Valar Guild

September 13, 2009 Meeting

5pm EST (GMT - 5); (GMT = 22:00?)
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Transcript work by: 
Ar-Pharazon (most of the actual transcript), Menelvagor (with times), and Varda (webwork)

Attending: (5)
    ArPharazonV, Eonwe Valar (presiding), fladrifv, Menelvagor Valar, pallandovalar

Meeting begins
Membership happenings:
        Argent Dawn
    Forum RP
    More Forum RP.

You have just entered room "valarguildmeetingplace."
fladrifv has entered the room.
Eonwe Valar: Heya.
Eonwe Valar: ok, I guess this is going to be a really quick meeting if it's just we three :}
Menelvagor Valar has entered the room.
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: Heya Menel.
Eonwe Valar: Ok, let's begin.

Eonwe Valar: Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo!
Menelvagor Valar: likewise mellon ^^
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Membership:
ArPharazonV: ouch, just wiped on an 11% Vezax
Eonwe Valar: Varda's out of town this week.
ArPharazonV: Aiya
Eonwe Valar: You'll get him :}
pallandovalar has entered the room.
ArPharazonV: 8% even
ArPharazonV: myeah, only second week on him
ArPharazonV: we're trying again on tuesday
Eonwe Valar: Any other Membership news?
fladrifv: Aiya
Menelvagor Valar: nice :-)
Menelvagor Valar: Aye.
Menelvagor Valar: Not sure whether I've shared this before, but I think I haven't.
Menelvagor Valar: Coming saturday I will be moving homes.
Eonwe Valar: Congrats :}
Menelvagor Valar: I don't have any clue yet as to my internet connection there, so I may be offline for several weeks.
Menelvagor Valar: Thanks.
Menelvagor Valar: For the first time in almost a decade, I have a prognosis of living in a single place for more than a year, which excites me just as much as the town I am moving to.
Eonwe Valar: Cool :}
AriehnV has entered the room.
AriehnV: aiya people
Menelvagor Valar: It's also likely I'll be visiting the States again over Christmas and New Year's, but I don't know where exactly yet.
Menelvagor Valar: Aiya Arien :-)
Menelvagor Valar: What I do know that it will only be in one place this time, with the friend I visited first and last last year :-)
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Well have fun when you do , and take care moving into your new place :}
Menelvagor Valar: Aye :-)
Eonwe Valar: Hope the internet won't take too long, but we'll be here when you get back :}
Menelvagor Valar: Barring the end of the world, I know you will ^^
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: Any other membership news?

Eonwe Valar: Ok, on to Web News:
Eonwe Valar: Well, I suppose to GPMU is also Membership news, but it's sort of web as well :}
ArPharazonV: ah yes, remind me to poke you for that in whisper
Eonwe Valar: That's going on right now. Don't forget to get me your gaming info if you haven't already :}

Eonwe Valar: Gaming:
AriehnV: WoW
Eonwe Valar: ?
AriehnV: oops wrong ^^
Eonwe Valar: :}
Eonwe Valar: WoW: Lothar - Kalasul is working on the Argent Tourney dailies now, and is up to the Champion dailies.
Eonwe Valar: Uldaman - Nothing much to report from here.
Eonwe Valar: LotRO: Turtle run was cancelled this Monday, but Indis, Melkor, and Varda did get alot of questing in.
Eonwe Valar: I got another level on Auros.
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news? Anyone play anything besides WoW and LotRO?
Menelvagor Valar: well....
Menelvagor Valar: I revisited good old WC3 TFT :-D
Eonwe Valar: :}
Menelvagor Valar: I did some FFA comp stomps with random races, of which one lasted nearly 2 hours ^^
ArPharazonV: I did some more BfME but not much I'm afraid, haven't reached Minas Tirith yet
Eonwe Valar: Any other gaming news?
Eonwe Valar: OK, guess not :}

Eonwe Valar: Tolkien:
Menelvagor Valar: I'd like to discuss the RP, as I've been getting a bit confused lately.
Eonwe Valar: ok
ArPharazonV: right, right, gotta finish up a new post, hopefully next week a bit less crowded, had some carnaval stuff going on this week
AriehnV: i ve just been reacting to Indis post who shoved me more or less in
AriehnV: rather Frali
ArPharazonV: also working on a bit of an amusing double drabble for the anniversary
AriehnV: (insert gaming news my pali on Ad the big one got finally her knuckle sandwhich )
ArPharazonV: (93rd mount!)
Menelvagor Valar: It seemed to me you fell in on the far bank.
ArPharazonV: (94th tomorrow)
Menelvagor Valar: or rather, the side we started from.
AriehnV: as far as i got it from the post i was to fall in when climbing into the boat
Eonwe Valar: I think Indis' post led to that conclusion, but I was under the initial impression she'd fall as she was coming onto the opposite side.
Menelvagor Valar: Tired but relieved to have her charges all safely across, Fainan started poling the raft-boat away from shore to leave it where they had found it.
Eonwe Valar: Or one of the posts led to that conclusion..
Menelvagor Valar: that was Varda's post, before Indis'
Menelvagor Valar: or rather, the first sentence of it.
ArPharazonV: which would mean you'll fall off after disembarking
Menelvagor Valar: possibly slipping when climbing the shore.
Eonwe Valar: No, according to Varda's, Frali did make it across.
AriehnV: hmmph ok i got confused there then
AriehnV: then i ll put that right
Menelvagor Valar: Relieved that the crossing was over and the horses still safe, Meren was packing up the herbs she had gathered when the last passengers were about to land.
Menelvagor Valar: and that's the first line of Indis' post.
Eonwe Valar: Ah, it was Arien's post then that had her slipping on the Halls side of the river.
Menelvagor Valar: It suggests, to me at least, that Fralí and whoever else was going across last were already en route and possibly disembarking when she started gathering up her stuff.
Menelvagor Valar: And my own post says that I am dropping out of my scouting position in the trees when the last people get ferried across to give Fralí a hand with disembarking.
AriehnV: Aye true ... my bad
Menelvagor Valar: It happens :-)
Eonwe Valar: Does that resolve the confusion? :}
AriehnV: i guess so :-) thanks
Eonwe Valar: :} I was referring to Menel since he said it was getting confusing lately, but glad we helped you too :}
Menelvagor Valar: Yeah, this should solve the confusion :-)
Eonwe Valar: ok :}
Menelvagor Valar: I was kinda worried, as I was supposed to go in with Fralí, but I wasn't about to go dive after him.
AriehnV: err whats ur character called again Menel?
Menelvagor Valar: Estarion :-)
Menelvagor Valar: And yes, you have my permission to slip and pull me in after you ^^
Eonwe Valar: Anything else about the RP we want to discuss?
AriehnV: post changed
AriehnV: its up to you whether u want to fall in too lol
AriehnV: frali tries to get hold of your arms but doesnt manage
Menelvagor Valar: Cool! I can work with that :-)
AriehnV: :-)
AriehnV: what do yiou eonwe, does it fit now?
AriehnV: *insert think*
Eonwe Valar: So gfalling directly out of the boat :}
Eonwe Valar: *So falling
Eonwe Valar: *shallow* might not be a good description of the water if we're using a boat to cross it.
Eonwe Valar: Moreso since it's a "rough wave" that threw you off balance.
Eonwe Valar: *threw Frali.
ArPharazonV: doesn't have to be too deep to be a bit wild :-)
Menelvagor Valar: posted :-)
ArPharazonV: sorry, Eonwe, is something going wrong in AIM or is my IM just disappearing among all your side windows? :-)
AriehnV: WHAT word would you use?
Eonwe Valar: I'm trying to visualize you post right now, Arien.
Eonwe Valar: *your
Menelvagor Valar: Here's the thing I did in my post :-)
Menelvagor Valar: I made the wave small.
AriehnV: and i agree here at the coas the bank can be very wild .. especially near rocks
Menelvagor Valar: but in the dwarf's perception, it may be large and rough indeed.
Menelvagor Valar: but even a small wave can make an uncertain person lose his footing on a slippery bank.
Menelvagor Valar: made a minor correction :-)
Eonwe Valar: I got from reading Arien's post that Frali was still in the boat. That probably would've been brought aground enough to not be affected *too* heavily by the flow of the water, seeing as it's a small boat.
Menelvagor Valar: decapitalized and correctly spelled "Girlde* :-D
Menelvagor Valar: ah right, yes.
Menelvagor Valar: now I see :-)
Menelvagor Valar: meh, missed that part as I still had Varda's post in my head :-D
Eonwe Valar: Varda's post assumes a slip in the mud I think, from the wording.
Menelvagor Valar: Aye.
Menelvagor Valar: Well, I think Arien's post is much better now, only have to change the from the boat part to the on the bank issue :-D
Eonwe Valar: "shallow" I suppose would work, depending on how far out Frali got carried into the current, but "shallow" for a Dwarf would be "very shallow" for an Elf or horse, hehe.
Eonwe Valar: I suppose it doesn't really need to be qualified relative to the character.
Menelvagor Valar: well, it doesn't really matter how shallow it is, as we'll be fast asleep quite soon anyways :-)
AriehnV: ok the wave got survived and Frali managed to grab the slippery planks without losing his bag but disembarking the bag finally falls in and he tries to get it back , steps in mud and .. splash
Eonwe Valar: Was the idea to be carried downstream, or was that just a thought we tossed around for potential use?
Menelvagor Valar: the idea was to be carried downstram.
Menelvagor Valar: to somewhere past the Orcish encampment.
ArPharazonV: downstream is north, by the way :-)
Eonwe Valar: Hmm, the Forest River flows north?
ArPharazonV: seemed a bit counterintuitive to me, but yeah
ArPharazonV: it flows north
Eonwe Valar: I'm going to have to read up on the Forest River again..
ArPharazonV: at least I thought it did
ArPharazonV: thought the Hobbit showed as such
ArPharazonV: lotr doesn't make it clear
ArPharazonV: I'll go take a look
Menelvagor Valar: hmmm...
Eonwe Valar: My Complete Guide to ME only says "flows through northern Mirkwood." So not much help in directional current there.
Menelvagor Valar: well, we could make it that another encampment is to the north, which moves with more stealth, shrouded by whatever is creeping up from the north.
ArPharazonV: Yes. North. It flows North across the Elf-path into the Forest River, which flows southeast past the Halls
ArPharazonV: Remember, we're crossing the Enchanted River here, not the Forest River.
Eonwe Valar: That's right, Enchanted River.
ArPharazonV: the Enchanted River comes down North from the mountains of southern Mirkwood, and enters the Forest River some way after crossing the path, west/northwest of the Halls
Menelvagor Valar: in that case, a reunion could be swift.
ArPharazonV: the Forest River then goes on (after its own origin in the northwest) to flow past Thranduil's Halls
ArPharazonV: if the Forest River was enchanted, Bilbo would've fallen asleep after the barrel-escape :-)
Eonwe Valar: Oh, wouldn't Auros be thrilled. He has to go back towards Thranduil's Halls to track down the missing party members :}
Eonwe Valar: Not only is he delayed, he backtracking! :}
ArPharazonV: well yes, the river takes a sharp turn east/northeast before entering the Forest River
ArPharazonV: if we end up at the junction, we'll be over halfway back towards the Halls according to the map in The Hobbit :-)
Eonwe Valar: The current would have to be pretty heavy to deposit them that far down the river though.
Menelvagor Valar: well, that sharp bend may actually be good enough to have the current run us aground in a recess on the bank that we currently *were* on :-)
ArPharazonV: the actual turn is somewhat before the crossing of the path
ArPharazonV: but there's still a slight curve
Eonwe Valar: The sharp bend "at least the one that looks to me like a sharp bend in my Atlas" is south of the road.
Menelvagor Valar: and with the rain stopping, as Indis may have suggested, it is entirely possible that whatever alcove we end up in may drie up, allowing us to shrug off sleep.
ArPharazonV: *nod*
Eonwe Valar: replace those quotes with parentheses.
ArPharazonV: the river already faces somewhat northeast by the time it crosses our path, but curves further afterwards
ArPharazonV: brb, gotta print something out on the other pc
Eonwe Valar: Sounds like it works.
Menelvagor Valar: or if all else fails, we could have a scout up north fish us out.
Eonwe Valar: That's possible too.
Eonwe Valar: Arien, you thoughts on the discussion?
Eonwe Valar: *your
Eonwe Valar: So, rough wave hits boat, Frali manages not to get knocked in, but ba bag goes flying in, Frali tried to get out and grab it, slips in the mud, Estarion tries to grab him, both end up carried downriver (which is north in this case). Sounds about right?
Menelvagor Valar: yup.
Menelvagor Valar: sounds good to me.
Menelvagor Valar: a bit improbable maybe, but good :-)
AriehnV: hmmm sounds good lol , at lleast its logical
AriehnV: and imagine if some other party members actually try and hold both , the whole party would end up half asleep and drowned maybe
Eonwe Valar: hehe
AriehnV: i think with the two of us its easier to have us washed up in an easy spot##
AriehnV: or at least in a more manageable one
ArPharazonV: anyway, I should be going
ArPharazonV: eet eez getting late
Eonwe Valar: Take care Phar :}
Eonwe Valar: The last hour has been RP talk :}
ArPharazonV: *nod*
AriehnV: aye Cala take care :-)
ArPharazonV: oh, one thing
ArPharazonV: if I make a story for the anniversary, should I wait to send it in until the anniversary? or is it best to pass it along sooner for proofreading?
Eonwe Valar: Probably better to send it a bit early.
Eonwe Valar: You can ask that it be held until the Anniversary.
ArPharazonV: okidoke
ArPharazonV: will do that
Eonwe Valar: Shall we call the meeting here, or is there anything else we need to discuss?
ArPharazonV: saving and sending transcript
ArPharazonV (0:43:32): saved
Eonwe Valar (0:45:02): Arien:"The next moment he gazed upon a beautiful elven maid offering him a mug of good dwarfen stout and a hearty roast served on a wooden table while his body lay struggling near the close river bank , threatening to be bashed against the small boat. "
ArPharazonV (0:45:43): referencing Bombur's dreams?
ArPharazonV (0:46:10): that's a powerful river indeed :)
Eonwe Valar (0:46:23): Not sure that this needs changed, as you can always lead into the sweeping downriver in the next post, or add onto it with minimal if any rewording. Just thought I'd mention this sounds as if you're not being taken downriver.
ArPharazonV (0:47:09): might lay still for a bit and then get swept away by a particular river afterwards?
ArPharazonV (0:47:12): *particular wave
ArPharazonV (0:47:25): anyway, transcript sent
Eonwe Valar (0:47:27): the last part starting around "while his body lay struggling" that is.
ArPharazonV (0:47:30): namarie all!
Eonwe Valar (0:47:34): Take care Phar :}
ArPharazonV (0:48:54) has left the room.
Eonwe Valar (0:53:37): OK.
Eonwe Valar (0:53:41): *Bangs Gavel*

Eonwe Valar (0:53:52): Aftermeeting.
AriehnV (0:58:46): aye i can adjust that if Estarion grabs me and takes me down river
AriehnV (0:59:16): i didnt know what he would do and didnt think of being taken away in the water
Menelvagor Valar (0:59:34): the being swept downriver is not really an issue I think.
AriehnV (0:59:42): but i can go with that without any prolem
Menelvagor Valar (0:59:46): As I am falling in behind Fralí at most a second after.
AriehnV (0:59:55): aye
Menelvagor Valar (1:00:25): I deliberately added that slow-motion element to it, so that the reader will know it is very close after each other that we fall in.
Menelvagor Valar (1:01:27): And being an Elf, I may be able to resist the upcoming sleep long enough to just tug my hand under Fralí's belt.
AriehnV (1:01:41): i mean fact is that frali is not fully asleep at least not physical, but he doesnt see or feel what s happening to his body, what is working are the pure physical reflexes
Menelvagor Valar (1:01:58): exactly.
Menelvagor Valar (1:02:25): And as Elves have high resistance against such physical enchantments...
Menelvagor Valar (1:03:00): Though Estarion being an Avar, and not one of the Eldar, as well as not accustomed to this particular one may account for him falling asleep just the same.
Menelvagor Valar (1:03:25): Albeit not quick enough for him to just get that last minute effort in :-)
AriehnV (1:03:35): :-)
AriehnV (1:03:56): right :-) guess thats settled
Eonwe Valar (1:04:01): Dwarves aren't a slouch in that department either, really.
AriehnV (1:05:31): my guess is tho that Frali wouldn  t know the difference between sleep/ dream or unconcious ness at that point but i think it was fainan whose post suggested that the waters were a bit diluted
AriehnV (1:05:35): to softhen the magic
Eonwe Valar (1:05:45): Aye.
AriehnV (1:06:31): anyway gtg friends :-)
AriehnV (1:06:42): take care and see u next week
AriehnV (1:06:47): Namarie for now
Eonwe Valar (1:06:49): Take care Arien :}
AriehnV (1:06:57) has left the room.
Eonwe Valar (1:07:54): RotK is on :}
Menelvagor Valar (1:08:22): My dad has all 3 extended dvds at home, so I can pick em up and watch em at any time I desire ^^
Menelvagor Valar (1:08:30): and besides, I can't watch that :-)
Eonwe Valar (1:08:41): :}
Eonwe Valar (1:08:50): I have  them as well :}
fladrifv (1:13:07) has left the room.