Valar Guild

April 18, 2011 Sunday Meeting

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Transcript work by
Ar-Pharazon and Varda.

Attending: (8)
    AriehnV, ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar (presiding), Fladrifv, Gilraen-(V)/Iryenth, Glorfindel VG, Indis-(V)/karakedi25, VardaValar1

    Euro-WoW guild hacked
Meeting begins
    Movie: The Hobbit
    Tolkien Game: Match the starting letter of one name to the last letter of the previous name. Character names of people or animals. Place names.
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AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: Aiya Cala :-)
ArPharazonV: Aiya!
ArPharazonV: Our guildbank got robbed last week, we discovered today. Looks like one of our members got hacked.
ArPharazonV: Talked to GM, items will be returned to me in the mail, and I've isolated and restricted the hacked characters.
AriehnV: bleh :-(
AriehnV: i didnt notice at all
ArPharazonV: Well, the tabs aren't exactly empty. He left all the cheaper and more useless stuff.
AriehnV: that is i had thought it was a lot emptier than what it was when i did look but i thought you had cleared it up
Eonwe Valar has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya.
ArPharazonV: But looks like things are going to end well, just a shame about the person who got hacked. We've no way to contact him, though Blizzard was going to send him an email.
AriehnV: Gah .. Aiya Eonwe
ArPharazonV: Aiya
ArPharazonV: And yeah, it was Trasric who noticed it in the logs, I think.
Fladrifv has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: All taken out by the same character.
AriehnV: ah right well spotted by Tras indeed
AriehnV: i think i had put in some gems but else not much , maybe some lower level stuff some blues there
ArPharazonV: 'twas mostly the blues that got nicked.
AriehnV: ah right doesnt surprise me .. thats always a bit distressing when that happens .. happened to my guilds as well
ArPharazonV: And a few stashes of volatile element stuff.
ArPharazonV: Also not surprising.
AriehnV: thats why i started restricting guild bank access at the time
AriehnV: yup not surprising that either , they sell for a horrendous amount
ArPharazonV: Well, we've got a rank "inactive" which I use for characters that haven't logged in in a few months. They have no bank access.
AriehnV: aiya Flad
ArPharazonV: But it doesn't work when the person gets hacked not so long after his last login.
AriehnV: right .. there was this guy who was inactive for seven years and came back
AriehnV: is he stil there ?
ArPharazonV: Yeah, but he remembered enough names etc to convince me he was not sold or hacked :-)
ArPharazonV: It was someone else though.
AriehnV: right .. but i am glad blizzard are on it they are usually very good in restoring items
Eonwe Valar: We'll be starting the meeting momentarily.
AriehnV: my own sad experience
ArPharazonV: Aye. They keep good records of stuff.
Eonwe Valar: OK, let's begin.

Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
Eonwe Valar: Varda is having guests today, so you're all stuck with me :}
Eonwe Valar: For those of you with Facebook, we give you Eowyn-(V)'s and Schlep's wedding. (Click Go to underneath the logo.)
karakedi25 has entered the room.
karakedi25: aiay
Eonwe Valar: "We" being Varda, as I just copy-pasted that from the News Page.
karakedi25: *aiya that is
Eonwe Valar: Heya Indis.
ArPharazonV: Ah, doesn't work for me, I don't have an account :-)
ArPharazonV: I bet there's good pictures though ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Any other Membership News>
Eonwe Valar: ?
karakedi25: None from me at this time.

Eonwe Valar: OK, then on to Web:
Glorfindel VG has entered the room.
Glorfindel VG: Aiya!
Eonwe Valar: New stories from Jay of Jasgalen:
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: "The Healer's Path". A series of six drabbles following Estel's journey to becoming a healer. Estel was the name by which Aragorn was known growing up in Rivendell.

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
Eonwe Valar: WoW:
Eonwe Valar: Sunday Run:
Eonwe Valar: Participants: Arien, Eonwë, Varda, Elwing, Glorfindel, Sauron
Eonwe Valar: Tonight, we hopped on some of our lower level characters to runs some dungeons with Arien's and Glorfindel's characters. Our target of choice was the Scarlet Monastary.
Eonwe Valar: The first two wings were run by Eonwë, Arien, Varda, Elwing, and Glorfindel, and went smoothly. Arien then had to call it a night, and Sauron took her place for the next two wings.
Eonwe Valar: After we finished Scarlet Monastary, I had to call it a night. There was talk of hitting another dungeon, but as no one added anything to the report on the Forum I don't know where they went :}
Eonwe Valar: Glorfindel, did you all end up going anywhere else last Sunday?
Glorfindel VG: No, I called it a night too
Eonwe Valar: ok, thanks.
Glorfindel VG: Just gathered alot of exp and gold thanks to Sauron
Eonwe Valar: Friday Run:
Eonwe Valar: My router died Thursday night and I didn't have a chance to get a new one up and running before the guild run, so I missed it. I hope everyone had fun though.
Eonwe Valar: Don't suppose you know of anything we did on Friday, Glorfindel?
Glorfindel VG: Not sure anything was organized
Eonwe Valar: ok.
[Note: Friday WoW: Deepholme quests were run together by Elwing, Fangorn, and Varda.]

Eonwe Valar: LotRO:
Eonwe Valar: Monday Run:
Eonwe Valar: Ost Dunhoth: Level 65 quest for 100 kills for 20 Medallions of the North-men completed, for the highest level barter.
Eonwe Valar: Participants: Galdor (hunter Andwe), Gorlim (minstrel Aeronwy), Hurin (captain Hiurred), Maedhros (champion Galadhalion), Tulkas (hunter Astald), and Varda (hunter Fainan).
Eonwe Valar: Class questing aid in Angmar's Western Malenhad. We killed turtles for the class items then did the quests "Blood Wing" and "Ancient Lair".
Eonwe Valar: Participants: Celeborn (53 champion Kebb), Galdor (46 burglar), Gildor (43 captain), Nimrodel (as hunter Ardisian at first to help with travel, then as 60 Lore-master Wildwyn), Pippin (54 lore-master Penthagamir), and Varda (minstrel Tinwetari).
Eonwe Valar: Wednesday Run:
Eonwe Valar: Moria instance: Grand Stairs. We completed this all the way through quickly on hard mode, collecting medallions, quests, and deeds.
Eonwe Valar: Participants: Galdor (hunter Andwe), Indis (lore-master Alasse), Maedhros (champion Galadhalion), Nimrodel (champion CynthiaJane), Pippin (warden Illiardo), and Varda (minstrel Tinwetari).
Eonwe Valar: Moria instance: Fil Gashan. We got to General Talug but did not quite beat him, and some of our group needed to leave, but we collected medallions. After Talug, we went back over the rest of the area and completed quests and added to our deeds.
Eonwe Valar: Participants: the same as above except that Indis left (plenty of warning) and Gildor took her place as rune-keeper Lirafalla.
AriehnV: quested my hunter t0 38 and just escorted Dori in Book III chapter 4
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :}
AriehnV: and aye i got the Mirkwood quests through achievement points . err turbine points in the store
Eonwe Valar: A bit early for the Mirkwood quests at lvl 38? Or do you already have another character at a higher level?
AriehnV: nope not yet no lol but they are available in future
Eonwe Valar: ok :}
AriehnV: i ll head to Imladris next after these bookquests
AriehnV: i ve got the travel points up there

Eonwe Valar: Is there any other gaming news before we move to Tolkien? Now would also be a good time to whisper me Tolkien topics.
ArPharazonV: Well, I'd like to mention one bit of Tolkien, what was linked on the news on our site, before we start.
Eonwe Valar: I was going to do that once we move into Tolkien :}
ArPharazonV: The Facebook link to Peter Jackson's video about the production of The Hobbit.
ArPharazonV: Ah :-)
Eonwe Valar: But now I'll let you do it once we move into Tolkien :}
ArPharazonV: Well, I just want to say, when he updates with more videos, I'd like to hear it from the Guild, because I'm not one to check Facebook things much :-)
Eonwe Valar: And since there's apparently no other gaming news...
ArPharazonV: You can say everything else ;-)
Eonwe Valar: Tolkien Time :}
Eonwe Valar: Now that you've got everyone at the edge of their seats, you're going to leave them hanging? :}
ArPharazonV: Hey, you wanted to talk about it, go ahead :-)
Eonwe Valar: OK, as Phar's already said, we've got a link to Pter Jackson's Facebook page, with his first video blog on the Hobbit.
Eonwe Valar: Peter Jackson: that should be his page I guess.
Eonwe Valar: video blog: that should be directly to the blog
ArPharazonV: Must say, his appearance surprised me, almost didn't recognize him.
ArPharazonV: He certainly lost weight, and his voice seems different too.
Eonwe Valar: The blog is also available at a different location.
Eonwe Valar: Escapist Magazine:
Eonwe Valar: Link provided by one of Varda's old D&D buddies, Adamantium Altgelt.
Eonwe Valar: He's had the weight off for a while, I think since he was working on King Kong. I remember seeing him around then and being surprised.
ArPharazonV: Hehe.
Glorfindel VG: He's come a long way from the drunken Breelander
ArPharazonV: And the pirate slain by Legolas :-)
ArPharazonV: sorry, "corsair"
Glorfindel VG: Aye
Eonwe Valar: OK, last chance to suggest a topic, or I pick one :}
Eonwe Valar: OK, time to spin the Wheel of Tolkien then :}
Eonwe Valar: *brings out giant wheel, gives it a good hard spin*
ArPharazonV: "Balrog-wings"... *spins again*
Eonwe Valar: Wheel of Tolkien, turn turn turn, tell us the lesson that we should learn.
Glorfindel VG: lol
Eonwe Valar: *the wheel slows...*
Eonwe Valar: *the wheel stops at...*
Eonwe Valar: Tolkien Game: Match the starting letter of one name to the last letter of the previous name.
Eonwe Valar: Don't re-use names :}
Eonwe Valar: Who all is actually here? :}
ArPharazonV: I'm here.
Glorfindel VG: I am
karakedi25: I am sort of
Eonwe Valar: Are you hear enough to join in on the fun?
Eonwe Valar: hear= here
karakedi25: probably
ArPharazonV: Getting carried away by a piano-version from a Touhou-theme, but if I pull myself together I'm here enough :-)
Eonwe Valar: ok :}
ArPharazonV: if you want to hear ;-)
Eonwe Valar: So I guess there's four of us.
Eonwe Valar: We'll go in channel-list order, so Phar, Eonwe, Glorfindel, Indis.
AriehnV: nice blog
AriehnV: just watched the video
ArPharazonV: So, I start?
Eonwe Valar: Arien, are you in for the game?
VardaValar1 has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Aiya Varda!
VardaValar1: Aiya :-)
Eonwe Valar: Heya Varda :}
karakedi25: aiya
VardaValar1: Hi from Fangorn and Elwing. We just got back to the house.
Eonwe Valar: You're in time for Tolkien :}
VardaValar1: Huzzah!
Eonwe Valar: We spun the Wheel of Tolkien and landed on a name game :} Match the first letter of a name to the last letter of the previous name.
Eonwe Valar: We're going in channel-list order. Since Arien hasn't responded, go ahead and start, Phar.
VardaValar1: Maybe we need to see who's available by everyone saying Aye who's here?
VardaValar1: Aye!
karakedi25: aye
Eonwe Valar: I already did that :}
AriehnV: aye ^^
Glorfindel VG: aye yae
ArPharazonV: Aye
Eonwe Valar: Except Arien didn't answer either time I asked if she was joining us :}
AriehnV: got caught up in this piano thing ^^
AriehnV: its really wow
AriehnV: really nice
Eonwe Valar: So are you in for the game then?
AriehnV: aye
Eonwe Valar: OK, you begin :}
AriehnV: Aragorn
ArPharazonV: Hmm, that'd be me, eh?
ArPharazonV: Nori
Eonwe Valar: Idril
Glorfindel VG: legolas
karakedi25: me, right?
VardaValar1: Aye
AriehnV: aye
Eonwe Valar: Indis, yes.
karakedi25: samwise
VardaValar1: Elrohir
VardaValar1: (End round 1. Yay us!)
AriehnV: Roheryb
AriehnV: roheryn
ArPharazonV: Eck, how hard can it be to find a second name with n...
ArPharazonV: just character names?
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, I could say yes... :}
AriehnV: but there is none with R
VardaValar1: Yes! hehe
Eonwe Valar: Actually, yes. Let's do one set of rounds with only character names. Then we'll try a set with only place names :}
ArPharazonV: Nimrodel.
VardaValar1: Would the horse's name be considered a character name? Just to keep straight on the rules.
Eonwe Valar: Since Arien's already used one, yes, let's count animal names.
VardaValar1: okies
Eonwe Valar: Lindir
Eonwe Valar: Glorfindel's turn.
Glorfindel VG: thinking..
Glorfindel VG: radagast
karakedi25: tom b
VardaValar1: Lungorthin
AriehnV: Nienor
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, I have one, but if I use it alone, we're done... :}
ArPharazonV: Ah, my turn.
Eonwe Valar: Aye Phar :}
ArPharazonV: Thinking...
ArPharazonV: You mean Rory? :-)
Eonwe Valar: That would be the one, hehe.
ArPharazonV: Nah, you can manage it. Rory Brandybuck.
VardaValar1: Y on the end! ;-)
ArPharazonV: Fair enough :-)
Eonwe Valar: So you're going with Rory Brandybuck?
ArPharazonV: Yeah, I could just say Rory but I'll make it a bit less hard.
Eonwe Valar: Kalimac
VardaValar1: (Glorfindel's turn)
AriehnV: (that is the elemental language lol .. who is that in tolkien ?
Glorfindel VG: celibrimbor
ArPharazonV: You're thinking of Kalimag, Arien :-)
Eonwe Valar: Kalimac is Meriadoc :}
VardaValar1: Kalimac is correct.
karakedi25: yes, hobbit native name
AriehnV: ah nice cool
Eonwe Valar: Glorfindel's name was Celebrimbor.
Glorfindel VG: another R,unfortunately :-X
karakedi25: yes, thinking
ArPharazonV: Tolkien doesn't lend himself for this game well. Too many names ending in I or R and not enough beginning with them.
Eonwe Valar: It lends itself to having a stopping point :}
karakedi25: Rohir
karakedi25: (not a personal name, but a kind of name)
Eonwe Valar: Has to be a character name.
Eonwe Valar: It can be an alternate name for someone we've named, so long as the name itself hasn't been used.
karakedi25: how could I forget? Rumil
VardaValar1: I'll scroll back but thought we used it.
Eonwe Valar: We haven't used Rumil.
AriehnV: Rumil
Eonwe Valar: I've been writing them down.
VardaValar1: o good!
VardaValar1: Leaflock
AriehnV: i ve found at leeast three other names with R actually ;-)
AriehnV: using the glossary in the sil
VardaValar1: I can *find* them, it's thinking of them.
Eonwe Valar: Aye, we should be thinking of these off the top of our heads.
VardaValar1: We have an alphabetical online Encyclopedia on our Tolkien Site. : )
AriehnV: right
AriehnV: so no books
VardaValar1: and no online or I'd be in high cotton right now. ;-)
VardaValar1: Did we want to switch to place names now? That's going to be harder.
Eonwe Valar: You can, however, draw names from LotR, Hobbit, UT, Sil, or HoME, so long as I can grab one of them and find that name in the index if I have to.
Eonwe Valar: If you remember it from one of those, you can use it.
Iryenth has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: Look, a new I
VardaValar1: Aiya Gilraen. :-)
AriehnV: hello aiya Gilraen :-)
ArPharazonV: Unless that's.. not a Tolkien name. I'm not even sure at this point.
Eonwe Valar: I don't recall it being one, Phar.
Iryenth: Aiya folks
Eonwe Valar: And heya Gilraen :}
VardaValar1: Match the first letter of a name to the last letter of the previous name.
karakedi25: what's not a Tolkien name?
Eonwe Valar: Iryenth
Iryenth: nope
Eonwe Valar: See :}
Eonwe Valar: Interested in joining our game, Gilraen?
Eonwe Valar: No thoughts on a "K" name, Arien?
Iryenth: I think I'll just watch you all think ;-)
VardaValar1: (My last name was Leaflock)
Eonwe Valar: We should probably call time. If it takes this long to think of a name, we're about as far as we can go.
ArPharazonV: Could do a round of placenames then.
AriehnV: K .. just the German name for Shelob which is Kankra ^^
Glorfindel VG: maybe we shouldnt go in any order
Eonwe Valar: hehe
VardaValar1: Or we can pass
VardaValar1: Lose a point for passing, until no one can answer.
Eonwe Valar: Well the order is so we're not stepping on eachother's names.
VardaValar1: but since we're not counting points, the points don't matter. ;-)
Eonwe Valar: It gets harder to maintain a list if we're all just throwing names out there.
Glorfindel VG: aye
VardaValar1: So Arien can pass, and Phar can have a go.
VardaValar1: But we need to say, Pass.
Eonwe Valar: If we allow passes, we can keep going indefeinitely, until everyone's passing to one person :}
Eonwe Valar: *indefinitely
VardaValar1: If we all pass, then the round is over and we switch.
VardaValar1: Eonwe will have to give names to himself? : )

VardaValar1: okies. So, place names now?
ArPharazonV: Starting with Arien again?
Eonwe Valar: Aye. We made it 3 rounds, 18 names for this first one. I'd say that's good.
Eonwe Valar: Set 2: Place Names.
Eonwe Valar: Same order as before, same rules as before.
AriehnV: Lothlorien
ArPharazonV: Well, at the risk of going for the obvious..
ArPharazonV: Numenor
Eonwe Valar: At the risk of going for the even more obvious....
Eonwe Valar: Rivendell.
Glorfindel VG: lothlorien
Glorfindel VG: oops
Glorfindel VG: Landrovol
Glorfindel VG: heh
VardaValar1: Landroval is an eagle's name, good try.
AriehnV: Lothlorien we had before
Glorfindel VG: Lossanarch
karakedi25: Celebdil
karakedi25: oops
karakedi25: unless Iryenth is still observing
Eonwe Valar: She is, but Celebdil is still wrong :}
ArPharazonV: You're missing an h there :-)
VardaValar1: Aye, she is sitting out. But need an h.
karakedi25: consider it included
Eonwe Valar: Celebdil doesn't have an h :}
Eonwe Valar: Lossarnach ends with an h, so Celebdil is invalid.
karakedi25: ah right
karakedi25: helcaraxe
VardaValar1: East Farthing
VardaValar1: (Is that allowed)
Glorfindel VG: Hobbits would think so
VardaValar1: hehe
Eonwe Valar: It's a place ;}
AriehnV: Gondor
VardaValar1: How about another I can give?
VardaValar1: or not, heh.
AriehnV: I am a hobbit ;-)
VardaValar1: Woot!
ArPharazonV: Rohan
Eonwe Valar: North Farthing :}
VardaValar1: lol
Glorfindel VG: Gladden Fields
Eonwe Valar: I need to go afk for a moment, so work around me till I get back.
VardaValar1: (S to you, Indis)
karakedi25: sammath naur
VardaValar1: Did we use Rohan yet?
VardaValar1: nope, yay!
ArPharazonV: We did.
VardaValar1: o, well, Rhosgobel.
VardaValar1: Phar used it, yep.
VardaValar1: (L to Arien)
AriehnV: Lindon
ArPharazonV: Nargothrond
Glorfindel VG: Dunland
karakedi25: Dor Lomin
VardaValar1: hmm
VardaValar1: Nanduhirion
VardaValar1: (sweat rolls)
AriehnV: Nen Girith ..
AriehnV: if i think right
ArPharazonV: *rummages through brain*
VardaValar1: Aye, you got it. I had to look it up.
VardaValar1: /bow
AriehnV: :-)
ArPharazonV: Himring
AriehnV: strange what sticks in the subconcious
VardaValar1: Aye, Arien. : )
VardaValar1: (G to Glorfindel)
Glorfindel VG: Gorgoroth
VardaValar1: (H to Indis)
karakedi25: Hornberg
karakedi25: (or burg)
VardaValar1: (G to me)
VardaValar1: Glaistig? um
VardaValar1: Not sure what that is. So, Girdle of Melian.
VardaValar1: (o right, goat like creature in folklore/myth, pardon)
karakedi25: don't remember ever seeing that word in the Canon
VardaValar1: Glaistig is not Tolkien, so I subbed in Girdle of Melian.
VardaValar1: It was in some research I did last year and bubbled up for the letter G. Apologies.
karakedi25: no worries
VardaValar1: (N to Arien)
Eonwe Valar: Back. My apologies, was unavoidable.
VardaValar1: You're safe. Arien's turn. : )
AriehnV: Nargothrond
VardaValar1: sorry. ArPharazon-V: Nargothrond
ArPharazonV: Try again!
Eonwe Valar: If we make it through this round, let's make it the last one. It's about time for the Sunday run in WoW.
VardaValar1: (Fangorn, Elwing, and Eowyn say hi from WoW)
ArPharazonV: Hi!
VardaValar1: (you got a duet of Hiiii! back)
ArPharazonV: :D
Fladrifv: Aiya
karakedi25: aiya!
Fladrifv: tad late I fear
VardaValar1: Aiya entish one. : )
ArPharazonV: Just a bit.
Fladrifv: grew a bit treeish
VardaValar1: (N to Arien)
Eonwe Valar: Seems we're stuck on this one, so we should probably call time :}
Eonwe Valar: We made it through 4 rounds though.
Glorfindel VG: cheers
ArPharazonV: Very nice.
VardaValar1: Nan Curunir, in honor of Glorfindel-(V)'s music. : )
Eonwe Valar: :}
Glorfindel VG: Good one
ArPharazonV: how about the river Narog? :-)

Eonwe Valar: OK,.. *bangs gavel* Aftermeeting :}
VardaValar1: Nice :-)
Glorfindel VG: Or Numenor =-O
ArPharazonV: Already said!
Eonwe Valar: Numenor was used by Phar in round 1 :}
Glorfindel VG: Nurn then
VardaValar1: See you there. Glor, you're always welcome in WoW. : )
VardaValar1: Nob has been in another WoW server lately for raiding and is working nights.
Glorfindel VG: I'll be playing in a bit
VardaValar1: Arien is welcome too, but probably should sleep instead. : )
VardaValar1: Cool : )
VardaValar1: Glorfindel and Arien might be able to run together.
AriehnV: Glor if you want to pug one dungeon with me yer welcome i can heal
VardaValar1: or duo quest?
Glorfindel VG: Thanks for the offer. I may not be logging in for an hour or so though
AriehnV: all right , i ll call it for the night then and keep digging with my rp elf hunter on ad .. welll its a belf in fact but i ll try to get to forty this week or a bit further
Glorfindel VG: I'll try not to jump too far ahead of you :-P
AriehnV: : - )
VardaValar1: Go ahead and jump ahead of her. She mostly plays WoW Europe. : )
Glorfindel VG: I hit the big 4 0 yesterday
AriehnV: grats :-D
ArPharazonV: Congrats :-)
VardaValar1: Grats!
Glorfindel VG: Thanks
Glorfindel VG: I really really can't wait to get a flying mount!
Glorfindel VG: The Warcraft World is really magnificent
Glorfindel VG: I want to freely soar the skies
ArPharazonV: Don't fly into Deathwing, he won't like it :-)
Glorfindel VG: Good advice!
VardaValar1: :-)
Glorfindel VG: I'm off for dinner. I'll be back a bit later for wow. Namarie :-)
Glorfindel VG has left the room.
AriehnV: it gives an achievement tho :-)
AriehnV: made it on the mage i think the others escaped so far
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ArPharazonV: wooh, disconnected there
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