Valar Guild

December 6, 2015 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (5)
Arien-(Valar)/AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Gilraen-(V)/Iryenth, PallandoValar, and VardaValar1 (presiding)

Meeting begins
    Discussion topic:  In Shelob's lair, Frodo brings out the phial of Galadriel and calls out in Quenya, ‘Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima!’
At this point, he brings on a battle between very high level forces, all with one item in the hand of a hobbit. What's going on? To him, it's not much more than a really good torch to worry back a huge spider. Is there anything more than that on either side?
    Arien: a friend's artwork showing their WoW characters.
    Ar-Pharazon: gaming news including flashgaming reviews.
    Arien: gaming news.

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
AriehnV has entered the room.
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Arien and Ar-Pharazon :-)
VardaValar1: Hi from Bilbo :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya Arien and Varda!
AriehnV: Aiya Varda and Phari :-)
AriehnV: hey to Bilbo :-D
VardaValar1: Going to grab a soda, brb. Gorlim is trying to see if he can come to the meeting. Good luck to him!
ArPharazonV: Aiya Bilbo!
VardaValar1: back
VardaValar1: Hi from Sauron. :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya Sauron!
VardaValar1: Such different people. :-)
ArPharazonV: Eh, both ringbearers.
VardaValar1: True that!
Iryenth has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Gilraen! :-)
Iryenth: Aiya :-)
AriehnV: Aiya Gilraen :-D long time no see
VardaValar1: Ok, that's everyone I can see. Still need to update this list.

VardaValar1: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
VardaValar1: Membership:
VardaValar1: Lots of craziness with Christmas coming up, mostly from an upbeat attitude, a pleasure to see.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Gilraen!
VardaValar1: Anything you folks would like to mention?
ArPharazonV: Winter Veil's coming :-)
VardaValar1: That's a WoW festival, for those reading that don't know.

VardaValar1: Web:
VardaValar1: We have art from the Bohemian Weasel-(T):
VardaValar1: "Aiya Eärendil" Frodo using the phial of Galadriel in Shelob's lair, saying "Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima!" "Hail Eärendil brightest of stars!".
ArPharazonV: Still over a week away though.
VardaValar1: While this is just one picture, black and white, a ton of Tolkien lore intersects all in one place here, considering it as our potential subject later.

VardaValar1: Gaming:
VardaValar1: For WoW, as Phar mentioned, we have the upcoming in a week, Winter Veil. :-)
VardaValar1: From Eonwe:
VardaValar1: The Alpha Test is going for the Legion Expansion. Currently open: Stormheim and Highmountain.
VardaValar1: See what's for fun this month in WoW.
VardaValar1: See the latest hotfixes.
VardaValar1: StarCraft 2:
VardaValar1: The previously mentioned Nova Covert Ops missions will be for sale, and are now available for pre-order. See this blog for details.
VardaValar1: Hearthstone:
VardaValar1: New patch this week: Patch
VardaValar1: Also out this week: The League of Explorers: The Ruined City.
VardaValar1: Overwatch:
VardaValar1: The closed beta is coming down for a bit. See the announcement for details.
VardaValar1: LotRO:
VardaValar1: Servers are coming down Monday 07dec 800am - 1100am for an update.
PallandoValar has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya Pallando!
VardaValar1: We also have Hobnangians gaming this weekend.
VardaValar1: Yule coming up this month for the festival.
VardaValar1: Pallando, do you have any EVE news if you have a minute?
ArPharazonV: Aiya Pallando!
VardaValar1: Also, transfers off of Vilya server on Monday, seems as if that could get sticky going on at the same time. I have some there to bring home to Landroval.
VardaValar1: Brandwine and Evernight will have transfers off closed, giving Arkenstone and Gwaihir servers their turn.
VardaValar1: Then Tuesday, Meneldor server to complete the US closing worlds.
VardaValar1: Snowbourne will be another week or two, since it's so large and they have to add more capacity.
VardaValar1: That's all the LotRO news for the moment. :-)
VardaValar1: Any other gaming news?
VardaValar1: Any more business, suggestions, what you'd like to see added to the meeting (or removed), what you'd like to see in the Gaming or Tolkien Sites?

VardaValar1: Tolkien:
VardaValar1: Here's the picture again for those that missed it earlier:
VardaValar1: In Shelob's lair, Frodo brings out the phial of Galadriel and calls out in Quenya
VardaValar1: ‘Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima!’
VardaValar1: At this point, he brings on a battle between very high level forces, all with one item in the hand of a hobbit. What's going on?
VardaValar1: To him, it's not much more than a really good torch to worry back a huge spider.
VardaValar1: Is there anything more than that on either side?
ArPharazonV: A descendant of Ungoliant faced down by a fragment of the light she once tried to consume.
ArPharazonV: I like it!
VardaValar1: Very good
VardaValar1: Full circle
VardaValar1: Does anyone have more to add?
VardaValar1: Where does the light come from?
ArPharazonV: Ultimately from the Silmaril carried by Earendil up in the skies, and captured in the phial by Galadriel.
VardaValar1: And why was Shelob present in the tunnel?
ArPharazonV: Good place to feed on orcs and intruders into Mordor.
AriehnV: uhm she fled there maybe a survivor of the Assault on Thangorodrim or fled the fortress before that when Sauron and ungolian were defeated maybe?
VardaValar1: and found a place where she was encouraged to stay. Why was she wanted there and by whom?
AriehnV: decendant of Ungoliant .. direct? , she served as excellent guardian of the hidden pass althiough she just might have found it a convenent hiding spot with easy access to food
ArPharazonV: Sauron didn't mind spending the occasional orc if she kept the tunnel clear.
VardaValar1: What served her purpose happened to serve another's so that she could remain.
VardaValar1: Aye
ArPharazonV: Not sure why the orcs didn't just blow up the tunnel and get rid of both invaders and the hungry hungry spider.
ArPharazonV: ..Oh, right, they didn't yet have explosives until Saruman invented it.
VardaValar1: Sauron wanted her there. They couldn't go against him.
ArPharazonV: "She's still in there! She just can't get out!"
VardaValar1: She had found herself a good home, plenty of food, lots of safe tunnels.
VardaValar1: She served Sauron's purpose, and therefore Morgoth's. Shades of Ungoliant again.
ArPharazonV: I wonder if Shelob was happy there.
VardaValar1: Probably contented
VardaValar1: Lack of Mirkwood male spiders, but maybe she was tired of them for crispy crunchies.
VardaValar1: So we have the forces of light and dark coming together against each other in this tunnel, brought in by Frodo in this one picture.
ArPharazonV: Unfortunately, Frodo still got stung.
VardaValar1: *eyes gavel, wondering why it arcs*
VardaValar1: Frodo thought he was safe, went running out of the tunnel into the light. Giddy, got stung in the back.
VardaValar1: Sam inherited the use of the phial too. Wonder who all expected that!
ArPharazonV: Possibly Galadriel.
VardaValar1: Aye, and maybe Gandalf who sent him.
VardaValar1: or figured on him as potential backup.
ArPharazonV: Always good to have a backup system.
VardaValar1: True. Four hobbits should just about do it. :-)
AriehnV: if Saruman invented explosives .. Gandalf changed their use somewhat for pleasure than destruction :-)
ArPharazonV: The quest stands on the edge of the knife. Stray but a little, and we'll have another hobbit lined up behind you.
VardaValar1: In real life, black powder was originally for fireworks, military use was later. Perhaps it was the same in Middle-earth.
VardaValar1: hehehe - well said, Phar
ArPharazonV: Ah, yes, of course. Fireworks were around for a few years longer, at least.
VardaValar1: Both of you have things you want to discuss in After-meeting, so...
VardaValar1: *gavel hits the gavel board on the stone table*
VardaValar1: *sparks arc far and wide, beautiful, and surprisingly harmless*

VardaValar1: After-meeting:
VardaValar1: Arien, you had some images you wanted to share?
AriehnV: by the way .. a bit valr unrelated but there is a niice picture of my characters on a friends website .. the artist who is one of my rp partners
AriehnV: and if you look at the other pictures in her gallery i have to warn you a bit .. mostly are rp related and understandable to those who took part but they can be a bit scary
AriehnV: this is my main
AriehnV: and this is my rp family on Earthen ring, that is WoW Europe
AriehnV: back row the red haired adult is mine , Kerinas
AriehnV: the boy with the whelp you recognise probably despite the different technique
AriehnV: and the black clad dark haired girl is Ackiera my rogue
AriehnV: The red haired girl in the purple robe is Erin , played by Ted , and the grey haired guy is Dostarion played by the artist :-)
VardaValar1: We're supposed to know the boy with the dragon whelp?
AriehnV: yes thats Sulnar from the first link
VardaValar1: Thanks
AriehnV: The whelp is Reval his foster son ^^ , an honor npc in the guild for some toddling chaos ^^
VardaValar1: hehe
AriehnV: I am done here
AriehnV: sorry for that :-)
VardaValar1: Wondering if she waterpainted over a docked photo. Cool effect.
AriehnV: she uses a tablet
AriehnV: with a paintng tool
AriehnV: you know one of them pen things
ArPharazonV: Nice :-)
ArPharazonV: So you're a dragon in disguise, eh.
ArPharazonV: Sometimes I wonder how many of those are walking around in Silvermoon :-)
VardaValar1: Could cause all sorts of complications.
ArPharazonV: Or flying, as the case may be.
ArPharazonV: Well then, I suppose it's my turn!

ArPharazonV: Personal gaming!
ArPharazonV: For flashgames I'll give 3 games this week, as I was spoilt for choice :-)
ArPharazonV: is the first! I found it this week as it recently joined another website I visit, but as always for consistency, I will put in the kong url even though it's years old.
VardaValar1: Feel free to put in the new one too if you like. Consistency is a good idea too.
ArPharazonV: 2d platformer where you have to go up through a tower of floors and areas to avoid the rising acid. Simple, perhaps cliche idea, but there's a story around it and things to collect.
ArPharazonV: then :-)
ArPharazonV: And the other 2 I also found on kongregate as badges of the day earlier this week, even though they're older.
ArPharazonV: is the sequel to "this is the only level" wherein you have to navigate the same easy level over and over, but with an interesting twist every time around.
ArPharazonV: and is an RTS/defense game with upgrades for your army and spells, whereby you have to conquer all the land with batallions of units that can auto-path.
ArPharazonV: Been updated a few times with more units and races, too.

ArPharazonV: Now, blizzard games!
ArPharazonV: Hearthstone: 4 out of 9 classes are level 38 now, and the other 5 are really close behind. I haven't progressed further into the adventure wings, but I'll get around to that at some point, I'm sure!
ArPharazonV: The patch mentioned earlier is a special one, with 3 new card backs revealed, including one for the Winter Veil holiday, but how to get that or how Winter Veil is implemented, we don't know. Rumors say that it'll have to do with an upcoming tavern brawl.
ArPharazonV: Heroes of the Storm: Still messing around with more heroes, and bought the Second Chance Bundle for Black Friday, with mounts and skins that were only available again for a short time after being retired a long time ago. Just couldn't resist ;-)
ArPharazonV: I don't think I'll buy the Covert Ops mission pack in Starcraft II for a while though, if ever. I don't like the business model of adding new storyline content in little pay-wall packages which have, traditionally, been free updates in the past, like Diablo 3 patches or the Orc campaign in Frozen Throne.
ArPharazonV: Besides, I'm not a Nova fan.
ArPharazonV: But hey, it's Blizzard's game, their decision.
ArPharazonV: WoW: (where updates also generally tend to be free, unless it's cosmetic stuff, while the subscription fee stays the same)
ArPharazonV: Am doing very well in Tanaan! 2 of the 3 factions revered now, and the other only about a thousand rep behind. 2 of the story arcs for Tanaan completed as well, and a bunch of rares and all 4 champions killed for the achievement. Been making good progress indeed, and if I wanted to go for it I could probably start on the 100 treasures next week, to finish the achievement needed to unlock flight.
ArPharazonV: I also collected a new pet from Tanaan, the Fel Pup, cute little green doggy.
ArPharazonV: As for raiding, we killed Archimonde, the last boss, on Heroic difficulty today :-) Got a big achievement for it, a new mount for everyone from a special little questline starting with a guaranteed drop from the boss on heroic, and personally the heroic version of the class trinket.
ArPharazonV: We'll probably farm the last few bosses on heroic for a while, and move on to Mythic difficulty soon, something we did not manage to do in the earlier 2 raids this expansion before the next raid came out.
ArPharazonV: This'll truly be the highest difficulty of this expansion, and we've got until summer to see how far we get!
VardaValar1: Nice. Hope it lasts you at least a week. :-)
VardaValar1: /duck
ArPharazonV: In the mythic 5-man dungeons I've been going nicely as well, getting 4 of the 5 heirloom trinkets. One to go!
ArPharazonV: what, the mount, the trinket, or mythic difficulty? :-)
ArPharazonV: the difficulty should be quite a pain, it's a huge gap from heroic to mythic, with whole new abilities and very little margin for error
VardaValar1: Gaming lasting til summer
ArPharazonV: but only time will tell!
ArPharazonV: and yes, it should last quite a while, not sure if we'll make it!
ArPharazonV: And that should be my news for this week!
VardaValar1: Thank you, Phar. :-)
AriehnV: congratulations for all that :-)

AriehnV: I finally started "shadows of Revan" on SwotR
ArPharazonV: Oh, and mount is very nice, a big shiny moose that can also fly (unless you're in Draenor and can't fly there yet ;-))
AriehnV: which is the previous expansion before the last ^^
ArPharazonV: Ah!
ArPharazonV: And I thought I was behind on my MMO content :-)
AriehnV: nice one Phar :-) no , hehe your not the only one
AriehnV: i think there is a special achievement if you do the full contentr with all eight classes
AriehnV: four Republic and four Empire
ArPharazonV: That sounds like it must take a while.
AriehnV: there are leve specialists who manage to level a character very fast to top level within a few days but if you do all the story questlines i think it does
ArPharazonV: Ah, a bit like Diablo 3 then, I guess?
AriehnV: in that sense yess
AriehnV: i see more and more parallels to familiar games , many of which are Blizzards, in there ^^
AriehnV: even some of the boss fights in solo dungeons looked somewhat familiar ;-)
ArPharazonV: They're good at starting trends, that's true.
AriehnV: uhm else .. i ve been playing a little bit LotrO too :-) and the guardian is up to level 78 now :-) and questing around Parth Galen and and Amon Hen :-)
ArPharazonV: Don't fall down the waterfall! Seems very high.
AriehnV: I ll take care :-) havent fallen down much in Lotro yet while in WoW i fell down everything you possibly can i think ^^
AriehnV: including Nexus and Thunder Bluff ..
ArPharazonV: is LotRO safer that way?
AriehnV: seems to be sometimes :-)
ArPharazonV: And yes, I think Thunder Bluff is famous for that.
VardaValar1: Unless on /follow in Rivendell
AriehnV: and when you fall down somewhere in LotrO you end up with a fall damage and your toon limps for a while
AriehnV: unless its to high of course
ArPharazonV: Limp? Nice touch.
ArPharazonV: Ever fallen off Teldrassil?
AriehnV: I think i did actually :-\
ArPharazonV: A must, for any night elf.
AriehnV: hehe indeed :-)
VardaValar1: Yes. :-)
AriehnV: Other gaming news .l. my Eve subscription wiill last until mid March and then i ll stop it again , since it takes too much time to really enjoy or explore fully and i lack that from playing other mmo's that I find easer to get into]
ArPharazonV: Aw.
AriehnV: but until then i am enjoying missions now and again and getting with the traing of my pilots somewhere so they can do decent damage
ArPharazonV: Got any goals you want to reach?
AriehnV: being able to run incursions with a fleet if i could ever find a fleet .. but then Corps often demand more activity then i am able to give
ArPharazonV: Aw.
AriehnV: or actually do Wormholes but again dont have the time for it
ArPharazonV: Being active in multiple games can be a problem, yes :-)
AriehnV: and very often i am at work during the day as well so not very often available for corp actions
AriehnV: so .. that makes it difficult to make the subscription worthwhile
ArPharazonV: Can imagine.
AriehnV has left the room.
AriehnV has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiyata
AriehnV: cheers . computer froze and crashed so had to restart
VardaValar1: ouch - welcome back
AriehnV: but bio now brb thanks :-)

ArPharazonV: And that's the fifth class to level 38
ArPharazonV: Other 4 are so close to the edge I can't even tell who's further ahead.
ArPharazonV: And that's class nr 6 ;-)
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ArPharazonV: 7!
AriehnV: hello :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiyata :-)
AriehnV: whats seven with one strike?
ArPharazonV: 7th class to level 38 in Hearthstone.
ArPharazonV: 2 to go.
AriehnV: :-D grats
AriehnV: right .. i should be heading upstairs , i think Bruce has to work in the sweet shop tomorrow hehe , but i let him in the bathroom first
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
AriehnV: Namarie for now :-) sleep well once you get to it
AriehnV has left the room.
ArPharazonV: And that's class 8 ;-)
VardaValar1: Grats :-)
ArPharazonV: And that's all 9 done!
VardaValar1: Yay!
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