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My main's alliance got shut down in the first qualifying round. Came
back for a good win in second round but it wasn't enough to make it to
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pallandovalar: Pallando's still kickin it trying to get talking to the locals. Apparently picked a bad area to mission in, but we'll see.
VardaValar1: Pardon, hit the wrong button.
pallandovalar: youtubes are..
pallandovalar: the latest trailer up is pretty awesome. "butterfly effect"
pallandovalar: it has as the main character one of the best ships in the game, the wolf (in my top 3)
pallandovalar: still have too much money, and plenty of time
pallandovalar: I just lost 2b in 2 days, so tossing a few tens to a new player won't hurt too much.
VardaValar1: Do you and Menel ever cross space to get together?
pallandovalar: On my main, I'd be shooting him. ;-)
pallandovalar: I've actually shot his alliance up a bit recently. ;-)
VardaValar1: We need to move to Tolkien before we lose Phar.
karakedi25: nothing more to say about lotro
VardaValar1: LotRO? We quested, crafted, grouped, and generally played hard. : )
karakedi25: lots of anticipation for the update/expansion later this year
VardaValar1: Aye, Mirkwood
karakedi25: new gimmicks for battles
VardaValar1: Lorien will be attacking Dol Guldur.
karakedi25: some added conveniences like not having to carry horses around in inventory :-)
VardaValar1: That was barely mentioned in the books, as it was far from the paths of the Hobbits, the battle.
ArPharazonV: I believe Battle for Middle-Earth 2
was based on those battles
karakedi25: that's right, so it gives the devs a bit of creative license
VardaValar1: Gandalf mentioned it and the battle near the Lonely Mountain as essential.
ArPharazonV: if any of you play/have played both games, let me know what the similarities are :-)
VardaValar1: They allowed Gondor to have a Queen, for one thing. : )
karakedi25: I expect we'll get into those too before we move south
VardaValar1: Eonwe has played both. I have not.
AriehnV: i levelled my runekeeper to 18 and ran with some people i met the great barrows tuesday night :-)
AriehnV: on the burglar of course
VardaValar1: Arien, congrats! : )
AriehnV: :-) thanks :-)
karakedi25: fwiw, I have a new character, a hunter now level 21
VardaValar1: Indis is leveling fast on that hunter. : )
VardaValar1: Crafting too.
karakedi25: fun to play, though I think my heart is still with the LM
VardaValar1: That is a fine class, very fun.
VardaValar1: Orome-Valar just came online in LotRO.
karakedi25: the more acceptable (from a lore point of view) of the two 'magic' classes
VardaValar1: People get very upset by the Rune-keeper, although words are supposed to have power, as are runes.
karakedi25: it's pretty marginal
karakedi25: (from a lore point of view)
ArPharazonV: Loremaster... I wonder if it has any similarity to the Diablo III... scribe, I think, which was shown on april 1st :-)
VardaValar1: A bit
VardaValar1: The rune-keeper is a lot of fun, anyway.
VardaValar1: If we get picky, there is no class that is exactly right with the lore.
karakedi25: lore-master is a pet class
VardaValar1: Light-oil on a hunter's arrows?
karakedi25: true, but at least most of the others are less 'magic'
VardaValar1: Orome-Valar says hi to everyone in AIM. : )
VardaValar1: I hear people say there is no magic in the fantasy world of Middle-earth, in the books. Comments?
karakedi25: that's not true, but it's limited
ArPharazonV: Interesting. Most magic does seem to have a more common explanation by the Elves, but magic seems to be present
karakedi25: there's sorcery (usually evil) and the ARt of the elves
ArPharazonV: is their magic in the Elvish rope, or is it just crafty.. craft?
ArPharazonV: what about the 3 rings?
VardaValar1: Galadriel became upset because she thought humans were saying her magic and Sauron's were the same thing.
ArPharazonV: the fact that the One Ring makes you invisible seems to be some sort of magic
VardaValar1: How indeed does Elvish rope glow and come unknotted at need?
karakedi25: certainly not composed of what we think of as natural processes, but of course...
ArPharazonV: Minas Morgul was the tower of Sorcery
VardaValar1: How does the light of Earendil enter water in a glass and be used as a weapon of light?
ArPharazonV: so was Sorcery really practiced by its newer inhabitants?
karakedi25: wasn't it Arthur C Clarke who said that very advanced technology looks like magic to those who don't have it?
ArPharazonV: indeed, Indis
VardaValar1: Gandalf mentions "hedge wizards".
ArPharazonV: well, not sure if he said it
VardaValar1: We agree with whomever said it. : )
ArPharazonV: Gandalf's fireworks, is there magic in them?
ArPharazonV: the firework turning into a dragon?
VardaValar1: Orome-Valar mentions Gandalfs words of power? naur an edraith ammen
ArPharazonV: his multi-colored smokerings? :-)
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Naugorome: Luthiens song that cast Melkor into sleep? [Note: quoted relays from folks in LotRO start with [Kinship] then show the person's screen name, Naugorome being a dwarf character run by Orome-(Valar).
VardaValar1: Trees that move and talk and carry grudges?
karakedi25: and what she did with her hair
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Naugorome: the disguises, werewolf and bat that Beren and luthien assumed?
ArPharazonV: oh, indeed
ArPharazonV: most of these things seem to go back to the Ainur
karakedi25: whether it's magic or not, it's certainly not something we can account for with our knowledge of natural science
ArPharazonV: or one with Ainur-blood, anyway
ArPharazonV: it is known that the Ainur had strange powers, whether we should call them magic is another question
VardaValar1: Creating the world with music?
VardaValar1: Bombadil singing an attacking tree to sleep?
VardaValar1: Elves talking to trees and waking them?
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Naugorome: the hidden dwarven doors that opened only to a secret word, or at a special time
VardaValar1: The battle over the door between the balrog and Gandalf?
VardaValar1: Athelas has its best effect only in the hands of the High King.
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Naugorome: the palantiri
ArPharazonV: the light of the Silmaril
VardaValar1: Orome-Valar is on a roll. : )
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Naugorome: the ability of the elven rings to maintain things unstained
VardaValar1: Containing the light of the trees in the Silmarils?
ArPharazonV: -rils, yes
VardaValar1: [Kinship] Naugorome: the ability of the one ring to make you invisibile
karakedi25: seems hard to imagine fantasy without something akin to magic
VardaValar1: If this was just a book about possible pre-history, it would not be a fantasy, just a mainstream book.
VardaValar1: It is a mythology, complete with strange things.
karakedi25: quite so
VardaValar1: Did anyone else wish to make more comments or start another subject?
ArPharazonV: I think I'll be off
VardaValar1: *bangs gavel*
VardaValar1: Namarie, Phar : )
karakedi25: how about the roleplay? Where does it stand?
ArPharazonV: saving and sending transcript
VardaValar1: It stands at people are leaving and we don't have Eonwe tonight. : )
VardaValar1: We had a discussion on it last meeting though.
AriehnV (5:33:36 PM): wooopsi [Note: times in Central Standard Daylight Savings Time. Add one hour for Eastern]
VardaValar1 (5:33:42 PM): Pardon the crash
karakedi25 (5:33:47 PM): wrong button again?
VardaValar1 (5:33:51 PM): We are pretty well done, I think?
karakedi25 (5:33:57 PM): looks that way
karakedi25 (5:34:02 PM): a quicker meeting than some
AriehnV (5:34:05 PM): did Phara pull you out, Varda?
VardaValar1 (5:34:08 PM): lol
AriehnV (5:34:18 PM): he pushed you
VardaValar1 (5:34:37 PM): I can't blame it on anyone else but myself. : )
VardaValar1 (5:35:02 PM): Playing in LotRO seems to have a button somewhere that is the one for falling out of AIM. : )
karakedi25 (5:35:20 PM): not for me, but it may depend on what you're doing
VardaValar1 (5:35:40 PM): Ok, I'm going to let you folks in Europe rest. : )
VardaValar1 (5:35:43 PM): Namarie all!
VardaValar1 (5:35:53 PM): I'll bother Indis in-game.
AriehnV (5:35:59 PM): grin i might have a quick pop in , else i have found out that the night before my days off is best for playing in there
VardaValar1 (5:36:21 PM): We always like having you in LotRO with us!
AriehnV (5:36:30 PM): then it doesnt matter if the morning gets early or the night long depends on how u see it ^^
VardaValar1 (5:36:37 PM): hehe
karakedi25 (5:36:44 PM): always happy to see you
AriehnV (5:37:08 PM): oki doki
see you around then Namarie
VardaValar1 (5:37:22 PM): See you in LotRO!
karakedi25 (5:37:24 PM): namarie
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karakedi25 (5:38:38 PM): so..looks as thought things are at an end here
karakedi25 (5:38:54 PM): and so I'll go back to fully concentrating on killing orcs for rep
karakedi25 (5:38:56 PM):
karakedi25 (5:39:04 PM): namarie!
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VardaValar1 (5:39:33 PM): Namarie Fladrif and Pallando!