 5 ended yesterday, with a few months' hiatus (and the third movie) until the second half. Yesterday's episode just blew me away with the (rare) focus on one of my favorite characters and a ton of fan-pandering callback in the second half of the episode.
ArPharazonV: In fact, out of the last 5 episodes, 3 of them have been undeniably amazing for those of us who have been in the fandom for years, calling back to the very first episode and referencing a ton of old episodes along the way, as well as drawing a lot of inspiration and confirmation of things that the fandom has come up with and has had as "headcanon", or "fanon" for a long time.
AriehnV: sounds exciting
ArPharazonV: Just mentioning this as an absolute peak in the history of the show, and that if anyone reading this is a fan but has not caught up yet, I strongly advise you to watch episodes 9, 12 and 13 of season 5 as soon as you have the time :-) And of course as a thank you to the creators! ;-)
ArPharazonV: Now I'm just hoping the second half will be half as good *grin*
AriehnV has left the room.
AriehnV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiyata
ArPharazonV: Allright, saving and sending transcript