Valar Guild

December 9, 2012 Sunday Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5)
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Transcript work by
Eonwe and Varda.

Attending: (5)
    Ariehn V, ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar (presiding), fladrifv, VardaValar1

Meeting begins
    (see After-meeting) Games Site completely rebuilt
    Trivia question: What are the names of Frodo's parents and where are they when we first meet Frodo?
    More Tolkien chat.
    Much code-work
    Games Site launches.
Invitation result for buddy ArPharazonV : A session already exists with this buddy. 3:59 pm
ArPharazonV (ArPharazonV) has entered the room. 3:59 pm
Eonwe Valar has entered the room. 3:59 pm
Eonwe Valar (3:59:26 PM): Heya.
fladrifv has entered the room. 3:59 pm
ArPharazonV (3:59:32 PM): Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (3:59:36 PM): Heya Fladrif.
fladrifv (3:59:44 PM): Aiya
Eonwe Valar (4:02:55 PM): A couple more minutes then we'll begin.
Ariehn V (AriehnV) has entered the room. 4:06 pm
Ariehn V (4:06:43 PM): aiya all :-)
ArPharazonV (4:06:48 PM): Aiya!
Eonwe Valar (4:06:51 PM): Heya Arien.
Ariehn V (4:07:02 PM): how are things?
Eonwe Valar (4:08:56 PM): Pretty good.
Eonwe Valar (4:09:21 PM): Trying to finish up some stuff, but now it's time for the meeting, so time to get that started. :}

Eonwe Valar (4:09:46 PM): Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar (4:09:50 PM): Membership:
Eonwe Valar (4:09:59 PM): Four of us here. :}
Eonwe Valar (4:10:14 PM): Any other Membership news?
Ariehn V (4:10:25 PM): I am on vacation this week :-)
Eonwe Valar (4:10:30 PM): Congrats :}
ArPharazonV (4:10:49 PM): Aiming to meet up with Fladrif in a few weeks for a computer overhaul, but we'll see how it goes :)
Ariehn V (4:11:14 PM): cool , good luck with that
Eonwe Valar (4:11:35 PM): Cool Phar :}

Eonwe Valar (4:11:50 PM): Web:
Eonwe Valar (4:12:04 PM): I'll have something soon, hopefully :} [Note: see After-meeting]

Eonwe Valar (4:12:15 PM): Gaming:
Eonwe Valar (4:12:45 PM): WoW:
Eonwe Valar (4:12:51 PM): Feast of Winterveil begins at the end of the week.
ArPharazonV (4:13:56 PM): That time again already? Guess it's time for another coal elemental pet hunt :)
Eonwe Valar (4:14:10 PM): Lothar: My Worgen Rogue Ranelus made it to 90. Didn't take more than 5 days, hehe.
Eonwe Valar (4:14:15 PM): hehe

Eonwe Valar (4:15:11 PM): LotRO:
Eonwe Valar (4:15:48 PM): Varda and I got some skimirhses in Monday night. Not sure about any other runs, but alot are probably focusing on the dailies rebuilding a town called Hytbold.
Eonwe Valar (4:15:54 PM): *skirmishes
Ariehn V (4:16:10 PM): my priest has made it to 90 too and thus completed my "Dynamic Duo" :-)  [WoW]
Eonwe Valar (4:16:22 PM): Congrats :}
Eonwe Valar (4:16:48 PM): Any other gaming news?
ArPharazonV (4:17:25 PM): Yup
Ariehn V (4:17:34 PM): a short note
ArPharazonV (4:17:41 PM): Arien can go first.
Eonwe Valar (4:17:48 PM): OK, GO ahead Arien.
Ariehn V (4:18:38 PM): its Lotro :-) My thanks to Ioreth who helped my Guardian with some groupquests in the Misty Mountains and the neighbouring area bordering Rivendell .. ah yes the Trollshaws
Ariehn V (4:19:20 PM): we got stuck with the three Giant elite masters but we will hopefully return to that next week some point
Ariehn V (4:19:29 PM): thats it :-)
Eonwe Valar (4:20:04 PM): :}
Eonwe Valar (4:20:23 PM): Glad you're able to cross paths with some of us in LotRO :}
ArPharazonV (4:20:38 PM): Aye, that must be hard, with the timezones.
Eonwe Valar (4:20:59 PM): OK Phar, your turn.

ArPharazonV (4:21:14 PM): Well,b esides the usual WoWing and flashgaming, there's some MLP Online news.
ArPharazonV (4:22:47 PM): Not good news, however; it's been officially terminated. Someone reported it to Hasbro, the owners of MLP, and despite it being a non-profit game, the use of trademarked names and characters and art, because of US copyright laws, forced Hasbro to defend their copyright or lose it. So MLP Online had to be cancelled, even though Hasbro apparently didn't really want to.
ArPharazonV (4:23:54 PM): What this means for other fangames in progress is not clear; though the trademark use seems to have been heaviest in this game from what I can tell, including its name. There's good hope for other games; one of them even deliberately avoids putting in characters from the show to avoid this kind of trouble.
Ariehn V (4:25:09 PM): ah thats a shame :-(
ArPharazonV (4:25:27 PM): The group that made MLP Online is no longer allowed to continue the game with further episodes, nor can it publically distribute the first finished episode; but if it's already downloaded you can still keep it. And since episode 1 was already downloadable in a pretty good state before all this, it's still a nice game to play, even though it's no longer officially supported, and only a small part of the story.
Ariehn V (4:25:35 PM): i really liked the little pony reenactment of LotrO
ArPharazonV (4:26:13 PM): Legends of Equestria is still going, Arien, which is more of an MMO type like WoW or LotRO, and that's the one that avoids using official characters.
ArPharazonV (4:26:20 PM): So we might still have something like that :)
Ariehn V (4:26:40 PM): :-)
ArPharazonV (4:26:44 PM): Anyway,
ArPharazonV (4:28:00 PM): the group that made MLP has already announced plans to tell us the story they had planned, and they're continuing as a sort of studio, and already have an awsome (or so they're told) project in mind that they'll be announcing somewhere over the next week; even if it's not pony-related, it will still be something to look out for, because MLP Online was very well made.
ArPharazonV (4:28:56 PM): So if you're interested, look out for.. what's the new name, looking it up...
ArPharazonV (4:29:09 PM): Starlight Studios.
ArPharazonV (4:29:25 PM): Oh, and I see it *is*  pony-related, though they're not telling us anything else.
ArPharazonV (4:30:13 PM): They're aiming for completion on that before the next Bronycon in 2013, which is a late summer convention, so we won't have to wait all that long this time, if all goes well. I'll let you know when there's more news for that :)
Eonwe Valar (4:31:01 PM): OK :}
ArPharazonV (4:31:02 PM): And that's my news!
Eonwe Valar (4:31:09 PM): Thanks :}

Eonwe Valar (4:31:41 PM): Tolkien:
Eonwe Valar (4:31:52 PM): Anyone have a topic they'd like to discuss?
Eonwe Valar (4:35:19 PM): OK, a trivia question then :}
Ariehn V (4:36:38 PM): oki do
Eonwe Valar (4:36:38 PM): What are the names of Frodo's parents and where are they when we first meet Frodo?
ArPharazonV (4:38:04 PM): Hmm. Can't remember their names as yet, maybe with a bit of thought; but if I remember right we don't meet Frodo until around his 33rd birthday party, at which point they're already dead.
ArPharazonV (4:38:27 PM): Ah! Frodo son of Drogo. Can't remember his mother.
Ariehn V (4:39:21 PM): Primula Brandibock and .. Drogo Baginns
Ariehn V (4:39:52 PM): and dead i think at the point when we first meet Frodo
Ariehn V (4:40:02 PM): drowne boating or something
Eonwe Valar (4:40:37 PM): Drogo Baggins and Primula Brandybuck are correct. They died in a boating accident, also correct :}
Eonwe Valar (4:40:55 PM): What body of water was this boating accident on?
Ariehn V (4:41:11 PM): i had to look up the fathers name to be honest butr i remembered the mother ^^
Ariehn V (4:41:28 PM): Brandiwyne River i believe
Eonwe Valar (4:41:28 PM): Well then between you and Phar you still got it right, hehe.
Eonwe Valar (4:42:03 PM): The Brandywine River is also correct.
ArPharazonV (4:42:04 PM): Yep, Baranduin. Brandywine.
Eonwe Valar (4:43:25 PM): OK, my trivia question is answered :}
Eonwe Valar (4:43:48 PM): *Bangs Gavel*
Ariehn V (4:44:07 PM): where do you find the material for your gavel?

Eonwe Valar (4:44:15 PM): Aftermeeting. Feel free to go about whatever you need to do, chat, etc., whiel I try to finish what I hope will be completely finished tonight :}
Ariehn V (4:44:15 PM): and which was the old name :)?
Eonwe Valar (4:44:31 PM): The Pelori :}
Ariehn V (4:45:00 PM): :-D the surrounding mountains if i remember right?
Eonwe Valar (4:45:14 PM): The Pelori being the mountain range along the western border of Aman, aye.
Ariehn V (4:45:40 PM): cool :-) something sticks pfft from the silmaril
Eonwe Valar (4:45:44 PM): :}
ArPharazonV (4:46:27 PM): Pelori were on the western border?
Eonwe Valar (4:47:26 PM): Er, eastern border. I thought that sounded wrong, but I was envisioning the map backwards.
ArPharazonV (4:47:44 PM): Hah.
Eonwe Valar (4:47:56 PM): Or at least Aman on the wrong side as compared to Middle-Earth.
ArPharazonV (4:49:04 PM): I don't recall the Elves sailing east ;)
Ariehn V (4:49:38 PM): hehe aye indeed
Eonwe Valar (4:51:00 PM): Sure they did :}
Eonwe Valar (4:51:09 PM): The Noldor sailed east in the First Age :}
ArPharazonV (4:51:28 PM): Eh, just Feanor and his host. Though those would be Noldor.
Ariehn V (4:51:40 PM): ah true yes
Eonwe Valar (4:51:57 PM): Technically the Teleri did too at the end of the First Age for the War of Wrath, but they didn't get off their ships :}
ArPharazonV (4:52:29 PM): My people sailed East.
ArPharazonV (4:52:35 PM): And West a bit later.
Eonwe Valar (4:53:24 PM): The Vanyar were also there for the War of Wrath, so the Calaquendi in total had sailed east at least once, hehe.
ArPharazonV (4:54:36 PM): Oh, wait, we were just talking Elves. My bad.

Ariehn V (AriehnV) has left the room. 5:21 pm
VardaValar1 has entered the room. 5:31 pm
Eonwe Valar (5:31:57 PM): Heya Varda :}
ArPharazonV (5:32:03 PM): Aiya Varda!
VardaValar1 (5:32:04 PM): Aiya Ar-Pharazon, Eonwe, and Fladrif :-)
ArPharazonV (5:32:21 PM): Missed Arien by about.. 10 minutes?
VardaValar1 (5:32:47 PM): Belated hi, Arien
VardaValar1 (5:33:08 PM): Sorry, just got home. We even left early to try to make it back in time. Boy, that didn't work.
Eonwe Valar (5:33:43 PM): No worries :}
VardaValar1 (5:34:45 PM): Made it to After-meeting. :-)
VardaValar1 (5:34:57 PM): heh
Eonwe Valar (5:37:03 PM): :}

VardaValar1 (7:00:01 PM): Codefest
fladrifv has left the room. 7:11 pm
Eonwe Valar (7:12:05 PM): OK guys, the Games Site is coming down for a bit :}
ArPharazonV (7:12:17 PM): Replacing it with the beta?
ArPharazonV (ArPharazonV) has left the room. 8:33 pm
Eonwe Valar (8:42:47 PM): I wouldn't call what I just uploaded a "beta" :}
Eonwe Valar (8:42:56 PM): The Games Site is now available once again :}
Eonwe Valar (8:43:00 PM): Enjoy :}
VardaValar1 (8:43:01 PM): Huzzah!
VardaValar1 (8:43:30 PM): Phar crashed and is trying to get back in. We have no saved transcript unless you have one.
VardaValar1 (8:44:17 PM): This is big news, thanks, Eonwe!
Eonwe Valar (8:45:48 PM): Among the changes, there's now a page giving some basic general info useful to WoW Players. I'd be glad to put up a similar one for LotRO if there's anyone on LotRO who would like to compile the info.
Eonwe Valar (8:46:51 PM): That goes for other games too, if anyone has tips they'd like put up for things like Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, etc.