Valar Guild

February 9, 2014 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (UTC/GMT - 5)
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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (4)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar (presiding), VardaValar1 (After-meeting)

Meeting begins
    Chat topic: Tom Bombadil: Why not give him the Ring, put him on the back of an eagle, and fly him to Mount Doom to throw the Ring in?
    Chat topic: Tom Bombadil: Why a bright blue jacket with yellow boots? Wouldn't orange boots go better with blue?
    Chat topic: What material can be found near Tom Bombadil to construct his rocket boots?

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya.
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
Eonwe Valar: Looks like we should give it a couple more minutes, hehe.
AriehnV has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya Arien :]
AriehnV: Aiya Eonwe
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
AriehnV: :-)
AriehnV: and aiya Phara
Eonwe Valar: OK, let's begin the meeting :}

Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: You all are here :}
Eonwe Valar: Well, you two :}
AriehnV: hehe
AriehnV: we are somebody *nods*
ArPharazonV: That we are.
Eonwe Valar: Varda is still away, spending time with family.
Eonwe Valar: Any other Membership news?

Eonwe Valar: Web:
Eonwe Valar: Nothing new to announce here.

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Darkmoon Faire was this past week, Love is in the Air will be starting tomorrow.
ArPharazonV: Nothing new for Love is in the Air, alas. Well, not according to the blog-guide anyway.
Eonwe Valar: Lothar: I did manage to get my T16 LFR gloves this week, which allowed me to upgrade my helm as well.
Eonwe Valar: I also got my Druid to 90, so that makes 3 classes to 90 for me: Paladin (x3), Rogue, and Druid.
ArPharazonV: Great! Druids are fun ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Means I can stop holding onto Timeless Leather gear since I probably won't get a monk up to 90 in time for there to be a point in using it :}
AriehnV: very nice grats
Eonwe Valar: Thanks :}

Eonwe Valar: LotRO:
Eonwe Valar: I have no news from LotRO to report.
Eonwe Valar: Actually I do. There's an update coming, 12.3
Eonwe Valar: Should be coming tomorrow.

AriehnV: did a bit "Turtledancing* with Helm this week .. in WoW that is hunting them Turtles at the timeless beach .. he joined our horde guild on Earthen Ring
ArPharazonV: Turtles? I always went for the frogs on the southeast side.
AriehnV: he is a quite formidable tank and been on the run with him before work on my druid
AriehnV: as a chicken ^
AriehnV: nice combo
AriehnV: can you skin the frogs?
ArPharazonV: Oh, for skinning. No.
ArPharazonV: Nevermind then.
AriehnV: yeah was for skinning and for the 20 elites quest
AriehnV: and hunting for shoulderz
ArPharazonV: Well, as long as we're on WoW news..
Eonwe Valar: I tend to go for the pirates on the ship past the frogs for the 20 elites. grouped together, pretty easy to kill, then finish however many I need on the frogs.
ArPharazonV: I got all my pet-levelling done and won my first Celestial Tournament! So now I've got a little Calfling :-)
Eonwe Valar: Technically we'd moved on, but Arien brought us back :}
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :}
ArPharazonV: 9 weeks of victories I still need, though, for the other 3 pets.
ArPharazonV: But at least I've got the pets for it now :-)
ArPharazonV: I tended to go for frogs because the pirates don't drop epoch stones.
Eonwe Valar: Funny, I remember getting stones from them, just not alot.
ArPharazonV: The rare one, maybe?
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, don't see Stinkbraid or the pirates on the list on Wowhead, but I'm sure I've got stones from them.
Eonwe Valar: Oh well, maybe I'll try it on Ranelus after the meeting and report on it.
Eonwe Valar: He should still have the quest.
Eonwe Valar: Any other WoW news?
ArPharazonV: Sure, now I'm curious :-)
AriehnV: anyway thats it from me oh and he had a tad go at rp think he enjoys it although he sais he *still got to get his head round* it
ArPharazonV: Not much news on the raiding front here. Still up to 2 heroic bossfights down, and this week has been a bit slow.
AriehnV: got two more of the epic firelland embers
ArPharazonV: Oh, I'm a cooking master now and finally got the school bell for the daily quest to skill up an apprentice :-)
AriehnV: so am at six now .. wow hehe we tried heroic yesterday but too few people
AriehnV: but we got two bosses .. spider on heroic and birdie normal again
AriehnV: after that we had to call it
ArPharazonV: Oh, not bad.
AriehnV: so carry on :-)
ArPharazonV: Yep, I'm done for WoW reporting now.

Eonwe Valar: D3:
Eonwe Valar: New Patch for the PTR and Closed Beta servers. A little more than a month until Reaper of Souls goes live :}
AriehnV: nice

Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
ArPharazonV: Well, been doing more flashgaming, and ran into an odd MMO-ish thing where you have to run a shop in a fantasy world, create items, and sell it to adventurers.
ArPharazonV: While using your profit to upgrade your shop and the town around, where other players have their shops, so you can all contribute to get more resources.
ArPharazonV: There are some pay-to-speed-things-up features but they're not necessary to enjoy the game.
ArPharazonV: Enjoy, if you're interested!
Eonwe Valar: Thanks Phar.
Eonwe Valar: If there's no gaming news, then on to Tolkien!
Eonwe Valar: *no more gaming news, that is.

Eonwe Valar: Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar: Either of you have a Tolkien topic you want to discuss? :}
Eonwe Valar: OK, quick one: Tom Bombadil: Why not give him the Ring, put him on the back of an eagle, and fly him to Mount Doom to throw the Ring in?
ArPharazonV: Since the Ring mattered so little to him, he probably would've lost it on the way.
Eonwe Valar: Put it on a chain around his neck?
ArPharazonV: Possibly.
ArPharazonV: What about Mordor's air defenses?
ArPharazonV: you know, flak cannons and such?
Eonwe Valar: What air defenses did they have besides those winged creatures the Nazgul flew on at the end?
ArPharazonV: Ehr... orcs with crossbows I guess.
ArPharazonV: And those winged creatures are not enough?
Eonwe Valar: If there's only 9 of them against all the eagles under Gwaihir's lordship, I'd say no :}
ArPharazonV: Would Bombadil have agreed to it, anyway?
Eonwe Valar: That would be the question :}
ArPharazonV: Afk a bit, food.
Eonwe Valar: OK, shall we bang the gavel then?
AriehnV: looks outs on towers .. nazgul .. crebain ...
AriehnV: sorcerers with orbs guess .. mock copies of the Palanitir maybe or scrying tools
ArPharazonV: back
Eonwe Valar: WB :}
ArPharazonV: sorcerers with orbs, eh?
ArPharazonV: By the way, why Tom Bombadil? I thought he only had power in/around the Old Forest.
ArPharazonV: Might as well send in Gandalf instead.
ArPharazonV: Or is it because Gandalf would be corrupted before he got there?
Eonwe Valar: As Gandalf says (paraphrased) it's not that Bombadil has power over the Ring, but that it has no power over him.
ArPharazonV: Put Gandalf and Frodo on an eagle. Frodo with ring, Gandalf with whatever protection he can offer.
Eonwe Valar: In his own bounds, Bombadil is the Master, but I don't think that means stepping out of them he'd be useless.
AriehnV: well certainly not if he IS of Maiar kind
ArPharazonV: Useful enough to disturb him in his natural habitat? :-)
AriehnV: but Tom Bombadil never would leave the borders of his own realm .. that is that only he could see
Eonwe Valar: It would take alot of convincing (just like it would to get Bombadil to keep the Ring in his territory).
ArPharazonV: The reason they didn't do it probably had to do with the mortal races having to fix the mess, or something.
ArPharazonV: Or maybe they did try and he could not be persuaded!
ArPharazonV: Hmm, next chapter of Scouting Ahead: visiting Bombadil?
Eonwe Valar: I can see Bombadil at the Siege of Minas Tirith "Now what're you doing there, Mr. Mumak? Why don't you sit on down here and relax with 'old Tom!" *All the mumakil sit down*
ArPharazonV: Well you could actually summon Tom Bombadil there in Battle for Middle-earth, couldn't you?
ArPharazonV: Though he'd just dance with them.
Eonwe Valar: BFME 2, aye.
Eonwe Valar: That was amusing.
ArPharazonV: Hmm ,but did that have Minas Tirith?
ArPharazonV: Maybe in the Risk-like wargame you'd be able to visit there, never tried.
AriehnV: Tom Bombadil dancing with Nazgul .. oh yes new name for him " dances with Nazgul*
AriehnV: but what could convince Bombadil to leave his realm?
Eonwe Valar: Nazgul: "Oh no! We have been defeated by singing! You will rue this day, Bombadil!" *Shriek and fly away*
Eonwe Valar: What could convince him to leave his realm? Probably a longer conversation than anyone could stand to have with him :}
ArPharazonV: "If Sauron got the Ring, how long would you be able to hold out here?"
ArPharazonV: "How long could you keep the Orcs from cutting down your forest?"
Eonwe Valar: That might motivate him, aye.
Eonwe Valar: It looks like the chat has reached its conclusion, so I shall bang the gavel :}
Eonwe Valar: *bangs gavel*

Eonwe Valar: Aftermeeting:
Eonwe Valar: For aftermeeting chat: Tom Bombadil: Why a bright blue jacket with yellow boots? Wouldn't orange boots go better with blue?
ArPharazonV: You gotta have yellow boots, come on.
Eonwe Valar: heh
Eonwe Valar: *hehe
Eonwe Valar: OK, fine, yellow, buy why boots? He spends his time dancing around the forest. Walking shoes would be more comfortable.
ArPharazonV: Might be puddles. He did live near the river.
Eonwe Valar: He can't just tell the water not to soak into his shoes? :}
ArPharazonV: He was living with the river's daughter. I assume he learned to accept wet feet sooner or later.
AriehnV: walk on the water?
Eonwe Valar: So, did he make his own boots or go into the Shire to buy them? :}
ArPharazonV: Hmm, depends on the material of the boots, perhaps. Rubber comes to mind, but that seems anachronistic.
AriehnV: persuade Goldberry to make them speciall so they would be able to hover slightly on the water?
AriehnV: *thinks of rocket boots in various WoW quests .. lalalala*
Eonwe Valar: hehe. Not sure if the Old Forest would have the materials for rocketboots :}
ArPharazonV: Barrow Downs might?
AriehnV: well .. you need gass to fuel them ..
AriehnV: and heat
AriehnV: maybe lend a bit fire from smaug :-P
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
VardaValar1: Hour and a half late, sorry to have missed the meeting. Stunned to have made it into the room!
VardaValar1: Aiya Golden One!
AriehnV: aiya Varda ..
VardaValar1: Sunshine!
AriehnV: Tolkien discussion .. what material can be found near Tom bombadil to construct his rocket boots?
ArPharazonV: hah
VardaValar1: Swamp gas - methane?
Eonwe Valar: Heya Varda :}
Eonwe Valar: Welcome to Aftermeeting :}
VardaValar1: They're such a bright yellow that they just naturally get taken off?
VardaValar1: Yay!
ArPharazonV: I'm guessing there might be metal ores in the Barrow Downs, if not actual buried weapons that can be melted/reforged.
Eonwe Valar: True. Metal, eithre forged or unforged, would be in the Barrow Downs.
VardaValar1: Aye. Proof would be the sword that rested across the necks of the Hobbits.
Eonwe Valar: But would swamp gas be enough to sustain Bombadil's rocketboots long enough so his feet don't get soaked?
VardaValar1: He hops really high for escape velocity.
ArPharazonV: Fossil fuels? :-)
VardaValar1: Goldberry might be upset to hear herself being called a fossil.
ArPharazonV: Actually, might be able to make bio-gas from swamp materials. So swamp gas, but more intensively produced.
VardaValar1: Tom wears blue and yellow because he's such a Boy Scout, good guy.
Eonwe Valar: Hehe.
Eonwe Valar: I suspect the rocketboots wouldn't have enough fuel to keep themselves in the air for long, if they did have the thrust to lift him up, with only swamp gas.
VardaValar1: Puddle jumpers
AriehnV: hehe i just was thinking Tom loves leaping and hopping maybe the air currents he is causing from just jumping off the ground to fuel the ffire
VardaValar1: Inserts contain flubber.
ArPharazonV: Been a long time since I saw that movie.
VardaValar1: ^^
Eonwe Valar: Hehe
VardaValar1: For those readers who want to know, a puddle jumper is a small airplane.
VardaValar1: Gang, I may be in Arizona longer than planned, not sure yet how it's going to go. Was going to leave Thursday.
ArPharazonV: Is there a problem?
VardaValar1: As you know, Fangorn and I are visiting Eowyn and Faramir-(init) to see the grandbaby and help out.
VardaValar1: Yesterday Faramir fell from a ladder with the stuff he and Fangorn were taking off the wall coming with him and he hit the tile very hard.
ArPharazonV: Ouch.
Eonwe Valar: Ouch.
VardaValar1: He has a compound fracture near the ankle and a dislocated shoulder on the same side. Makes crutches a problem for the moment.
Eonwe Valar: I can feel his pain with the dislocated shoulder.
VardaValar1: You might have some suggestions for him, Eonwe?
VardaValar1: The ankle is being held together with a couple of metal plates. In good news it went back together correctly. Lost some cartilage though.
Eonwe Valar: Probably nothing the doctor hasn't already suggested, but I'd start with not rolling over in the night, hehe.
VardaValar1: Good plan!
ArPharazonV: Strap him to a chair?
Eonwe Valar: I tended to try propping myself up with more pillows behind me so I'd be in more of a reclined position and *hopefully* not be tempted to roll.
VardaValar1: They're giving him practice with a wheelchair, but one-handed may mean he'lll turn a lot of doughnuts.
VardaValar1: Good idea.
VardaValar1: He has a reclining chair waiting for him.
Eonwe Valar: My doctor had recommended a pillow under the arm to help put the arm in a more comfortable position while sleeping. That helped me too.
VardaValar1: Ahh, thanks for that too.
Eonwe Valar: Not a *thick* one, mind you, just one enough to help the arm be in a more comfortable postion.
VardaValar1: Makes sense.
Eonwe Valar: After that he can start doing stuff with it again, it's going to be all about getting strength back (carefully!) and getting his range of motion back (carefully!).
Eonwe Valar: Consult your physician, of course :} I trust the extent of the damage isn't too serious, but having been through a few dislocations, that's what I dealt with :}
VardaValar1: Helps hearing from someone who's been there.
Eonwe Valar: Referring specifically to the shoulder, of course. The ankle sounds like it's already gonna be alot to deal with.
VardaValar1: heh, maybe he needs metal plates around the shoulder too
VardaValar1: In other news, the baby is incredibly cute. He gained a pound so he's up to 6 pounds 14 ounces.
Eonwe Valar: :}
ArPharazonV: Ahh, the time of life where gaining weight is still cute.
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: hehe
AriehnV: bleh for Faramir .. give him hugs *gentle* from me and best wishes
VardaValar1: aww thanks for him
AriehnV: got pictures of the babe somehere?
VardaValar1: Facebook :-)
VardaValar1: Cute HTML, same one I mailed to you.
VardaValar1: /smackhead
VardaValar1: mt pardon
VardaValar1: on Facebook, here's a photo by Merry-(V) if you can see it:
VardaValar1: 73741825.1612935812&type=1&theater
ArPharazonV: Yes, visible even without a FB account.
VardaValar1: Woot!
Eonwe Valar: Heh, read that first as "photo of Merry-(V)" and was going to comment on how that doesn't look like him :}
VardaValar1: Maybe when he was younger. They're related. :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Cute baby :}
VardaValar1: ^^
VardaValar1: More shots of the baby if you go forward or back.
VardaValar1: Bets now being taken on if he's going to be a ginger like his dad. : )
Eonwe Valar: :}
VardaValar1: No money involved, possible brownies.
VardaValar1: Oh, the black T-shirt I'm wearing is a gift from Sauron. Says Mad Scientists Local 42
VardaValar1: In other news, today is Merry-(V)'s birthday. :-)
Eonwe Valar: Happy Birthday to Merry :}
ArPharazonV: Happy birthday!
VardaValar1: Baby's waking up and I'm on call. Have a great evening/morning!
ArPharazonV: Namarie!
Eonwe Valar: Take care :}
Eonwe Valar: On our previous query re epoch stones from the Southsea pirates on the ship: After killing approx 20 for my quest on Ranelus, with the Epoch Stone quest also in my log, None dropped, but I'm not sure if that's enough of a sample size to say 100%. Auros goes through easier and faster, heh.
AriehnV: Namarie
AriehnV: good night :and namaie you three four and ahalf :-)
VardaValar1: Namarie :-)
AriehnV has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Sleep well Arien :}
ArPharazonV: Namarie, Arien!
VardaValar1 has left the room.
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, didn't realize I'd been in Gates of Retribution LFR with my Worgen yet.
ArPharazonV: What raid was that?
Eonwe Valar: Part 2 of Siege of Orgrimmar.
ArPharazonV: Ah. Entering the city.
Eonwe Valar: Aye. Galakras through Nazgrim.
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